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| 00:19.09 | *** topic/#elive is Web: http://www.elivecd.org | BTS: http://bugs.elivecd.org - please report problems so we can solve them | Forum: http://forum.elivecd.org | Elive 3.0 is on the way and going to be entirely cost-free! |
| 00:42.26 | Elmo40 | but the download is delayed. |
| 00:42.48 | Elmo40 | it will take some time to test latest |
| 00:43.21 | Elmo40 | what i mean bloated is simple. why even load the iso image with office or abiword, and all the other media apps? have 2 versions. bloated and light ;-) |
| 00:46.07 | Thanatermesis | you can use zsync |
| 00:46.18 | keyra | zsync is awesome! you can download Elive isos only using the 10% of your network bandwith by recyclating data, to enjoy better this feature just use the usb-bootable-elive tool, or use it as a command like this: zsync -i elive_2.9.30_beta_hybrid.iso http://isos.elivecd.org/development/elive_2.9.32_beta_hybrid.iso.zsync |
| 00:46.38 | Thanatermesis | well, no light version for now, but Elive is simply "well featured" and this is important |
| 00:50.19 | Elmo40 | yeah. i dont like 'well featured'. |
| 00:50.28 | Elmo40 | i have used debian net install on so many machines... |
| 00:56.39 | Thanatermesis | well, then you want/need a different purpose |
| 00:56.50 | Thanatermesis | maybe the future "elive ultra light" can be useful for you |
| 00:57.09 | Thanatermesis | but for a normal desktop/laptop computer for an average/normal use is better to have features |
| 00:57.39 | Elmo40 | i am not average user. |
| 00:57.44 | Elmo40 | i will install what i need |
| 00:57.54 | Elmo40 | but i want a lovely baseline... hence why i enjoy Elive |
| 00:59.13 | Thanatermesis | well, then you may need to wait for the ultra light version :) |
| 00:59.16 | keyra | :) |
| 00:59.25 | Elmo40 | :-( |
| 00:59.42 | Thanatermesis | or just do a normal install with the shrink / features removed, and uninstall extra applications that you may not need |
| 00:59.47 | Elmo40 | can i install, strip what i dont need and make an iso from that? |
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| 01:00.14 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_es_30! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
| 01:00.22 | keyra | if you have any suggestion or issue to report just tell us, so we can make even better this system for everybody! you can also use http://bugs.elivecd.org Oh btw! press control-s to set your real nickname :) |
| 01:00.41 | Elive_inst_es_30 | first install test: 7.45 GB needed of HD to install the full elive |
| 01:00.56 | Elive_inst_es_30 | reboots for second test |
| 01:01.24 | Thanatermesis | <Elmo40> can i install, strip what i dont need and make an iso from that? |
| 01:01.28 | Thanatermesis | mmh, not really |
| 01:01.32 | Thanatermesis | there's many steps for the iso |
| 01:02.35 | Elmo40 | many steps? |
| 01:02.46 | Elmo40 | dd installed_elive new_hdd |
| 01:02.47 | Elmo40 | ;-) |
| 01:04.07 | Thanatermesis | that can work :) |
| 01:04.09 | Thanatermesis | well, no |
| 01:04.12 | Elmo40 | (NULL) |
| 01:04.16 | Elmo40 | LoL |
| 01:04.31 | Thanatermesis | the installer has also many steps about dynamic configurations based in whats your hardware |
| 01:04.37 | Thanatermesis | different settings per each machine |
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| 01:34.48 | Elmo40 | useless state mark? |
| 01:35.06 | Elmo40 | is the download delay the only thing holding people back? |
| 01:35.29 | Elmo40 | is there an installing donation request? |
| 01:36.07 | Thanatermesis | what you mean by download delay & holding people back? |
| 01:36.18 | Elmo40 | how many people dl the image? |
| 01:37.02 | Elmo40 | remember when you had to donate or make a blog post or something in order to install Elive Beta? |
| 01:37.17 | Elmo40 | do you still have this request even if I donate on the download? |
| 01:37.25 | Thanatermesis | mmh, i have recently set a configuration in the piwik statistics of the website, it was like 20 downloads per day |
| 01:37.30 | Thanatermesis | if i recall correctly |
| 01:37.31 | Thanatermesis | 15-20 |
| 01:37.39 | Thanatermesis | with 300 visits per day |
| 01:37.54 | Elmo40 | i should get the USB? |
| 01:37.57 | Elmo40 | is the DVD same image? |
| 01:38.08 | Elmo40 | I have a guy that wants a disc... doesnt 'like' USB keys |
| 01:38.11 | Thanatermesis | nope, all the donations requeriments are removed except the "fast download" vs delayed one |
| 01:38.16 | Thanatermesis | so no installer-module etc |
| 01:38.24 | Thanatermesis | not any donation requirement after download |
| 01:38.39 | Elmo40 | i donated |
| 01:38.41 | Elmo40 | :-) |
| 01:38.55 | Thanatermesis | for DVD use DVD, and for USB is better the usb since theres persistence and ohter features |
| 01:39.01 | Thanatermesis | nice! thank you :))) |
| 01:39.11 | Elmo40 | i try... |
| 01:39.19 | Elmo40 | i dont donate often, but when i can i do. |
| 01:39.48 | Elmo40 | but this is from my buddy... he is looking for the DVD image. This is from him. |
| 01:40.13 | Elmo40 | holy slow dl, batman! |
| 01:40.30 | Thanatermesis | :)) |
| 01:40.34 | Thanatermesis | why he dont like usb? thats better |
| 01:40.42 | Thanatermesis | slow dl? what is the speed? |
| 01:40.44 | Elmo40 | he is OLD |
| 01:40.49 | Elmo40 | 6.4kb/s |
| 01:40.55 | Thanatermesis | wtf, seriosly? |
| 01:40.56 | Elmo40 | i am on fiber network! |
| 01:41.07 | Elmo40 | 300MBit/s speeds! |
| 01:41.14 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, run this command from a terminal: wget (link of the button) |
| 01:41.20 | Thanatermesis | tell me to which mirror redirects the download |
| 01:41.26 | Elmo40 | laptop with gigbit is connected directly to the modem |
| 01:41.41 | Thanatermesis | is right now configuring an own server for serve the isos directly |
| 01:41.55 | Elmo40 | https://isos.elive.4eigner.net/development/elive_2.9.97_stable_hybrid.iso |
| 01:42.08 | Thanatermesis | heh! |
| 01:42.14 | Elmo40 | sorry, it is 6.4Mb/s |
| 01:42.16 | Thanatermesis | thats the mirror from dreamhost... |
| 01:42.21 | Elmo40 | not kb/s |
| 01:42.25 | Thanatermesis | i hate everyday more them lol |
| 01:42.28 | Elmo40 | LoL |
| 01:42.39 | Thanatermesis | not a very good quality hosting.... |
