IRC log for #elive on 20190430

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00:39.14keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_31! =)
00:39.20keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org
00:39.34Elive_user_en_31www.linuxidc.com
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02:37.29keyrawelcome EliveWeb_59064! Ask your question! Have you see the new amazing forums too? http://forum.elivelinux.org , the are gorgeous! =)
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02:55.35keyrawelcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_pt_15! =) I hope you are enjoying the system!
02:55.41keyraYou can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :)
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02:57.30keyrawelcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_pt_15! =) I hope you are enjoying the system!
02:57.36keyraYou can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :)
02:58.43EliveWeb_59064Hello,  I am trying to install elive 3, however 2 issues so far.    First the installer seems to hang at a dmraid not found issue.  Second I need to boot from my 256Gb SSD at sda and want to have the OS on the 1Tb Nvme SSD
02:58.46keyraThanatermesis ping, somebody needs you
02:58.54keyrathanks for reporting the issue, by knowing it we can solve the problem for you and for everybody else affected, please use the BTS for that: http://bugs.elivecd.org
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03:26.02keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_es_68! =)
03:26.08keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org
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03:45.01keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_31! =)
03:45.07keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org
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06:57.10keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_es_15! =)
06:57.16keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org
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07:01.38keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user1! =)
07:01.44keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org
07:02.07Elive_user1heool
07:04.51LupusEgood morning
07:04.54keyrawanna share a coffe with me? :)
07:07.07LupusEas always, keyra. hot and dark as our souls.
09:08.34Naglfargood morning LupusE
09:09.20LupusEdo you like to join our coffee round? :)
09:09.22keyra:)
09:10.15LupusEwe're about to discuss if the ostsfile is more important than a local DNS.
09:10.21LupusEerr, hostfile
09:10.41LupusEkeyra thinks the dns is the only important nameservice, today.
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10:38.09keyrawelcome EliveWeb_31783! Ask your question! Have you see the new amazing forums too? http://forum.elivelinux.org , the are gorgeous! =)
11:18.55NaglfarLupusE yes, please
11:19.23Naglfarabout hostfile, I don't know where it is
11:20.19NaglfarI use /etc/resolv.conf to resolve dns
12:07.50LupusEit is /etc/hosts or c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts
12:09.05LupusEthe /etc/resolv.conf is only the definition where to find the information about the hostname resolving. ut the content is stored in DNS, hosts or nss (name service foo).
12:09.55LupusEand th ehosts is not only /etc/hosts, it could also bee something like lmhosts for 'lan manageR' (old novel crap, adapted by microsoft)
12:10.34LupusEit is not fair, noves has done a lot of good work, in th eold days. but ist is still legacy and shouldn't be part of our todays infrastructure.
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13:16.57keyrawelcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_es_32! =) I hope you are enjoying the system!
13:17.03keyraYou can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :)
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13:46.13keyrawelcome EliveWeb_34924! Ask your question! Have you see the new amazing forums too? http://forum.elivelinux.org , the are gorgeous! =)
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14:55.46keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_es_26! =)
14:55.52keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org
14:55.58Elive_user_es_26wohooo
15:07.25NaglfarLupusE, I use /etc/hosts to assign host names to each ip
15:18.35Naglfarawesome solar-powered Raspberry Pi computer labs in Peru: https://opensource.org/node/981
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16:07.31origalili1how is this os with gaming on an outdated hardware?
16:07.38origalili1GTX 460
16:10.08Naglfarorigalili1, there's several games you can play on it
16:10.19origalili1is it stable though?
16:11.27Naglfarit depends on the driver release you use
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17:35.59keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user1! =)
17:36.05keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org
17:36.27Elive_user1Boa tarde.
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18:45.14keyrawelcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_fr_23! =) I hope you are enjoying the system!
18:45.20keyraYou can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :)
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19:06.12keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_en_12! =)
19:06.18keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org
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21:41.41keyrawelcome to Elive, Elive_user_sc_27! =)
21:41.47keyrahow is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org
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23:07.58*** join/#elive EliveWeb_80456 (17e91176@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.23.233.17.118)
23:07.58keyrawelcome EliveWeb_80456! Ask your question! Have you see the new amazing forums too? http://forum.elivelinux.org , the are gorgeous! =)
23:08.54EliveWeb_80456Just downloaded the second USB version of your newest release and again got a "corrupt" file when it completed!
