| 00:01.37 | Elmo40 | problem with a physical 2mm height like that is when you have a 72DPI screen, that 2mm D will look like O... too fuzzy |
| 00:02.17 | ThanaSick | exactly |
| 00:02.24 | ThanaSick | that is the standard, the correct value for human eyes |
| 00:03.35 | ThanaSick | Elmo40, well, not really, should be still readable (in any case user can configure later, but i want to put the default to be -right-) |
| 00:03.47 | ThanaSick | so turning back to the topic |
| 00:04.00 | ThanaSick | im seeing that is not possible to configure these fonts in px values |
| 00:04.07 | ThanaSick | for screens different than 96px |
| 00:04.19 | ThanaSick | seems like GTK does ugly voohdooh tricks around |
| 00:04.28 | ThanaSick | thats why i remember now that i used these 100, 80 values |
| 00:04.51 | ThanaSick | problem is that with the calculation that i used, it returns 60 when it should have been 80 |
| 00:04.56 | ThanaSick | that's the only problem ^ |
| 00:05.01 | ThanaSick | i need to get 80 from 157 |
| 00:09.51 | ThanaSick | Elmo40, that curve seems to have some sense, can we get ALL the values from 76 to 300 ? |
| 00:09.59 | ThanaSick | i could put them statically lol |
| 00:14.05 | ThanaSick | <Elmo40> http://oi66.tinypic.com/726sgj.jpg |
| 00:14.09 | ThanaSick | how you made that? |
| 00:17.14 | Elmo40 | ok |
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| 00:22.04 | ThanaSick | yes |
| 00:22.05 | ThanaSick | any info |
| 00:22.14 | ThanaSick | but we need to calculate it based on the dpi |
| 00:22.31 | ThanaSick | there's another configuration too (scaling factor) which also uses the dpi, and it works perfectly |
| 00:22.42 | ThanaSick | its just these crappy gtk apps, seems like they does a curve |
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| 00:25.28 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_57! =) |
| 00:25.30 | ThanaSick | o/ Elive_user_en_57 |
| 00:25.32 | keyra | hi! |
| 00:25.34 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org |
| 00:25.42 | Elive_user_en_57 | JF here |
| 00:25.44 | ThanaSick | :) |
| 00:25.46 | keyra | :) |
| 00:27.08 | Elive_user_en_57 | I a now in 1920 X 1080 waiting for your instruction |
| 00:27.19 | ThanaSick | Start the desktop in english and hit âalt + escâ, type âscaleâ and show me the default configuration |
| 00:27.19 | ThanaSick | Measure the letter D from the thunar file-manager, it should be exactly 1.9 or 2.0 mm |
| 00:27.19 | ThanaSick | the result of the command: xdpyinfo | grep inch |
| 00:28.08 | Elive_user_en_57 | ALT + EXCAPE bring the application thing on the screen |
| 00:28.22 | Elive_user_en_57 | if I type scale, as scale is not an app, it doesnt work |
| 00:28.54 | Elive_user_en_57 | â¯â¯â¯ xdpyinfo | grep inch |
| 00:28.55 | Elive_user_en_57 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.55 | Elive_user_en_57 | ~ â¯â¯â¯ |
| 00:29.12 | Elive_user_en_57 | from the command line |
| 00:29.31 | ThanaSick | yes it runs the launcher |
| 00:29.35 | ThanaSick | you have hte desktop in english? |
| 00:29.40 | Elive_user_en_57 | yes |
| 00:29.41 | Elive_user_en_57 | â¯â¯â¯ xdpyinfo | grep inch |
| 00:29.41 | Elive_user_en_57 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.48 | Elive_user_en_57 | if I type that from the Terminal |
| 00:29.52 | Elive_user_en_57 | is it what you want ^ |
| 00:29.56 | Elive_user_en_57 | yes |
| 00:29.58 | ThanaSick | are you using nvidia? |
| 00:29.58 | Elive_user_en_57 | english |
| 00:30.09 | Elive_user_en_57 | no idea |
| 00:30.17 | ThanaSick | well, we cannot do tests with your machine :) |
| 00:30.20 | Elive_user_en_57 | dont remember which video card I have |
| 00:30.24 | ThanaSick | you have 96dpi, which is the common screens |
| 00:30.33 | ThanaSick | i readed that was 102 but aparently not |
| 00:30.39 | ThanaSick | lspci | grep VGA |
| 00:30.42 | Elive_user_en_57 | will that number change if I change the resolution ? |
| 00:30.50 | ThanaSick | nope |
| 00:31.02 | ThanaSick | thats the phisical space that the pixels exist |
| 00:31.09 | ThanaSick | size of pixels, in a phisical form |
| 00:31.16 | Elive_user_en_57 | ok |
| 00:31.29 | Elive_user_en_57 | I can reboot now ? I can't help you ? |
| 00:31.48 | ThanaSick | not much possible to do with this screen, but mmmh... |
| 00:31.53 | ThanaSick | did you said tha tthe fonts looks small? |
| 00:31.59 | ThanaSick | here now too? |
