IRC log for #elive on 20181115

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00:32.00keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_es_21! =)
00:32.06keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org
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06:03.30keyrawelcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_fy_29! =) I hope you are enjoying the system!
06:03.36keyraYou can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :)
07:46.23LupusEhi
07:46.25keyrahi there
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10:33.18keyrawelcome EliveWeb_27393! Ask your question! Have you see the new amazing forums too? http://forum.elivelinux.org , the are gorgeous! =)
10:33.41EliveWeb_27393Hello, I'm Mario
10:33.59EliveWeb_27393I have a question about Elive OS..
10:34.09EliveWeb_27393Can you run Autocad on it?
10:34.14keyrasee this FAQ entry which explains how to run windows applications in the correct way: https://www.elivecd.org/?s=windows
10:34.20keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
10:47.43grottemgreetings Naglfar LupusE  and all others in this nice chat
10:48.31grottemLupusE:
10:48.51grottemthe only thing i needed from ITIL was differences between change request and incident
10:55.01Naglfargreetings grottem
10:57.09Naglfargrottem, I believe change request could used to simply improve something
10:57.42Naglfarabout incident, that could be used to report something broken to fix
11:02.17grottemtrue
11:02.28grottembut that was the only thing they asked
11:02.28grottem:s
11:02.35grottemstressfor nothing
11:03.40grottemNaglfar: do you know is there a possibility to get a desktop notification or a beep
11:03.58grottembecause when i minimize the terminal i can't see the chat :p
11:04.00keyra:þ
11:04.26Naglfarof course, let me show the beep beep script I'm using
11:07.46Naglfarletme know if you have installed xosd-bin
11:08.06Naglfarhttps://packages.debian.org/stretch/xosd-bin
11:35.58LupusEhi grottem did you get the job?
11:36.04keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
11:36.34LupusEi got often the questionm what ITIL Tools I've worked with ...
11:37.16Naglfarhi LupusE
11:37.42LupusEhi Naglfar
11:38.19LupusEyour nicks have the same length ... it is difficult to seperate you both :P
11:38.21keyra:þ
11:39.56Naglfar:)
11:39.58keyra:)
11:40.48NaglfarLupusE join the lenght of us
11:42.37LupusEsince LupusE is short for 'lupus erythematodes', LupusER could get wrong to 'Lupus Emergency Room' :P
11:45.52Naglfarmaybe LupusEM
11:46.39LupusELupsieE :)
11:46.41keyra:)
11:48.12Naglfaror SLupusE
11:53.10grottemhi LupusE  not yet
11:53.17grottemNaglfar: i'm install it now
11:55.02grottemNaglfar: it's installed
11:55.11Naglfargrottem, test if this works:
11:55.13Naglfarecho "test" | osd_cat -A center -p top -c white -s 1 -S black -d 5
11:56.41grottemError initializing osd: No display
11:58.38Naglfarlet me kwnow if this is set:
11:58.40Naglfarecho $DISPLAY
12:00.33grottemi don't have a display :p
12:00.35keyra:þ
12:00.36grottemit's a pi
12:01.12Naglfarare you connected using ssh?
12:01.18keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
12:02.43grottemyes
12:02.55grottemi using ssh to connect to pi and screen to connect chat
12:04.22Naglfarthen, you have to install osd_cat on the computer you want to receive desktop notification
12:05.16Naglfarlet me know once installed
12:06.04LupusEssh x-forward ... :P
12:06.06keyra:þ
12:08.13LupusEis osd_cat somethoing like root-tail? (https://packages.debian.org/jessie/x11/root-tail)
12:08.57grottemelive doesn't isntall or know osd_cat
12:11.16Naglfargrottem, try this instead: play -q --norm=-8 /usr/share/eliva-sounds/xchat-1.wav
12:11.35NaglfarLupusE, I have not test it yet
12:13.04grottemnowp :p
12:13.06keyra:þ
12:19.11Naglfargrottem, let me know what version shows this: cat /etc/debian_version
12:21.56grottem7.11
12:40.31Naglfargrottem, try to download both:
12:40.46Naglfarhttps://downloads.sourceforge.net/libxosd/xosd-2.2.14.tar.gz
12:40.57Naglfarhttp://elite.bshellz.net/~naglfar/elive/xosd.EliveBuild
13:15.24grottemdone
13:20.01grottemdownloaded both
13:21.11Naglfarthen now we are going to try to compile xosd-2.2.14
13:21.22Naglfarby using this: sh xosd.EliveBuild
13:25.16grottemsh: 0: Can't open xosd.EliveBuild
13:26.50LupusEchmod +x xosd.EliveBuild  ... ?
