| 02:13.07 | *** join/#elive Elive_inst_en_22 (~Elive_use@c-98-192-218-170.hsd1.de.comcast.net) |
| 02:13.09 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_en_22! =) I hope you are enjoying the system! |
| 02:13.15 | keyra | You can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :) |
| 06:46.41 | LupusE | hallo, hello, bonjour, ... |
| 06:46.43 | keyra | heudy! |
| 07:00.16 | Naglfar | bonjour LupusE |
| 08:35.54 | LupusE | does all EU countries vote yesterday? or just germany? |
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| 08:42.00 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_ar_20! =) |
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| 11:56.01 | keyra | welcome EliveWeb_84192! Ask your question! Have you see the new amazing forums too? http://forum.elivelinux.org , the are gorgeous! =) |
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| 12:06.42 | jfbourdeau | is away: Elive Linux, Fast and Powerful OS |
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| 12:57.41 | keyra | welcome to Elive, Elive_user_fr_29! =) |
| 12:57.47 | keyra | how is your experience with Elive so far? any suggestion or issue to report us? your feedbacks are important for improve Elive for everybody! try also the new amazing forums! https://forum.elivelinux.org |
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| 13:14.24 | *** join/#elive Thanatermesis (~unknown@185.73.168.16) |
| 13:14.31 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, ping |
| 13:14.47 | Thanatermesis | maybe this chat is faster than forum for installing stuff |
| 13:20.13 | LupusE | his client said he is away since 12:06 |
| 13:20.21 | LupusE | hi Thanatermesis |
| 13:20.58 | Thanatermesis | hi LupusE :) |
| 13:21.01 | keyra | :) |
| 13:22.11 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 13:22.13 | jfbourdeau | am here |
| 13:22.16 | jfbourdeau | is back (gone 01:15:34) |
| 13:22.17 | jfbourdeau | is away: Elive Linux, Fast and Powerful OS |
| 13:22.18 | LupusE | i've got two new laptops (Thinkpad R500 and X200s) to play around ... i'll setup a fixed elive-testenvironemt at the R500 (too big and too heavy (2,9kg) for daily use). |
| 13:22.19 | jfbourdeau | is back (gone 00:00:01) |
| 13:22.48 | jfbourdeau | Thanatermesis, see my last picture on the forum |
| 13:23.23 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, done |
| 13:23.27 | jfbourdeau | that Laptsop windows was " very long " to install so if I can't avoid reinstalling it, it would be cool |
| 13:23.29 | jfbourdeau | LOL |
| 13:23.31 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 13:24.00 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, yes, let's try to get used of this wdinwos install as how it is actually installed :) |
| 13:24.13 | LupusE | what is the topic? was is an open discuss in the forum? |
| 13:24.16 | keyra | https://forum.elivelinux.org |
| 13:24.16 | Thanatermesis | LupusE, which specs R500? |
| 13:24.37 | jfbourdeau | question : whast do I put on the extended ? the UEFI, ELvie Boor and Reiser partition ? |
| 13:25.00 | jfbourdeau | sorry typo |
| 13:25.15 | Thanatermesis | LupusE, yes, trying 3.7.2 and jfbourdeau is trying to install it among with his windows (figuring out how to the part his disk), note: the 3.7.2 uploaded version requires a small hack to make it boot |
| 13:25.47 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, let's try: EFI partition (normal), then extended for the rest of Elive partitions (boot and root) |
| 13:25.57 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 13:26.26 | LupusE | Thanatermesis: Intel core 2 duo T6570 (2,1Ghz), Intel GMA 4500 (not switchable), 15,4" XWGA, 2GB PC3-8500 RAM (will be upgraded ASAP), 250GB/5400rpm hdd (will be changed with a ssd). |
| 13:26.27 | Thanatermesis | so you will have 3 normal + 1 extended (just 4, good :)) |
| 13:27.03 | Thanatermesis | LupusE, sounds good :) an old device not so old |
| 13:27.37 | Thanatermesis | actually im testing the installer in a nettop and yes, the installer is a bit slow... i will try to improve it looking which are the slow steps |
| 13:28.54 | LupusE | the X200s with ssd and 4gigs RAM works better (Ubuntu server) than my T470s (win10) :) |
| 13:28.57 | keyra | :) |
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| 13:30.15 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_fr_29! =) I hope you are enjoying the system! |
| 13:32.29 | jfbourdeau | Thanatermesis, installation in process... Installed told me there was no EFI Partition to create one, so at the next window I pointed installer to the one I created and for now it is installing... We'll see Is it possible I have not been offered encryption ? May be not possible with reiser4 ? |
| 13:32.37 | jfbourdeau | installer told me |
| 13:34.33 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, that encryption asking is for the automatic partitioning, if you want encryption by partitioning yourself you need to create yourself the encryption layer (i have not tested this so could be nice if you test it :), but you can do a next installer later) |
| 13:34.53 | Thanatermesis | basically, choice gnome-disks instead of gparted, on it you can assign encryption to a partition |
| 13:36.01 | jfbourdeau | during the install, it asked me a 2nd times for the EFI partition, when the menu to choose show up, I see nothing but there is an EMPTY Line, I choose the EMPTY Line and it seem to be a choice, just an invisible one LOL and installer continue. |
| 13:37.20 | Thanatermesis | wut? |
| 13:37.39 | Thanatermesis | hum, ill note to betatest it.. |
| 13:37.50 | Thanatermesis | and will read your install reports :) |
| 13:37.52 | keyra | :) |
| 13:42.34 | jfbourdeau | stucked in a loop |
| 13:42.40 | jfbourdeau | sent picture to forum |
| 13:42.48 | jfbourdeau | let me know if I cancel Thanatermesis |
| 13:43.15 | Thanatermesis | ok, the first asking for EFI was not assigning it for to use, thats why problably you got the 2nd time, but it should not have listed you an empty list, hum... anyways improved now |
| 13:43.36 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, you have an opened terminal inside the chroot |
| 13:43.38 | Thanatermesis | just close |
| 13:43.41 | Thanatermesis | just close it |
| 13:43.47 | jfbourdeau | not me |
| 13:43.50 | jfbourdeau | the installer |
| 13:44.29 | Thanatermesis | yep |
| 13:44.32 | Thanatermesis | fixed now too :) |
| 13:44.34 | keyra | :) |
| 13:44.37 | Thanatermesis | it was a temporal code from me to do tests |
| 13:44.42 | Thanatermesis | just close it and it will continue |
| 13:44.56 | jfbourdeau | yes it did |
| 13:45.45 | Thanatermesis | im confused about the state of your EFI, but let's just finish this install and see if works :) |
| 13:46.10 | jfbourdeau | yea probably not a good test as window itslef was not able to boot normaly :-( |
| 13:46.25 | Thanatermesis | already rebooted? |
| 13:46.51 | jfbourdeau | trying now |
| 13:47.35 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, did you booted this Live using UEFI in your bios (not legacy)? |
| 13:47.47 | keyra | use "usb-bootable-elive" tool to automatically download and record your USB with Elive. If you are in other Linux* use "dd" from a terminal or the Usb-ImageWriter tool, if you are in Windows use UsbWriter, please do not use other tools than the suggested ones |
