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| 00:18.49 | *** topic/#elive is Web: http://www.elivecd.org | BTS: http://bugs.elivecd.org - please report problems so we can solve them | Forum: http://forum.elivecd.org | Elive 3.0 is on the way and going to be entirely cost-free! |
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| 02:09.57 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 06:27.08 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_en_20! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
| 06:27.16 | keyra | if you have any suggestion or issue to report just tell us, so we can make even better this system for everybody! you can also use http://bugs.elivecd.org Oh btw! press control-s to set your real nickname :) |
| 07:03.15 | Ravensun | Hi, I have problem after install of Elive on my laptop. It is not possible to set what song has to elive play after login to gui. |
| 07:03.28 | keyra | the best way to fix a problem is by reporting the issue into our BTS, if we don't know about the problems that you can have we cannot solve them, your problem can affect to other users too, so you can collaborate with Elive by reporting them to http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 07:03.37 | keyra | we had encounter problems that stayed for months because nobody reported them before, so please report any problem that you can see, they are very important for us to know: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 07:03.39 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping |
| 07:03.42 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 07:03.50 | keyra | please use the BTS: http://bugs.elivecd.org unless somebody here can help you. BTW, by knowing the problems we can solve them not only for you but for everybody! :) |
| 07:33.18 | Ravensun | How many developers are developing Elive? |
| 07:33.24 | keyra | actual developers are Thanatermesis and PrinceAMD, maybe I forgot others? well, im only a bot :รพ |
| 12:36.04 | Thanatermesis | Ravensun, hi |
| 12:36.08 | Thanatermesis | Ravensun, only one |
| 12:36.45 | Ravensun | Only one for all Elive? |
| 12:36.49 | Thanatermesis | yup |
| 12:37.08 | Ravensun | Wau. Who is it? |
| 12:37.10 | Ravensun | you? |
| 12:37.30 | Thanatermesis | yep :) |
| 12:37.33 | keyra | :) |
| 12:38.09 | Thanatermesis | Ravensun, i have see your BTS report too, i think that this bug is already fixed, let's try this: api elive-sounds ; elive-startup-sound -c |
| 12:38.22 | keyra | the best way to fix a problem is by reporting the issue into our BTS, if we don't know about the problems that you can have we cannot solve them, your problem can affect to other users too, so you can collaborate with Elive by reporting them to http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 12:38.25 | keyra | BTS means Bug Tracking System, so http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 12:38.28 | Thanatermesis | then re-login and see if the audio is correctly configured now |
| 12:38.33 | keyra | please use the BTS: http://bugs.elivecd.org unless somebody here can help you. BTW, by knowing the problems we can solve them not only for you but for everybody! :) |
| 12:39.28 | Ravensun | Wau. You are amazing! |
| 12:40.31 | Thanatermesis | haha im glad that you liked Elive :), let's see if it has a good impact this 3.0 version, im just remaking the new website in order to "present it good" |
| 12:40.33 | keyra | of course! :) |
| 12:41.13 | Ravensun | Yes I reported one. What exactly I have to do for trying if it is now fixed? |
| 12:42.02 | Ravensun | type it into terminal? |
| 12:42.32 | Thanatermesis | yep, just paste what i have said in the terminal |
| 12:42.41 | Ravensun | Ok I will try it |
| 12:42.42 | Thanatermesis | api elive-sounds ; elive-startup-sound -c |
| 12:42.43 | Thanatermesis | ^ |
| 12:42.45 | keyra | not here! in your terminal |
| 12:42.53 | Ravensun | I see |
| 12:42.53 | Thanatermesis | spanks keyra |
| 12:42.55 | keyra | pants OFF! |
| 12:43.35 | Ravensun | Shall I it type with root ? |
| 12:43.55 | Thanatermesis | just normal user |
| 12:44.06 | Thanatermesis | it will ask for root when "api" install the package |
| 12:44.09 | Thanatermesis | oh wait |
| 12:44.14 | Thanatermesis | apui elive-sounds ; elive-startup-sound -c |
| 12:44.15 | Thanatermesis | this one ^ |
| 12:44.33 | Thanatermesis | (api == install, apui == update and install) |
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| 12:49.11 | Thanatermesis | Ravensun, what is the things that you liked the more in Elive ? |
| 12:49.13 | keyra | of course! :) |
| 12:49.22 | Thanatermesis | brainstorming what to describe in the website |
| 12:50.06 | Ravensun | ok I do "apui elive-sounds" Terminal said that I had elive-sounds updated; after i try "elive-startup-sound -c" and tryied on window set "no song" , but it is not posible to set |
| 12:50.15 | Ravensun | so I try logout and login |
| 12:50.19 | Ravensun | and again |
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| 12:51.35 | Thanatermesis | ok, let me try it myself here.. |
| 12:53.22 | Ravensun | I liked Enlightenment for many years. But in E16 i have trouble with network manager (wifi). In this version it is more comfortable and works good. But I was supreised that gui is half xfce and Enlightenment. |
| 12:54.00 | Ravensun | E16 was more candyeye |
| 12:55.15 | Ravensun | But as I said. Your work is amazing! |
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| 13:00.28 | Thanatermesis | im thinking to make a special version based in e16 :) |
| 13:00.30 | keyra | :) |
| 13:00.51 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, Ok I tryied to logout and login but no efect. |
| 13:00.57 | Thanatermesis | have you tried to enable the compiz layer? |