13:26.56keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
13:27.13Naglfarrun it on the folder where both files are
13:27.22keyramicrosoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of the books and pencils, near of the chair... why ppl dont say just directory ?
13:29.07grottemsomething wrong in your script
13:29.19grottem~ ❯❯❯ sh xosd.EliveBuild                                                              127
13:29.22grottemtar: /home/grottem/xosd-2.2.14.tar.?z*: Cannot open: No such file or directory
13:29.25grottemtar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
13:36.08Naglfarnp, just fixed:
13:36.12Naglfarwget http://elite.bshellz.net/~naglfar/elive/xosd.EliveBuild
13:36.40grottemdownloading
13:36.55Naglfarreplace the earlier one
13:37.12Naglfarmaybe wget download it as xosd.EliveBuild.1
13:37.46grottemyeah but np
13:41.02grottemworking now
13:42.11grottemchecking for X... no
13:42.11grottemchecking for gtk-config... no
13:42.11grottemchecking for GTK - version >= 1.2.2... no
13:42.11grottem*** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
13:42.11grottem*** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
13:42.13grottem*** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the
13:42.16grottem*** full path to gtk-config.
13:42.18grottemconfigure: WARNING: *** GTK+ >= 1.2.2 not found ***
13:42.21grottemchecking for XInitThreads in -lX11... no
13:42.23grottemconfigure: error: *** X11 not threadsafe ***
13:43.49Naglfarchecking for X... no ?
13:43.55keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
13:44.43NaglfarI believe you are running it on the pi
13:45.57grottemne
13:45.59grottemno
13:46.03grottemi'm running it in elive
13:50.49Naglfarthen probably X11 libraries aren't installed
13:51.00Naglfarapt-get install libx11-dev
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13:55.47grotteminstalling now
13:55.50grottemhi jfbourdeau
13:57.17grottemchecking for X... no
13:57.17grottemchecking for gtk-config... no
13:57.17grottemchecking for GTK - version >= 1.2.2... no
13:57.17grottem*** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found
13:57.17grottem*** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
13:57.19grottem*** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the
13:57.22grottem*** full path to gtk-config.
13:57.24grottemconfigure: WARNING: *** GTK+ >= 1.2.2 not found ***
13:57.27grottemchecking for XInitThreads in -lX11... yes
13:57.29grottemchecking for XShapeQueryExtension in -lXext... no
13:57.32grottemconfigure: error: *** X11 Shape extension not found ***
13:58.16Naglfarit seems like there's no devel packages installed
13:58.33Naglfarapt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
13:59.49grottemok isntalling now
13:59.51grotteminstalling
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14:01.43grottemhey it worked
14:06.41Naglfarthen look at /tmp/package-xosd
14:07.17Naglfarls /tmp/package-xosd/usr/bin/
14:08.50grottemosd_cat  xosd-config
14:21.21Naglfargrottem, now we are goint to create xosd-2.2.14-i386_elive.deb
14:21.27Naglfarthat allow us to install it
14:23.37grottem:p
14:23.39keyra:þ
14:23.47Naglfardwoanload http://elite.bshellz.net/~naglfar/elive/xosd.control
14:24.05Naglfarand the updated http://elite.bshellz.net/~naglfar/elive/xosd.EliveBuild
14:24.14keyrato upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care
14:28.30Naglfarnext time we could ask Thana to fill xosd.control, maybe we wants include this on the elive repo
14:29.15Naglfarby now, once downloaded both, run xosd.EliveBuild again
14:29.48Naglfarit now should compile and create the deb
14:30.34grottemdownloading the build
14:32.05Naglfarlook in the last line, I just have changed this after download
14:32.13Naglfardpkg-deb --build $PKG TMP/$PACKAGE-$VERSION-${ARCH}_elive.deb
14:32.55grottemrunning the xosd.elivebuild
14:34.28grottemdpkg-deb: warning: parsing file '/tmp//package-xosd/DEBIAN/control' near line 15 package 'xosd':
14:34.31grottem<PROTECTED>
14:34.33grottemdpkg-deb: warning: ignoring 1 warning about the control file(s)
14:34.36grottemdpkg-deb: building package `xosd' in `TMP/-2.2.14-i586_elive.deb'.
14:34.38grottemdpkg-deb: error: unable to create `TMP/-2.2.14-i586_elive.deb': No such file or directory
14:34.58Naglfarsorry
14:35.10Naglfarchange the last line to: dpkg-deb --build $PKG $TMP/$PACKAGE-$VERSION-${ARCH}_elive.deb
14:35.51Naglfarabout missing maintainer, just edit xosd.control and add grottem
14:42.17grottemok
14:42.18grottemdone
14:42.21grottemi got the deb
14:46.04Naglfarwe may ask to thanatermesis to include this deb in the elive repo
14:46.11Naglfarby now intall it
14:47.16grotteminstalling
14:48.41grotteminstalled
14:49.04Naglfartry:  echo "test" | osd_cat -A center -p top -c white -s 1 -S black -d 5
14:49.53grottemnothing
14:50.53Naglfartry this instead:  echo "look at the top of the screen" | osd_cat -A center -p top -c white -s 1 -S black -d 10
14:52.12grottemit's there but i need to minimize all windows
14:52.32grottemno it there but white on white
14:52.35Naglfarlet try to change the color
14:53.01Naglfarjust reverse colors: echo "look at the top of the screen" | osd_cat -A center -p top -c black -s 1 -S white -d 10
14:53.50grottemyes working
14:53.56grottemit's small but working
14:54.17Naglfarwe must see how to change font size further
14:57.11Naglfarnow we need two files more
14:57.18Naglfarhttp://elite.bshellz.net/~naglfar/irssi/beepbeep.sh
14:58.56Naglfaruse: chmod +x beepbeep.sh
14:59.08Naglfarthen: ./beepbeep.sh
14:59.14grottemwget is slow today
15:07.02grottemdone
15:08.13Naglfarit works?
15:08.19keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
15:08.46grottemdon't here a beep sound
15:10.58Naglfartry: pgrep X
15:11.34grottem3331
15:11.34grottem3718
15:11.34grottem9140
15:11.34grottem20340
15:11.34grottem29205
15:11.36grottem29286
15:11.56NaglfarX is ok
15:12.08Naglfartry: xset q |grep -q 'Monitor is On'
15:13.07grottemnothing
15:14.48Naglfarsorry try this instead: xset q |grep 'Monitor is On'
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15:16.35grottemnothing
15:16.46jfbourdeauJust curious guys,  Naglfar grottem   WHat are your trying to do ?
15:17.17Naglfarjfbourdeau to retrieeve if 'Monitor is On' using xset
15:17.22grottemjfbourdeau: a notification from the chat on pi to my elive system
15:17.40jfbourdeau:-)
15:28.19Naglfargrottem, by now we are going to remove this:  xset q |grep 'Monitor is On'
15:28.52grottemok
15:29.01Naglfarreplace beepbeep.sh to the new one:
15:29.04Naglfarhttp://elite.bshellz.net/~naglfar/irssi/ssh-beep_beep.sh
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15:57.34grottemdoing it now sorry gf was on the phone
16:00.57grottemNaglfar: i see the beep beep but i don't hear the beep beep
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16:03.33keyrawelcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_en_23! =) I hope you are enjoying the system!
16:03.34keyrawelcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_en_85! =) I hope you are enjoying the system!
16:03.39keyraYou can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :)
16:04.18Naglfargrottem, that's because:
16:04.19Naglfarif [ $(pgrep X) ]
16:04.21Naglfarthen
16:04.28daddyummmm
16:04.40Naglfarit shows the beep beep
16:04.41Naglfarelse
16:04.49Naglfarit plays
16:04.55lilzWhat
16:05.11Naglfargrottem, while you are in X it shows the message
16:05.26Naglfarif you were no running X it plays the sound
16:05.42grottemooh ok
16:05.47grottemthen i see the beep beep
16:05.54Naglfargrottem, once it's working download the last file:
16:06.08Naglfarhttp://elite.bshellz.net/~naglfar/irssi/beep_beep.pl
16:06.38grottemdownloading
16:07.03Naglfargrottem, move ssh-beep_beep.sh script into your pi
16:08.09Naglfarsorrry grottem, not move ssh-beep_beep.sh
16:08.25Naglfarmove ssh-beep_beep.pl script into your pi instead
16:08.26grottemok don't moving
16:08.43Naglfarbeep_beep.pl
16:08.57grottemok
16:08.59grottemthought so
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16:09.42keyrawelcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_es_93! =) I hope you are enjoying the system!
16:09.48keyraYou can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :)
16:09.59grottembeepbeep.pl is in pi
16:10.05Naglfarok
16:10.14Naglfarnow you should use ssh into your pi to run ssh-beep_beep.sh, like this:
16:10.21jfbourdeaustarting to wonder if  grottem and Naglfar aren't  BOT/AI  ( Beep Beep in their discussions)
16:10.23keyrawonder! wonder!
16:10.34Naglfarwe are jfbourdeau
16:10.39Naglfarsorry jfbourdeau
16:10.43Naglfarwe aren't
16:10.52jfbourdeauLOL i know Naglfar  
16:10.56grottem111011011011001101000011101101110100011101101001101010110101001010101
16:10.58Naglfar:)
16:11.00keyra:)
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16:11.11suekohello
16:11.13keyrahi there
16:11.28grottemhi sueko
16:11.45jfbourdeauI once programmed an adding machine in " Assembler" when I was studying as a programmer in college....  I know about 100100010001 LOL
16:11.50jfbourdeauHI sueko
16:11.55Naglfarssh grottem@elive.computer /home/grottem/ssh-beep_beep.sh
16:11.57Naglfarhi sueko
16:13.47Naglfarreplace elive.computer with the ip or hostname of your elive computer
16:14.46grottemok
16:14.46grottemdone
16:17.04Naglfargrottem, when you do:
16:17.11Naglfarssh grottem@elive.computer /home/grottem/ssh-beep_beep.sh
16:17.27Naglfarfrom your pi, it shows the message into your elive computer?
16:17.33keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
16:17.55grottemyes
16:17.57grottem:D
16:18.00grottembeepbeep
16:18.03Naglfarok
16:18.26Naglfarthen replace this line in beep_beep.pl:
16:18.40NaglfarIrssi::settings_add_str("lookandfeel", "beep_cmd", "ssh-beep_beep.sh &");
16:18.41Naglfarto
16:18.58NaglfarIrssi::settings_add_str("lookandfeel", "beep_cmd", "ssh grottem@elive.computer /home/grottem/ssh-beep_beep.sh &");
16:21.47grottemdone
16:22.12Naglfarthen put beep_beep.pl into ~/.irssi/scripts/autorun/
16:22.30Naglfarand use this on irssi: /load beep_beep.pl
16:23.09Naglfarif it loads ok, use this on irssi to test it: /beep
16:29.01grottemcan't find the file
16:30.25grottemok done but i made a booboo
16:32.13grottemssh: Could not resolve hostname
16:33.01Naglfargrottem, check this line: ssh grottem@elive.computer /home/grottem/ssh-beep_beep.sh
16:33.10grottemi did
16:33.15grottemit's correct
16:36.14Naglfargrottem, try make a new script: pi-beep_beep.sh and put those two lines:
16:36.32Naglfar#!/bin/bash
16:36.39Naglfarssh grottem@elive.computer /home/grottem/ssh-beep_beep.sh
16:37.02Naglfarand test it
16:37.17Naglfarchmod +x pi-beep_beep.sh
16:37.26Naglfarthen ./pi-beep_beep.sh
16:39.25grottemafter giving the password it works
16:40.54Naglfarwe are going to solve the password after this step
16:41.02Naglfargrottem, in beep_beep.pl replace:
16:41.06NaglfarIrssi::settings_add_str("lookandfeel", "beep_cmd", "ssh grottem@elive.computer /home/grottem/ssh-beep_beep.sh &");
16:41.23Naglfarreplace  "ssh grottem@elive.computer /home/grottem/ssh-beep_beep.sh &"
16:41.33Naglfarto the location of the new pi-beep_beep.sh
16:43.21Naglfarit should be some like:
16:43.48NaglfarIrssi::settings_add_str("lookandfeel", "beep_cmd", "/home/pi-grottem/pi-beep_beep.sh &");
16:46.59grottemworks
16:49.34Naglfargrottem, about the password
16:50.54Naglfarin elive use ssh-keygen
16:53.36grottemyes
16:54.05Naglfarcat ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub | ssh@pi.computer "cat - > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys"
16:54.27Naglfarreplace ssh@pi.computer for ssh grottem@ip of your ip
16:55.58Naglfarsince this grottem, you are authorized to ssh from your pi into your elive computer
16:56.40grottemdone
17:11.47Naglfargrottem have you tested if it works ?