| 13:49.05 | jfbourdeau | At the time of the install " not sure" There was 2 legacy option and I think was left activated at the time of the install |
| 13:50.38 | Thanatermesis | you should from now entirely disable any "legacy" option in the bios, to boot always in UEFI |
| 13:50.43 | jfbourdeau | ok same problem. I need to choose at boot, throu F + something PC feature the HardDisk of the PC else it can't reach elive menu to boo |
| 13:50.45 | jfbourdeau | boot |
| 13:50.49 | Thanatermesis | so maybe this grub error was due because of that |
| 13:50.53 | keyra | we had encounter problems that stayed for months because nobody reported them before, so please report any problem that you can see, they are very important for us to know: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 13:50.56 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 13:51.07 | jfbourdeau | even if it is long ! and painfull, I will reinstall Window correctly |
| 13:51.13 | jfbourdeau | best thing to do... |
| 13:51.13 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, no, wait |
| 13:51.16 | jfbourdeau | opk |
| 13:51.21 | Thanatermesis | lets try to make it working first :) |
| 13:51.23 | keyra | :) |
| 13:51.35 | Thanatermesis | just to see if windows can boot using UEFI (by not having been installed in UEFI in a first time) |
| 13:51.35 | jfbourdeau | ELive can boot but if I manually choose the HArdDisk |
| 13:51.45 | Thanatermesis | reinstalling windows will be the last option, reinstall Elive is much faster too lol |
| 13:51.52 | jfbourdeau | windows does not show up in the elive menbu |
| 13:52.04 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, do you have other disks on this machine? |
| 13:52.08 | jfbourdeau | one |
| 13:52.26 | Thanatermesis | mmmh, so the computer doesn't automatically try to boot from the unique hard disk? |
| 13:52.54 | jfbourdeau | nope...Going into the bios now to check everything |
| 13:55.40 | Thanatermesis | this is strange, if you don't have the usb plugged it should directly boot from your hard disk |
| 13:55.48 | Thanatermesis | sounds to me like your HD is not in your boot list in your bios |
| 13:56.00 | keyra | use "usb-bootable-elive" tool to automatically download and record your USB with Elive. If you are in other Linux* use "dd" from a terminal or the Usb-ImageWriter tool, if you are in Windows use UsbWriter, please do not use other tools than the suggested ones |
| 13:56.02 | Thanatermesis | otherwise, it should not boot *also* by manually selecting it |
| 13:56.08 | Thanatermesis | ok, check all these bios settings :) |
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| 13:58.09 | jfbourdeau | ok... There 2 options abvout legacy, the main offical one was off. But, there as another saying that in UEFI mod, if I want to access legacy defice to enable it.. IF I don't do, I didn't see my USB stick |
| 13:58.31 | Rebel450 | coucou |
| 13:58.40 | jfbourdeau | coucou Rebel450 |
| 13:59.03 | Thanatermesis | hi Rebel450 :) |
| 13:59.05 | keyra | :) |
| 13:59.21 | Rebel450 | am on droid |
| 13:59.21 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, so... making the bios to only accept UEFI doesn't boots the usb of 3.7.2? (it should be) |
| 13:59.29 | jfbourdeau | from here Thanatermesis do you think I should try to 1st install WIndow correctly to not make you loose time relating my weird problem, related to my specific Laptop that may not apply to others ? |
| 13:59.38 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, also check that your hard disk is set in your bios boot order list |
| 13:59.45 | jfbourdeau | yes (for your usb UEFI question) |
| 14:00.09 | jfbourdeau | going back in the BIOS |
| 14:00.10 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, not for now, we will continue trying install Elive this way |
| 14:00.39 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, did you enabled reports? i didn't received them (internet is required before to install) |
| 14:00.42 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 14:01.30 | jfbourdeau | yes I enabled report |
| 14:02.56 | Rebel450 | am at the doctors waiting room, bored... so am watching your actions ð |
| 14:05.09 | Thanatermesis | ok let me restart again the daemon in the server... i dont know why it sometimes fails |
| 14:05.56 | Thanatermesis | Rebel450, much action here :) |
| 14:05.58 | keyra | :) |
| 14:06.02 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, ok so, whats next? im lost lol |
| 14:06.34 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, enable UEFI-only in bios, add HD in your default boot list, run again elive, connect to internet, run install (with its own update), and try to run the same install |
| 14:06.44 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 14:07.39 | jfbourdeau | ok. THe bios is weird, in UEFO mode i can't choose boot order of device... And I'Ll see in a minute, if I am not wrong, in UEFI mode, I can't access the usb stick ! we'll see trying again |
| 14:07.52 | keyra | use "usb-bootable-elive" tool to automatically download and record your USB with Elive. If you are in other Linux* use "dd" from a terminal or the Usb-ImageWriter tool, if you are in Windows use UsbWriter, please do not use other tools than the suggested ones |
| 14:07.55 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 14:09.33 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, hum, so the bios just try's to boot from what he sees, and it should search for the USB if you have it in your bios boot-order list |
| 14:11.51 | jfbourdeau | you are right... not patient enough ! when pressing F something in UEFI mode, didn't saw the stick so took for granted there was a problem |
| 14:12.00 | keyra | thanks for reporting the issue, by knowing it we can solve the problem for you and for everybody else affected, please use the BTS for that: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 14:12.02 | jfbourdeau | so I was enabling some option to see it |
| 14:12.13 | jfbourdeau | but now, in UEFI, waited and it did booted with the USB stick |
| 14:12.36 | Thanatermesis | good! |
| 14:12.51 | Thanatermesis | a simle way to know if you booted in uefi is by checking the Elive boot menu |
| 14:13.03 | Thanatermesis | if non-uefy mode (legacy), the menu looks like the old ones |
| 14:13.21 | Thanatermesis | if booting in uefi, the menu looks with smaller fonts (because is using grub menu instead the syslinux one) |
| 14:13.33 | Thanatermesis | + on which you need to remvoe the "findiso" entry |
| 14:14.23 | Thanatermesis | another way to know it is by running "sudo efibootmgr" and see if shows info, try this after to boot Live, jfbourdeau |
| 14:14.36 | Thanatermesis | before to install* |
| 14:15.16 | Rebel450 | super, I've got an ear infection, suspended from Work... |
| 14:15.25 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 14:16.03 | jfbourdeau | sorry Rebel450 Here in Canada we would cut the ear |
| 14:16.17 | jfbourdeau | Thanatermesis, yes I am in uefi and your command confirmed it |
| 14:16.28 | Thanatermesis | perfect! :) |
| 14:16.31 | keyra | :) |
| 14:16.42 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, enable UEFI-only in bios, add HD in your default boot list, run again elive, connect to internet, run install (with its own update), and try to run the same install |
| 14:16.47 | Thanatermesis | so lets continue :) ^ |
| 14:16.52 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 14:17.28 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, also, you can now try to encrypt yourself the disk (or you can try it with a next install) |
| 14:17.29 | jfbourdeau | when is ask for the swwp |
| 14:17.35 | jfbourdeau | I click cancel and continue ? |
| 14:17.46 | jfbourdeau | or OK and continue ? without choosing anything |
| 14:18.28 | jfbourdeau | about the ecnryption, I choose manual Partition alreayd created but where and when would I deal with encryption ? |
| 14:18.32 | Thanatermesis | cancel, we dont want swap :) |
| 14:18.51 | jfbourdeau | did I missed something ? about the option to encrypt, when in manual mode ? |
| 14:19.08 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, using the other partitioner: RAID, LVM and ENCRYPTED options, advanced tools |
| 14:19.37 | jfbourdeau | ok too complicated for me for now... not sur to get it, if before, during or after install LOL |
| 14:19.49 | jfbourdeau | will continue with installion, reiser4 without encryption for this test |
| 14:20.05 | Thanatermesis | ok |
| 14:20.17 | jfbourdeau | it is not asking for EFIO partition, I am choose the empty line |
| 14:20.21 | jfbourdeau | efi |
| 14:20.30 | Thanatermesis | in short: you select the partitioner, gparted is different than gnome-disks (RAID, LVM and ENCRYPTED options, advanced tools), the second one allows you to enable encryption for your future partition |
| 14:20.45 | jfbourdeau | I am something confused about elive asking about EFI and the screen after talking about UEFI |
| 14:20.50 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, maybe it autodetected it |
| 14:21.08 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> I am something confused about elive asking about EFI and the screen after talking about UEFI |
| 14:21.11 | Thanatermesis | now? which message? |
| 14:21.24 | Thanatermesis | if EFI partition is detected, should be not messsages (simply using it) |
| 14:21.57 | jfbourdeau | is asked for the EFI partition and I selected it.. THen offered me if I wanted to add a Home partition, I said no ( this is may be here I could have choose an ecrypted partition) |
| 14:22.02 | jfbourdeau | now installing |
| 14:23.42 | Thanatermesis | ok, sounds good |
| 14:24.03 | Thanatermesis | well, we are testing now, you can do a new installation later with optimal setup &/encryption |
| 14:30.06 | jfbourdeau | ok error (sur because of my weird install) : Gru reported problem, failed to regiester EFI boot entry, cannont find GRUB D rive for /dev/sdb1 |
| 14:30.07 | Thanatermesis | the installer may include more questions now (if not autoparted) but they are meant to be for having a more guided to a more correct install |
| 14:30.09 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 14:30.12 | jfbourdeau | short verison of the message |
| 14:30.24 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, screenshot? |
| 14:30.32 | keyra | use the "impr sys" key of your keyboard to take a screenshot, you can also share it with the obtained web link! |
| 14:31.00 | jfbourdeau | done |
| 14:31.22 | Thanatermesis | mmh which partition is sdb1 |
| 14:31.23 | Thanatermesis | ? |
| 14:31.29 | jfbourdeau | I said ok , installed completed, now rebooting |
| 14:31.40 | jfbourdeau | WOW ! |
| 14:31.42 | keyra | woooha! |
| 14:31.53 | jfbourdeau | it boot normaly, elive menu but no windows |
| 14:32.15 | jfbourdeau | pretty sure if my window was installed properly and booting we would be ok |
| 14:32.40 | Thanatermesis | i received your reports this time! let me read them... |
| 14:33.15 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, you booted your installed elive? |
| 14:33.28 | jfbourdeau | yep |
| 14:33.38 | jfbourdeau | windows was not on the list but elive booted properly |
| 14:33.44 | Thanatermesis | it is running in efi mode? (sudo efibootmgr) |
| 14:34.07 | jfbourdeau | yes |
| 14:34.18 | Thanatermesis | ok, give me a minute i read your reports... |
| 14:41.15 | Thanatermesis | seems like i need to improve the detection of existing EFI partitions, was not detecting it correctly... |
| 14:43.52 | jfbourdeau | so it's not my messed up installation that could not boot windows properly before I installed elive ? |
| 14:44.32 | jfbourdeau | waht would be usefull to you, that I reinstall windows clean ( long.....) or it's not needed ? |
| 14:45.01 | jfbourdeau | 1) let me know if we can now or later will be able to make WInsows visible in the Elive boot menu choiced ? and |
| 14:45.28 | jfbourdeau | 2) the encryption thing, You lost me.. how do I need to proceed to encrypt my reiser4 partition... |
| 14:45.46 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> so it's not my messed up installation that could not boot windows properly before I installed elive ? |
| 14:45.50 | Thanatermesis | not sure, you could probably boot it |
| 14:45.58 | Thanatermesis | but we will need to perform a different install for that |
| 14:46.06 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> waht would be usefull to you, that I reinstall windows clean ( long.....) or it's not needed ? |
| 14:46.13 | Thanatermesis | not yet, we will try to make it working |
| 14:46.17 | jfbourdeau | k |
| 14:46.28 | Thanatermesis | but let me fix what I have seen in the installer and we will do another test |
| 14:46.51 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> 2) the encryption thing, You lost me.. how do I need to proceed to encrypt my reiser4 partition... |
| 14:47.06 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 14:47.07 | Thanatermesis | in the partitioner step, dont select gparted, select the other option (i improved its name now) |
| 14:47.47 | Thanatermesis | actual issue: your EFI partition was wrongly detected, and also reported an issue in grub, im improving it now.. |
| 14:47.53 | jfbourdeau | will wait for the next install...LEt me know when ready... As for my Desktop ( 2 disks, 1 Manjaro the other enlive) I will be able to do that tonight |
| 14:48.17 | Thanatermesis | yes, wait that i fix what i have seen and we will try again :) |
| 14:48.20 | keyra | :) |
| 14:48.29 | Thanatermesis | for desktop, let's wait first to make this machine fully working |
| 14:52.06 | Thanatermesis | damn, these lot of different combinations "bios / disks / efi / mbr / bios" needs a lot of code combination cases lol |
| 14:52.39 | Thanatermesis | what happend for you is that your disk was in msdos and not gpt, and fdisk & gdisk is reporting different results when searching for efi partitions lol |
| 14:52.55 | Thanatermesis | fortunately i have the exact data i need to search in the installer reports :) |
| 14:53.10 | jfbourdeau | LOL |
| 14:53.53 | jfbourdeau | my scenario is not common... but still, other could mess up their installation like I did may be |
| 14:54.23 | Thanatermesis | yep, thats why i need to fix all the possibilities :) |
| 14:54.25 | keyra | :) |
| 14:54.29 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, can you show me the result of this?: |