| 13:01.13 | Thanatermesis | Ravensun, yep, give me a minute im betatesting the sound thing in a virtual machine |
| 13:01.22 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, I am bfu, :) how can i check it? |
| 13:01.56 | Ravensun | wait, there are three gui? Default xsesion, enlightenment,...? |
| 13:04.20 | Thanatermesis | what is BFU? |
| 13:05.42 | Thanatermesis | ok i found the problem with the audio thing, thanks for reporting it :), im fixing it now.. |
| 13:05.51 | keyra | thanks for reporting the issue, by knowing it we can solve the problem for you and for everybody else affected, please use the BTS for that: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 13:06.57 | Thanatermesis | <Ravensun> wait, there are three gui? Default xsesion, enlightenment,... <---- yes, use "elive launcher" which includes a security layer |
| 13:07.39 | Ravensun | oh sorry it is some czech expresion for common user |
| 13:08.28 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, and for what are other two? |
| 13:10.02 | Ravensun | I am using xsesion now. Because i did not after install found, that there are next two :D |
| 13:10.24 | Thanatermesis | oh ok, so try this: mouse-over the top-left corner of your window (where the 4 buttons), it will appear a big extra menu with lots of extra options, select the last one (the "screen") |
| 13:10.33 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 13:11.27 | Thanatermesis | xsession is good, which is assiged by default to "elive launcher", so then: enlightenment is just enlightnement, and "elive launcher" is enlightenment with some extra Elive features to have a better control of your desktop :) (unable to crash, restoring configurations if needed, et#) |
| 13:11.29 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, wait I have to switch to elive launcher |
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| 13:14.52 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 13:16.52 | Ravensun | "screen" is that grey icon which looks like monitor? |
| 13:17.54 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 13:20.35 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, repo was updated? I tryied apt-get update and apt-get notify me, that elive-sounds was degrade... what it mean? |
| 13:21.53 | Thanatermesis | downgrade is not a bad thing, its just confused with the numbers |
| 13:22.02 | Thanatermesis | but wait, let me finish first the fix :) |
| 13:22.04 | keyra | :) |
| 13:22.21 | Thanatermesis | im implementing it to auto fix |
| 13:23.50 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, ok. no worry, I look what you do with wondering in my eyes. |
| 13:23.52 | keyra | wonder! wonder! |
| 13:24.50 | Ravensun | Could you say something about you? How old are you, how long are you doing this project etc... |
| 13:24.53 | keyra | apt, how old are you? |
| 13:24.53 | apt | 900 ... like Yoda ... |
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| 13:26.36 | Thanatermesis | haha |
| 13:26.40 | Thanatermesis | im 38 |
| 13:26.43 | Thanatermesis | Elive is 14 years now |
| 13:27.50 | Ravensun | apt, how old are you? |
| 13:27.50 | apt | 900 ... like Yoda ... |
| 13:27.52 | Ravensun | :D |
| 13:28.02 | Ravensun | apt, how are you? |
| 13:28.02 | apt | Ravensun: peachy |
| 13:28.04 | keyra | very good, thx :) |
| 13:28.20 | Ravensun | keyra, I did not say to you |
| 13:28.26 | Ravensun | :) |
| 13:28.28 | keyra | :) |
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| 13:28.32 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 13:29.13 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, Im 36 and I am interested about linux for 16 years |
| 13:31.27 | Thanatermesis | ah, almost since the start of linux :) |
| 13:33.01 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, almost :) |
| 13:33.38 | Ravensun | My first linux was suse livecd. It booted and it was readonly. |
| 13:35.06 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, what do you do? |
| 13:40.28 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, Why do you develop this project alone? Why does not join to bigger projects? |
| 13:44.09 | Thanatermesis | <Ravensun> Thanatermesis, what do you do? |
| 13:44.14 | Thanatermesis | as work? only Elive |
| 13:44.47 | Thanatermesis | > Why does not join to bigger projects? |
| 13:44.49 | Thanatermesis | what do you mean? |
| 13:47.54 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, yes as work. SO only Elive? This project can make a living you? |
| 13:50.05 | Thanatermesis | not really, its actually like 200-300 bucks per month |
| 13:50.20 | Thanatermesis | not easy to eat with that :) |
| 13:50.22 | keyra | :) |
| 13:50.56 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, I did mean, if you are alone (developer), why do you do it? Why are not member of some bigger project (xfce, kde, gnome, ...pantheon)? |
| 13:54.42 | Thanatermesis | because these projects doesnt looks "enough" to me and thats why i decided to make Elive :), to be different than these ones |
| 13:55.06 | Thanatermesis | Elive has its own way to work, faster, lighter, more beautiful, etc etc |
| 13:55.12 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, Ok it is understandable answer :) |
| 13:57.26 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, how can I start app when I have many opened windows in fullscreen? Is there some extra menu in launcher ? Or I have to start terminal and type name of package? |
| 13:58.04 | Ravensun | or minimalize windows until I see desktop and click to desktop left mouse button |
| 13:58.07 | Ravensun | ? |
| 13:58.13 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 14:01.27 | Thanatermesis | you can try "alt + esc", but i suggest you to read and try all that is said in the hotkeys, run: elive-help |