| 00:32.02 | Elive_user_en_57 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.02 | Elive_user_en_57 | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) |
| 00:32.17 | ThanaSick | oh wait, there's fonts for GTK and fonts for some Enlightnement parts |
| 00:32.21 | ThanaSick | the important ones are the gtk ones |
| 00:32.23 | ThanaSick | like: thunar |
| 00:32.37 | Elive_user_en_57 | Thunar looks ok |
| 00:32.46 | ThanaSick | so there's no problem of fonts :) |
| 00:32.48 | keyra | :) |
| 00:32.56 | ThanaSick | except for my laptop which should be a bit bigger, hum... |
| 00:32.56 | keyra | thanks for reporting the issue, by knowing it we can solve the problem for you and for everybody else affected, please use the BTS for that: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 00:33.41 | Elive_user_en_57 | when I install, during the installation some fonts are too small... Tomorrow I will make some screenShot |
| 00:33.47 | keyra | open the menu of applications and select Take Screenshot, then click in Share to upload your screenshot |
| 00:33.54 | keyra | use the "impr sys" key of your keyboard to take a screenshot, you can also share it with the obtained web link! |
| 00:34.26 | ThanaSick | ok |
| 00:34.36 | ThanaSick | but a screenshot -may- be not helpful, because of the dpi |
| 00:34.42 | ThanaSick | so it can looks big in my screen or small in yours :) |
| 00:34.47 | ThanaSick | you need to measure them |
| 00:34.47 | Elive_user_en_57 | good night. talk to you tomorrow. tks for your patience |
| 00:34.50 | keyra | good night to you too! |
| 00:50.47 | ThanaSick | ok, i found the cause of the curvature |
| 01:02.14 | ThanaSick | perfect, bug fixed |
| 01:02.18 | ThanaSick | forget maths Elive_user_es_38 |
| 01:02.27 | ThanaSick | i mean Elmo40 |
| 01:10.20 | ThanaSick | brb |
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| 01:24.48 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 01:24.51 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 04:08.43 | Elmo40 | font_size_auto = (-.3278) * dpi + 131.46 |
| 04:08.51 | Elmo40 | solution |
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| 10:34.03 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_fr_29! =) I hope you are enjoying the system! |
| 10:34.09 | keyra | You can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :) |
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| 11:36.14 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user! =) |
| 11:36.20 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org |
| 11:36.59 | Elive_user | newcomer |
| 11:37.25 | Elive_user | first time |
| 11:49.07 | Elmo40 | ... and gone |
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| 12:06.42 | grottem | !memo Thanatermesis in the gui when pasting one dir over an other you have the skip replace and replace all but not a skip all option. This is very user unfriendly because when the dir has 100+ file the user has to click skip 100+ time instead of 1 time skip all this feature should be ease and is very urgent neeeded this means before 3.0! |
| 12:06.42 | keyra | Ok, I'll notify Thanatermesis when I see him/her around! |
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| 12:30.14 | keyra | Thanatermesis, memo for you: <grottem/#elive/2018-07-27 14:06> in the gui when pasting one dir over an other you have the skip replace and replace all but not a skip all option. This is very user unfriendly because when the dir has 100+ file the user has to click skip 100+ time instead of 1 time skip all this feature should be ease and is very urgent neeeded this means before 3.0! |
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| 12:31.23 | Thanatermesis | grottem, you mean in thunar when copying bulk files? yeah i think that i have see that... |
| 12:31.39 | Thanatermesis | but this is a feature of thunar, im pretty sure that new versions of thunar would have that fixed, they should at least! |
| 12:31.45 | grottem | ok |
| 12:32.14 | Thanatermesis | but there's no way to fix that, not easy unless changing the source code of thunar but this is long work and dangerous :) i preffer to wait for next update * |
| 12:32.18 | keyra | have you already checked the Elive group in github? |
| 12:33.56 | grottem | i did cli way |
| 12:34.06 | grottem | mv -iv source target |
| 12:34.20 | Thanatermesis | yeah, cli is always better :) |
| 12:34.23 | keyra | :) |
| 12:34.28 | Thanatermesis | i almost never do these things out of cli |