| 14:54.45 | Thanatermesis | sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 14:56.29 | jfbourdeau | picture ok ?< |
| 14:57.35 | Thanatermesis | yep |
| 14:57.37 | jfbourdeau | done |
| 15:10.26 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, have you important data on the hard disk that you dont want to lose? |
| 15:10.46 | jfbourdeau | nope Fresh WINdow 7 install and I have an image of it |
| 15:11.09 | jfbourdeau | takes 5 minute to restor with clonezilla and fast usb stick |
| 15:11.46 | jfbourdeau | it was so long to install and patch and update I took an image LOL before doing elive test on it |
| 15:11.55 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 15:13.16 | *** join/#elive Elive_inst_et_48 (~Elive_use@146.255.181.228) |
| 15:13.18 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_et_48! =) I hope you are enjoying the system! |
| 15:13.24 | keyra | You can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :) |
| 15:15.33 | Rebel450 | Hey Than... |
| 15:16.07 | jfbourdeau | Rebel450, when you type a name here, in case you don't know, you can type the frist few letter then tab to automplete |
| 15:16.27 | jfbourdeau | and it the person has setup his Chat client do to so, it will BIP BING when you say their name |
| 15:16.32 | Rebel450 | you supposed to give Job Orders.. |
| 15:16.34 | jfbourdeau | so they know someone it talking to them |
| 15:16.38 | Rebel450 | ok |
| 15:16.58 | Rebel450 | but am stll in Android |
| 15:17.18 | jfbourdeau | something we leave the chat opened but do not read.. so if someone type our name, we hear a BING :-) |
| 15:17.35 | Rebel450 | "yaaic" |
| 15:17.46 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> takes 5 minute to restor with clonezilla and fast usb stick |
| 15:17.48 | Thanatermesis | perfect :) |
| 15:17.51 | keyra | :) |
| 15:18.10 | Thanatermesis | i said that because seems like it cannot be fully supported the EFI thingy, we need to convert your disk to GPT, and i think that this can be done auto ! |
| 15:18.26 | jfbourdeau | I bout an expensive SAnDisk USB 3.1 Stick, and the laptop is SSD so it 's very fast to do stuff |
| 15:18.31 | Thanatermesis | so let me finish to implement this in the installer and we will try.. |
| 15:18.39 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 15:18.45 | jfbourdeau | bought sorry typo !! |
| 15:19.24 | Thanatermesis | sounds good :) which usb? |
| 15:19.28 | Rebel450 | Tha |
| 15:19.31 | Thanatermesis | model* |
| 15:19.33 | Thanatermesis | yo |
| 15:19.50 | jfbourdeau | Extreme Pro USB 3.1 |
| 15:19.53 | Rebel450 | lol where is Tab on Android? lol |
| 15:20.02 | jfbourdeau | 128 GB |
| 15:20.04 | Thanatermesis | sounds like a very fast one :) |
| 15:20.55 | jfbourdeau | Write Speed up to 380MB/s |
| 15:20.58 | Rebel450 | Thanatermesis don't forget my Job Orders for tonite!!! |
| 15:21.04 | jfbourdeau | Read up to 420MB/s |
| 15:21.15 | Thanatermesis | confused about job orders from Rebel450 |
| 15:21.19 | jfbourdeau | LOL Rebel450 |
| 15:21.29 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, wow, thats almost same speed as the internal SSD lol |
| 15:21.31 | keyra | woooha! |
| 15:21.32 | jfbourdeau | I have a wife for giving me job order... |
| 15:21.54 | Rebel450 | äähhhh FOR me, of course 𤣠|
| 15:22.43 | Thanatermesis | yuck, the installer installed you all the thunderbird language packages jfbourdeau lol, you only need the one for your language... let me check that too.. |
| 15:22.58 | jfbourdeau | she told me 2 bottle of wine per week is too much.Â. I said I am open to meet a specialist anytime with here to get a confirmation of that statement !! |
| 15:23.01 | Rebel450 | 372 ready? or am still doin it with 371? |
| 15:23.08 | Thanatermesis | fixed :) |
| 15:23.11 | keyra | :) |
| 15:23.37 | jfbourdeau | ok Thanatermesis Make sense.... THunderbird was displaying several lines during installation LOL |
| 15:24.00 | Rebel450 | cu on Forum then, ok |
| 15:24.11 | jfbourdeau | Rebel450, |
| 15:24.35 | jfbourdeau | I think I am one of the 1st to try 372 and then is fixing some little glitches that will make your experience better |
| 15:24.48 | Rebel450 | ok |
| 15:24.51 | jfbourdeau | :-) |
| 15:25.10 | jfbourdeau | I work from home and not busy, I've got all day to do tests LOL |
| 15:25.12 | Rebel450 | have to Go now ð |
| 15:25.16 | jfbourdeau | bye |
| 15:25.56 | Thanatermesis | grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/sdb1. Check your device.map. |
| 15:26.01 | Thanatermesis | hum, |
| 15:26.20 | Thanatermesis | this has been caused because your EFI partition was detected to be from the USB of Elive (and thats wrong) |
| 15:26.32 | Thanatermesis | i assume that since i improved the EFI partition detection it should work now |
| 15:26.35 | Thanatermesis | so let's se.. |
| 15:26.44 | Thanatermesis | now, let me check that gpt converting thingy.... |
| 15:27.04 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 15:33.18 | Thanatermesis | good! seems like we can convert without destroying data :) lol |
| 15:34.05 | jfbourdeau | LO |
| 15:34.07 | jfbourdeau | LOL |
| 15:34.16 | jfbourdeau | it's ready ? |
| 15:35.08 | LupusE | last monday we've (company) got an infeciorn. after 4h everything was okay ... and the politics (explaination, documentation, calm down of the coworkers) goes until this week. why it is so hard to understand why malware isn't just 'delete and good'? |
| 15:36.25 | Thanatermesis | not yet, im adding it to the installer now |
| 15:37.04 | Thanatermesis | LupusE, windows? |
| 15:37.25 | jfbourdeau | LupusE, I am not sure to understand... So now it is ok ? |
| 15:37.29 | Thanatermesis | LupusE, these are good opportunities to make them understand how important (and good) is to switch to linux :) |
| 15:37.31 | jfbourdeau | I am sur it,S windows LOL |
| 15:37.32 | keyra | :) |
| 15:37.40 | LupusE | Thanatermesis: at work, yes. microsoft macros wasn't blocked by GPO :/ |
| 15:37.42 | keyra | :| |
| 15:38.09 | jfbourdeau | in my business I talk often to IT consultant and so many of them deal with infected networks, encrypted network (ransomware) ans so on... |
| 15:38.41 | LupusE | Thanatermesis: if you make our measurment equipment and programming interfaces work in elive, I'll switch today :) but some of the systems don't work under windows 10, either. |
| 15:38.44 | jfbourdeau | Lupuse if they want a good AntiSpam provider for their email think of me. If you want to resell my AntiSpam service, let me know |
| 15:38.53 | jfbourdeau | my largest customer has 20,000 mailboxes |
| 15:39.21 | jfbourdeau | Are you WIndows 7 LupusE ??? |
| 15:39.35 | LupusE | on 3 of 34 systems, jes. |
| 15:39.37 | LupusE | yes |
| 15:39.43 | jfbourdeau | what is it about support that ended at the begining of the year ? |
| 15:39.51 | jfbourdeau | you can pay and still get patches and support ? |
| 15:40.03 | LupusE | no, the systems are offline. |
| 15:40.09 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 15:40.19 | LupusE | but we need them because of the 3d-scanners linked to them. |
| 15:41.13 | LupusE | and the vendor could not provide an update, so we've needed to order new. i'm waiting for new scanners since december. |
| 15:41.33 | jfbourdeau | wow |
| 15:41.36 | keyra | woooha! |
| 15:41.42 | LupusE | and af cource, we are working in healthcare, so we can't use any 3d scanner, it has to be a special one. |
| 15:42.56 | LupusE | i ma afraid a friend of mine got the same problem and orderes 200 scanner at the end of last year, so the vendor is out of stock. but nobody is telling me detailes. |
| 15:44.16 | Thanatermesis | adding message: Do you want to convert your hard disk table from MSDOS to the new GPT? This is a delicate upgrade operation and if you have any important data you MUST backup it before we proceed. |
| 15:44.29 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 15:44.49 | Thanatermesis | <LupusE> Thanatermesis: if you make our measurment equipment and programming interfaces work in elive, I'll switch today :) but some of the systems don't work under windows 10, either. |
| 15:44.57 | Thanatermesis | which are the requirements ? |
| 15:45.02 | Thanatermesis | works with wine? |
| 15:45.15 | Thanatermesis | (new wine from 3.7.x of course) |
| 15:45.53 | LupusE | no. wine isn't working. |
| 15:46.31 | LupusE | the main requirement is to support NOAH (a interface from himsa to support all hearing aid manufacrurers) |
| 15:47.26 | LupusE | but even if you could run a HIMSA database and the services, than you'll need to get the very very crappy vendor-modules work. |
| 15:47.51 | LupusE | it is mostly .net, some c# and some voodoo. |
| 15:48.17 | LupusE | even cobol code is still seen (list and label engines). |
| 15:49.04 | Thanatermesis | damn |
| 15:49.20 | LupusE | in 2008 I've bought a 'aurical'. a hearing-aid and ear measurement device. these days I've wrote some drivers and get some tones. |
| 15:49.22 | Thanatermesis | you can say to your bosses that their company is doomed lol |
| 15:49.36 | jfbourdeau | LOL |
| 15:49.57 | LupusE | the whole business is doomed. but the monney is flowing and the marketing is strong. but nothing is reliable. |
| 15:50.19 | Thanatermesis | LupusE, what about: using linux in all people pc's and connecting to a remote windows machine to use these services? like a network connection with graphical access, of course the windows machine not connected to internet, only local shared with their linuxes |
| 15:50.50 | Thanatermesis | <LupusE> the whole business is doomed. but the monney is flowing and the marketing is strong. but nothing is reliable. |
| 15:51.26 | LupusE | too slow. HA are embedded devices. every test I know with thinclients and outsouced power is too slow. |
| 15:51.27 | Thanatermesis | that sounds like how works our capitalist social system :) |
| 15:51.29 | keyra | :) |
| 15:51.56 | LupusE | on one side we are not able to programm the devices in realtime, on the other hand, the measurement won't work. |
| 15:52.56 | LupusE | sound is nearly as fast as the signal at the wire. |
| 15:54.02 | LupusE | soundgenerator - D/A - AMP - Speaker - earreflection - Microphone - A/D - signalprocessor. |
| 15:54.34 | LupusE | if you put the intelligence far away, the signal won't be the same. |
| 15:56.01 | LupusE | so, now i have to go home and cry myself into sleep ... |
| 15:56.21 | jfbourdeau | :-) LupusE |
| 15:56.54 | LupusE | but I already have three jobs in sight. maybe i won't nneed to handle this crap so long. |
| 15:59.49 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, i will take a bit more of time, let me test first if i can convert successfully a msdos-type install and then to gpt on a vbox machine |
| 16:00.21 | jfbourdeau | as you want I don't care messing up my Laptop as it take 5 minutes to restore but no rush |
| 16:01.06 | Thanatermesis | yeah but may be faster for me to test -> check -> fix -> retest.. |
| 16:01.14 | jfbourdeau | ok no stress |
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| 16:02.35 | Eduardo-AR | hola algun ser vivo por aqui |
| 16:02.37 | keyra | que tal ? |
| 16:02.52 | Eduardo-AR | tu siempre dices que tal |
| 16:03.05 | Eduardo-AR | eres no humano |
| 16:03.18 | Thanatermesis | hola Eduardo-AR |
| 16:04.11 | Eduardo-AR | hola estoy muy contento con elive anda perfecto en my vieja pc |
| 16:05.31 | Eduardo-AR | un AMD LE 1250 con 2 giga de ram |
| 16:05.40 | jfbourdeau | cool |
| 16:06.01 | Eduardo-AR | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.09 | jfbourdeau | ¡Elive ganó una segunda vida a 2 de mi PC también! |
| 16:07.51 | Eduardo-AR | voy a probarlo en un amd duro y athlon viejitos que tengo que buscar en my estoc de viejas pc jejeje |
| 16:08.05 | jfbourdeau | I use Elive 32 bits on an old old acer Latop and Elive 64 bits that we are presently we're testing is making my SLow HP 32 GB SSD 2 GB RAM wrok very well |
| 16:08.13 | keyra | elive is 32 bit, 64bits will be included after the release of 3.0, or you can run 64 bit executables too like this: http://forum.elivecd.org/read.php?58,8936,8957#msg-8957 |
| 16:08.13 | jfbourdeau | Utilizo Elive 32 bits en un antiguo acer Latop y Elive 64 bits que actualmente estamos probando está haciendo que mi SLow HP 32 GB SSD 2 GB RAM funcione muy bien |
| 16:08.17 | Eduardo-AR | no te voy a decir una XT o una 386 por que seguro nunca las viste jajaj |
| 16:09.03 | jfbourdeau | perdón por la calidad de mi "traductor de google" spanigh |
| 16:09.28 | Eduardo-AR | ok perdon por no saber escribir en ingles |
| 16:10.08 | jfbourdeau | En cuanto a tu "XT o un 386" Tengo 51 años, vi más cosas que podrÃas pensar. ! Incluso operé / corrà una BBS en los viejos tiempos |
| 16:11.10 | Thanatermesis | my first RAM upgrade was to 1 MB in my old i386... and it was a lot of money! lol |
| 16:11.21 | jfbourdeau | LOL |
| 16:11.24 | Eduardo-AR | somos una generacion de pc demasiado lentas compañero jejej |
| 16:11.38 | jfbourdeau | When I had a Macintoh, I bouth a 20 MB Hard Drive for 2000$ |
| 16:11.40 | Thanatermesis | then, windows 3.11 appeared and messed everything... needed to buy an entire HD just for it, then a new computer... |
| 16:12.20 | Thanatermesis | do you know how windows monopolized here? you had "computer magazines" with demos and games and software... everytime more and more of them you could't install on MSDOS because "it requires windows" fuck |
| 16:12.26 | jfbourdeau | SO I had / owned all the first version of macintosh, COmmodore, Amiga.. P:layed with Windows 3.11, and above |
| 16:12.26 | keyra | use from terminal 'apse keyword', 'api something' to install it, or use the graphical package manager |
| 16:12.27 | Eduardo-AR | esos malditos diskets de 51/4 |
| 16:12.53 | Thanatermesis | Eduardo-AR, yeah, they never worked correctly :) always broken lol |
| 16:12.57 | jfbourdeau | JaJaJa Eduardo-AR |
| 16:13.03 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, unfortunately mac was not even known in europe at these times |
| 16:13.06 | Eduardo-AR | monitos ambar y verde como matrix jejeje |
| 16:13.35 | jfbourdeau | When I was young I programmed in BASIC THe Tron Movie game " Motocycle thing" on my Vic-20 |
| 16:13.44 | jfbourdeau | one player was using the joystick the other one the keyboard |
| 16:14.02 | Eduardo-AR | sorry i{am no speack ingish |
| 16:14.45 | jfbourdeau | lo siento cambiamos a ingles ... no somos educados |
| 16:15.36 | Thanatermesis | TRON in basic? wow |
| 16:15.38 | keyra | woooha! |
| 16:15.38 | Eduardo-AR | ok sorry |
| 16:16.06 | Thanatermesis | keyra, hablas spanish? :) |
| 16:16.08 | keyra | :) |
| 16:16.14 | Thanatermesis | si.. |