| 14:05.10 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, Thanks |
| 14:06.32 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, but is it possible to set runner (icony) like alt+esc to menu which is down and in the middle ? |
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| 14:07.02 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 14:07.10 | Ravensun | Because I have bad remember and I am sure, that I forgot this shorcut :) |
| 14:07.13 | keyra | :) |
| 14:07.41 | Ravensun | memory |
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| 14:13.21 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 14:13.29 | Thanatermesis | <Ravensun> Thanatermesis, but is it possible to set runner (icony) like alt+esc to menu which is down and in the middle ? |
| 14:13.33 | Thanatermesis | sorry, i dont understood :) |
| 14:13.35 | keyra | :) |
| 14:16.48 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, Sorry, My english is not so good. My native language is czech. I mean. If it is posible add to menu (big menu at the bottom of display) some button which run same window like shortcut alt+esc. |
| 14:17.51 | Thanatermesis | you mean in the dock bar ? |
| 14:18.54 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, yes |
| 14:20.43 | Ravensun | Because as i said, I am common user, who does not remember shorcuts and terminal commands. I am guy, who is only clicking on buttons :D |
| 14:20.46 | Thanatermesis | so you want an icon to act like as a launcher |
| 14:21.11 | Ravensun | is it bad idea? |
| 14:21.18 | Thanatermesis | no, it is a good idea :) |
| 14:21.20 | keyra | :) |
| 14:26.27 | Thanatermesis | but i think that it is not possible |
| 14:27.47 | Thanatermesis | well, you can try this: preferences -> gadgets -> add everything launcher |
| 14:28.10 | Thanatermesis | s/launcher/starter/ |
| 14:31.12 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, It is not possible to add button (in dock bar) which call same command like shortcut alt esc? |
| 14:33.53 | Thanatermesis | nope, but you can add an icon to the desktop which is more or less the same thing |
| 14:43.55 | Ravensun | Ok |
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| 15:03.12 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 15:10.30 | Thanatermesis | Ravensun, was your startup song fixed ? (if not, do not touch anything, i have improved something..) |
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| 15:18.05 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 15:28.32 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 15:30.00 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, wait. I am feeding my baby. |
| 15:35.49 | Ravensun | shall i logout and after that login? |
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| 15:40.09 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 15:42.09 | Thanatermesis | Ravensun, not needed, run this: apui elive-upgrader ; elive-upgrader |
| 15:42.42 | Thanatermesis | then see if startup song is fixed :), elive-upgrader automatically integrates the fix (as you can see in a message that will appear) |
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| 16:14.14 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, Hi, I updated and upgraded Elive but after logout and login and elive-startup-sound -c "no intro song" is not possible set. |
| 17:08.13 | Thanatermesis | Ravensun, have you run this? apui elive-upgrader ; elive-upgrader |
| 17:08.20 | Thanatermesis | it should fix the startup sound thing |
| 17:13.59 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, Yes |
| 17:14.16 | Thanatermesis | so what is the problem? |
| 17:14.49 | Thanatermesis | with -c you configure it, so everytime you use -c its going to be configured |
| 17:19.22 | Ravensun | I see, but if I use elive-startup-sound -c , everytime is marked first choise. When I clicked by mouse on "no intro song" marked stay first choise, not last |
| 17:19.31 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 17:19.38 | Ravensun | Sorry, I am not able to explain |
| 17:32.01 | Ravensun | Thanatermesis, Bye bye, and thank you for everything. |
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| 18:22.38 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_fr_16! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
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| 18:44.37 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user46_de! =) |
| 18:44.45 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody! |
| 19:33.57 | Thanatermesis | !help |
| 19:34.06 | keyra | I can: learn new things (with regex) for automatically reply, reminders for you in X time, memos to other users in the chat to tell when they connects back, etc.. details in: https://github.com/Elive/keyra-bot |
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| 19:35.45 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 19:36.18 | Thanatermesis | !memo Ravensun oh! that "first option stays marked" in startup sound was just a visual "issue", i just fixed it :), run "apui elive-sounds" |
| 19:36.18 | keyra | Ok, I'll notify Ravensun when I see him/her around! |
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| 22:18.36 | keyra | Ravensun, memo for you: <Thanatermesis/#elive/2018-05-26 21:36> oh! that "first option stays marked" in startup sound was just a visual "issue", i just fixed it :), run "apui elive-sounds" |
| 22:45.28 | Ravensun | keyra, Thank you |
| 22:45.30 | keyra | np :) |
| 22:45.53 | Ravensun | keyra, who are you? |
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| 23:19.06 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_en_22! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
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| 23:29.15 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |