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| 13:39.14 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_es_15! =) we hope you enjoy this system |
| 13:39.22 | keyra | if you have any suggestion or issue to report just tell us, so we can make even better this system for everybody! you can also use http://bugs.elivecd.org Oh btw! press control-s to set your real nickname :) |
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| 13:46.44 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 13:52.21 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 13:52.24 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 14:08.39 | Thanatermesis | o/ |
| 14:08.41 | keyra | hi! |
| 14:50.41 | jfbourdeau | Good morning keyra |
| 14:52.05 | Naglfar | Thanatermesis, have you ever tryed using midori? |
| 15:09.45 | Thanatermesis | https://www.facebook.com/elive/posts/1336758723048893:0 Naglfar |
| 15:10.19 | Naglfar | Thanatermesis, do you know something about snapd ? |
| 15:16.38 | Thanatermesis | no, there are multiple package managers but i dont know which ones could work good for Elive |
| 15:16.51 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, maybe we need a "research" category? ^ |
| 15:16.53 | Thanatermesis | in the forum * |
| 15:19.10 | jfbourdeau | snap is so easy for people like m to install apps ! I love it... https://docs.snapcraft.io/core/install-debian |
| 15:19.38 | jfbourdeau | example of how to install an app : https://snapcraft.io/telegram-desktop |
| 15:19.46 | jfbourdeau | sudo snap install telegram-desktop that's it |
| 15:20.13 | jfbourdeau | several distro use flatpak / Flathub |
| 15:20.48 | jfbourdeau | https://flathub.org/home |
| 15:21.18 | jfbourdeau | As for the RESEACH, I am scared we'Ll have to many Category / forum but " may be we need it " |
| 15:21.44 | Thanatermesis | i will need to do a research to all of them to know which is the better option, they has good and bad things, and different features |
| 15:22.03 | jfbourdeau | snap : to remove an app sudo snap remove THENAME OF THE AP |
| 15:22.15 | jfbourdeau | see snap apps installed snap list |
| 15:22.52 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, yeah we can ingore the "may be" but include the "must have" ones, but also having some already enabled that improves the structure and will not lead to a future unorganized forum |
| 15:24.39 | jfbourdeau | instead of WIsh List or Research whast do you think of a name as "THE FUTURE OF ELIVE" ( and description : Discusion about what Elive should or could becoms, wish list, etc ) |
| 15:24.44 | jfbourdeau | something like that ? |
| 15:25.08 | jfbourdeau | Or you prefer a RESEARCH and WISH LIST in 2 different section ? |
| 15:32.49 | Thanatermesis | hum... |
| 15:32.58 | Thanatermesis | better than "wishlist", "suggestions" IMHO |
| 15:33.06 | Thanatermesis | and about "the future of elive", not sure... |
| 15:33.39 | Thanatermesis | about "research" i think that is a different thing (research requires a study/betatesting work, is not like a "simple suggestion") |
| 15:34.19 | jfbourdeau | I am ok with that. Think you're right |
| 15:34.31 | jfbourdeau | So Suggestions ? And Research ? |
| 15:34.38 | Thanatermesis | im a bit scared about the word "the future of elive", people could start making too much/crazy decisions like saying "be based in ubuntu instead of debian" and can lead to a saturation of discusions mmmh.... |
| 15:34.51 | jfbourdeau | agree |
| 15:35.26 | Thanatermesis | suggestions sounds good, and research... on which category? |
| 15:36.23 | Thanatermesis | i think that we can ignore research, is more like an internal (development) thing, not a user thing... users can do their own research when suggesting |
| 15:38.09 | Thanatermesis | we can use a tag for that |
| 15:38.16 | Thanatermesis | "require research" or "improve research" |
| 15:40.13 | jfbourdeau | So the Research Category within the STAFF Category ? Internal / Staff/admin only |
| 15:40.52 | jfbourdeau | and yes using tag, people can specify what it is... Without have to create to many sections(Category) |
| 15:41.06 | jfbourdeau | Did you take a look at the online document ? |
| 15:41.16 | jfbourdeau | for the new structure |
| 15:41.33 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> So the Research Category within the STAFF Category ? Internal / Staff/admin only |
| 15:41.39 | Thanatermesis | oh, or maybe in the "Participate" one |
| 15:42.05 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> Did you take a look at the online document ? |
| 15:42.10 | Thanatermesis | yes, just finished to comment it :) |
| 15:42.12 | keyra | :) |
| 15:42.15 | jfbourdeau | OOPs confusion here, I though by saying " think that we can ignore research, is more like an internal (development) thing " you wanted it for admin only |
| 15:42.20 | jfbourdeau | but it's the name you didn't like |
| 15:43.04 | jfbourdeau | I'll go and look at your comments |
| 15:43.59 | Thanatermesis | just added the research part in the participate (get involved) section |
| 15:44.16 | jfbourdeau | BTW I am not certain I used your collaboration tool properly LOL |
| 15:44.25 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, can you list here some ideas about the links that we need in the header? |
| 15:44.32 | Thanatermesis | just list everything that comes to your mind :) |
| 15:44.40 | Thanatermesis | researching for a plugin functinality for that |
| 15:45.08 | jfbourdeau | ok I see it |
| 15:45.49 | jfbourdeau | here here LOL IRC ? on in the document ? Which link at the top ( DOnation thing, web site, bus report ) is it what you are saying ? |
| 15:46.02 | keyra | I'm the good and the bad, the black and the white, the alpha and omega, I'm beyond time, there's no atomic substances on me and my form is pure energy, I'm a reflection of my echo resonating across the universe from the future, so what I'm, you know now? |
| 15:46.51 | jfbourdeau | Green comments, is it you ? |
| 15:47.08 | Thanatermesis | yep |
| 15:47.12 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 15:48.12 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, ok about header links, list more of them in the document (bottom) |
| 15:48.22 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 15:48.44 | Thanatermesis | im looking if there's a specific plugin that can do the work |
| 15:49.47 | Thanatermesis | https://meta.discourse.org/t/iconified-header-links/86307 |
| 15:49.49 | Thanatermesis | this one jfbourdeau ^ |
| 15:49.59 | Thanatermesis | icons in header which are links, with a name when you mouse-over it |
| 15:50.05 | jfbourdeau | BTW 1st time I see this http://www.elivecd.org/donation LOL so it is ok ;-) |
| 15:50.08 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 15:50.32 | Thanatermesis | so bad if is the first time you saw it lol, it needs to be more visible then |
| 15:51.08 | jfbourdeau | yea cool for the plugin https://meta.discourse.org/t/iconified-header-links/86307 that alloow to put icons at the top |
| 15:54.53 | jfbourdeau | I like what this group did tat the top, the welcome and everything important there FAQ, Web, IRC |
| 15:54.54 | jfbourdeau | https://forum.syncthing.net/ |
| 15:55.44 | jfbourdeau | And you are right with MAIN CATEGORY with SUB CATEGORY... Take a look at their english section : |
| 15:55.45 | jfbourdeau | https://community.endlessos.com/ |
| 15:55.49 | jfbourdeau | 2nd section |
| 15:56.31 | jfbourdeau | this group used main gategory and no sub-section ( sub-category) https://discourse.ubuntubudgie.org/ |
| 15:57.19 | jfbourdeau | What I like about the 2nd is that it is simple... LOL just a few category |
| 15:57.55 | jfbourdeau | but endless seem to have created sub-category for all the main LANGUAGES |
| 15:57.59 | jfbourdeau | https://community.endlessos.com/ |
| 15:58.15 | jfbourdeau | Let's keep it ENGLISH for now LOL |
| 15:59.28 | jfbourdeau | ok syncthing : https://forum.syncthing.net/categories (this link ins a category view link) |
| 16:00.08 | Thanatermesis | categories in endless looks beautifully organized |
| 16:00.15 | Thanatermesis | with nice colors too |
| 16:02.01 | jfbourdeau | ok I am sold to the Endless way of doing it ... Taking a look if people seem to write POSTS in the main category container ( one sec ) |
| 16:03.44 | jfbourdeau | Ok we can setup our permissions so the main container ( Category) can only received post from who we want ( Admin) |
| 16:03.50 | Thanatermesis | having things in the main category is like having icons in the screen desktop |
| 16:04.19 | jfbourdeau | SO do we agree main sections( Caterory, only admin can post something) but 99% of the stuff will go in the sub-categories |
| 16:04.20 | Thanatermesis | "your desktop is not your trash where to put every forgotten thing" |
| 16:04.24 | Thanatermesis | icons * |
| 16:04.30 | jfbourdeau | LOL agree |
| 16:05.07 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> Ok we can setup our permissions so the main container ( Category) can only received post from who we want ( Admin) |
| 16:05.09 | Thanatermesis | that sounds good :) |
