| 04:37:43 | perriko | is it really impossible to get the boodldr in using usb? |
| 04:40:33 | perriko | anybody home? |
| 05:49:36 | a7r | is away: sleeping |
| 11:48:32 | Lindsay | Beep |
| 12:05:36 | nelson | foo |
| 12:05:48 | nelson | Chanserv hasn't set the topic. |
| 12:07:45 | edwardam | nelson: better / |
| 12:07:47 | edwardam | ? |
| 14:01:33 | nelson | yep. |
| 14:01:48 | nelson | But shouldn't it have the URL? |
| 14:02:10 | nelson | /topic Use Familiar, because it feels soo good. http://familiar.handhelds.org |
| 14:02:49 | nikos | nelson: Now we just need an op that is among the living. ;) |
| 14:32:20 | rharris | alright, I'm doing something stupid... cardmgr is giving me an Operation Failed run I run pump on my wavelan card. |
| 14:33:04 | nikos | Hmm, might want to try that one in #handhelds.org also where the population is higher. |
| 14:33:12 | rharris | m'k |
| 14:44:41 | nelson | edwardam: you here? |
| 14:45:15 | | edwardam was last seen on #handhelds.org 2 hours, 16 minutes and 23 seconds ago, saying: cworth: morning [Mon May 21 13:28:52 2001] |
| 14:45:15 | nikos | ibot: seen edwardam |
| 16:00:51 | Kero | ho! |
| 16:01:04 | Kero | is there a passwd program for familiar 0.4? |
| 16:09:34 | Kero | nikos: OK, I'll wait a bit. |
| 16:09:45 | Kero | and maybe write a few packages of my own. |
| 16:10:39 | nikos | Kero: Cool. |
| 16:12:00 | jg | nikos: how do I get ssh running on the iPAQ, so I can log in? Is it in the FAQ? |
| 16:12:36 | Kero | jg: the familiar howto on wiki is still valid for 0.4 |
| 16:14:14 | jg | Kero: OK, but it needs to get linked into the installation directions... |
| 16:15:09 | cworthOINK | jg: I made an ssh.ipk that automatically generates the keys after being installed. I'll ping a7r again about getting this package in place. |
| 16:16:07 | jg | Thanks... |
| 16:17:11 | nikos | jg: Getting sorted out? |
| 16:17:59 | jg | Yeah. Fighting a bit with Magicpoint... |
| 16:18:19 | nikos | jg: Is it working any better? |
| 16:18:29 | jg | Mostly... |
| 16:20:24 | jg | Kero: don't work. I get: |
| 16:20:32 | jg | Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshderror: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or directory |
| 16:21:03 | cworthOINK | jg: That's actually OK, (if you only compare about ssh v2 protocol traffic) |
| 16:21:37 | cworthOINK | s/compare/care/ |
| 16:22:06 | nikos | /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key -N '' |
| 16:22:45 | jg | Do I have to be in the password file? |
| 16:22:54 | jg | It won't let me log in as root... |
| 16:22:58 | nikos | Yes, or just use root |
| 16:23:03 | nikos | It does for me. |
| 16:23:11 | nikos | root/rootme |
| 16:24:07 | jg | duh... Was attempting to log into my laptop. Works now... |
| 16:24:15 | nikos | :) |
| 16:24:31 | Kero | :-) |
| 16:43:07 | nelson | nikos: Add it to the wiki page. |
| 16:43:19 | nikos | Heh, good point. |
| 16:44:06 | nelson | Would also be nice to have a ssh applet with "Generate RSA key" and "Generate DSA" key" buttons. |
| 17:46:33 | nikos | Kero: There is no standardized method, many came from debs, others are in CVS, others are in a7r's back pocket. |
| 17:49:25 | nelson | seen cworth? |
| 17:49:52 | nelson | I suppose that if ibot hasn't been around, it wouldn't have a clue. Hey cworth, you seen yourself lately? |
| 17:50:12 | nikos | nelson: He's also not supposed to reply without direct references anymore. |
| 17:50:16 | nikos | ibot: seen cworth? |
| 17:50:21 | Kero | damn. I need an unstripped libreadline.so and libncurses.so |
| 17:50:30 | nikos | <ibot> cworth was last seen on #handhelds.org 1 hours, 11 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: mallum: it's not a bad system, (I played with their Java thing a while ago). Never picking up the pen has a speed benefit, but I don't like wasting the screen real estate. [Mon May 21 17:39:12 2001] |