| 16:16.24 | jfbourdeau | yea when motorcyle were runging, the sound was starting lower and when both player were always turning, the " sound " result was funny |
| 16:16.28 | keyra | see! a zoidberg in a single line! (\/) (°,,,°) (\/) |
| 16:17.00 | jfbourdeau | Ahora hablaré sin traductor: |
| 16:17.02 | Eduardo-AR | una pregunta en español puedo hacer |
| 16:17.17 | jfbourdeau | me nombre es Jean-Francois (JF) tango treis hijos |
| 16:17.35 | jfbourdeau | hablo y entido en espangol un porquito JaJaja |
| 16:17.52 | jfbourdeau | no google :-) |
| 16:18.00 | Eduardo-AR | tre luces en el alma que nunca se apagaran afortunado ser lo felicito |
| 16:18.50 | Thanatermesis | Eduardo-AR, que pregunta? :) |
| 16:19.12 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, usaste disquettes 5/4" para reproducir el sonido de los motores? :)) |
| 16:19.22 | Thanatermesis | as speaker device |
| 16:19.55 | jfbourdeau | JaJaJa Thanatermesis |
| 16:22.00 | Eduardo-AR | perdon como corrijo la hora sin usas date -s xx:xx por que se auto corrige y adelanta 3 horas con respecto a mi hora real |
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| 16:23.00 | jfbourdeau | Mudarse a otro paÃs para que el tiempo sea correcto. Esa es la forma más sencilla de arreglar esto. |
| 16:23.07 | jfbourdeau | :-D |
| 16:23.40 | jfbourdeau | Thanatermesis te responderá. |
| 16:23.48 | Eduardo-AR | bueno es una solucion valida jejeje |
| 16:24.18 | Thanatermesis | Eduardo-AR, tienes windows instalado? |
| 16:24.36 | Thanatermesis | en la misma maquina |
| 16:25.03 | Eduardo-AR | en una particion tiene w7 por no perder videos y algunas cositas |
| 16:25.03 | Rebel450 | seriously - espanol now ? |
| 16:25.29 | Eduardo-AR | si tiene w7 y elive |
| 16:25.40 | *** part/#elive Rebel450 (~tux@92.206.204.70) |
| 16:25.48 | Thanatermesis | Eduardo-AR, aha, ese es el problema |
| 16:25.54 | Thanatermesis | es dificil manejar ambos a la vez, mmh.. |
| 16:25.54 | jfbourdeau | Rebel450, I speak spanish a little bit but using Google Translate LOL but than does speak spanish, his 1st language |
| 16:26.26 | Eduardo-AR | ok pero me cambia la hora en la bios |
| 16:26.29 | Thanatermesis | ~ â¯â¯â¯ cat /etc/elive-tools/geolocation/timezones.conf |
| 16:26.32 | Thanatermesis | muestrame eso, Eduardo-AR |
| 16:27.28 | Eduardo-AR | momento que soy lento |
| 16:29.13 | Eduardo-AR | bios mode:::LOCAL |
| 16:29.14 | Eduardo-AR | a4:08:f5:1d:a4:5c:::America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires:::wlan0 |
| 16:29.14 | Eduardo-AR | last:::America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires |
| 16:30.54 | Eduardo-AR | cambio la hora en el bios pongo la hora correcta y el reojito al segundo de iniciar cambia la hora y adelanta 3 hs |
| 16:31.09 | Thanatermesis | vale, prueba de cambiar LOCAL por UTC |
| 16:31.14 | Thanatermesis | y reinicia a ver que suced |
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| 16:31.28 | Eduardo-AR | ok ya pruebo |
| 16:31.37 | Eduardo-AR | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.10 | Rebel450 | coucou am on Computer now... |
| 16:33.50 | Thanatermesis | \o/ Rebel450 |
| 16:34.14 | Rebel450 | Thanatermesis: where is ma todo list ... |
| 16:36.38 | *** mode/#elive [+o jfbourdeau] by ChanServ |
| 16:38.18 | Thanatermesis | Rebel450, did you send me something to the forum? i have not read yet all the today's notifications :) |
| 16:38.21 | keyra | :) |
| 16:38.35 | Thanatermesis | im checking them everytime i found a few free seconds while waiting processes |
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| 16:40.39 | Eduardo-AR | lamento informar que no funciono paso a relatar |
| 16:40.41 | Rebel450 | you wanted to check if I should repeat the lately misled install > ext4/aut/auto/ Nvidia yes/no but with 372 ? or still 371 The failure was on 370 |
| 16:41.53 | Rebel450 | Thanatermesis: you wanted to check if I should repeat the lately misled install > ext4/auto/auto/ - Nvidia yes/no but with 372 ? or still 371? The failure occured on 370... |
| 16:41.57 | Eduardo-AR | reinicie entro al bios pongo 13:38 salvo reinicio arranca elive con la hora correcta y al los segundos cambia la hora a 16:38 adelanta 3 horas |
| 16:44.10 | Eduardo-AR | mi solucion abro terminal su date -s hora correcta |
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| 16:48.49 | Thanatermesis | Rebel450, oh, so it worked correctly that install in 3.7.1? |
| 16:49.29 | Thanatermesis | Eduardo-AR, ahora lanza: sudo EL_DEBUG=3 /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/timezone-update wlan0 up -f |
| 16:49.49 | Thanatermesis | eso te pondra la hora bien, entonces reinicia y mira si sigue bien (sin entrar en la bios, no la cambies ahi) |
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| 16:52.50 | Eduardo-AR | listo ya estoy probando |
| 16:57.05 | Eduardo-AR | reinicio |
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| 17:03.08 | jfbourdeau | is away: Elive Linux, Fast and Powerful OS |
| 17:05.35 | Eduardo-AR | bueno no lo quiero incomodar con este problema aparentenete mi tienpo en elive es un tiempo a futuro exactamente 3 horas soy un adelantado temporal jejej |
| 17:05.44 | keyra | we had encounter problems that stayed for months because nobody reported them before, so please report any problem that you can see, they are very important for us to know: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 17:06.05 | Eduardo-AR | ok sorry |
| 17:07.49 | jfbourdeau | Eduardo, Keyra es un bot (no persona real) |
| 17:07.51 | keyra | you think so? |
| 17:07.53 | jfbourdeau | is back (gone 00:04:45) |
| 17:09.07 | jfbourdeau | is away: Elive Linux, Fast and Powerful OS |
| 17:09.18 | Eduardo-AR | si pero no se cansa de retarme jeje no quiero un bot en mi contra quien sabe que podria sucedermew jejje |
| 17:09.46 | jfbourdeau | JaJaJa |
| 17:10.56 | Eduardo-AR | Keyra Sorry for not writing in English my native language is Spanish and my English is very basic and rudimentary my teachers said jaguaryu jeje |
| 17:10.59 | keyra | np :) |
| 17:11.15 | jfbourdeau | :-) |
| 17:12.24 | Thanatermesis | lol smart bot |
| 17:17.11 | Eduardo-AR | Tanatermesis no funciono la geolocalizacion es correcta pero aparentemente 3 hs adelantada |
| 17:17.58 | Rebel450 | Thanatermesis: Look -> Thanatermesis: Rebel450, oh, so it worked correctly that install in 3.7.1? |
| 17:18.18 | Rebel450 | Thanatermesis: dunno, did not try. |
| 17:18.55 | Eduardo-AR | igualmente es un gusto y grato placer haber tenido su atencion y predispocicion, su proyecto ELIVE esta de lujo |
| 17:20.30 | Rebel450 | Thanatermesis: ... because you said: wit - may be we are doing it with 372 then, will tell you if ready... SO ?? |
| 17:21.06 | Eduardo-AR | a love you Keyra lo nuetro es imposible sorry |
| 17:21.08 | keyra | np :) |
| 17:21.36 | Eduardo-AR | lose lose imposible :) |
| 17:21.39 | keyra | :) |
| 17:22.00 | Thanatermesis | <Rebel450> Thanatermesis: dunno, did not try. |
| 17:22.05 | Thanatermesis | well, let's try with 3.7.3 then :) |
| 17:22.26 | Thanatermesis | gracias Eduardo-AR :) |
| 17:22.41 | Thanatermesis | el tema de la hora es un poco dificil, pero prueba de borrar el fichero qeu te dije, osea... el otro |
| 17:23.14 | Eduardo-AR | ok |
| 17:23.22 | Thanatermesis | sudo rm /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/timezone-update |