| 16:05.11 | keyra | :) |
| 16:05.19 | Thanatermesis | or just disable entirely |
| 16:06.39 | jfbourdeau | all categories will have the main default about post.. What we write in it is what appear under the name on the main screen ( description of what this category is for ) |
| 16:07.36 | jfbourdeau | From here do we start " duplicating " the tructure of your document ? and we'll teak modify the Online Live version if needed ? As your document is 90% good ? |
| 16:07.39 | jfbourdeau | :-/ |
| 16:08.44 | jfbourdeau | if we prefer the collaborative document to be perfect before duplicating, no problems |
| 16:08.54 | jfbourdeau | Else I'll jump into the action |
| 16:09.16 | jfbourdeau | JaJaJa ( practising my spanish LOL ) |
| 16:10.21 | jfbourdeau | where I hesitate (look / aesthetic question ) is that this group is using different colors for sub sections : See Annouce https://forum.syncthing.net/categories |
| 16:10.39 | jfbourdeau | Endless use the same color for main and sub section https://community.endlessos.com/ |
| 16:11.11 | jfbourdeau | if we use different color for sub seciton see the 1st post on the right, the post as simply 2 color under it |
| 16:11.12 | jfbourdeau | https://forum.syncthing.net/categories |
| 16:11.33 | jfbourdeau | POST How tu build syncthing for ANdroid .... |
| 16:12.52 | jfbourdeau | BTW when we mouse over a subsection, we can see the legend / mean description of the main or sub category... COol |
| 16:13.01 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 16:13.28 | jfbourdeau | LOL Keyra |
| 16:17.52 | jfbourdeau | discourse themselves use diffeent colors for sub section https://meta.discourse.org/categories |
| 16:18.20 | jfbourdeau | see plugin section |
| 16:19.11 | jfbourdeau | see their default display for plugin https://meta.discourse.org/c/plugin |
| 16:20.12 | jfbourdeau | we can default or not sub category to appear at the top |
| 16:20.16 | jfbourdeau | Example 1 : https://meta.discourse.org/c/dev |
| 16:20.27 | jfbourdeau | example 2 https://meta.discourse.org/c/support |
| 16:20.52 | jfbourdeau | Example 3 : https://meta.discourse.org/c/howto |
| 16:22.52 | jfbourdeau | As for how things are displayed within a Main category, that's not the end of the world if we change the default display... BUt the structure need to be as good as possible from start (hierarchy) |
| 16:23.50 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> all categories will have the main default about post.. What we write in it is what appear under the name on the main screen ( description of what this category is for ) |
| 16:24.00 | Thanatermesis | maybe we can ignore some descriptions if the name is enough descriptive |
| 16:24.12 | Thanatermesis | people dont want to read, read is slower and is useless if you already communicate the meaning |
| 16:24.58 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> Else I'll jump into the action |
| 16:25.04 | Thanatermesis | yes, let's start importing the categories :) |
| 16:25.06 | keyra | :) |
| 16:25.15 | Thanatermesis | starting by the most "accepted ones", like "Elive system" |
| 16:25.17 | jfbourdeau | I understand... I am taking a loook again at others : https://meta.discourse.org/categories https://forum.syncthing.net/categories and Endkless https://community.endlessos.com/ wrote Click on one of these categories to browse or contribute by topic i some category |
| 16:25.28 | Thanatermesis | then we start removing them from the document to follow it more clear |
| 16:25.53 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> Endless use the same color for main and sub section https://community.endlessos.com/ |
| 16:26.01 | Thanatermesis | yeah, not convinced on that (even if looks good) |
| 16:26.03 | jfbourdeau | as for the category alread there and threads already there, we'll see which one are important to " move " to new sections |
| 16:26.12 | Thanatermesis | note: maybe they needs that because uses same categories in different langauges |
| 16:26.34 | jfbourdeau | I prefere different subc color https://forum.syncthing.net/categories |
| 16:26.50 | jfbourdeau | https://meta.discourse.org/categories see plugin ( sub color) cool |
| 16:27.18 | jfbourdeau | OK I am starting in a few minutes lOL grabing a glass of water 1st |
| 16:27.47 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, let's use the collaborative document to describe the colors structure (bottom) |
| 16:28.41 | jfbourdeau | Are your OK I create sections, proper permissions and you'll gover me for TYPOS and colors of your choice ? LOL |
| 16:29.26 | jfbourdeau | all main sections, users won be able to post as discussed |
| 16:29.54 | jfbourdeau | TYPO " you'll go over what I did" to choose colors |
| 16:32.14 | Thanatermesis | I just writed a draft of the colors strucutre, just brainstorming it... |
| 16:33.11 | jfbourdeau | I hate artist like you LOL You make things complicated " BUT " I must admin you make them look better JOKE |
| 16:33.37 | jfbourdeau | must admit |
| 16:34.23 | jfbourdeau | As I do it and apply your suggestions by seeing it, it'll be easier to visualize the end result... I'm starting |
| 16:34.57 | jfbourdeau | I do agree that color will not only make it more beautifull but also more intuitive |
| 16:36.05 | Thanatermesis | wait wait |
| 16:36.11 | Thanatermesis | still reading the first messages lol |
| 16:36.21 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 16:36.22 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> Let's keep it ENGLISH for now LOL |
| 16:36.24 | Thanatermesis | YEAH |
| 16:37.16 | Thanatermesis | only a small section for extra languages, with everything for every extra common language (not a structure), engaging people to use the real structures/categories and to talk in english, dont separate people lol |
| 16:39.10 | jfbourdeau | You described wich COLOR could represent WHAT but I'll let you apply that color yourself and comment LOL ok ? |
| 16:40.05 | jfbourdeau | ok for languages Me I don't care about speaking Chineese as long as we understand eachother... SO English is the simplest thing for everyone , period ;-) but yes a section for other languages is ok |
| 16:41.08 | jfbourdeau | Question, Releases & Changelogs people can comment ? REPLY ? |
| 16:41.25 | jfbourdeau | I would guess : yes |
| 16:44.31 | Thanatermesis | wait... i think that we are confused |
| 16:44.47 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 16:44.51 | jfbourdeau | waiting |
| 16:45.04 | Thanatermesis | mmh... |
| 16:45.38 | Thanatermesis | well, we could disable the write in main categories (let's try that for now), but i thin kthat the main categories always show all the posts from their subcategories... in the end it looks good if is like this: https://community.endlessos.com/c/en |
| 16:46.31 | Thanatermesis | so you have the visually-colored category list on which you can click for that specific subsection and read only the posts for that subscection |
| 16:47.27 | Thanatermesis | yeah it looks the same for us: https://forum.elivelinux.org/c/staff |
| 16:47.32 | Thanatermesis | thats good :) |
| 16:47.35 | keyra | :) |
| 16:47.55 | jfbourdeau | you are right https://meta.discourse.org/c/plugin Main category show post from sub category we can't can't post within a main category |
| 16:48.00 | jfbourdeau | COol and I am ok with that |
| 16:49.42 | jfbourdeau | if you go in https://meta.discourse.org/c/plugin and mouse over CREATE you can't.... Endless them the forgot to do the same so we can post in their main category |
| 16:49.43 | jfbourdeau | https://community.endlessos.com/c/en |
| 16:49.51 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 16:50.42 | jfbourdeau | What is good about forcing to post in a sub category is that it will keep things organized... but the cons is that sometime the sub category won't apply to someone TOPIC and to be able to post, they will post within a category that is not good for their topics to be able to post |
| 16:50.57 | jfbourdeau | But I am ok with that vs the opposite ( a mess in the main category ) |
| 16:51.34 | jfbourdeau | DO I wait or continue ? |
| 16:52.34 | jfbourdeau | As for the line or paragraph describing main or sub categorym we'll add them after... And don't forget at least one line would be cool as if the user mouse over the title, he sees the descrition / what this category is intended for,... |
| 16:52.36 | Thanatermesis | 2<20jfbourdeau2> Are your OK I create sections, proper permissions and you'll gover me for TYPOS and colors of your choice ? LOL |
| 16:52.39 | Thanatermesis | yep :) |
| 16:52.41 | keyra | :) |
| 16:52.50 | jfbourdeau | And w'ell have a video, Crash course 101 on all those little tips |
| 16:53.12 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> see their default display for plugin https://meta.discourse.org/c/plugin |
| 16:53.24 | Thanatermesis | i think thats better to not have it like this (even if looks nice, makes more confusing) |