| 01:42.48 | Elmo40 | i see |
| 01:42.50 | Thanatermesis | let me search a different one |
| 01:43.18 | Elmo40 | i am at 50% |
| 01:43.37 | Thanatermesis | http://isos.elive.valinbsd.org/development/ |
| 01:43.39 | Thanatermesis | try this mirror |
| 01:44.00 | Thanatermesis | im actually going to remove all the mirrors and rely only in private servers |
| 01:46.24 | Thanatermesis | the bad news for Elmo40 is that this new server will be located in europe :) |
| 01:46.26 | keyra | :) |
| 01:46.59 | Thanatermesis | Elmo40, can you tell me at which speed this files downloads for you ? http://www.elivecd.org/testfile.pack |
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| 02:03.26 | Elive_inst_es_15 | lol |
| 02:03.28 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_es_15! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
| 02:03.31 | Elive_inst_es_15 | thats freaking nice! |
| 02:03.36 | keyra | if you have any suggestion or issue to report just tell us, so we can make even better this system for everybody! you can also use http://bugs.elivecd.org Oh btw! press control-s to set your real nickname :) |
| 02:04.04 | Elive_inst_es_15 | installed system with a "disabled all extra options in installer" is only 3.5 GB disk usage ! |
| 02:04.35 | Elive_inst_es_15 | i never checked it, just added options to make the system smaller... and this result is pretty amazing |
| 02:04.43 | Elive_inst_es_15 | thinks that Elmo40 will be glad to know that ^ |
| 02:05.26 | Elive_inst_es_15 | then you still have the option to manually remove every unwanted app, and finally run "apt-get autoremove" to remove their dependencies |
| 02:08.19 | Thanatermesis | 7.45 vs 3.5, very very nice |
| 02:10.12 | Thanatermesis | thats what i meant about dynamic... as you said Elmo40, it cannot be white and black at the same time, so is not possible to decide if is better "big and featured" or "light and useless", so the best option is the dynamism, allowing the user select what he wants (maybe we wants it extremely light BUT wants libreoffice), so the choice is always best picked for everybody |
| 02:16.46 | Elive_inst_es_15 | let me see if i can even shrink it more >:D |
| 02:25.17 | Elive_inst_es_15 | -117 MB |
| 02:26.30 | Elive_inst_es_15 | -108 MB |
| 02:30.25 | Elive_inst_es_15 | if original debian packages were better made, i could save almost 200 mb more |
| 02:38.58 | Elive_inst_es_15 | -19 MB |
| 02:42.34 | Thanatermesis | this makes now 3.25 instead of 3.5 :) |
| 02:42.36 | keyra | :) |
| 03:09.06 | Thanatermesis | Elmo40, ping |
| 03:17.31 | Thanatermesis | nm, will do that test tomorrow |
| 03:17.45 | Thanatermesis | !memo Elmo40 remember me to do the test of download speed from europe |
| 03:17.45 | keyra | Ok, I'll notify Elmo40 when I see him/her around! |
| 03:18.02 | Thanatermesis | tomorrow will do more "lightening system" tests :) |
| 03:18.04 | keyra | :) |
| 03:18.07 | Thanatermesis | time to zleep! |
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| 03:35.31 | Elmo40 | i will be glad to know if installation is <2Gb |
| 03:35.31 | keyra | Elmo40, memo for you: <Thanatermesis/#elive/2018-06-28 05:17> remember me to do the test of download speed from europe |
| 03:36.12 | Elmo40 | the thing is, Elive is from Debian. |
| 03:36.24 | Elmo40 | people can apt-get install anything, just as easy as using Debian |
| 03:36.27 | keyra | how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
| 03:36.46 | Elmo40 | what makes Elive extra special is the E environment and the cute E specific apps |
| 03:37.31 | Elmo40 | http://www.elivecd.org/testfile.pack <- Page Not Found |
| 03:38.35 | grottem | is away: Screenshot of Elive: http://elivecd.org/Main/Screenshots |
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| 09:48.43 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_51! =) |
| 11:17.26 | Thanatermesis | morning! |
| 11:17.28 | keyra | good morning! |
| 11:17.44 | Thanatermesis | Elmo40, if you do the light install & remove unnneeded apps, maybe 2gb |
| 11:18.21 | Thanatermesis | Elmo40, "people can apt anything", for sure, but the default Elive has already that included (no needed to do that (and know how) and no needed to do a research) |
| 11:19.49 | Thanatermesis | Elmo40, "what makes Elive special is that is E + debian": nope! that is exactly a thing that I want to avoid the people think... so i have wrote about this in the new website of Elive (the specific accordion part in the intro description & showing all the features in the website), so ill be glad if you give me a feedback about how is explained this question in the website :) http://test.sandbox.elivecd.org/homepage-new |
| 11:20.19 | Thanatermesis | time to work! let me see if i can reduce 3.25 up to 3 gb :) |
| 11:20.21 | keyra | :) |
| 11:42.40 | Elmo40 | olah |
| 11:43.20 | Thanatermesis | o/ |
| 11:43.22 | keyra | hi! |
| 11:44.14 | Thanatermesis | Elmo40, can you tell me your download speed of downloading this? http://www.elivecd.org/testfile.pack |
| 11:44.39 | Elmo40 | 600kb/s |
| 11:44.52 | Thanatermesis | what? really? |
| 11:44.58 | Thanatermesis | no speeds up? |
| 11:45.01 | Elmo40 | now 1.5mb |
| 11:45.08 | Thanatermesis | ok that looks better |
| 11:45.10 | Thanatermesis | more? |
| 11:45.21 | Elmo40 | max 1.8Mb/s |
| 11:45.32 | Thanatermesis | good.... very good info |
| 11:45.42 | Thanatermesis | so this is the max speed downloading from another continent |
| 11:46.15 | Elmo40 | through that server |
| 11:46.30 | Elmo40 | i have downloaded from Ireland at 45Mb/s |
| 11:46.42 | Thanatermesis | mmmmmmmmh |
| 11:47.00 | Thanatermesis | you should have probably redirected to another ip (cdn) |
| 11:47.06 | Thanatermesis | this server of Elive website is extremely fast |
| 11:47.14 | Thanatermesis | so your download speed should be the maximum one |
| 11:51.13 | Thanatermesis | Elmo40, another test: wget http://isos.elivelinux.org/testfile.pack |
| 11:51.19 | Thanatermesis | tell me speed |
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| 12:08.02 | Elmo40 | started at 2.0 |
| 12:08.08 | Elmo40 | went up to 2.4Mb/s |
| 12:09.58 | Thanatermesis | hum, this server in frankfurt is faster than the one in amsterdam... good to know |