17:11.53keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
17:13.36grottemkeeps prompting for the pasword
17:14.45Naglfargrottem, check that the contetents of these two files are the same:
17:15.01Naglfarinto your elive computer ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub
17:15.23grottemyes
17:15.28grottembot are the same
17:15.35Naglfarinto your pi computer ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
17:17.23grottemyep bot are fine
17:22.36Naglfargrottem, try login reverse, from your elive to pi
17:23.21Naglfarit shouldn't ask for password
17:23.49Naglfarit should ask for password, sorry
17:24.31grottemnowp didn't ask for password
17:26.40grottemfixed
17:26.46grottemit was the otherway round
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17:48.20Naglfarthen it should works fine now
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19:17.23PrinceAMDgrottem|f00d, how's the food man?
19:17.29keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
19:17.35PrinceAMDapt seen Thanatermesis
19:17.38aptthanatermesis <~unknown@elive/Thanatermesis> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 49d 1h 27m 45s ago, saying: 'o/ Naglfar '.
19:20.10Naglfarhello PrinceAMD
19:20.22Naglfarhello apt
19:21.22PrinceAMDhell Naglfar
19:21.34Naglfar:)
19:21.34PrinceAMDops!
19:21.34keyra:)
19:21.34PrinceAMDhello Naglfar !
19:21.43PrinceAMDwhat's going on ?
19:22.20NaglfarPrinceAMD, you watch some youtube videos?
19:23.39PrinceAMDo_O
19:23.41PrinceAMDi'm not
19:26.53Naglfarnp
19:27.18Naglfarwe didn't seen Thanatermesis around lately
19:27.18PrinceAMDNaglfar, elive 3.0?
19:27.24keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
19:27.28PrinceAMDhe's in columbia
19:27.47PrinceAMDhe's having some fun over there
19:28.09Naglfarsure fun, very busy in colombia :)
19:28.11keyra:)
19:28.39PrinceAMDyes
19:28.57Naglfarabout elive 3.0 it's on the way
19:29.33PrinceAMD3.0 is released
19:29.46PrinceAMDyou're not using it?
19:29.52keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
19:30.01grottem|f00dPrinceAMD: good thx
19:30.07Naglfarnot yet, probably the luckiest do
19:30.13jfbourdeauHi everyone.  3.0 has been there for a while / using it since the launch in sept ( at a little before / Beta...)
19:30.41PrinceAMDjfbourdeau, nice, how's the experience been so far?
19:31.36jfbourdeauI like it... come from window world, Mac before that... got used to linux with Ubuntu distros... And even if elive 3.x has some limitation for me ( some apps can't work in 32 bits)  I love it... ROck Solid / Stable, do not use a lot of ressource...    
19:32.05jfbourdeauI tried some Debian distro ( KDE, GNOME and other), but ELive 3.x even if a little bit older, is for now my prefered
19:32.32jfbourdeauwhen I am not in elive, I am in Debian / Gnome.... Liked Debian / KDE ( Neptune) but it had some glitches)
19:33.27jfbourdeauso I am oftentime in Elive... Some other distros have more modern looks or applets / Widget but, if at the end of the day, they are not stable, what is worth all those bells and wistles...
19:34.04jfbourdeauI was in Debian 9 stable/Gnome presently wathing netflix LOL when I got into the conversation.
19:34.13PrinceAMDwow, you're enjoying it, that's how i felt when i started to use it
19:34.15keyrawoooha!
19:34.25PrinceAMDsorry to disturb the netflix
19:34.33PrinceAMDiirc you're a consultant in canada?