| 16:53.33 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 16:53.40 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> As for how things are displayed within a Main category, that's not the end of the world if we change the default display... BUt the structure need to be as good as possible from start (hierarchy) |
| 16:53.42 | jfbourdeau | wil trey to see where or how to do it |
| 16:53.43 | Thanatermesis | yep, totally agree |
| 16:54.03 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> as for the category alread there and threads already there, we'll see which one are important to " move " to new sections |
| 16:54.09 | Thanatermesis | yeah, or rename or delete |
| 16:55.06 | jfbourdeau | in admin category CHage log annoucemnts etc we allow replies ? I would say yes |
| 16:56.17 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> You described wich COLOR could represent WHAT but I'll let you apply that color yourself and comment LOL ok ? |
| 16:56.30 | Thanatermesis | yes, or just set a probable one and it will be changed later if rquried |
| 16:56.37 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> Question, Releases & Changelogs people can comment ? REPLY ? |
| 16:56.55 | jfbourdeau | As for the default view in a main section to look like this https://meta.discourse.org/c/plugin I didn't find.... but after creating the structure, I'll look for the way to do it... |
| 16:57.08 | Thanatermesis | i think that people should be always be able to answer, no matter which category (otherwise should be private ones) |
| 16:57.17 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 16:57.35 | Thanatermesis | and only in "announce" (since its official stuff) they should not be able to CREATE NEW ones (but still be able to answer existing ones) |
| 16:57.46 | jfbourdeau | agree |
| 16:58.13 | jfbourdeau | ok found it |
| 16:58.25 | jfbourdeau | What do you prefer : this https://forum.elivelinux.org/c/announcements let me know when you saw it I will change it |
| 16:58.56 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> What is good about forcing to post in a sub category is that it will keep things organized... but the cons is that sometime the sub category won't apply to someone TOPIC and to be able to post, they will post within a category that is not good for their topics to be able to post |
| 16:59.11 | Thanatermesis | we will see that over time (when moving needed topics) and see if we need different subsections or what to do |
| 16:59.24 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> DO I wait or continue ? |
| 16:59.37 | Thanatermesis | yeah continue, i was just brainstorming something about the subsections but it was correct :) |
| 16:59.39 | keyra | :) |
| 17:00.07 | jfbourdeau | what do you prefer at the top of main section : this view https://meta.discourse.org/c/plugin or this https://forum.elivelinux.org/c/announcements |
| 17:00.57 | jfbourdeau | We have the hoice of Boxes or Rows Both case, they are at the top |
| 17:01.29 | jfbourdeau | and for boxes and Rows we can choose FEATURE( suppose it mean most active but we'll see later ) |
| 17:02.04 | jfbourdeau | I'll continue with other sections and will change the default look at the top after you saw my 2 examples above |
| 17:03.16 | Thanatermesis | 2<20jfbourdeau2> What do you prefer : this https://forum.elivelinux.org/c/announcements let me know when you saw it I will change it |
| 17:03.19 | Thanatermesis | better ours one :) |
| 17:03.24 | Thanatermesis | yes ^ |
| 17:03.29 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 17:13.03 | Thanatermesis | do we really these "pinned default topics" ? i think that they are like bigger descriptions (there's not already one for the category?), maybe we should ignore them almost entirely? |
| 17:15.42 | jfbourdeau | You are may be right. I will test now something for annoucments |
| 17:19.15 | jfbourdeau | no we can't the About this category default post is the one that show info if we mouse over a category and also in the webpage (from what I tested... But, we'll invitigate later again) |
| 17:19.24 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 17:19.34 | jfbourdeau | but not sure we're talking about the same thing one sec |
| 17:19.57 | Thanatermesis | im not sure if the forum is "lock"-featured (cannot edit the same thing by 2 persons at the same time), so ill report changes to you: |
| 17:20.15 | Thanatermesis | - anouncemneets: new features: remove the "betatesters" word from it |
| 17:20.18 | keyra | muahaha! wet shoes :) http://dev.elivecd.org/wiki/HowtoBugBuster |
| 17:20.37 | Thanatermesis | keyra, wtf are you doing? you looks bored heh |
| 17:20.50 | jfbourdeau | done |
| 17:21.14 | jfbourdeau | as long as we're not in the same category, editing, at the same, you can change it |
| 17:21.34 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 17:36.57 | jfbourdeau | not important but by mistake when playing with permission, i added to some categories ADMIN can Write and Reply... but admin do not need that line added... It as no impact but wanted to let you know... Will remove it later |
| 17:38.07 | jfbourdeau | for GUIDES I'll go whit that name but I don't like it.. Id you change your mind for Help & Tutorials let me know Not important for me |
| 17:43.55 | Thanatermesis | the thing about Guides is that i only found it useful for a Howto's subsection jfbourdeau |
| 17:44.13 | Thanatermesis | but if we want users to make their own howto's, then should be made in the "users corner" ? |
| 17:44.20 | jfbourdeau | no problem ok with that |
| 17:44.24 | Thanatermesis | users corner -> howtos |
| 17:44.27 | Thanatermesis | users corner -> tutorials |
| 17:44.57 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, i think that we can ingore the Guides section for now, maybe we dont need it that way |
| 17:45.05 | jfbourdeau | Guides is now up.... I didn't put descriptions of sections anywhere for now ( that also works if you we mouse-over them ) |
| 17:45.12 | jfbourdeau | oops |
| 17:45.14 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 17:45.23 | jfbourdeau | so where FAQs / how to go ? |
| 17:45.26 | keyra | check out http://www.elivecd.org/faq and http://forum.elivecd.org too |
| 17:47.15 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, for SEO reasons i think that the slugs should be no-caps and separate words with a - |
| 17:47.54 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, and also, the slug name is VERY important for SEO rank (the name must be related to what the people would search in google for it) |
| 17:48.26 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> so where FAQs / how to go ? |
| 17:48.40 | Thanatermesis | i think that the FAQ must be the one from the official Elive website, so let's ignore it for now |
| 17:48.47 | Thanatermesis | + header link |
| 17:50.49 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, note: when i used / in the categories was more like "synonims" than the final name to use, so basically the names with / is not a valid name lol |
| 17:51.07 | Thanatermesis | like htis one: * Marketing / advertising / promoting |
| 17:51.21 | Thanatermesis | it is more like "multiple possible names, let's brainstorm the final one" |
| 17:54.35 | jfbourdeau | about the slug name, I will let you correct them. I just made sure there were no space, as I though they were only for the Category URL |
| 17:55.41 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 17:56.00 | Thanatermesis | url == SEO value :) |
| 17:56.02 | keyra | :) |
| 17:56.11 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 17:56.14 | Thanatermesis | if you need spaces, just replace spaces with - for them |
| 17:56.40 | jfbourdeau | forum is slowly getting "elive" ;-) so you prefer - to _ ? ok |
| 17:57.40 | Thanatermesis | note: the description IS the first "about" post, so we need them |
| 17:57.49 | Thanatermesis | to change description we must just edit it |
| 17:57.55 | jfbourdeau | yes |
| 17:58.09 | Thanatermesis | yes, - is much more friendly/standard for urls |
| 18:02.26 | Thanatermesis | https://forum.elivelinux.org/c/system |
| 18:02.27 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 18:02.29 | keyra | :) |
| 18:03.42 | jfbourdeau | ?? |
| 18:03.57 | jfbourdeau | don't get it / what you want me to see |
| 18:04.17 | Thanatermesis | one-liners descriptions =) |
| 18:04.28 | jfbourdeau | LOL LOL LOL |
| 18:04.31 | jfbourdeau | Cool I missed it |
| 18:04.32 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, i just updated the names / description etc of the Elive System section |
| 18:04.41 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 18:05.41 | jfbourdeau | in the default view we see it when mouse over them https://forum.elivelinux.org/ |
| 18:05.50 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 18:05.58 | jfbourdeau | Keyra go to sleep |
| 18:06.01 | keyra | i never sleep, really |
| 18:06.17 | jfbourdeau | I'll make you sleep if you don't behave |
| 18:06.53 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 18:07.08 | Thanatermesis | yeah thats good :) |
| 18:07.21 | Thanatermesis | and short descriptions are perfect |