| 12:12.32 | Elmo40 | does persistence work? |
| 12:13.12 | Thanatermesis | sure! |
| 12:13.16 | Thanatermesis | own Elive persistence features |
| 12:13.21 | Thanatermesis | only for USB image |
| 12:14.04 | Elmo40 | well of course... not with DVD image. |
| 12:14.05 | Elmo40 | :-P |
| 12:14.49 | Elmo40 | yeah... that app bar at the bottom is TOO FULL of stuff for me |
| 12:15.14 | Elmo40 | i would have 4 or 5 items. |
| 12:15.29 | Thanatermesis | .iso can be put in usb too, but then doesnt acts like a usb disk, but like an emulated cdrom on usb (a tricky way to boot .iso from usb), but the internal structure is different and so persistence cant work |
| 12:15.41 | keyra | use "usb-bootable-elive" tool to automatically download and record your USB with Elive. If you are in other Linux* use "dd" from a terminal or the Usb-ImageWriter tool, if you are in Windows use UsbWriter, please do not use other tools than the suggested ones |
| 12:15.42 | Thanatermesis | apr |
| 12:17.05 | Elmo40 | did resizing change? |
| 12:17.13 | Elmo40 | i thought it was alt+middle button |
| 12:18.03 | Elmo40 | it didnt ask for border size at boot. you removed that? |
| 12:18.30 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 12:18.34 | Thanatermesis | alt was removed due to compatibility with apps |
| 12:18.40 | Thanatermesis | use ctrl + alt, or win key |
| 12:18.49 | Thanatermesis | you have all the hotkeys in the opened PDF Elmo40 |
| 12:19.06 | Thanatermesis | border size? what you mean? |
| 12:19.28 | Elmo40 | remember when it asked for thickness? |
| 12:19.31 | Elmo40 | 1.0 was default |
| 12:19.39 | Elmo40 | 1.2, 1.5 larer, 0.7 smaller |
| 12:19.51 | Elmo40 | maybe it was a font size? |
| 12:20.43 | Elmo40 | i think i found a bug |
| 12:20.51 | keyra | thanks for reporting the issue, by knowing it we can solve the problem for you and for everybody else affected, please use the BTS for that: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 12:20.55 | Elmo40 | i open a term. su to root |
| 12:21.05 | Elmo40 | apt-get update |
| 12:21.09 | Elmo40 | apt-get install irssi |
| 12:21.12 | keyra | how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes |
| 12:21.17 | Elmo40 | exit root |
| 12:21.21 | Thanatermesis | <Elmo40> maybe it was a font size? |
| 12:21.22 | Elmo40 | cant find irssi in term |
| 12:21.26 | Thanatermesis | yep, you mean font size |
| 12:21.34 | Thanatermesis | now it doesn't ask, it uses smart system |
| 12:21.52 | Elmo40 | but irssi is found when i su back to root |
| 12:21.57 | Thanatermesis | referencing from the new website, Elmo40: |
| 12:21.57 | Elmo40 | in the term |
| 12:21.58 | Thanatermesis | |
| 12:21.59 | Thanatermesis | Optimal configuration |
| 12:21.59 | Thanatermesis | Sizes & Fonts |
| 12:21.59 | Thanatermesis | Worried about the optimal sizes of elements in desktop? Fonts are automatically configured based in the resolution and DPI of your screen to fit the most standard size for your eyes. You can configure it later or be amazed with the win+z key feature |
| 12:22.55 | Elmo40 | what does win+z do? |
| 12:23.22 | Thanatermesis | Elmo40, well, that is more or less a bug... its a cached state of your terminal commands, which try to correct to a "non-irssi" valid command (but you hvae it), just say "do not correct" and it works, also it works in the second attemp (new cached state) |
| 12:23.31 | Thanatermesis | Elmo40, composite zoom effect |
| 12:23.59 | Elmo40 | http://www.elivecd.org/testfile.pack |
| 12:24.01 | Elmo40 | oops |
| 12:24.16 | Elmo40 | :correct irssi to _irssi? |
| 12:24.20 | Elmo40 | why _irssi?? |
| 12:25.29 | Thanatermesis | its just a cache thing of zsh, ignore it |
| 12:25.33 | Thanatermesis | it works in the second use |
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| 12:26.12 | elmo-elive | i'm here |
| 12:26.23 | elmo-elive | i like the win+z+mouse wheel |
| 12:26.33 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 12:27.07 | elmo-elive | it works in all apps? |
| 12:27.19 | elmo-elive | i see with ff it uses the ff way of zooming a page |
| 12:28.19 | elmo-elive | weird |
| 12:28.26 | elmo-elive | it does not zoom down |
| 12:28.51 | elmo-elive | i zoomed in ff to 160%, closed ff, opened back up, and it is still at 160% but does not go lower |
| 12:29.15 | elmo-elive | i had to click the 160% in the address bar for it to go back to 100% |
| 12:29.18 | Thanatermesis | that sound slike a bug in firefox? |
| 12:29.34 | Thanatermesis | try ctrl + 0 |
| 12:29.43 | elmo-elive | ctrl+wheel works, though |
| 12:30.01 | elmo-elive | as it always did... |
| 12:30.04 | Thanatermesis | yep it works, just tested |
| 12:30.17 | elmo-elive | ctrl+wheel is the default in ff |
| 12:30.40 | elmo-elive | yeah. win+z+wheel doesnt work in ff the second time. |
| 12:31.25 | elmo-elive | win+z doesnt work in file manager |
| 12:31.29 | Thanatermesis | win + z its a compiz effect |
| 12:31.42 | elmo-elive | well, it isnt working in term anymore |
| 12:32.21 | elmo-elive | win+z is broken |
| 12:32.33 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, let me try it in laptop |
| 12:32.39 | elmo-elive | and ctrl+wheel is in reverse in file manager. |
| 12:32.58 | elmo-elive | scroll up should be +, but it is - |
| 12:32.59 | Thanatermesis | well, thats how thunar is programmed to act |
| 12:33.41 | elmo-elive | well, thunar is backwards... |
| 12:33.47 | elmo-elive | cant that be altered? |
| 12:33.53 | elmo-elive | to be like every other app... |
| 12:33.57 | Thanatermesis | idk |
| 12:33.59 | Thanatermesis | its thunar stuff |
| 12:34.24 | elmo-elive | shotwell is correct way |
| 12:34.34 | elmo-elive | there must be key bindings somewhere to edit |
| 12:36.07 | Thanatermesis | !memo elmo-elive try to run the touchad Elive configurator and change the "natural scroll" setting to see if this option is the one that affects the thunar thing Elmo40 |
| 12:36.07 | keyra | Ok, I'll notify elmo-elive when I see him/her around! |
| 12:37.26 | Elmo40 | i was in virtualbox. it may have broke the system... i will reboot into dvd later on. |
| 12:37.39 | keyra | use "usb-bootable-elive" tool to automatically download and record your USB with Elive. If you are in other Linux* use "dd" from a terminal or the Usb-ImageWriter tool, if you are in Windows use UsbWriter, please do not use other tools than the suggested ones |