| 17:23.39 | Thanatermesis | Eduardo-AR, de esta forma ya no te la actualizara y siempre usarla la misma qu ele pongas en la bios |
| 17:23.52 | Thanatermesis | ese es el que se encarga de cambiarla |
| 17:24.31 | Eduardo-AR | listo asi sera palabra de Dios |
| 17:26.30 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 17:26.46 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, fortunately im doing these tests.... lol so many hard disks broken trying to convert it ! |
| 17:27.07 | Thanatermesis | i mean, broken data states :) |
| 17:27.10 | keyra | :) |
| 17:28.42 | jfbourdeau | ok Thanatermesis |
| 17:29.20 | jfbourdeau | let me know when ready. I supppose lauching the update on 3.7.2 will download the update of 3.7.3 ? |
| 17:31.40 | Thanatermesis | yes, i will need to upload a new build with the "findiso" boot fix and these updates in the installer, so your 3.7.2 installed would be ok |
| 17:32.27 | Rebel450 | Thanatermesis: -> Thanatermesis: well, let's try with 3.7.3 then = fine - what is the dl link again, pls? |
| 17:33.32 | Thanatermesis | Rebel450, 3.7.2 is broken, better to wait 3.7.3, it will be available in around 4-5 hours |
| 17:33.44 | Thanatermesis | hopefully less :) |
| 17:33.46 | keyra | :) |
| 17:34.14 | Thanatermesis | maybe 3 |
| 17:34.18 | Thanatermesis | maybe 2 |
| 17:34.21 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 17:35.03 | jfbourdeau | close IRC and it'll be ready in 30 minutes lOL |
| 17:35.11 | Thanatermesis | or... well, you can also download 3.7.2 Rebel450 , just make sure you have connection to internet before to run the installer (in order to update it), and if you have a problem booting the iso just tell me, there's a very simlpe modification to do to make it boot |
| 17:35.15 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 17:35.16 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 17:35.23 | keyra | thanks for reporting the issue, by knowing it we can solve the problem for you and for everybody else affected, please use the BTS for that: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 17:35.31 | Thanatermesis | if keyra stops to ping me so much maybe less lol |
| 17:35.34 | keyra | i will wait for it |
| 17:35.36 | keyra | lagged pong |
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| 17:44.05 | Rebel450 | Thanatermesis: ....you can also download 3.7.2 Rebel450 still need the dl link pls :'( |
| 17:45.11 | Thanatermesis | https://eliveisos.elivecd.org/betatest/ |
| 17:45.17 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, ok, installer ready and tested :) |
| 17:45.20 | keyra | :) |
| 17:45.40 | jfbourdeau | so I launch 3.72 and it will update on the fly ? COOOLL!!!! |
| 17:46.19 | Thanatermesis | yes :) |
| 17:46.27 | Thanatermesis | connect to internet, run installer, follow steps :) |
| 17:46.32 | Thanatermesis | enable reports |
| 17:46.37 | Thanatermesis | it should solve all the previous issues |
| 17:47.22 | jfbourdeau | in process... Quesdion, the installer make the WiFI tool popup so yes I am connected... BUt how do we, on e16 lol laucnh the WiFi tool ? |
| 17:48.01 | Thanatermesis | good question lol |
| 17:48.20 | Thanatermesis | it doesnt shows on the menus? (network manager / nm-applet) |
| 17:50.14 | jfbourdeau | ok beeing installed... Still show an empty choice that we can choose ( sorry don't rembber if it was for the Boot/Root or EFI partition) but I was avle to select it and CLICK OK |
| 17:50.18 | jfbourdeau | presently installing |
| 17:50.51 | Thanatermesis | mmh ok i will check these results on the reports |
| 17:51.12 | Thanatermesis | empty choice when showing you to select for the EFI partition? |
| 17:51.58 | Rebel450 | Thanatermesis: so, you want me just to do the install with ext4/auto/auto - OR - again with ext4/auto/auto PLUS Nvidia Optimus yes (or no) ?? |
| 17:54.21 | Thanatermesis | Rebel450, mmh, the way you had the old install not working |
| 17:54.32 | Thanatermesis | Rebel450, but i assume all is fixed now with the so many changes in the installer |
| 17:54.35 | keyra | Thanatermesis ping, somebody needs you |
| 17:57.11 | jfbourdeau | Thanatermesis, the chroot still showed but I closed it |
| 17:57.31 | jfbourdeau | oops |
| 17:57.34 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, confirm me that: you didn't was able to select the EFI partition (not showing up), but the installer should tell you to add one, does it works correctly later? |
| 17:58.02 | jfbourdeau | the error cannot fing GRUM drive for /dev/sdb1 still showed but we'll see how it goes if I continue |
| 17:58.10 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, are you sure? or it was just the "working terminal" ? (installing / removing stuf fbla bla) |
| 17:58.34 | jfbourdeau | chrtoot 98% sure LOL nothing was happenning in that window |
| 17:58.52 | Thanatermesis | ok le tme check... |
| 17:59.00 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, did the installer wanted you to convert to GPT and asked for reboot? |
| 17:59.00 | jfbourdeau | rebooting |
| 17:59.19 | jfbourdeau | nope not booting |
| 17:59.34 | Thanatermesis | ok wait, let's see steps: |
| 17:59.36 | Thanatermesis | 1. jfbourdeau, did the installer wanted you to convert to GPT and asked for reboot? |
| 17:59.45 | jfbourdeau | no |
| 17:59.48 | Thanatermesis | hum! |
| 17:59.53 | Thanatermesis | that doesn't sounds like the installer was updated |
| 17:59.56 | jfbourdeau | it didn't talked about that |
| 18:00.17 | Thanatermesis | ok, try to force an update then |
| 18:00.21 | Thanatermesis | reboot in Live |
| 18:00.27 | Thanatermesis | run "apir eliveinstaller-6g" |
| 18:00.30 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 18:01.11 | jfbourdeau | I should have noticed about 6g |
| 18:01.53 | Thanatermesis | huawei is trying to bring 5g and Elive has 6g |
| 18:02.10 | Thanatermesis | wait before to install |
| 18:02.16 | Thanatermesis | im going to upload a new build |
| 18:02.43 | jfbourdeau | ha ha ha |
| 18:02.58 | jfbourdeau | as for the network manager I am still looking fo it |
| 18:03.18 | jfbourdeau | ok then I will create a new USB Stick installer ? |
| 18:04.38 | jfbourdeau | I was doing nothing and the WiFi manager poped up by itself LOL |
| 18:04.56 | jfbourdeau | I update 6g ? or wait for new 3.7.3 ? |
| 18:05.06 | Thanatermesis | wait a second, im building new package |
| 18:05.16 | Thanatermesis | no we dont need 3.7.3 for now :) |
| 18:05.19 | keyra | :) |
| 18:05.23 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 18:06.26 | Thanatermesis | i think that my internet is everyday more slow... :/ |
| 18:06.29 | keyra | :| |
| 18:08.58 | Rebel450 | Thanatermesis: ok, will do. Am out of here now. when you wanna rech out 2 me , send pm, ok cya |
| 18:10.59 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, done, run "apir eliveinstaller-6g" to make sure it updates first |
| 18:11.08 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 18:11.08 | keyra | to upgrade your elive system manually you can run the command "apug" or "elive-upgrader --upgrade", but the system will already run elive-upgrader from time to time so do not care |
| 18:11.24 | Thanatermesis | going for food in the meantime, im hungry! lol |