| 18:07.36 | Thanatermesis | otherwise, 10 lines long descriptions == user quit (and never come back) |
| 18:09.19 | jfbourdeau | ok I get it if we enter a main section then we see the descriptions you typed |
| 18:10.15 | jfbourdeau | agree for quick / Fast... To the web site, forum, Tutorial ( Videos, ) people need it to be fast... We live at a fast food era... That's why for tutorial, I like them for simple things... Simple / traight to the point |
| 18:11.44 | jfbourdeau | GOing to eat now... If you want to delete empty old categories go ahead ( if you have time else I'll do it)... And for those with contents we'Ll have to either delete ore move threads |
| 18:11.48 | jfbourdeau | talk to you later partner |
| 18:19.39 | Thanatermesis | ok, have a good meal :) will continue configure sections here.. |
| 18:31.32 | Thanatermesis | announcements: ready |
| 18:31.36 | Thanatermesis | Elive system: ready |
| 18:37.12 | Thanatermesis | note: slugs must be all in downcase |
| 18:40.57 | jfbourdeau | ok I am back |
| 18:41.17 | jfbourdeau | one vegan burger (delicious ! + one Beer ) |
| 18:41.38 | jfbourdeau | Will try to move acthal thread the best way I can |
| 18:41.42 | jfbourdeau | actual |
| 18:45.45 | Thanatermesis | I renamed the entire "Elive System" to a one-single-word categories jfbourdeau |
| 18:45.47 | Thanatermesis | looks better now? |
| 18:45.55 | Thanatermesis | thinks that is more intuitive |
| 18:47.00 | Thanatermesis | same for announcements |
| 18:49.54 | Thanatermesis | smae for Websites |
| 18:51.32 | jfbourdeau | one sec distraction here |
| 18:51.41 | jfbourdeau | my son / starting san online business |
| 18:53.59 | jfbourdeau | isn't announcements the same ? |
| 18:54.18 | Thanatermesis | mmh, i dont like much the "introduce yourself" concept, maybe nobody would use it, and we also have profiles for that (people should just fill them if they wants to share anything |
| 18:54.20 | jfbourdeau | as for System ok... or EliveOS ? |
| 18:54.25 | Thanatermesis | wha tyou think about removing that section? |
| 18:54.41 | jfbourdeau | Agree |
| 18:54.55 | jfbourdeau | gone |
| 18:55.23 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> as for System ok... or EliveOS ? |
| 18:55.41 | Thanatermesis | not sure, by one side users should already know "where they are", and EliveOS looks a bit ugly visually lol |
| 18:56.11 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 18:57.35 | jfbourdeau | DO I leave Hotos there ? If no, where do we put the howtos / Tutorial |
| 18:57.56 | jfbourdeau | And WishList ? |
| 18:58.19 | Thanatermesis | can be "Elive" (in Websites) be moved to the first one in the list? |
| 18:58.32 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> DO I leave Hotos there ? If no, where do we put the howtos / Tutorial |
| 18:58.36 | Thanatermesis | we have one in users corner |
| 18:59.25 | Thanatermesis | maybe it should be renamed from "tutorials" to "howtos" |
| 19:02.38 | jfbourdeau | ok the old one deleted |
| 19:02.56 | jfbourdeau | I agree... How do we write it ? |
| 19:03.03 | jfbourdeau | howtos How-to |
| 19:03.08 | jfbourdeau | howtos |
| 19:06.43 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, i re-created a new Announcements main category in order to not have a "description" for it |
| 19:06.49 | Thanatermesis | and moved all sub ones to it |
| 19:07.17 | jfbourdeau | no sure why you had to do that but OK LOL no problem |
| 19:07.40 | Thanatermesis | i cannot edit the description post, 30 min chars needed lol |
| 19:08.20 | jfbourdeau | Where do I put the ELive Wish List ? |
| 19:08.37 | jfbourdeau | As for putting ELive forum the 1st in the forum section, I don't know how yet |
| 19:09.02 | jfbourdeau | meant in the Websites sections |
| 19:09.34 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> Where do I put the ELive Wish List ? |
| 19:09.36 | jfbourdeau | think about WishList and I'll move the threads within new forum somewhere in the forums and delete new forum |
| 19:09.38 | Thanatermesis | in the "get involved" one :) |
| 19:09.41 | keyra | :) |
| 19:09.42 | Thanatermesis | let me update hte shared doc... |
| 19:17.18 | jfbourdeau | BTW I messed up when moving a or 2 threads.... I moved the Initial post without the REPLY Sorry I am being more carefull now that I realized it.. Trying to understand the interface |
| 19:17.39 | Thanatermesis | thats learning :) |
| 19:17.41 | keyra | :) |
| 19:17.48 | jfbourdeau | at least we were not a lot there |
| 19:18.19 | Thanatermesis | i think that the "announcements" needs an extra section for Websites (even if we have a Websites category), so about announcement things (like "new forum!"), and let the other main websites category be just "discussion about the site" |
| 19:18.25 | Thanatermesis | can you create it? ^ |
| 19:18.43 | jfbourdeau | I will google as it seeme I need to move the intial post and step 2 all the others.. Doesn ot make sense... Calling google... one sec |
| 19:19.08 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 19:20.23 | jfbourdeau | oops |
| 19:20.30 | jfbourdeau | ok I get it, you just chabged the name for old |
| 19:20.43 | jfbourdeau | moving websites again |
| 19:21.07 | Thanatermesis | :) |
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| 19:22.55 | Thanatermesis | i got how to organize subcategories: all of them can be changed in the main "reorder" feature |
| 19:23.04 | jfbourdeau | ok to move a thread right to the TITLE you EDIT and move to new category |
| 19:23.06 | Thanatermesis | fixed the Elive one before forum |
| 19:24.26 | Thanatermesis | perfect, just moved the banner to "announcements - websites" :) https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/do-you-like-this-community-keep-alive-this-website/88 |
| 19:26.03 | jfbourdeau | New forum Gone |
| 19:26.16 | jfbourdeau | moved threads to Web sites Forum |
| 19:26.32 | jfbourdeau | as for the thread for which I moved only the 1st post, we'll live with it |
| 19:27.43 | Thanatermesis | heh |
| 19:27.47 | Thanatermesis | which one is? let me make a look |
| 19:28.50 | jfbourdeau | as for http://www.elivecd.org/donation you will put it at the top of the forum ? instead of the other PATRON link ? |
| 19:29.13 | jfbourdeau | threads moves here https://forum.elivelinux.org/c/websites/forum |
| 19:30.59 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> as for http://www.elivecd.org/donation you will put it at the top of the forum ? instead of the other PATRON link ? |
| 19:31.04 | Thanatermesis | i think that both is OK |
| 19:31.17 | Thanatermesis | a main link, and that banner (which users can disable clickin in [X]) |
| 19:32.04 | jfbourdeau | I mean your other link include Paypal and all payment methode |
| 19:32.08 | jfbourdeau | methods |
| 19:32.14 | jfbourdeau | and the actual link only offer patreon |
| 19:32.31 | jfbourdeau | not urgent |
| 19:32.41 | Thanatermesis | do you have received a notification about a TAG change, jfbourdeau ? |
| 19:33.02 | jfbourdeau | nope |
| 19:34.36 | Thanatermesis | then i dont know how to make use of the tags like "improve-something" mmmh... :/ |
| 19:34.38 | keyra | :| |
| 19:34.49 | Thanatermesis | they can be useful to list them, but the user is not notified by just adding them |
| 19:35.22 | jfbourdeau | IF he watch the TAG in his profile yes |
| 19:35.49 | jfbourdeau | But Tags Watch list has to be created on a per user basis... From what i know for now |
| 19:35.59 | jfbourdeau | Wish List ? |
| 19:36.09 | jfbourdeau | Rename, leave it there, move it ? |
| 19:38.00 | Thanatermesis | wishlists -> suggestions | in the get involved (see shared document) |
| 19:39.30 | jfbourdeau | oops forgot that section |
| 19:42.25 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, remember to make slugs a single word all in downcase |
| 19:43.33 | jfbourdeau | you said ok with - ? |
| 19:43.59 | jfbourdeau | I will go over all the sluts oops slugs later " tonight for me) |
| 19:45.05 | jfbourdeau | ok lowercap was my maine mistake |
| 19:46.58 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> I will go over all the sluts oops slugs later " tonight for me) |
| 19:47.00 | Thanatermesis | i fixed them |
| 19:47.05 | Thanatermesis | check the 3 first categories |
| 19:47.19 | Thanatermesis | (slug = url part) |
| 19:47.40 | jfbourdeau | all main and sub category have to be double check |
| 19:49.35 | jfbourdeau | GEt involved done |
| 19:49.51 | Thanatermesis | tip: when mouse-over the subsections, you directly got the slug and the descript (slug in browser url in the bottom, descriptin in popup) |
| 19:50.01 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 19:51.09 | jfbourdeau | cool ok |
| 19:51.59 | jfbourdeau | ok need to go... Tks for the team work ! Be back later.... |
| 19:58.08 | Thanatermesis | have a nice day :) |
| 19:58.10 | keyra | :) |
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| 19:58.22 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 19:58.25 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 19:58.34 | Thanatermesis | im going to install plugins, let's everybody finish their tasks! |