| 12:39.18 | Thanatermesis | virtualbox dont make win + z able to work |
| 12:39.33 | Thanatermesis | theres a message at the start of desktop saying that |
| 12:39.57 | Elmo40 | it worked a few times |
| 12:40.20 | Thanatermesis | compiz? not possible... |
| 12:40.37 | Thanatermesis | you had 3d enabled on the virtualbox? |
| 12:41.27 | Elmo40 | i dont know. |
| 12:45.09 | Thanatermesis | virtualbox on windows machine? |
| 12:45.16 | Elmo40 | yes |
| 12:45.22 | Thanatermesis | ok let me test |
| 12:51.29 | Thanatermesis | impossible, it does nothing, and doesnt allows to enable compiz/ecomorph Elmo40 |
| 12:51.35 | Thanatermesis | what exactly "win + z " does for you in vbox? |
| 12:51.50 | Elmo40 | it zoomed the font in zsh |
| 12:51.57 | Elmo40 | zoomed the font in firefox |
| 12:52.12 | Elmo40 | then i closed ff and zoom didnt work anymore |
| 12:52.16 | Thanatermesis | test again in those apps |
| 12:52.19 | Elmo40 | i think compiz stoped working |
| 12:52.36 | Thanatermesis | windows key + z character key... |
| 12:53.10 | Elmo40 | plus mouse wheel |
| 12:53.17 | Thanatermesis | <Elmo40> i think compiz stoped working |
| 12:53.19 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 12:53.26 | Thanatermesis | it cannot be stopped because is never launched in vbox |
| 12:54.25 | Thanatermesis | lol win + z does absolutely nothing here |
| 12:54.34 | Thanatermesis | "windows logo key" + "Z character key" |
| 12:54.51 | Elmo40 | no mouse wheel? |
| 12:54.55 | Thanatermesis | but anyways, we are talking about different things... win + z triggers zoom in desktop using ecomorph, which doesnt happend for you because of vir/uabox |
| 12:55.22 | Thanatermesis | control + mouse wheel changes size fonts in terminology and firefox, but not win + z |
| 13:02.42 | Elmo40 | well... it worked once |
| 13:02.54 | Thanatermesis | its a different thing |
| 13:03.09 | Thanatermesis | try Elive in a real desktop and if ecomorph works (speciall effects question asking) you will see the difference |
| 13:03.15 | Elmo40 | i'll test directly on the laptop with a reboot later on. |
| 13:03.18 | Elmo40 | ciao for now! |
| 13:03.21 | Thanatermesis | have you see the hidden optiosn in the window-borders ? |
| 13:03.35 | Elmo40 | i see 4 or 5 round buttons. what are they all for? |
| 13:03.48 | Thanatermesis | nope, there's more ones, hidden :) |
| 13:03.51 | keyra | :) |
| 13:04.11 | Thanatermesis | just mouse over near to these and you will see ;) |
| 13:04.17 | Thanatermesis | <Elmo40> i see 4 or 5 round buttons. what are they all for? |
| 13:04.19 | Thanatermesis | try them! :D |
| 13:04.20 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
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| 14:15.55 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_91! =) |
| 14:16.03 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody! |
| 14:18.19 | Elive_user_en_91 | Just a little hello from Montreal, Canada. I sent you some feedback about 2.9.97 at bugs.elivecd.org |
| 14:21.05 | Elive_user_en_91 | testing keyra. |
| 14:21.19 | Elive_user_en_91 | keyra ? |
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| 14:48.20 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 14:59.19 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_27! =) |
| 14:59.27 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody! |
| 14:59.46 | Elive_user_en_27 | Just in case you want to talk to me live, It is JF Bourdeau. If you are busy, no stress, I will read you later today or tomorrow |
| 15:02.51 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_27, basically, selecting the optimal audio card is not an easy thing to do it smart |
| 15:03.08 | Thanatermesis | but you can configure your audio card from the audio configurator (not the mixer!) |
| 15:03.31 | Thanatermesis | and it should allow you to use the USB audio, and select which mic to use too, it will reconfrigure vokoscreen also |
| 15:03.41 | Thanatermesis | so just try that reconfigurator and see if problem is solved |
| 15:04.27 | Thanatermesis | let's do step by step, first let's fix that and then we will look at other ones ^ |
| 15:07.37 | Thanatermesis | !keyword multitask multitasking means screwing up several things at once, and productivity is decreased hard... but that's not the case for the robots :) |
| 15:07.37 | keyra | Defining 'multitask' with: 'multitasking means screwing up several things at once, and productivity is decreased hard... but that's not the case for the robots :)'. |
| 15:09.30 | Elive_user_en_27 | LOL I can minimize the XCHat WIndows to try again what you are telling me to try F11, or double clik on the upper part of the windows does not work. If I open audio configurator, the window goes under XCHat LOL |
| 15:09.43 | keyra | I'm the good and the bad, the black and the white, the alpha and omega, I'm beyond time, there's no atomic substances on me and my form is pure energy, I'm a reflection of my echo resonating across the universe from the future, so what I'm, you know now? |
| 15:10.12 | Elive_user_en_27 | ok ATL TAB fixed it |
| 15:10.23 | Elive_user_en_27 | now trying again the audio configurator then voko |
| 15:10.58 | Elive_user_en_27 | If we were in TElegram I could send you pictures, screen shot more easily ;-) |
| 15:11.19 | Elive_user_en_27 | 1) I just choosed H540 USB headerset from the audio configurator |
| 15:11.45 | Elive_user_en_27 | it is asking if I want to choose the same audio card for microphone, I will say yes, like I did last time |
| 15:12.50 | Elive_user_en_27 | 2) playing youtube and sound goes into headset but I can;t adjust sound volume from volume key on headset or keyboard |
| 15:13.02 | Elive_user_en_27 | if I do it, it open audio selector |
| 15:13.18 | Elive_user_en_27 | If I close the audio selector windows, error window |
| 15:13.40 | Elive_user_en_27 | now tryint voko so see if microphone is working |
| 15:15.51 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_user_en_27> if I do it, it open audio selector |
| 15:16.04 | Thanatermesis | not sure to understand that, but forget the graphical application of volumes-mixer for now |