| 18:11.31 | Thanatermesis | will read you when back |
| 18:13.47 | jfbourdeau | converted to GPT' rebooting |
| 18:16.14 | jfbourdeau | waiting for WiFi popup to popup LOL |
| 18:16.18 | jfbourdeau | ok |
| 18:16.25 | jfbourdeau | enjoy your meal |
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| 18:31.32 | Eduardo-AR | sudo mc |
| 18:38.12 | jfbourdeau | failed. Now I recreated my EFI (250), Boot/root (250) and ELive reiser4 partition to start over now that I am in GPT. |
| 18:38.49 | jfbourdeau | but 6g won't update now... 404 IP 139.59.157.208 not found something about the repo |
| 18:41.11 | jfbourdeau | ok it worked |
| 18:41.16 | jfbourdeau | update of 6g |
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| 19:11.47 | Thanatermesis | ok, back! |
| 19:12.18 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> failed. Now I recreated my EFI (250), Boot/root (250) and ELive reiser4 partition to start over now that I am in GPT. |
| 19:12.26 | Thanatermesis | mmh, what failed? the previous reboot was not an install |
| 19:12.36 | Thanatermesis | was just a conversion between MSDOS partition table to GPT |
| 19:12.45 | Thanatermesis | but a reboot was needed because otherwise the isntall blocks |
| 19:12.54 | Thanatermesis | seems like the devices needs to be re-readed or something |
| 19:13.04 | Thanatermesis | so, reboot needed in order to be able to -use- it |
| 19:13.10 | Thanatermesis | so now you are installing it for real :) |
| 19:13.13 | keyra | :) |
| 19:14.06 | jfbourdeau | it didn't go well LOL |
| 19:14.28 | jfbourdeau | tried using GParted and also GNOME Disk |
| 19:14.48 | Thanatermesis | which thing not worked? |
| 19:14.51 | Thanatermesis | reports send? |
| 19:14.56 | jfbourdeau | yes you should have it |
| 19:17.31 | Thanatermesis | mmh doesn't looks like, only the old one |
| 19:17.42 | Thanatermesis | is your connection very slow jfbourdeau ? mmh i assume not... |
| 19:20.37 | jfbourdeau | no connection fast |
| 19:21.26 | jfbourdeau | do you want to make it work ? or me install window on the machine the right way ? for now I ai explain waht went weird |
| 19:22.02 | jfbourdeau | - when installing in the Terminal window, a Window (GUI) was popping up for every step very fast and dissapear before we see |
| 19:22.15 | jfbourdeau | sometime I had to choose in the GUI stuff ( Keyboard choice etc) |
| 19:22.41 | jfbourdeau | is asked gor the Boot parition but not the UEFI partition |
| 19:23.12 | Thanatermesis | ok, if not asking for EFI partition its assumed that it autodetected (and used) it |
| 19:23.14 | jfbourdeau | when partitionning with Gpard ( the last choice in the menu partition are made) it's was werid, let me describe |
| 19:23.48 | Thanatermesis | <jfbourdeau> - when installing in the Terminal window, a Window (GUI) was popping up for every step very fast and dissapear before we see |
| 19:24.10 | Thanatermesis | mmh that should the "please wait, working atoms and unicorns" windows, but... "fast before to read?" thats curious |
| 19:24.17 | jfbourdeau | There is the partition Name, LABEL and partition type..... I was choosing LABEL AND Patition name ELiveBoot, then Label and partition Name UEFI then the last one ELIVE_REISER4. |
| 19:24.29 | jfbourdeau | the results was : |
| 19:24.46 | Thanatermesis | yes, the installer replaces the names :) |
| 19:24.48 | keyra | :) |
| 19:25.12 | Thanatermesis | the installer already re-formats the partitions to the selected FS, so in fact you don't even need to format them in gparted, you can even leave them as unformated |
| 19:25.12 | jfbourdeau | the name were mixed up and the partiiton tool even choosed EXT4 for one, RESIFER4 for the other iven if I choosed unformated for all o fthem and mixed up the names... The label was not anymore with the partition name of the same name |
| 19:25.33 | jfbourdeau | I did choosed UNFORMATED |
| 19:26.18 | Thanatermesis | not sure to understand... i assume this is correct? :) |
| 19:26.27 | Thanatermesis | the installer reformats the partitions |
| 19:26.33 | Thanatermesis | and assign names |
| 19:26.45 | Thanatermesis | (so, no matter what you declare in them from gparted) |
| 19:26.50 | jfbourdeau | no it was not LOL |
| 19:27.04 | jfbourdeau | PArtition name and Label didn't matched anymore |
| 19:27.14 | Thanatermesis | what you mean? |
| 19:27.15 | jfbourdeau | what do you prefer |
| 19:27.44 | jfbourdeau | I rested the laptop because it'S messed up now LOL and I try again and film with my webcam what i see ? |
| 19:27.52 | jfbourdeau | or install windows normaly ? |
| 19:28.07 | jfbourdeau | I don't care your choose... JUst want to help |
| 19:28.10 | Thanatermesis | no install windows yet, we need to fix any existing installer issues :) |
| 19:28.23 | Thanatermesis | but i didnt understood the labels problem |
| 19:28.47 | jfbourdeau | I will clonezilla it and do it again and film it LOL and put the bovie on dropbox LOL ? |
| 19:29.13 | Thanatermesis | mmh ok |
| 19:29.16 | Thanatermesis | or better youtube |
| 19:29.19 | Thanatermesis | thats faster |
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| 19:29.20 | keyra | welcome EliveWeb_60653! Ask your question! Have you see the new amazing forums too? http://forum.elivelinux.org , the are gorgeous! =) |
| 19:29.35 | Thanatermesis | preparing some tea.. |
| 20:01.40 | LupusE | i am searching the DL for elive :) |
| 20:01.42 | keyra | :) |
| 20:01.56 | LupusE | (beta) |
| 20:03.39 | Thanatermesis | LupusE, notes: you must upgrade the installer before installing, and you should boot in UEFI mode but you need to edit the bootentry (key "e") to remove the "findiso" parameter and boot with F10 |
| 20:03.54 | Thanatermesis | https://eliveisos.elivecd.org/betatest/ LupusE |
| 20:05.17 | LupusE | 8,2MB/s. nice. |
| 20:05.45 | LupusE | yes, I'll try to remember, becaue i haven't a second screen in my bed. |
| 20:08.39 | Thanatermesis | i use my phone to take photos (which i use as "notes" or things / messages to remember) |
| 20:08.53 | Thanatermesis | my phone is full of photos of computer messages lol |
| 20:14.05 | jfbourdeau | Thanatermesis, I will have to continuer later tonight sorry |
| 20:15.05 | Thanatermesis | jfbourdeau, ok, when you have time :), actually i dont understood your issue so i dont know what i should fix lol |
| 20:15.09 | Thanatermesis | doing install tests too |
| 20:15.13 | keyra | thanks for reporting the issue, by knowing it we can solve the problem for you and for everybody else affected, please use the BTS for that: http://bugs.elivecd.org |
| 20:19.57 | jfbourdeau | Thanatermesis, whad is sad is that you didn't received the log. 2 failed installs |
| 20:20.34 | Thanatermesis | yep :/ |
| 20:20.36 | keyra | :| |
| 20:20.50 | Thanatermesis | i added more debug to the receiving tool to understand what is happening, maybe it stucks in a step |
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| 21:18.03 | keyra | welcome to the Elive world, Elive_inst_pt_10! =) I hope you are enjoying the system! |
| 21:18.09 | keyra | You can find the amazing Elive community on this new BETA Forum website! https://forum.elivelinux.org , BTW press control-s to set your nickname here :) |
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| 22:58.44 | Thanatermesis | o/ grottem |
| 22:58.46 | keyra | hi! |