| 20:00.43 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 20:01.07 | jfbourdeau | After that I will move the WishList in the Get involved suggestions |
| 20:03.05 | jfbourdeau | done |
| 20:03.18 | jfbourdeau | coming back later today |
| 20:04.02 | jfbourdeau | in Websites, how did you move Elive 1st ? |
| 20:04.12 | jfbourdeau | when you can let me know |
| 20:05.30 | Thanatermesis | in the same "reorganize categories" button, all of them are here |
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| 20:08.16 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 20:08.19 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 20:22.19 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 20:22.22 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 21:04.38 | Thanatermesis | plugins installed in Forum |
| 21:06.30 | jfbourdeau | Which ? ( leave a trace somewhere in Staff or Websites Forum |
| 21:06.47 | jfbourdeau | ok I see your posts |
| 21:06.51 | grottem | evening all |
| 21:07.14 | jfbourdeau | 5 pm here, good evening grottem |
| 21:08.49 | grottem | :p afther 4 pm it's evening :p |
| 21:08.51 | keyra | :þ |
| 21:08.52 | grottem | hehe |
| 21:09.03 | grottem | it's 11 pm here :p |
| 21:09.22 | jfbourdeau | buena tardes / almost nuches (sorry typo Than...Working on my spanish) |
| 21:09.36 | grottem | brb |
| 21:10.49 | jfbourdeau | how do you create checkboxes ? |
| 21:12.08 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> Which ? ( leave a trace somewhere in Staff or Websites Forum |
| 21:12.13 | Thanatermesis | updated in the first post: https://forum.elivelinux.org/t/implement-plugins/84 |
| 21:12.22 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 21:12.48 | Thanatermesis | [ ] new item |
| 21:13.07 | jfbourdeau | cool I get it ( the Check List thing) cool |
| 21:13.15 | jfbourdeau | NOw testing the SOLVED plugin |
| 21:13.20 | Thanatermesis | then you can just click on it later to mark it done, there's also a few other options (black box) like in the post shown in the thread |
| 21:13.28 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> NOw testing the SOLVED plugin |
| 21:13.34 | Thanatermesis | we need to reconfigure / add the option in every category |
| 21:13.42 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 21:13.44 | Thanatermesis | to allow that |
| 21:13.58 | Thanatermesis | but i enabled it in your calendar post, jfbourdeau so you can test it |
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| 21:15.46 | jfbourdeau | <Solved works ! |
| 21:16.00 | jfbourdeau | we see the check box in front of the Topic Title |
| 21:16.25 | jfbourdeau | and within the thread we see WHICH reply solved the question / problem |
| 21:17.45 | Thanatermesis | nice :) |
| 21:17.47 | keyra | :) |
| 21:17.58 | Thanatermesis | likes the new categories, pretty intuitive to follow which topics interested in |
| 21:18.10 | Thanatermesis | shall we remove the Lounge category? i found it useless lol |
| 21:18.20 | Thanatermesis | let's have a social life if we want to lounge lol |
| 21:19.06 | jfbourdeau | I was about to ask you.... Hummm.... |
| 21:19.16 | jfbourdeau | Yea why not |
| 21:19.51 | Thanatermesis | when creating a new category, make sure that you enable the Solve plugin in Settings -> (bottom, last option) |
| 21:19.58 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 21:22.09 | jfbourdeau | What I like is when I click Category, we can type where we want to go fast there |
| 21:22.51 | jfbourdeau | ok something is weird |
| 21:23.08 | jfbourdeau | the discourse of Ubuntu budgie, the plugin works like this L |
| 21:23.24 | Thanatermesis | all categoires updated with the Solve option :) |
| 21:23.26 | keyra | :) |
| 21:23.35 | jfbourdeau | When we are in a TOPIC and we see severa replies, we can Click the SOLVE without having to click the ... to see it |
| 21:23.44 | jfbourdeau | yes I saw you did it when going ver myself |
| 21:24.10 | jfbourdeau | I will try with a new thread / Post |
| 21:24.31 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> When we are in a TOPIC and we see severa replies, we can Click the SOLVE without having to click the ... to see it |
| 21:24.39 | Thanatermesis | maybe the "more visual option" is only for the author of the post? |
| 21:24.54 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, do it from your test user |
| 21:25.02 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 21:28.01 | jfbourdeau | I was doing to many at the same time but is it normal asked me for the sudo password in the middlge of the apug process ? I rememver I need to reply Y at some point but for the password, I don't remember having to enter it |
| 21:28.13 | Thanatermesis | i see the "solve" option in every reply on the "implement: plugins " thread |
| 21:28.41 | Thanatermesis | yes it is normal, because there's more than one command in apug |
| 21:28.48 | jfbourdeau | ok so the owner of the thread see all the replies with it make sense |
| 21:28.49 | Thanatermesis | hum... this can be improved in fact... |
| 21:30.08 | jfbourdeau | no Y or sudo password would be good ? But other Ubuntu distros do ask for Sudo password for some high level kernel update.,..SO I don't know how to deal with it |
| 21:31.10 | jfbourdeau | What do you think of a Test Category to chat about anything but for user to practicing using the forum (Discourse) ? |
| 21:31.20 | jfbourdeau | I don't know for the name though |
| 21:32.38 | jfbourdeau | in the changelog, it will be time consuming, but leave traces of what you do when it is significant...Exemple the Calendar / Organizer app |
| 21:32.56 | jfbourdeau | mean asana and calendar |
| 21:35.59 | Thanatermesis | i nevern understood why ubuntu insist on updating hte kernel lol |
| 21:36.07 | Thanatermesis | this is always a risk to make your system unbootable |
| 21:36.10 | Thanatermesis | unbuntuable |
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| 21:36.35 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 21:36.38 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 21:38.30 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, can you try this? run "apug" to update this last package, then open a NEW (important) terminal and run again "apug", it should not give you any error |
| 21:38.41 | Thanatermesis | it does for me lol, but should be ok for users :) |
| 21:38.43 | keyra | :) |
| 21:39.11 | jfbourdeau | ok one sec |
| 21:40.15 | jfbourdeau | ok 1st apug with one Y done |
| 21:40.21 | jfbourdeau | doing the 2nd one in new terminal |
| 21:40.39 | jfbourdeau | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:40.40 | jfbourdeau | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) |
| 21:40.40 | jfbourdeau | E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ |
| 21:40.40 | jfbourdeau | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) |
| 21:40.40 | jfbourdeau | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? |
| 21:40.40 | jfbourdeau | ~ â¯â¯â¯ |
| 21:41.12 | Thanatermesis | i broke elive? :) |
| 21:41.17 | jfbourdeau | Vbox is cool with GUest Addtion...Can copy / paste from VM to here |
| 21:41.24 | jfbourdeau | LOL |
| 21:41.53 | jfbourdeau | I am going back to Windows 10 or Mac OS |
| 21:41.53 | Thanatermesis | oh wait, mmmh.. |
| 21:41.57 | jfbourdeau | Keyra I know I know |
| 21:42.04 | Thanatermesis | the thing is that is strange that asks you for password with apug |
| 21:42.09 | Thanatermesis | it should not |
| 21:42.19 | Thanatermesis | if is your first (isntalled) user |
| 21:42.32 | jfbourdeau | oops ! not sure it is my 1st install user |
| 21:42.39 | jfbourdeau | think it is a 2nd with root privilege |
| 21:42.44 | jfbourdeau | does it help LOL ? |
| 21:43.12 | jfbourdeau | yep ! |
| 21:43.14 | jfbourdeau | 2nd user |
| 21:43.18 | jfbourdeau | I just verified |
| 21:43.44 | jfbourdeau | may be my mistake / problem was usefull though LOL |
| 21:44.17 | Thanatermesis | fixing... |
| 21:44.24 | Thanatermesis | fortunately we test every change |
| 21:44.42 | Thanatermesis | is more probable things not works in a first shot THAN have them directly working |
| 21:44.50 | Thanatermesis | "always test changes" is a requeriment lol |
| 21:45.07 | Thanatermesis | 2<20jfbourdeau2> does it help LOL ? |
| 21:45.09 | Thanatermesis | yes it helps :) |
| 21:45.11 | keyra | :) |
| 21:45.14 | *** join/#elive ThanaRepo (ThanaRepo@gateway/service/github.com/x-xombuiwqvlkfbzlh) |
| 21:45.14 | *** part/#elive ThanaRepo (ThanaRepo@gateway/service/github.com/x-xombuiwqvlkfbzlh) |
| 21:45.21 | Thanatermesis | so: Elive always configures your first user with automated sudo for the apt tasks |
| 21:45.23 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 21:45.26 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 21:45.32 | Thanatermesis | if you was using your second one, is normal that asks for password |
| 21:45.40 | Thanatermesis | because first user is/should always be the "admin" of the system |
| 21:45.49 | jfbourdeau | it is ok |