| 15:16.42 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_27, run this command: amixer | elivepaste |
| 15:16.49 | Elive_user_en_27 | Yes Volume Control application was the key : By default my microphone was turned off ( X on the little microphone in the Recording tab) |
| 15:17.23 | Elive_user_en_27 | microphone work ! I had to go in VOLUME CONTROL, RECORDING TAB, REMOVE THE OFF X on the microphone icons that was there by default |
| 15:17.43 | Elive_user_en_27 | I still can't adjust volume from keyboard or headset but we;re getting better |
| 15:17.45 | Thanatermesis | hum... |
| 15:17.56 | Thanatermesis | oh... interesting... |
| 15:18.00 | Thanatermesis | looking the code |
| 15:18.06 | Thanatermesis | you are in live mode, Elive_user_en_27 ? |
| 15:18.11 | keyra | live mode means the not-installed Elive, so Elive booted from a USB or DVD |
| 15:18.48 | Elive_user_en_27 | [(piped)] http://paste.debian.net/1031184/ |
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| 15:19.01 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 15:19.12 | Elive_user_en_27 | yes live mode |
| 15:19.38 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_27, which track is the one to control volume? headset or sidetone? |
| 15:22.36 | Elive_user_en_27 | not sure to understand your question |
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| 15:23.35 | Elive_user_en_27 | VOLUMJE CONTROL, PLAYBACK TAB, Headphone 2 slides are what allows me to change volume |
| 15:23.40 | Thanatermesis | i think that is everything fixed Elive_user_en_27... can you reboot the Live mode to test in a new environment? (do not configure audios after to reboot yet) |
| 15:23.45 | keyra | live mode means the not-installed Elive, so Elive booted from a USB or DVD |
| 15:25.09 | Elive_user_en_27 | yes. I can't install it for now on my main stations, and on my laptop, keypad doesn ot work when I see it work ok ( not perfect but ok) on destop, I will install it |
| 15:25.13 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 15:25.39 | Elive_user_en_27 | probably live mode is bringing issues that I would not have if installed ... it it is the case, sorry |
| 15:25.44 | keyra | live mode means the not-installed Elive, so Elive booted from a USB or DVD |
| 15:25.55 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_27, keypad not works? is the "Numpad Lock" key (and led) enabled? |
| 15:26.22 | Elive_user_en_27 | forget about that comment... I meant touchpad !! Sorry on the other laptop |
| 15:26.23 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_27, nope, live mode should be same stable & no issues |
| 15:26.28 | Elive_user_en_27 | but let stick to desktop |
| 15:26.34 | Thanatermesis | oh |
| 15:26.47 | Thanatermesis | well, reboot the Live system and we do another test :) |
| 15:26.49 | keyra | :) |
| 15:27.01 | Elive_user_en_27 | ok will be back in 2 minutes approx |
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| 15:29.49 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_20! =) |
| 15:29.57 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody! |
| 15:30.32 | Elive_user_en_20 | AM back. So I went 1st in VOLUME CONTROL, to the LOGITECH USB HEADSET RECORDING TAB, Default was microphone Off ( missed it the 1st time) |
| 15:31.25 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_20, too bad, i said to not configure audio after to boot :) |
| 15:31.37 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_20, you will need to reboot again to test the automated mode |
| 15:31.48 | Elive_user_en_20 | oooops |
| 15:31.52 | Elive_user_en_20 | rebooting |
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| 15:35.10 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_21! =) |
| 15:35.12 | Elive_user_en_21 | BAck again |
| 15:35.18 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody! |
| 15:35.29 | Thanatermesis | ok, now run this: |
| 15:35.31 | Elive_user_en_21 | didn't touch anything this time else than booting |
| 15:35.33 | Thanatermesis | apui -y elive-tools |
| 15:36.33 | Elive_user_en_21 | it is asking me for Disk 1 of WIndows 95 !!!! |
| 15:36.37 | Thanatermesis | after it finished to update the package, run "audio-configurator", select your USB one and try this: |
| 15:36.41 | Elive_user_en_21 | joke |
| 15:36.49 | Elive_user_en_21 | ok done |
| 15:36.58 | Thanatermesis | - mic should be able to record now (no need to configure capture modes) |
| 15:36.59 | Thanatermesis | - keyboard volumes should work now |
| 15:37.37 | Elive_user_en_21 | ok opening youtube for test |
| 15:38.09 | Thanatermesis | keyra, what you think about microsoft windows? |
| 15:38.39 | Thanatermesis | apt ping |
| 15:38.39 | apt | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
| 15:38.39 | Elive_user_en_21 | sorry does not work |
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| 15:39.12 | Elive_user_en_21 | volume key on keyboard or headset open audio selector windows |
| 15:39.22 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> apui -y elive-tools |
| 15:39.22 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> after it finished to update the package, run "audio-configurator", select your USB one and try this: |
| 15:39.22 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_user_en_21> it is asking me for Disk 1 of WIndows 95 !!!! |
| 15:39.22 | Elive_user_en_21 | and if I close the window, error mesage |
| 15:39.25 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> - mic should be able to record now (no need to configure capture modes) |
| 15:39.28 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> - keyboard volumes should work now |
| 15:40.25 | Elive_user_en_21 | in case you missed my answers |
| 15:40.27 | Elive_user_en_21 | does not work |
| 15:41.01 | Elive_user_en_21 | volyme key, keyboard or headset open the application where we select the audio |
| 15:41.22 | Thanatermesis | huh? can yuo show me a screenshot? |
| 15:41.31 | keyra | press the Print/Sys key of your keyboard and it will make a screenshot, or open the menu of applications, or alt + right-click in a window to screenshot this window only |
| 15:41.32 | Thanatermesis | press impr-sys keyboard key, with that window, and then "share" |