23:09.06keyrause "usb-bootable-elive" tool to automatically download and record your USB with Elive. If you are in other Linux* use "dd" from a terminal or the Usb-ImageWriter tool, if you are in Windows use UsbWriter, please do not use other tools than the suggested ones
23:11.20EliveWeb_80456This is not a write problem but a download problem from you website sent to me via email! Refer to the download email sent to me yesterday. The USB download takes about 20 minutes but fails at the completion.
23:11.35keyraThanatermesis ping, somebody needs you
23:12.03ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, hello
23:12.11EliveWeb_80456Hello
23:12.13keyrahi there
23:12.23Thanatermesisi need you to test something for me, to know which mirror is failing
23:12.27Thanatermesisare you on linux?
23:12.31EliveWeb_80456Ok
23:12.53EliveWeb_80456No, I am on Windows 10 (which I hate!)
23:13.05Thanatermesishum, that can be more difficult...
23:13.09Thanatermesiswhich country are you on ?
23:13.14EliveWeb_80456Canada
23:13.21Thanatermesisok let me check the mirrors..
23:13.37EliveWeb_80456Thanks
23:13.52Thanatermesisfrance, UK, and dreamhost..
23:13.58Thanatermesisthe one that is picked for you should be dreamhost
23:14.11Thanatermesisthey are not very reliable, hum
23:14.17EliveWeb_80456Let me check the email.
23:14.27Thanatermesisyou don't see it in the email EliveWeb_80456
23:14.36Thanatermesisthe mirror is picked based in your location from the web
23:14.56EliveWeb_80456This is what was sent to me "https://www.elivecd.org/donation/download-stable-303-opal-297349562/" yesterday.
23:15.26Thanatermesisok lets try this one:
23:15.37EliveWeb_80456Oddly enough, the DVD image downloaded successfully.
23:15.57Thanatermesisthe DVD image downloads but the USB one fails to download?
23:16.05EliveWeb_80456Yes.
23:16.09Thanatermesishum
23:16.10keyrause "usb-bootable-elive" tool to automatically download and record your USB with Elive. If you are in other Linux* use "dd" from a terminal or the Usb-ImageWriter tool, if you are in Windows use UsbWriter, please do not use other tools than the suggested ones
23:16.19ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, ok try to download from this one :
23:16.20Thanatermesishttps://elive.noneleft.org/isos/stable/
23:16.31Thanatermesiselive_3.0.4_stable_usb.img
23:16.42Thanatermesishttps://elive.noneleft.org/isos/stable/elive_3.0.4_stable_usb.img  <-- EliveWeb_80456
23:17.02Naglfarhi Thanatermesis
23:17.08Thanatermesishi Naglfar
23:17.12EliveWeb_80456These require donations!
23:17.17ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, nope
23:17.32ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, no donation required
23:17.37keyraif you are talking about the payment required for elive make a look to this https://www.elivecd.org/?s=payment
23:17.41Naglfarhi EliveWeb_80456
23:18.22Naglfar2019-04-30 23:18:11 (77.4 MB/s) - 'elive_3.0.4_stable_usb.img' saved [3417309184/3417309184]
23:20.28EliveWeb_80456Whoa. Slow down. The 2 pages you sent me require a donation to download immediately or an email to download later. Been there, done that! If you got the last message from the last download, you are right but when I tty to open it I get the corrupt message.
23:20.46Thanatermesishttps://elive.noneleft.org/isos/stable/elive_3.0.4_stable_usb.img  <-- EliveWeb_80456 what about this link?
23:21.21EliveWeb_80456Same thing! Donate to download or email.
23:21.31Thanatermesismmh, let me se..
23:21.37Thanatermesisthere shoudl be an issue
23:21.45keyrathanks for reporting the issue, by knowing it we can solve the problem for you and for everybody else affected, please use the BTS for that: http://bugs.elivecd.org
23:22.33NaglfarThanatermesis, this link works for me using: wget https://elive.noneleft.org/isos/stable/elive_3.0.4_stable_usb.img
23:22.47ThanatermesisNaglfar, i think that is because EliveWeb_80456 is connection from another page
23:22.53Thanatermesisredirection issues
23:23.04Thanatermesisgive me a second
23:23.12Naglfarok
23:23.25Naglfarnp, take the time you need
23:23.41EliveWeb_80456Thanks for the help.
23:23.46ThanatermesisI added the kiwiirc website (his chat window) on the list...
23:23.49ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, try again, same link
23:23.55Thanatermesishttps://elive.noneleft.org/isos/stable/elive_3.0.4_stable_usb.img  
23:24.16EliveWeb_80456Same problem!!
23:24.36ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, ok, try again ?
23:24.39Thanatermesisi added another conf
23:25.00EliveWeb_80456Nope!
23:25.04Thanatermesismmh
23:25.26ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, again test ?