| 21:46.05 | jfbourdeau | I myself forgot I was using a 2nd user in that VM |
| 21:47.34 | Thanatermesis | lol duh, and thanks of talking about htis... i just found a bug in the installer on which that thing i was saying was not set correctly :) |
| 21:47.36 | keyra | :) |
| 21:47.37 | Thanatermesis | updating installer... |
| 21:47.39 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 21:47.46 | jfbourdeau | if I want to change a username through the GUI, I can ? |
| 21:47.47 | keyra | thanks for reporting the issue, by knowing it we can solve the problem for you and for everybody else affected, please use the BTS for that: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 21:47.51 | Thanatermesis | 2<20jfbourdeau2> I myself forgot I was using a 2nd user in that VM |
| 21:47.58 | Thanatermesis | in elive, your terminal always tell you that ;) |
| 21:48.21 | Thanatermesis | if default user, prompt is >>>, if other user, the name is shown |
| 21:48.32 | Thanatermesis | yes, you have an "user manager" for elive in the menus |
| 21:48.56 | jfbourdeau | the one i used, allow to change password... may be there is another one... |
| 21:49.02 | jfbourdeau | will look |
| 21:49.03 | *** join/#elive ThanaRepo (ThanaRepo@gateway/service/github.com/x-pvloiuzlqnxgvxxc) |
| 21:49.03 | *** part/#elive ThanaRepo (ThanaRepo@gateway/service/github.com/x-pvloiuzlqnxgvxxc) |
| 21:49.45 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> if I want to change a username through the GUI, I can ? |
| 21:49.49 | Thanatermesis | change what? the name? you cannot |
| 21:50.04 | jfbourdeau | no we can delete, change pw though the GUI |
| 21:50.11 | jfbourdeau | ok now that I know |
| 21:57.54 | Thanatermesis | going to add header links... |
| 21:58.04 | Thanatermesis | yep |
| 22:00.51 | jfbourdeau | as for apug |
| 22:00.55 | jfbourdeau | fixed ? |
| 22:01.18 | jfbourdeau | ~ â¯â¯â¯ apug |
| 22:01.18 | jfbourdeau | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) |
| 22:01.18 | jfbourdeau | E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ |
| 22:01.18 | jfbourdeau | E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) |
| 22:01.18 | jfbourdeau | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? |
| 22:01.19 | jfbourdeau | ~ â¯â¯â¯ |
| 22:01.30 | jfbourdeau | from my main user |
| 22:01.41 | jfbourdeau | Cool for header links |
| 22:03.44 | jfbourdeau | logged as root and ran apug without problems |
| 22:03.52 | jfbourdeau | Y |
| 22:04.03 | jfbourdeau | oops wrong window LOL |
| 22:04.37 | Thanatermesis | mmh, you did "apug"? |
| 22:04.45 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> fixed ? |
| 22:04.46 | jfbourdeau | I think I know why |
| 22:04.47 | Thanatermesis | it should be with apug |
| 22:04.48 | jfbourdeau | lol |
| 22:05.03 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> logged as root and ran apug without problems |
| 22:05.17 | Thanatermesis | thats normal, apug uses sudo and root is never asked with sudo or never lacks permissions |
| 22:05.19 | jfbourdeau | by mistak I clicked autologin using the user congiruator for the 1st user |
| 22:05.41 | jfbourdeau | so if i start elive with autologin with the main user, may be apug do not like that |
| 22:05.53 | Thanatermesis | if you "apug", you should be able to apug without problems from any user |
| 22:06.29 | jfbourdeau | ok it asked for the pw but it is normal I think, as this user was setup to Autologin |
| 22:06.31 | Thanatermesis | you have an Elive feature to switch between users actively in graphical sessions (not losing desktop / ending sesion) |
| 22:06.32 | jfbourdeau | will test |
| 22:06.52 | Thanatermesis | yep, i fixed a bug in the installer where it should have not asked for password for hte first user |
| 22:06.55 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 22:06.58 | Thanatermesis | so you must install 2.9.99 for that fix :) |
| 22:07.00 | keyra | :) |
| 22:07.05 | Thanatermesis | when will exist... |
| 22:07.09 | Thanatermesis | im not going to publish it |
| 22:07.16 | Thanatermesis | later im forced to publish 3.0 |
| 22:07.26 | jfbourdeau | Can I remove the Autologin to the 1st user from the GUI ? |
| 22:07.30 | Thanatermesis | so better to make sure that 2.9.99 is the LAST version WITHOUT more modifications |
| 22:07.37 | jfbourdeau | agree |
| 22:07.41 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, yes, use the same user-manager tool |
| 22:07.44 | jfbourdeau | 3.0 is out LOL wow |
| 22:07.46 | keyra | woooha! |
| 22:10.55 | Thanatermesis | only remaining the forum and the website for that :) |
| 22:11.09 | jfbourdeau | :-) |
| 22:11.28 | jfbourdeau | I don't care but I don't see through the GUI how to remove autologin LOL don't bother |
| 22:11.37 | jfbourdeau | I will install clean again with your next release |
| 22:11.50 | jfbourdeau | in my VM ;-) |
| 22:15.24 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> I don't care but I don't see through the GUI how to remove autologin LOL don't bother |
| 22:15.44 | Thanatermesis | dont remember, i think that when you add a new user it asks if autologin |
| 22:15.48 | Thanatermesis | so yeah, not really that option |
| 22:15.54 | Thanatermesis | can you report the bug in the BTS? :) |
| 22:15.56 | keyra | :) |
| 22:15.59 | Thanatermesis | otherwise i will not remember to improve it |
| 22:16.00 | keyra | BTS Bug Tracking System http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 22:20.36 | jfbourdeau | done |
| 22:26.00 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 22:26.02 | keyra | :) |
| 22:46.12 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, header icons/links created |
| 22:47.35 | jfbourdeau | ok I am back |
| 22:47.40 | jfbourdeau | checking that |
| 22:48.31 | jfbourdeau | WOW |
| 22:48.34 | keyra | woooha! |
| 22:48.42 | jfbourdeau | yes Keyra WOW |
| 22:49.38 | Thanatermesis | maybe too much, mmh... what about remove the one of the Elive webiste? (i found it useless?) |
| 22:49.59 | jfbourdeau | ? one sec... didn't saw that one |
| 22:50.30 | jfbourdeau | do you mean the donation one called support ? |
| 22:51.25 | jfbourdeau | oops |
| 22:51.29 | Thanatermesis | no, the rocket |
| 22:51.32 | jfbourdeau | I just did a refresh LOL |
| 22:51.42 | jfbourdeau | did saw all of them I was too fast |
| 22:51.45 | jfbourdeau | one sec |
| 22:52.39 | *** join/#elive EliveWeb_63897 (add13c26@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.173.209.60.38) |
| 22:52.44 | keyra | welcome EliveWeb_63897! If you have any problem with Elive just talk to Thanatermesi if is here or report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org to better assist and having you notified about it easier. |
| 22:52.52 | jfbourdeau | that's me testing WebChat |
| 22:52.59 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 22:53.01 | keyra | :) |
| 22:54.07 | jfbourdeau | https://forum.elivelinux.org/tips lead to : Oops! That page doesnât exist or is private. |
| 22:55.09 | jfbourdeau | the shortcu for BTS generate a YO have no permissioon to access this area |
| 22:55.12 | keyra | BTS Bug Tracking System http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 22:55.22 | jfbourdeau | people can click the Elive logo after to fix that |
| 22:55.33 | Thanatermesis | yeah, tips not exists yet |
| 22:55.36 | Thanatermesis | forum tips |
| 22:55.43 | jfbourdeau | but.... I don't like ending up on a BUG report system with an errror message |
| 22:55.54 | Thanatermesis | but maybe useless since we have Howtos? mmmh... |
| 22:56.28 | Thanatermesis | LOL |
| 22:56.37 | jfbourdeau | As for BTS, I know we can't write long name under header's icons but BTS is not untuitive...Ma i too picky LOL ? |
| 22:56.44 | Thanatermesis | i dont have this error jfbourdeau |
| 22:56.48 | Thanatermesis | it works here |
| 22:56.49 | jfbourdeau | ok one sec |
| 22:56.57 | jfbourdeau | because your are logged ? |
| 22:57.07 | Thanatermesis | yeah BTS is not intuitive |
| 22:57.23 | jfbourdeau | right incognito window no bug |
| 22:57.31 | jfbourdeau | not BTS is great |
| 22:57.55 | Thanatermesis | it doesnt make much sense that error, the link is to the main BTS site without any argument or anything |
| 22:57.56 | jfbourdeau | I mean the BTS Icon / menu at top of forum... People will have to lick to know what is that icon or what is BTS |
| 22:58.07 | keyra | thanks for reporting the issue, by knowing it we can solve the problem for you and for everybody else affected, please use the BTS for that: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 22:58.11 | Thanatermesis | yeah |
| 22:58.27 | jfbourdeau | as for the error, now trying on diffent browser |
| 22:58.29 | Thanatermesis | ok, what more? |
| 22:58.53 | Thanatermesis | What about removing the FAQ too, since its for the elive website faq and we have the FAQ link in the Elive website itself |
| 22:58.56 | keyra | check out http://www.elivecd.org/faq and http://forum.elivecd.org too |
| 22:59.20 | jfbourdeau | ok the error happen when the user is alreadyu log in to bts |
| 22:59.28 | jfbourdeau | a new user who click on that won't have the error |