| 15:41.37 | Elive_user_en_21 | if you want me to share my screen, let me know how. I would if I had last version of chrome ( appear.in/whatever is soo cool to share screen... but does not work witrh the chrome version in ELive) |
| 15:41.41 | keyra | know the version of your Elive running in your terminal: cat /etc/elive-version |
| 15:42.14 | Thanatermesis | apt, ping |
| 15:42.14 | apt | 1 packet transmitted, 1 packet received, 0.0% packet loss |
| 15:42.18 | Elive_user_en_21 | elive-codename: Opal |
| 15:42.18 | Elive_user_en_21 | elive-version: 2.9.97 |
| 15:42.18 | Elive_user_en_21 | debian-version: elive |
| 15:42.18 | Elive_user_en_21 | date-builded: 2018-06-27 |
| 15:42.18 | Elive_user_en_21 | stable-release: yes |
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| 15:43.53 | Elive_user_en_21 | I will share my screen if you have time... give me 2 minute |
| 15:44.38 | Thanatermesis | has network problems aparently |
| 15:45.32 | Elive_user_en_21 | https://zoom.us/j/5807856135 |
| 15:45.47 | Elive_user_en_21 | need to install the app |
| 15:46.07 | Elive_user_en_21 | my other screen tool is simpler. no need to install app but doesnt work with this version of chrome |
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| 15:47.30 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 15:47.49 | Thanatermesis | what is this zoom thing? it asks me to install something... |
| 15:48.10 | Thanatermesis | scared |
| 15:48.18 | Elive_user_en_21 | LOL LOL LOL |
| 15:48.19 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_21, use the screenshot tool of Elive and share it |
| 15:48.25 | Elive_user_en_21 | to share muy screen |
| 15:49.21 | Thanatermesis | !keyword screenshot use the "impr sys" key of your keyboard to take a screenshot, you can also share it with the obtained web link! |
| 15:49.21 | keyra | Defining 'screenshot' with: 'use the "impr sys" key of your keyboard to take a screenshot, you can also share it with the obtained web link!'. |
| 15:49.25 | Thanatermesis | ^ Elive_user_en_21 |
| 15:53.26 | Elive_user_en_21 | http://main.elivecd.org/ss/e-5b35046d223f74.77175691.jpg |
| 15:54.44 | Thanatermesis | oh hum |
| 15:54.45 | Elive_user_en_21 | The application error windows you see is that happen after I increase volume from keytboard or headset and try to close the Audio selection windows thatappear |
| 15:54.51 | Thanatermesis | run this: setvolume 5% up |
| 15:55.06 | Thanatermesis | run this: EL_DEBUG=3 setvolume 5% up |
| 15:55.07 | Elive_user_en_21 | 1) Press Volume Up 2) Audio selector appear 3) This error message |
| 15:55.18 | Thanatermesis | yeah i see |
| 15:55.49 | Thanatermesis | it fails setting the volume, strange |
| 15:55.55 | Elive_user_en_21 | ⯠audio-configurator |
| 15:55.55 | Elive_user_en_21 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:55.55 | Elive_user_en_21 | E: Variable 'meter' is not set, func: set_volume |
| 15:56.02 | Elive_user_en_21 | so your command does the same thing |
| 15:56.10 | Elive_user_en_21 | trigger the Audio selector to show up |
| 15:56.16 | Elive_user_en_21 | and if I close it, error message |
| 15:56.50 | Elive_user_en_21 | you should built in something in Elive for us to CLICK, if we want, to allow you to entrer in our computer easily |
| 15:56.55 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_21: amixer scontrols | elivepaste |
| 15:56.59 | Elive_user_en_21 | you would do your stuff more easily I think |
| 15:57.17 | Elive_user_en_21 | [(piped)] http://paste.debian.net/1031192/ |
| 15:57.24 | Thanatermesis | click is slow with mouse and requires an ugly gadget in desktop |
| 15:57.33 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 15:58.06 | Elive_user_en_21 | appear.in is the simplest tool I used to share screen... no application needed but work well with chrome |
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| 15:58.38 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 15:58.57 | Thanatermesis | sharing screens is useless, doesnt give much power and is hugely slow |
| 15:59.10 | Thanatermesis | i do everything from terminals :), much more powerful and fast than a visual stuff |
| 15:59.41 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_21, your volumes thing is a bit strange, i should need to access remotely to your computer to see why it doesnt works correctly |
| 15:59.48 | Thanatermesis | if you want me to |
| 16:00.23 | Elive_user_en_21 | sure |
| 16:00.43 | Thanatermesis | for that you will need to run the command "eliveremote" and follow the steps |
| 16:00.50 | Thanatermesis | but now... im going to eat! its very late already |
| 16:00.56 | Thanatermesis | so give me some imnutes |
| 16:01.12 | Elive_user_en_21 | if you prefer another day let me know |
| 16:01.21 | Elive_user_en_21 | so in how long ? |
| 16:01.27 | Thanatermesis | like 30 min |
| 16:01.46 | Elive_user_en_21 | ok |
| 16:02.23 | Elive_user_en_21 | see you in around 30 |
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| 16:05.11 | Thanatermesis | ok, brb |
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| 16:05.51 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 16:57.48 | Thanatermesis | back |
| 16:57.48 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_21! =) |
| 16:57.56 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_21, hows going? |
| 16:57.56 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody! |
| 16:57.57 | Elive_user_en_21 | ME TOO |
| 16:58.06 | Thanatermesis | ok lets run eliveremote then |
| 16:58.22 | Elive_user_en_21 | one sec |
| 16:58.52 | Elive_user_en_21 | 2018 pwd |
| 16:59.30 | Thanatermesis | you have a big screen Elive_user_en_21 lol |
| 16:59.41 | Elive_user_en_21 | LOL |
| 16:59.57 | Elive_user_en_21 | let me know if I can help |
| 17:00.32 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_21, yes, configure again from audio-configurator to use the USB one |
| 17:01.23 | Elive_user_en_21 | done |
| 17:03.02 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_21, is your keyboard volumes working now? |
| 17:03.16 | Elive_user_en_21 | trying |
| 17:04.03 | Elive_user_en_21 | headset and volume on kyboad seems ok now you changed something ? |
| 17:04.14 | Thanatermesis | nope! |
| 17:04.17 | Elive_user_en_21 | !!! |
| 17:04.19 | Thanatermesis | i didnt changed anything |