23:25.57EliveWeb_80456Nope. You have a great distro but this is very annoying!
23:26.01Thanatermesisheh
23:26.18Thanatermesisok let me fix this in another way, i will check your issue later...
23:27.07EliveWeb_80456I actually used it in a VirtualBox setup on Windows 10 and was so impressed I want to dual boot it. And that is where the trouble started!
23:27.29ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, well, is important to know the issues in order to fix them, otherwise if nobody reports them... problems for everybody
23:27.39Thanatermesisand you are reporting these issues, so now they are fixing :)
23:27.41keyra:)
23:27.47ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, ok, try to download from the link on your email
23:27.47EliveWeb_80456True.
23:28.04Thanatermesisyou should be able to download now only from the 2 existing mirrors, i removed the other ones that -could- cause the issues
23:28.54EliveWeb_80456Ok, I tried the link in the email and it takes me to the download page but as soon as I click on the USB download it jumps to the donation page!!
23:29.02ThanatermesisNaglfar, EliveWeb_80456,  unfortunately i think that this issue really happened to other people (downloading the USB version doesn't boots) as i have read in the forums... now thanks to EliveWeb_80456 i see that the issue shoudl have been the mirrors
23:29.06keyrause "usb-bootable-elive" tool to automatically download and record your USB with Elive. If you are in other Linux* use "dd" from a terminal or the Usb-ImageWriter tool, if you are in Windows use UsbWriter, please do not use other tools than the suggested ones
23:29.11Thanatermesismmmh ok let me try to change bakc the confs..
23:29.22keyrathanks for reporting the issue, by knowing it we can solve the problem for you and for everybody else affected, please use the BTS for that: http://bugs.elivecd.org
23:29.39ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, link of email works now ?
23:30.10EliveWeb_80456Nope. Redirected again!
23:30.38EliveWeb_80456Curious, where are you??
23:30.47Naglfarthank you Thanatermesis
23:30.51Thanatermesisspain
23:30.58Thanatermesisactually the link works for me, thats strange...
23:31.08ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, so you click in the "animated download buttons" and it redirects you ?
23:31.21EliveWeb_80456Oh so it is much later. Thanks for doing this.
23:31.32ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, are you using some AD protection plugin in your browser?
23:31.48Thanatermesis"ad block"
23:32.00EliveWeb_80456Yes, I use AD-BLOCK. Wanrt me to turn it off?
23:32.10Thanatermesisyes, try to turn it off to see
23:33.00Thanatermesisactually 4000 people downloaded these versions... so sad if the USB version didn't worked for most of them :/
23:33.08EliveWeb_80456Same issue.
23:33.12Thanatermesishuh
23:33.14keyra:|
23:33.25Thanatermesisok let me try to remove more entry confs...
23:34.19ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, now?
23:34.49EliveWeb_80456Nope! I am surprised that this is the first time you have heard of this issue.
23:34.58keyrathanks for reporting the issue, by knowing it we can solve the problem for you and for everybody else affected, please use the BTS for that: http://bugs.elivecd.org
23:35.06Thanatermesisyeah, today's nobody report issues anymore :/
23:35.07ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, now ?
23:35.19Thanatermesisin old linux times, users was much more collaborative in these things
23:35.33Thanatermesisnow, seems like "time is more precious" and if something not works, they just forget
23:36.00EliveWeb_80456Nope. Buy me a plane ticket and I will come over and get a hardcopy!!
23:36.06Thanatermesishaha
23:36.16Thanatermesismmh that is very strange so i have removed all the redirect configurations
23:36.27ThanatermesisEliveWeb_80456, if you reload the web page stills not works?
23:36.28EliveWeb_80456Such a nice distro! Shame.
23:36.52EliveWeb_80456I will turn off my browser and restart it and try again.....
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23:38.17keyrawelcome EliveWeb_52603! Ask your question! Have you see the new amazing forums too? http://forum.elivelinux.org , the are gorgeous! =)
23:38.53EliveWeb_52603Sorry, I forgot that this wipes out my first userid. This is about the USB download issue...
23:39.14Thanatermesisno problem
23:39.28EliveWeb_52603No change. Sorry.
23:39.31Thanatermesismmh, i tested on another machine and it works here
23:39.34Thanatermesisthats strange
23:40.11Thanatermesishttps://elive.noneleft.org/isos/stable/elive_3.0.4_stable_usb.img  EliveWeb_52603
23:40.14Thanatermesisthis works for you ?
23:40.22EliveWeb_52603The DVD download works and I tried to load it off a USB but nothing happens when I try to load it.