| 22:59.36 | Thanatermesis | sounds good |
| 22:59.55 | jfbourdeau | and a user logged to BTS and have the error, is not an idiot, he will click somewhere else once it ( Logo etc) |
| 23:00.11 | Thanatermesis | exactly :) |
| 23:00.14 | keyra | :) |
| 23:00.25 | jfbourdeau | as for BTS name or logo, do you agree ? Or we don't care, they will click them all LOL ? |
| 23:00.28 | keyra | BTS Bug Tracking System http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 23:00.39 | Thanatermesis | yep, fixed for BTS |
| 23:00.58 | Thanatermesis | let's know what to do for these ones: FAQ, Elive website, Tips |
| 23:01.05 | Thanatermesis | rmeove faq? remove Elive website? |
| 23:01.29 | jfbourdeau | yes remove FAQ : TIPS |
| 23:01.36 | jfbourdeau | as for Elive hummmmmm |
| 23:01.44 | Thanatermesis | tips: it should point to the Howtos section? but then we should have a Howtos for the forum separated from the Howtos for Elive? (makes more sense) |
| 23:01.59 | jfbourdeau | agree |
| 23:02.11 | jfbourdeau | you mean tutorial from User corner ?? |
| 23:02.24 | jfbourdeau | as for BTS fixed, what did you fixed exactly ? |
| 23:02.27 | keyra | BTS Bug Tracking System http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 23:02.28 | jfbourdeau | it is the same |
| 23:02.31 | Thanatermesis | yes.... maybe we should move it from a Main category instead of a user corner |
| 23:02.41 | Thanatermesis | to * a main category |
| 23:02.56 | jfbourdeau | SOLDE ( Agree) |
| 23:03.05 | jfbourdeau | wi no sub section for now ? |
| 23:03.06 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> as for BTS fixed, what did you fixed exactly ? |
| 23:03.09 | keyra | BTS Bug Tracking System http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 23:03.25 | Thanatermesis | nothing yet, this configuration is a PITA, im configuring it in a temporal editor to paste later the contents |
| 23:03.36 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 23:03.38 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> wi no sub section for now ? |
| 23:03.52 | Thanatermesis | well.. which sections we should have? howtos for the forum website, and howtos for the Elive system |
| 23:03.53 | jfbourdeau | So tuutorial under Other languages ? |
| 23:03.54 | Thanatermesis | anything else? |
| 23:04.06 | Thanatermesis | i think that is OK for now with these two... |
| 23:04.13 | Thanatermesis | name for the main category? howtos? |
| 23:04.31 | Thanatermesis | yeah... howtos -> 1 Elive | 2 forum |
| 23:04.50 | jfbourdeau | 1st I don't like how you write it LOL |
| 23:04.58 | Thanatermesis | nah, other languages will not have any other section, only their language (franch and spansh for now) |
| 23:05.04 | jfbourdeau | How-To ? HowTos ? How do we write it |
| 23:06.00 | jfbourdeau | ok 1 Elive 2 forum |
| 23:06.23 | jfbourdeau | I meant we position how to after languages ? |
| 23:06.31 | Thanatermesis | in a fast google search, most of websites writes "howto" | "howtos", even in wikipedia references |
| 23:06.38 | jfbourdeau | ok good |
| 23:06.47 | jfbourdeau | So Howtos the Main ? |
| 23:06.51 | Thanatermesis | It is common practice to write the phrase as "HOWTO" in the open-source community.[1] This is consistent with the traditional naming scheme for technical documentation, such as FAQ and README. Another possible reason is that this makes it easier to find a how-to in search engines like Google as searching with the words "to" and "how" does not necessarily deliver relevant search results.[2] |
| 23:06.52 | Thanatermesis | heh |
| 23:06.56 | Thanatermesis | (from wikipedia) |
| 23:07.03 | Thanatermesis | yeah howtos is pretty standard |
| 23:09.08 | Thanatermesis | done - new menus |
| 23:09.36 | jfbourdeau | shit I was doing them too LOL |
| 23:09.54 | jfbourdeau | ha ok |
| 23:09.57 | jfbourdeau | headers menu ! |
| 23:10.01 | Thanatermesis | yup |
| 23:10.04 | jfbourdeau | COol now BTS is ok :-) |
| 23:10.07 | keyra | BTS Bug Tracking System http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 23:10.23 | jfbourdeau | perfect ! |
| 23:12.02 | jfbourdeau | forums done |
| 23:12.39 | Thanatermesis | good :) |
| 23:12.41 | keyra | :) |
| 23:12.45 | Thanatermesis | let me see if i can improve a bit more these icons... |
| 23:12.47 | jfbourdeau | I leave the description to you LOL |
| 23:12.53 | jfbourdeau | yea LOL |
| 23:13.12 | jfbourdeau | I didn't to be a pain ... in th... about the icons |
| 23:13.42 | jfbourdeau | BTS a BUG B U G logo ? LOL |
| 23:14.06 | jfbourdeau | Tips a T I P S logo ? or icon that mean tips |
| 23:15.04 | jfbourdeau | And make tips go to How to in the forums ? (later if you want it to go on the web site you'll be able to change it) |
| 23:15.36 | jfbourdeau | as for battery icons I was almost about to Unplug my iphone as it was fully charged |
| 23:17.21 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> Tips a T I P S logo ? or icon that mean tips |
| 23:17.29 | Thanatermesis | https://fontawesome.bootstrapcheatsheets.com |
| 23:17.31 | Thanatermesis | only these available |
| 23:17.38 | Thanatermesis | for tips: maybe "trophy" ? |
| 23:17.51 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> BTS a BUG B U G logo ? LOL |
| 23:17.53 | Thanatermesis | it is a doctor :) |
| 23:17.54 | keyra | BTS Bug Tracking System http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 23:17.55 | keyra | :) |
| 23:17.56 | jfbourdeau | Support, better description when we " mouse over" ? And the link where Support goes, (May be $ icon ?) may be your banner about becoming patreon should also go to : http://www.elivecd.org/donate/ |
| 23:18.00 | Thanatermesis | doctor = repair not working things |
| 23:18.06 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 23:18.34 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> as for battery icons I was almost about to Unplug my iphone as it was fully charged |
| 23:18.35 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 23:18.46 | jfbourdeau | I'll take a bottle of wine and after till take a look again at the icon to see if i recognize a Doctor |
| 23:19.07 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, i tried 20 different selected icons for the support, this one looked the most engaging one (it makes Elive GROW) |
| 23:19.28 | jfbourdeau | ok :) |
| 23:19.38 | jfbourdeau | make the banner link point to that http://www.elivecd.org/donate/ |
| 23:20.01 | Thanatermesis | you dont saw the doctor? mmh.. type "stetho" in the searchbox of the icons list |
| 23:20.10 | jfbourdeau | the banner that they can make dissapear is more visible than the icone and I would make it point to this also http://www.elivecd.org/donate/ |
| 23:20.13 | Thanatermesis | tell me if is more intuitive than the doctor |
| 23:20.43 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> make the banner link point to that http://www.elivecd.org/donate/ |
| 23:20.50 | Thanatermesis | nope, its a different thing, patreon and donations |
| 23:21.08 | Thanatermesis | lets see if the patrons grows trying to reference more to it than the (common) donations |
| 23:21.12 | jfbourdeau | i know my point is that I think they will miss the Donation icon at the top |
| 23:21.21 | jfbourdeau | and not the banner as it is more visible but I don't care |
| 23:21.46 | jfbourdeau | ok for stetho where do you want me to type that LOL |
| 23:21.52 | jfbourdeau | to see the doctor |
| 23:21.57 | jfbourdeau | or whatever it is |
| 23:21.57 | Thanatermesis | well, the icons in the top: they will investigate over time since they will be always here, the banner is dismissed and forget forever (probably nobody would read it lol) |
| 23:22.06 | Thanatermesis | but anyways, let's try statistically |
| 23:22.10 | Thanatermesis | see* |
| 23:22.16 | jfbourdeau | I know you were going to say that |
| 23:22.23 | jfbourdeau | stetho ? |
| 23:22.28 | jfbourdeau | google one sec |
| 23:22.41 | jfbourdeau | HA LOL ok |
| 23:22.59 | jfbourdeau | Yes |
| 23:23.01 | jfbourdeau | I prefer stetho |
| 23:23.12 | jfbourdeau | stethoscope |
| 23:23.19 | jfbourdeau | same word in french |
| 23:23.25 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 23:23.36 | Thanatermesis | yeah from here, icons list: https://fontawesome.bootstrapcheatsheets.com |
| 23:23.46 | jfbourdeau | but Quebec people we don't go see doctor and are not use to stethoscope we drink wine and beer to fix problems |
| 23:23.59 | jfbourdeau | now that it is legal, Quebec, we will smoke instead of go see doctor |
| 23:24.06 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 23:24.32 | Thanatermesis | which icon for tips? |
| 23:25.22 | Thanatermesis | support -> Keep this project alive with a donation |
| 23:25.23 | jfbourdeau | ... |
| 23:25.27 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... too large, not engaging |
| 23:25.55 | Thanatermesis | sponsorize Elive ? |
| 23:25.59 | jfbourdeau | Support / donation ? |
| 23:26.02 | Thanatermesis | yes, same |
| 23:26.30 | jfbourdeau | I mean display Support / donation when mouse over ? |