| 12:35.09 | grottem | yeah i know but i was unsure about the right |
| 12:35.11 | grottem | command |
| 12:35.22 | grottem | it was important and work related |
| 12:35.23 | grottem | so... |
| 12:35.38 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 12:35.43 | Thanatermesis | well, you have the "bkp" command |
| 12:35.46 | Thanatermesis | it is very useful |
| 12:35.51 | Thanatermesis | always keeping backups |
| 12:36.09 | Thanatermesis | mv -i asks for repeated things |
| 12:36.20 | Thanatermesis | -n = do not overwrite (i think?), see man mv |
| 12:36.26 | Thanatermesis | -f = overwrite |
| 12:48.52 | Thanatermesis | grottem, how does the "AC" vs "on battery" cpufreq gadget behaves to you ? |
| 12:49.07 | Thanatermesis | i think that is not so correctly working... i must set it to "full power" instead |
| 12:58.49 | grottem | don't see a difference |
| 12:58.51 | grottem | btw Thanatermesis |
| 12:59.05 | Thanatermesis | ok seems like it not works -always- |
| 12:59.08 | grottem | i want to use sl but i think this correct to ls |
| 13:01.46 | Thanatermesis | yes seems like |
| 13:01.49 | Thanatermesis | what is "sl"? |
| 13:16.09 | Thanatermesis | ~ â¯â¯â¯ alias | grep sl |
| 13:16.10 | Thanatermesis | sl=ls |
| 13:16.18 | Thanatermesis | ok seems like i can deal with the battery stuff in a different way... |
| 13:23.16 | Thanatermesis | thinks that adding always more features we will never have 3.0 |
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| 13:54.48 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 13:54.51 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 14:03.59 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 14:13.29 | Thanatermesis | !memo grottem api laptop-mode-tools (if laptop) |
| 14:13.30 | keyra | Ok, I'll notify grottem when I see him/her around! |
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| 14:16.44 | keyra | grottem, memo for you: <Thanatermesis/#elive/2018-07-27 16:13> api laptop-mode-tools (if laptop) |
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| 14:16.58 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 14:17.01 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
| 14:18.39 | grottem | Thanatermesis, i'm installing laptop-mode-tools |
| 14:19.00 | Thanatermesis | that will give you some improvements in Elive for laptops |
| 14:19.14 | Thanatermesis | i have patched it to use the correct cpufreq values for when ac/battery mode |
| 14:19.25 | grottem | ok |
| 14:19.38 | grottem | after api do i need to do something else? |
| 14:19.47 | Thanatermesis | im going to research all the other (ton) configurations in /etc/laptop-mode settings to see which things we need to use or avoid for Elive |
| 14:19.54 | Thanatermesis | nope, it directly works |
| 14:20.09 | Thanatermesis | try the plug/unplug the current cable and you will see that the cpufreq gadget will change now |
| 14:26.30 | grottem | it shows 2 |
| 14:26.33 | grottem | unplug |
| 14:26.35 | grottem | 800 |
| 14:26.40 | grottem | for second |
| 14:26.47 | grottem | then shows 2 again |
| 14:28.05 | Thanatermesis | hu? |
| 14:28.08 | Thanatermesis | didnt understood |
| 14:28.27 | Thanatermesis | i assume that is 800 Mhz vs 2 GHz, grottem ? |
| 14:28.42 | Thanatermesis | the thing is that you can see it scroll "max" and "min" when plug/unplug |
| 14:28.50 | Thanatermesis | saving your battery when no AC is used |
| 14:29.04 | Thanatermesis | "be able to use the laptop more time when disconnected" featur elol |
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| 16:17.35 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 16:17.38 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
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| 16:31.56 | Thanatermesis | !memo Elmo40 solved dpi stuff, btw dont use memoserv, use !memo Thanatermesis something |
| 16:31.56 | keyra | Ok, I'll notify Elmo40 when I see him/her around! |
| 16:35.18 | grottem | !memo Thanatermesis i thinkso |
| 16:35.18 | keyra | Ok, I'll notify Thanatermesis when I see him/her around! |
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| 17:06.02 | AlexAnteMachina | Elmo40: ping |
| 17:06.57 | AlexAnteMachina | didnt you ask me wether i'd like to test the latest version of elive, Elmo40 ? |
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| 23:15.02 | keyra | yepee! fresh packages uploaded! yummy yummy :D |