23:40.35keyrause "usb-bootable-elive" tool to automatically download and record your USB with Elive. If you are in other Linux* use "dd" from a terminal or the Usb-ImageWriter tool, if you are in Windows use UsbWriter, please do not use other tools than the suggested ones
23:41.10ThanatermesisEliveWeb_52603, your USB download has the correct md5 ? (size should be around 3.2 GB)
23:41.58EliveWeb_52603No, that link does not work either.
23:42.06Thanatermesisstills redirect?
23:42.09EliveWeb_52603Yes to the size.
23:42.19Thanatermesisand this link?  https://elive.noneleft.org/isos/stable/
23:42.21EliveWeb_52603Yes, it redirects.
23:42.47EliveWeb_52603The new link is the donation/email link.
23:43.00Thanatermesisit doesnt makes sense since I removed all the redirection entries, sounds like your browser has cached some data...
23:43.04Thanatermesiscan you try from incognito window ?
23:43.14Thanatermesisctrl + shift + n
23:46.25EliveWeb_52603Ok now it is downloading!! Yippee!! It does not tell me how long to download. when I completes I will let you know if it is a good copy.
23:46.45Thanatermesisok... so let's summarize
23:46.54Thanatermesisthe issue of redirection was in your browser cache
23:47.06Thanatermesisbut now i don't know which conf was the wrong one :)
23:47.08keyra:)
23:47.21ThanatermesisEliveWeb_52603, you are on the chat window of the Elive wbsite, right?
23:47.21EliveWeb_52603Hmmmm...
23:47.32EliveWeb_52603Yes
23:47.43Thanatermesisok, i will do a few tests with that here to see if i reproduce the problem...
23:47.52ThanatermesisEliveWeb_52603, i just found this tool on internet:  http://www.winmd5.com/
23:48.11Thanatermesisto check the MD5 of the download, so you can verify if the preivous USB version was correctly downloaded
23:48.23keyrause "usb-bootable-elive" tool to automatically download and record your USB with Elive. If you are in other Linux* use "dd" from a terminal or the Usb-ImageWriter tool, if you are in Windows use UsbWriter, please do not use other tools than the suggested ones
23:48.33EliveWeb_52603Let me do that now.
23:52.39EliveWeb_52603Sorry but where do I find the checksum of the bad downloads??
23:52.49keyrayou can found all the files in main mirror, but is the slowest mirror: http://isos.elivecd.org , you can found the md5 and signature files in their directories, stable or development
23:52.58ThanatermesisMD5 3.0.4 USB – ec1c9035ea44149a6aca41ef9b6aab58
23:53.53EliveWeb_52603They match!! Don't know whether that is good or bad at this point!
23:54.25Thanatermesisthats an important information :)
23:54.27keyra:)
23:54.34Thanatermesisso, the USB download is correct
23:54.43Thanatermesisin fact you can stop the download since it was a correct download
23:54.52Thanatermesisnow the problem is: the USB version doesn't boot for you
23:54.56keyraThanatermesis ping, somebody needs you
23:54.57Thanatermesishow you recorded it to the USB ?
23:55.10keyrause "usb-bootable-elive" tool to automatically download and record your USB with Elive. If you are in other Linux* use "dd" from a terminal or the Usb-ImageWriter tool, if you are in Windows use UsbWriter, please do not use other tools than the suggested ones
23:55.15EliveWeb_52603Using ETCHER.
23:55.24Thanatermesismmmh, i need to try this then too
23:55.37ThanatermesisEliveWeb_52603, can you try to record it using the other suggested tools ?
23:55.45Thanatermesiswait let me search..
23:55.59Thanatermesishttps://www.elivecd.org/wp-content/uploads/files/tools/USBWriter-1.3.exe
23:56.04Thanatermesistry to use this one
23:56.07EliveWeb_52603But I am still told that the file is corrupt so I can't do anything with it. I used the DVD file in the USB.
23:56.08Thanatermesisis more simple and should work without problems
23:56.27ThanatermesisEliveWeb_52603, where you have seen this "corrupt" message?
23:57.48EliveWeb_52603I agree but when I try to load it as a dual-boot it seems to hang in the beginning. But you say that it should still load the OS? In that case I will try again and just let it run.
23:58.15EliveWeb_52603The message appears when I try to open the USB file I downloaded.
23:58.26ThanatermesisEliveWeb_52603, if you have seen a message saying that the system is corrupt is one thing, but it doesn't boots its another thing
23:58.51Thanatermesisetcher says that is corrupt when you try to use it with etcher?
23:59.08EliveWeb_526032 different things: The USB file says corrupt but the boot hang is using the DVD file on a USB.

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