| 23:26.39 | keyra | mouse? what a stupid name... these devices should have been called something like.. posixy, as a positionator of coordinates X and Y, boicot human stupidity! bots will rule the world! |
| 23:26.50 | Thanatermesis | mmh... its short, but maybe not enough engagning |
| 23:27.04 | Thanatermesis | the banner has a more clear message "this COST x, we need you to help" |
| 23:27.08 | jfbourdeau | tips light bulb ? |
| 23:27.14 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 23:28.14 | jfbourdeau | from my test user I made the donation banner dissapear |
| 23:28.35 | jfbourdeau | and you are right, with time, engaged user, will defenitavly see icons at the top and try them |
| 23:30.17 | Thanatermesis | even if people dont donate with the banner, is good because its sends the message, "this website is entirely free but it has a cost, that is needed to be covered" |
| 23:30.29 | jfbourdeau | :-) |
| 23:30.45 | jfbourdeau | It's not the banner I don't like |
| 23:31.02 | jfbourdeau | it's the fact that it point to the Unclear Patreon site LOL I prefer your Donation page with all the option |
| 23:31.10 | jfbourdeau | but " I realy don't care " |
| 23:31.18 | jfbourdeau | I do like and think the banner is a must for donation.... |
| 23:31.33 | jfbourdeau | the url it lead, I don't like it but don't worry |
| 23:31.33 | Thanatermesis | well, the thing is that is much better if Elive had patrons than donations |
| 23:31.37 | Thanatermesis | donations are only one time |
| 23:31.44 | Thanatermesis | patrons are people that supports monthly a project |
| 23:31.47 | jfbourdeau | good point ! |
| 23:32.00 | Thanatermesis | if X number if reached, the project becomes somewhat sustainable |
| 23:32.14 | Thanatermesis | otherwise, EVERY month is needed to find / catch the ones that wants to donate |
| 23:32.21 | jfbourdeau | agree |
| 23:32.44 | Thanatermesis | so i would like to try to promote more the patreon way |
| 23:32.50 | jfbourdeau | agree |
| 23:32.54 | Thanatermesis | maybe i should use patreon instead of the donations page in the forum? |
| 23:33.12 | jfbourdeau | the spanish thing I sent you is about residual income / recurrent I am 1000 % sold to Residual income |
| 23:33.49 | jfbourdeau | you offer me 40k / year residual vs 300k / year under stress to m ay be fired in 2 years, I take the 40 k |
| 23:33.50 | Thanatermesis | will try for a time to only patreon on the site |
| 23:34.15 | jfbourdeau | I would keep both |
| 23:34.18 | jfbourdeau | on the forum |
| 23:34.20 | jfbourdeau | you ? |
| 23:34.44 | jfbourdeau | both are there... They will stumble on both and may be donate LOL |
| 23:34.49 | Thanatermesis | it can be changed, but i will use the patreon link (only) for a time just to see if we can get some sustainable donations |
| 23:34.51 | jfbourdeau | I would finaly leave it like it is |
| 23:34.52 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 23:35.00 | jfbourdeau | LOL |
| 23:35.12 | Thanatermesis | also, there will be always the common /donate page in the default Elive website, for anything/everybody else |
| 23:35.58 | Thanatermesis | removes again all the manually-entered configurations for the menus... this plugin is no UX at all! |
| 23:39.02 | jfbourdeau | tips url need to be https://forum.elivelinux.org/c/howtos |
| 23:39.47 | jfbourdeau | I love the icons and description now LOL |
| 23:42.33 | jfbourdeau | The forum as it is will be ok for now... A lot better that most forum I saw.... You'll be able to focus on 3.0 Elive and Your new webste after today |
| 23:43.57 | Thanatermesis | heh |
| 23:44.04 | Thanatermesis | i added a FAKE icon configuration |
| 23:44.07 | Thanatermesis | just to make a visual separation |
| 23:44.24 | Thanatermesis | to not confuse with other (forum) icons , like the next one which is the search-in-the-forum |
| 23:44.25 | jfbourdeau | yes I see |
| 23:44.27 | jfbourdeau | good idea |
| 23:45.05 | jfbourdeau | donation make it arrive at least on your description ? https://www.patreon.com/elive/overview |
| 23:45.28 | jfbourdeau | You'll be able to write somwhere later that it is " monthly donation " for those not used to Patreon |
| 23:45.37 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> tips url need to be https://forum.elivelinux.org/c/howtos |
| 23:45.42 | Thanatermesis | oh, i missed the /c part |
| 23:45.48 | jfbourdeau | yep |
| 23:45.49 | Thanatermesis | damn... need to delete again all the entries |
| 23:45.53 | jfbourdeau | !!!!! |
| 23:45.53 | Thanatermesis | this plugin is crap fo modify it |
| 23:45.57 | jfbourdeau | :-) |
| 23:46.02 | jfbourdeau | and patreon |
| 23:46.06 | jfbourdeau | https://www.patreon.com/elive/overview |
| 23:46.18 | Thanatermesis | in the future, if we want to change any of the entries we need to rewrite them else where and then paste every one tehre |
| 23:46.42 | Thanatermesis | ok :) |
| 23:46.44 | keyra | :) |
| 23:46.46 | jfbourdeau | BTW you can hide money you're getting from your Patrons in the Patreaon config |
| 23:46.51 | Thanatermesis | i assume that is good for the others then |
| 23:46.53 | Thanatermesis | final version * |
| 23:47.03 | Thanatermesis | 2<20jfbourdeau2> BTW you can hide money you're getting from your Patrons in the Patreaon config |
| 23:47.13 | Thanatermesis | i think that transparency is better, specially in open source world :) |
| 23:48.17 | jfbourdeau | agree |
| 23:48.55 | Thanatermesis | i was going to install another plugin to add static pages only for the Tips link to work, but is really not needed now as it is an own forum section :)) |
| 23:49.15 | jfbourdeau | yep |
| 23:49.26 | jfbourdeau | KISS Keep it simple stupid |
| 23:50.50 | Thanatermesis | done, final version up |
| 23:51.24 | jfbourdeau | Good job LOL |
| 23:51.31 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... |
| 23:51.43 | jfbourdeau | one sec |
| 23:51.49 | jfbourdeau | not sure |
| 23:51.50 | jfbourdeau | for tips |
| 23:51.52 | jfbourdeau | one sec |
| 23:52.11 | Thanatermesis | let's say we need to have a document that describes the guidelines that something needs to pass to be in Elive (like, talking of applications, must not eat much resources, quality, etc etc) |
| 23:52.15 | Thanatermesis | where this document will go? |
| 23:52.17 | jfbourdeau | no |
| 23:52.19 | jfbourdeau | https://forum.elivelinux.org/c/howtos |
| 23:52.25 | jfbourdeau | looks better |
| 23:52.30 | Thanatermesis | no :), tips is tips for this website, so that forum is ok |
| 23:52.36 | jfbourdeau | we see Elive and Forum |
| 23:52.43 | Thanatermesis | Howtos is a more generic thing, tips is not part of Elive tutorials (elive hwotos) |
| 23:53.06 | Thanatermesis | otherwise, this link is useless, i mean we have already the category showing up, not needed of an icon |
| 23:53.37 | Thanatermesis | the tips icon is meant to be "how to drag images in the forum in a fast way", or "use ctrl + enter" to answer/post messages, instead to search for the submit button |
| 23:53.49 | jfbourdeau | ok agree |
| 23:54.01 | Thanatermesis | in fact... these howtos are a bit longer than just tips, hum |
| 23:54.19 | Thanatermesis | assumes that the forum howtos will be simple and short |
| 23:55.25 | jfbourdeau | in your patreon text you describe well Elive but not Patreaon... I would may be ad ( as you did on the forum) the youtube that explain What is Patreaon / patrons and May 2 o3 3 words that it is montlhy ? |
| 23:55.27 | Thanatermesis | what about a subcategory like: howtos -> guidelines ? (for the thing said before, about which rules/quality-control needs an application to be included in elive) |
| 23:55.28 | jfbourdeau | https://www.patreon.com/elive/overview |
| 23:55.42 | jfbourdeau | one sec I think |
| 23:56.30 | jfbourdeau | 1) we need guideline 2) Where ? Still thinking... |
| 23:56.35 | Thanatermesis | the patreon description can be much improved, also which an explanation that this project only survives by donations bla bla |
| 23:56.46 | Thanatermesis | but thats a longer task heh |
| 23:57.54 | jfbourdeau | Can we create that guideline text and put it whatevere where but put it in the banner ? Like this : |
| 23:58.05 | Thanatermesis | guidelines -> maybe in "get involved -> suggestions" as a pinned special post? |
| 23:58.09 | jfbourdeau | https://forum.syncthing.net/ |
| 23:58.17 | jfbourdeau | see what they did at the top |
| 23:58.26 | Thanatermesis | yes we can do any banner from any post |
| 23:58.27 | jfbourdeau | Please look through the FAQ before posting a support question. |
| 23:58.45 | jfbourdeau | https://forum.syncthing.net/ |
| 23:58.52 | jfbourdeau | so something they can't miss at the top |
| 23:59.10 | jfbourdeau | but their's can't be clicked away or closed |
| 23:59.16 | jfbourdeau | it's always there |
| 23:59.19 | Thanatermesis | on such case, we could create that post in websites -> forum, as a pinned one, and set it to be a banner |
| 23:59.40 | Thanatermesis | 2<20jfbourdeau2> but their's can't be clicked away or closed |
| 23:59.42 | Thanatermesis | thats bad lol |
| 23:59.45 | Thanatermesis | always annoying around |
| 23:59.48 | Thanatermesis | even if readed |