19:34.37jfbourdeauIn other distros, Debian or Ubuntu based, I am seeing misc problems that I don't see with Elive.... it is more stable
19:34.39keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
19:34.46keyrawe had encounter problems that stayed for months because nobody reported them before, so please report any problem that you can see, they are very important for us to know: http://bugs.elivecd.org
19:35.12jfbourdeauMTL Canada yep... own a email filtering company and doing MLM... Former IT consultant, not doing IT anymore...
19:35.47jfbourdeauWhen Elive goes 64 bits, I think I'll have everything I need in it, if it stays as stable / fast  as 3.x is
19:35.54keyraelive is 32 bit, 64bits will be included after the release of 3.0, or you can run 64 bit executables too like this: http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?58,8936,8957#msg-8957
19:36.08jfbourdeautks keyra
19:36.16PrinceAMDok
19:37.27jfbourdeauAMD I played with a lot with Ubuntu Mint, Ubuntu Budgie, and tried other Ubuntu based cool OS...But I always come back to Elive as for stability / speed... I just work, do not crash and less weird glitches...
19:37.38jfbourdeauwhat are your using PrinceAMD ?
19:37.52PrinceAMDUbuntu :/
19:37.54keyra:|
19:38.05PrinceAMDbefore you jump off a wall, let me explain
19:38.05jfbourdeauwhich one ?
19:38.17PrinceAMDi'm on 16.04 and 18.04
19:38.42jfbourdeauwhich environnement ( KDE/PLasma, GNome, etc) ?
19:38.48PrinceAMDso i write software most of the time, i use ubuntu on servers so i end up using it on desktop
19:38.48keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
19:39.17PrinceAMDinitially i used elive to do development then gradually i moved over to ubuntu
19:39.27jfbourdeauI get it
19:40.17grottemkeyra spank PrinceAMD
19:40.19keyrapants OFF!
19:40.31PrinceAMDlol, i didn't like ubuntu prior to 16.x
19:40.44PrinceAMDit's come a long way.
19:40.55grottemkeyra: sprank PrinceAMD harder
19:41.02PrinceAMDouch!
19:41.39jfbourdeau<PROTECTED>
19:41.48jfbourdeauhaving fun with Keyra ;-)
19:42.00grottemkeyra spank jfbourdeau
19:42.21jfbourdeauLOL grottem
19:42.31PrinceAMDgrottem, you've been here too long, you're being like thana, he really dislikes ubuntu
19:42.52PrinceAMDapt whois PrinceAMD
19:42.52aptsomebody said princeamd was probably a dude that hangs out in #elive with a slight beer gut with 1 girlfriend, and is also a edje coder, or unskilled in the ways of love, or very skilled
19:42.54keyraa badd ass
19:43.15grottemhaha
19:43.17PrinceAMDwell well, it's still the same
19:43.18grottemPrinceAMD:
19:43.23PrinceAMDapt whois roxville
19:43.23aptsomebody said roxville was a gimper, not a gamer
19:43.42PrinceAMDapt whois LinuxNIT
19:43.42apthmm... linuxnit is "LinuxNIT http://david.braker.com/linux/", or a spell-hell and proud of it
19:43.43grottemi truely dislike because they are sellouts
19:43.57jfbourdeauUbuntu is cool... Tried some cool usefriendly distro...  EndlessOs, and several other real userfriendly
19:44.40PrinceAMDjfbourdeau, for user-friendly i think thana did a great job with elive, i don't use a standard setup.
19:45.17PrinceAMDi don't like gnome,kde, xfce
19:45.22jfbourdeaubut the more I learn about linux, the more I am being "absorbed" by the Debian "cult"  LOL joke  but as it seem to the the " source" LOL and I like the idea of STABLE version with less glitches and so on
19:45.31grottemhmm ubuntu sells or selled user data and information to corps like amazone
19:46.42jfbourdeauas you are more Linux pro than me... Presently my 2nd OS is Debian 9 stable / Gnome   ,,, If i ran Gnome on Ubuntu, would it be as fast and as stable ?   for now Debian 9 / GNome is ok.