| 17:04.23 | Thanatermesis | just updated elive-tools package |
| 17:04.24 | Elive_user_en_21 | will try with youtube |
| 17:04.30 | Thanatermesis | but you did it before too so... hum... |
| 17:05.17 | Elive_user_en_21 | ok working too Youtube... I have a guess : |
| 17:05.46 | Elive_user_en_21 | I lost the application bar / panel at the bottom so I use one of your app called RESTART DESKTOP |
| 17:06.01 | Elive_user_en_21 | it somekind of brought me back to choosing language, keyboard |
| 17:06.17 | Elive_user_en_21 | so I assume what you did me do, needed a log out lock back in |
| 17:06.20 | Elive_user_en_21 | but sound now ok |
| 17:06.38 | Elive_user_en_21 | no more error message when pressing key |
| 17:06.40 | Thanatermesis | oh |
| 17:06.49 | Thanatermesis | the restarting desktop removes all hte onfigurations of desktop |
| 17:06.57 | Thanatermesis | but audio ones are re-generated on new desktop too |
| 17:07.11 | Thanatermesis | but... well, anyhow, it works with the last version of the package :) |
| 17:07.13 | keyra | :) |
| 17:07.15 | Elive_user_en_21 | so what you made me do has been lost doing that ? |
| 17:07.39 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_21, sidetone is the meter for hear yourself in the headphones? |
| 17:07.58 | Thanatermesis | not sure to understand the last sentence of Elive_user_en_21 |
| 17:08.26 | Thanatermesis | basically: apui elive-tools updates that package, which includes the audio configurations, which are improved and works with your computer :) |
| 17:08.34 | Elive_user_en_21 | mose OS when you increase or lower volum, some visual meter appear on the screen... Exemple suppose there is no sound and we see on the screen that meter is up, then it mean our speaker are OFF LOL |
| 17:08.43 | Thanatermesis | if you want to install: run "apug" later on the installed system to have the last version of the packages |
| 17:09.03 | Elive_user_en_21 | restarting the desktop did I lost what apui elive-tools did ? |
| 17:09.07 | Elive_user_en_21 | Suppose no |
| 17:09.10 | Elive_user_en_21 | else it would not work now |
| 17:09.27 | Thanatermesis | no, it restarted your audio configuration, so it selected "auto mode" |
| 17:09.36 | Elive_user_en_21 | weird.... |
| 17:09.48 | Thanatermesis | not weird, clean environment :) |
| 17:10.05 | Elive_user_en_21 | as for to put the application pannel on the right monitor, anu ideas ? |
| 17:10.06 | Thanatermesis | "oh my audio not works" -> restart desktop configurations -> it works back lol |
| 17:10.09 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 17:10.36 | Thanatermesis | by other side i think that should keep it instead... |
| 17:10.36 | Elive_user_en_21 | making the right monitor the efault, does not bring the application panel on the right monitor |
| 17:12.15 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user_en_21, maybe you need to reload enlightemnet |
| 17:12.20 | Thanatermesis | ctrl alt end |
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| 17:12.21 | keyra | hit 'ctrl + alt + end' for reload your desktop, or use the menu Enlightenment -> restart |
| 17:14.46 | Elive_user_en_21 | doing that bring the 2 monitor in mirroing mode... I now have to use ARandR to stop the mirror mode and ScreenSetup does not impact me choosing the default monitor.. If I do, still left HDMI connected monitor the default |
| 17:16.21 | Thanatermesis | because enlightenment sets back its screen configuration (ignoring yours in arandr) |
| 17:16.22 | Elive_user_en_21 | what is crucial is working. Dropbox, Keybase filesystem ( cloud... Even if chat/forum can't be used as app do not show in system tray but I'll use a VM ) |
| 17:16.35 | Thanatermesis | does the enlightenment screen configurator works good for you ? |
| 17:16.49 | Elive_user_en_21 | hum trying to find where it is one sec never used it |
| 17:16.52 | Thanatermesis | see that its interface is tricky, wiht hidden options like rotating screens |
| 17:17.02 | Thanatermesis | enlightenment -> preferences -> screen |
| 17:17.04 | Elive_user_en_21 | only use ARandR and Screen setuip |
| 17:17.39 | Thanatermesis | if the configurator of enlightenment works for you, us ethis one, will save your configuration |
| 17:18.01 | Elive_user_en_21 | still looking for it |
| 17:18.10 | Elive_user_en_21 | don;t see it in the enlightenment menu |
| 17:18.15 | Thanatermesis | enlightenment -> preferences -> screen |
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| 17:18.18 | Thanatermesis | enlightenment -> preferences -> screen |
| 17:18.33 | Thanatermesis | more exaclty: |
| 17:18.42 | Elive_user_en_21 | I only see about, themes, restart |
| 17:18.45 | Elive_user_en_21 | in that menu |
| 17:19.00 | Thanatermesis | settings -> setting panel -> screen -> screen setup |
| 17:19.46 | Elive_user_en_21 | this one allow me to chose primary output but it has no impact after I hit apply |
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| 17:21.14 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, well, i told you that this app is more buggy :) |
| 17:21.17 | keyra | :) |
| 17:21.17 | Thanatermesis | less complete, etc |
| 17:21.24 | Thanatermesis | so you need to use arandr |
| 17:21.33 | Thanatermesis | the problem is that you need to redo your configuration everytime |
| 17:21.34 | Elive_user_en_21 | arrandr does not have that option in the GUI |
| 17:21.56 | Thanatermesis | which one? to set primary/secondary screens? |
| 17:22.08 | Thanatermesis | I assume that have you tried all the options |
| 17:22.31 | Elive_user_en_21 | ArrandR allow to chose which monitor is on the right or left, play with resolution |
| 17:22.43 | Elive_user_en_21 | no choose the Default ( Primary) |
| 17:22.52 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, ok, then yuou have only one option left :) |
| 17:23.05 | Elive_user_en_21 | swtich to windows ? |
| 17:23.06 | Elive_user_en_21 | joke |
| 17:23.11 | Elive_user_en_21 | I will never go back to windows |
| 17:23.15 | Thanatermesis | heh :) |
| 17:23.28 | Elive_user_en_21 | even if I made money of it during 20 + years as an IT consultant |
| 17:23.44 | Elive_user_en_21 | so how do I put the application bar on the right monitor ? |