| 17:50:44 | nikos | Kero: Do you want source code, or just contents? |
| 17:50:54 | nikos | Kero: http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.4/packages/armv4l/unpacked/ |
| 17:51:07 | nikos | Kero: That's the unpacked contents of the ipkgs. |
| 17:52:05 | `pwgen` | hi all |
| 17:52:09 | Kero | Need unstripped :-) |
| 17:52:11 | nikos | Hello |
| 17:52:17 | Kero | not unpacked |
| 17:53:28 | cworth | nelson: howdy |
| 17:53:38 | Kero | nikos: `file` says it is a stripped ARM shared library. |
| 17:53:49 | nikos | Kero: OK |
| 17:54:11 | nelson | cworth: aha! I've got pygps installed twice. How do I recover? |
| 17:56:04 | nikos | Kero: ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-arm/base/libncurses5_5.0-6.0potato1.deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/binary-arm/base/libreadline4_4.1-1.deb |
| 17:57:07 | cworth | nelson: how'd you manage that? You should probably just delete one of the pygps paragraphs from /usr/lib/ipkg/status. |
| 17:58:04 | nelson | cworth: ipkg think pygps isn't installed, so it doesn't complain when I try to install it again. |
| 17:58:10 | nikos | Kero: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source/libs/ncurses_5.0.orig.tar.gz http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source/libs/readline4_4.1.orig.tar.gz |
| 17:58:39 | Kero | will have a look |
| 18:05:54 | cworth | nelson: OK, that's corrupt. Two questions: 1) Do you know how it got that way? 2) What problems/symptoms does this cause? |
| 18:06:08 | cworth | nelson: The solution is still as I described above. |
| 18:20:25 | nelson | Well, I made up my package by hand according to your instructions on the ipkg wiki, so that may be it right there. |
| 18:21:13 | cworth | nelson: do you have a URL to your .ipk so I can try it? |
| 18:22:46 | nelson | http://russnelson.com/pygps-0.03.ipk |
| 18:26:22 | Kero | bah, sources of ncurses refuse to get configured properly. |
| 18:39:08 | nikos | is away: Picking up my truck... |
| 18:51:13 | nelson | cworth: is it okay to put a version number into your .ipk filename? |
| 18:53:29 | Kero | nelson: I'd think, of course that is okay, so I am wondering what you mean... |
| 18:54:58 | cworth | nelson: the .ipk filename should match the existing convention: <pkg>_<version>_<arch>.ipk |
| 18:55:27 | nelson | I was using a dash. |
| 18:56:40 | cworth | nelson: also <version> should match: [<epoch>:]<upstream-version>[-<debian-revision>][-fam<familiar-revision>] |
| 18:57:26 | nelson | Okay. |
| 19:05:48 | cworth | nelson: can we discuss this in #handhelds.org? |
| 19:05:56 | nelson | yep |
| 19:08:59 | `pwgen` | hi again... |
| 19:09:26 | `pwgen` | has anyone tried to set up an ldapserver on an little ipaq ??? |
| 19:09:39 | `pwgen` | ( ldapclients are woring ) |
| 19:10:50 | `pwgen` | ... grr client-tools from debian are running fine (;-)) |
| 19:52:16 | BadMind | hi |
| 20:02:02 | nikos | is back |
| 20:21:22 | Kero | Hm, ldd segfaults on shared libraries... |
| 20:27:52 | nikos | Kero: Where is this? ipaq, x86 cross tools, skiffcluster? |
| 20:31:03 | Kero | #familiar: familiar v0.4 |
| 20:33:01 | Kero | compiling strace is even more difficult than compiling ncurses... |
| 20:33:25 | Kero | cross compiling, that is. |
| 20:33:46 | Tangent | Kero : Why not use the debian binary? |
| 20:34:14 | Tangent | Kero : There's a copy at http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/intimate/latest/rsync/usr/bin/strace |
| 20:34:15 | nikos | Kero: Are you sure that it is using the right ldd? |
| 20:39:46 | Kero | nikos: pretty sure :-) |
| 20:40:00 | Kero | Tangent: I'll have a look |
| 20:42:21 | jacques | a7r: you here? |
| 20:46:31 | Kero | Tangent: works, fine. |
| 20:58:24 | Tangent | Kero : The whole intimate distro is up there.. you should find plenty of good binaries ;) |
| 20:59:56 | Kero | already looking :-) |