19:49.21jfbourdeauAs for than not liking Ubuntu, I respect that... But I am more the " I prefer this for that reason " kind of guy, than  the " this is garbage / sucks " kind of guy LOL
19:49.29keyraThe first thing to do if anything sucks is to report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org ! Or do you think things might get fixed magically without anybody knowing??
19:49.30jfbourdeauWe're all different :-) Diversity
19:49.54grottemi started on suse 9 :)
19:50.34jfbourdeau<PROTECTED>
19:51.06PrinceAMDjfbourdeau, that's an adult approach to it :)
19:51.08keyraroll over and choke
19:51.11keyra:)
19:51.45PrinceAMDwtf
19:52.07jfbourdeau<PROTECTED>
19:52.09keyrawonder! wonder!
19:52.25jfbourdeauadult test 123
19:52.34jfbourdeautest 2  : that's an adult approach to it
19:53.07PrinceAMDkeyra how old are you?
19:53.10keyraapt, how old are you?
19:53.10apt900 ... like Yoda ...
19:53.16keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
19:53.22jfbourdeau<PROTECTED>
19:53.23PrinceAMDwhen i first came on in 2006 keyra was here
19:53.38PrinceAMDover the years thana has updated her code and given her a bitch as attitude
19:53.42jfbourdeauapt is a bot or person ? I don't remember
19:53.42PrinceAMDass*
19:53.50PrinceAMDapt and keyra are bots
19:53.50apt...but and keyra is already something else...
19:54.27jfbourdeauapt seen Thanatermesis
19:54.29aptthanatermesis <~unknown@elive/Thanatermesis> was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 49d 2h 4m 36s ago, saying: 'o/ Naglfar '.
19:54.43jfbourdeauapt seen LupusE
19:54.43aptlupuse is currently on #elive. Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 6h 27m 53s, last said: 'chmod +x xosd.EliveBuild  ... ?'.
19:54.49PrinceAMDkeyra is also in #elive-dev which is empty
19:57.57grottembtw how are you PrinceAMD, long time no see
19:59.37PrinceAMDi'm good
19:59.44PrinceAMDjust finish a big project yesterday
19:59.52PrinceAMDputting it in the cloud right now.
19:59.53grottemnice
20:00.10PrinceAMD@jfbourdeau, i got my first client last weekend (consultancy gig)
20:00.28jfbourdeau<PROTECTED>
20:00.43jfbourdeauwhat you have to do is " Fun " ?
20:00.55PrinceAMDwhen i worked for elive i had the flexibility to work whenever and code whenever, i miss that
20:01.05grottemPrinceAMD: if everything works out i'll start soon as a consultant myself
20:01.33PrinceAMDjfbourdeau, yeah it's what i enjoy doing.
20:01.49PrinceAMDgrottem, that's great, Cisco right?
20:01.55keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
20:02.01jfbourdeau<PROTECTED>
20:03.09PrinceAMDmy idea is to get a few clients, enough to pay the bills and give me the ability to hire a few developers, pay them to write code!
20:03.30jfbourdeau<PROTECTED>
20:03.31PrinceAMDjfbourdeau, what are you doing now if i may ask?
20:03.34grottemnope
20:03.41grottem1 and 2 line support
20:03.44keyraI'm the good and the bad, the black and the white, the alpha and omega, I'm beyond time, there's no atomic substances on me and my form is pure energy, I'm a reflection of my echo resonating across the universe from the future, so what I'm, you know now?
20:03.50grottembut i can grow in to cisco
20:04.14PrinceAMDgrottem, hmm, i need to find out more about that business model, most company over here does not have a support line.
20:04.24jfbourdeau2 things PrinceAMD   1) Lastspam.com    email filtering service ( 15 years ) and 2) Direct Sales / MLM (12 years).
20:05.34PrinceAMDnice :), jfbourdeau whenever you decide you need to get a new website done, let me know :)
20:05.36keyra:)
20:06.21jfbourdeau<PROTECTED>
20:06.25keyrasee! a zoidberg in a single line!  (\/) (°,,,°) (\/)
20:06.59jfbourdeauI am trying to find someone who would like to help us get some sales from the internet (SEO, better web site and so on) and be paid with % of the sales we get
20:07.20jfbourdeauand not pay this person for his time to do stuff that won't finnaly bring new sales
20:07.20PrinceAMDyes, i see you have a lot of content up there, maybe you can minimize on that and keep it short.