| 17:23.54 | Thanatermesis | you will need to use the xrandr command to set the screens as how you desire |
| 17:24.10 | Thanatermesis | with xrandr you can also reload the same configuration at every new session |
| 17:24.42 | Thanatermesis | https://xorg-team.pages.debian.net/xorg/howto/use-xrandr.html |
| 17:24.49 | Thanatermesis | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr |
| 17:26.16 | Elive_user_en_21 | ok tks. Will play with that tomorrow... What is crucial work, tomorrow or later tonight will make the big move... And I will report what I find significant in bugs... |
| 17:26.30 | Elive_user_en_21 | Tks for your help... Trying to help you, not only install an OS |
| 17:27.02 | Elive_user_en_21 | tomorrow I will be part of the Elive family... (no only Elive from USB) |
| 17:27.06 | Thanatermesis | yay, that could be nice :) so better 3.0 ! :D |
| 17:27.28 | Elive_user_en_21 | no more quest ion for now tks |
| 17:27.48 | Thanatermesis | in the arch wiki you have examples to set primary |
| 17:27.51 | Thanatermesis | screen* |
| 17:28.14 | Elive_user_en_21 | ok |
| 17:28.35 | Elive_user_en_21 | the audio thing you made me do, once I install 2.9.97 on my PC, I should run it again ? |
| 17:29.12 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 17:29.15 | Thanatermesis | upgrading packages first |
| 17:29.39 | Elive_user_en_21 | apui -y elive-tools |
| 17:30.05 | Elive_user_en_21 | that's it ? |
| 17:30.26 | Thanatermesis | i wonder if i could include a better screens configurator in Elive to make work multiple screens by default... hum |
| 17:30.28 | keyra | wonder! wonder! |
| 17:30.35 | Elive_user_en_21 | YES !!!! |
| 17:30.39 | Thanatermesis | yep, that is for upgrading that package only, or "apug" for all of them |
| 17:30.49 | Thanatermesis | <Elive_user_en_21> YES !!!! |
| 17:30.56 | Elive_user_en_21 | You should, you'll loose less people along their TRIAL of Elive |
| 17:31.08 | Thanatermesis | this will require me some betatestings and stuf... and it will delay again the stable version... but maybe is a good thing to include |
| 17:31.16 | Thanatermesis | dont know how many users have multiple screens |
| 17:31.29 | Thanatermesis | yeah, that is a good point |
| 17:31.47 | Thanatermesis | but in any case there's not much people trying Elive lol |
| 17:31.53 | Elive_user_en_21 | for me sound and monitor was complicated LOL as I love doing it and I am patient and had time, you didn't lost me... but yes I would make it easier |
| 17:32.24 | Elive_user_en_21 | Will record an english and french review tomorrow or next week |
| 17:32.33 | Thanatermesis | so i would need you to betatest it too if i add it :) |
| 17:32.35 | keyra | :) |
| 17:32.41 | Elive_user_en_21 | we'll se i f it bring traffic to your site |
| 17:32.48 | Elive_user_en_21 | tks going now... Goooood night |
| 17:32.58 | Thanatermesis | good night Elive_user_en_21 :) |
| 17:33.01 | keyra | good night to you too! |
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| 18:01.34 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user9! =) |
| 18:16.07 | Thanatermesis | Wohoooo ! 3.06 GB reached! |
| 18:16.10 | Thanatermesis | looks at Elmo40 |
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| 18:28.04 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user1! =) |
| 18:28.12 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody! |
| 18:28.20 | Elive_user1 | 2.88 whooooo |
| 18:28.25 | Elive_user1 | looks again at Elmo40 |
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| 18:59.52 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_es_93! =) |
| 19:00.00 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us so we can make it better? for a direct assistance just talk to Thanatermesi or use http://bugs.elivecd.org , your feedbacks is important for improve Elive and your reports are for the correct work for everybody! |
| 19:03.32 | Elive_user_es_93 | keyra, gorgeous |
| 19:03.33 | Elive_user_es_93 | 2.75 |
| 19:03.36 | Elive_user_es_93 | 2.75 GB |
| 19:04.03 | Elive_user_es_93 | is making happy Elmo40 |
| 19:40.52 | Thanatermesis | â |
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| 19:53.14 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 20:18.55 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 20:34.56 | Thanatermesis | dances |
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| 23:09.50 | Elmo40 | i'm here |
| 23:10.34 | Elmo40 | what is hebernate? |
| 23:16.09 | Elmo40 | Thanatermesis, less than 3GB? nice. |
| 23:17.03 | Thanatermesis | hebernate is the feature in Elive for hibernate :) |
| 23:17.06 | keyra | :) |
| 23:17.08 | Thanatermesis | & suspend |
| 23:17.41 | Thanatermesis | Elmo40, if you remove not-needed software after install it will be even much less! |
| 23:18.16 | Thanatermesis | in fact, let me verify the last test... |
| 23:18.34 | Elmo40 | <= 1.5GB? |
| 23:18.56 | Elmo40 | so... after you remove all non-Thana apps, can you save that image and send me the ISO ? :-D |
| 23:19.40 | Thanatermesis | WOHOOOO !!! 2.68 GB !!!! |
| 23:19.44 | Thanatermesis | dances with keyra |
| 23:20.24 | Thanatermesis | Elmo40, yeah, as said, that could be a nice "elive vanilla" version :), its on mind... unfortunately there's more ideas in mind than hands lol |
| 23:22.16 | Elmo40 | more ideas? |
| 23:22.18 | Elmo40 | nah... |
| 23:22.21 | Elmo40 | i need vanilla. |
| 23:22.36 | Elmo40 | and regular, with whipped cream and cherry on top |
| 23:22.37 | Elmo40 | ;-) |
| 23:23.31 | Thanatermesis | thousands of ideas, yea |
| 23:23.42 | Thanatermesis | heh :) |
| 23:23.45 | keyra | :) |
| 23:24.04 | Thanatermesis | damn... i should have released 3.0 and im just improving it even more... |
| 23:24.08 | Thanatermesis | spanks himself |
| 23:24.10 | keyra | pants OFF! |
| 23:29.39 | Elmo40 | release it on July 01. |
| 23:29.45 | Elmo40 | That is Canada Day :-) |
| 23:30.04 | Elmo40 | then, in a week or so, make 3.0.1 for minor updates... he he |
| 23:35.32 | Thanatermesis | impossible, i will be busy from 1 to 8 |
| 23:35.42 | Thanatermesis | so better to release later in order to have control of what is going on |
| 23:35.47 | Thanatermesis | also, i need to finish the website |
| 23:38.10 | Thanatermesis | and finish to configure the new dedicated mirror for the siso |