20:07.31grottemPrinceAMD: you need itil for that :p
20:07.33keyra:þ
20:07.41PrinceAMDjfbourdeau, i doubt the new website will bring hell-of-a-lot-of-sales if any
20:07.42grottemit's a pain in the but to study but really handy
20:08.28jfbourdeauI know PrinceAMD   I need someone good SEO and all those strategies to bring traffic, and if he does, I need the web site to be more modern / appealing
20:08.44PrinceAMDgrottem, thanks for the tip
20:09.07grottemjfbourdeau: SEO most things you can do yourself
20:09.31Naglfarjfbourdeau if you need help about SEO let us know
20:10.10Naglfargrottem and me can help you
20:10.21jfbourdeaugrottem:  and Naglfar  any free tips / advices are welcome :-)
20:10.42grottemjfbourdeau: use meta tags and the right once
20:10.48grottemfor starters
20:11.24grottemi had a site SEO ready but not enough content :p
20:12.49jfbourdeauI will create a little " virtual private place for you and grottem " to talk with me for advices.... Even if I was there when we coded web site with text editor, I am not a web guy.... so event editing my html content will be tough for me LOL but my partner is better than me at that and could apply your suggestions.
20:17.50PrinceAMDwell looks like you're in the right place jfbourdeau
20:18.39jfbourdeauLOL
20:18.41PrinceAMDthere's a lot of new ways todo website without having to write code
20:19.19PrinceAMDhttps://gohugo.io/ <-- has my interest
20:19.38jfbourdeau<PROTECTED>
20:20.30grottemproblem is with site that build a site without writing the code your self is that it has a bad SEO
20:20.40grottemif you want to correct it you have to pay
20:21.07PrinceAMDgrottem, i can't say for the seo bit but maybe you can check that out yourself
20:21.14PrinceAMDhttps://gohugo.io/showcase/
20:21.47PrinceAMDhttps://www.wix.com/code/home <--- is interesting too, i've help a couple start up their small business in trinidad with wix
20:21.59PrinceAMDhttps://www.wix.com/
20:22.14PrinceAMD99% visual
20:24.13PrinceAMDjfbourdeau, does your spam filter work with outlook (exchange server)
20:24.34grottemwix is bad
20:24.58grottemi won't recomend that
20:25.09grottemhugo has SEO issuses too
20:25.13grottemno author tag
20:25.15PrinceAMDnvm, i'll go through your site.
20:25.42grottemwix is ok if you don't want to use it pro
20:26.18PrinceAMDppl will always find a way to not use 'it pro'
20:31.28jfbourdeauPrinceAMD:   people make their DNS MX records point to us, and we redirect to whatever place they want ( exchange / Outlook 365 included)
20:32.01jfbourdeauso the bad stuff stays at our end, and only the good stuff reaches the customers email servers.
20:32.58jfbourdeau<PROTECTED>
20:36.46grottemi give advice use wix for portfolia or blogs
20:37.04grottembut not if you have a firm or so
20:37.20grottemthen i would say do the right investment in a good site
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20:45.59PrinceAMDgrottem, agreed!
20:47.35jfbourdeaujust rebooted to elive LOL  " grottem, agreed! "   to what ? I missed a part of the discussion
20:50.04PrinceAMD<grottem> then i would say do the right investment in a good site
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20:50.04PrinceAMD<PrinceAMD> grottem, agreed!
20:54.16jfbourdeauok
20:54.18jfbourdeau:-)
21:01.21LupusEhi
21:01.22keyrahi there
21:04.38jfbourdeauHi LupusE   you had a good day ?
21:04.43LupusEnope.
21:04.56LupusEuh, why is it blinking?
21:05.02keyraif nobody answers you, I suggest to try the new Elive Forums, they are much more active! :)
21:05.04LupusEsomething in the buffer :/
21:05.07keyra:|
21:06.32jfbourdeausorry to hear. At least you're still alive and will be tomorrow :-)
21:17.57grottemclear buffer :p
21:17.59keyra:þ
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22:19.16keyrawelcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_en_22! =) I hope you are enjoying the system!
22:19.22keyraYou can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :)
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22:22.25keyrawelcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_fr_31! =) I hope you are enjoying the system!
22:22.31keyraYou can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :)
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