| 00:27:46 | jblack | They're quiet in #handhelds.org |
| 00:40:17 | jblack | Anyone made compactflash cards work on a laptop with a pcmcia adaptor? |
| 00:45:07 | Jim7J1AJH | jblack: Yes, but mine are formated in VFAT/DOS format. |
| 00:45:23 | Jim7J1AJH | I haven't tried the new JFS on the compact flast cards yet. |
| 00:46:18 | jblack | What format are they in that the ipaq uses in wince mode? |
| 00:46:34 | jblack | I was hoping to use the flash card to get the backup image off the ipaq onto my laptop |
| 00:47:21 | jblack | Or failing that, sticking with wince until there is a way to do an install with the usb cradle. |
| 00:48:14 | jblack | pcmcia recognizes the flash card, but I don't know what device I should mknod in /dev |
| 00:50:25 | jblack | For example: |
| 00:50:25 | jblack | comet:/usr/src/modules/pcmcia-cs/flash# ftl_check |
| 00:50:25 | jblack | usage: ftl_check [-v] device |
| 00:51:24 | Jim7J1AJH | WinCE must be in VFAT/DOS mode too... since I was able to read the card out of my camera. |
| 00:52:19 | jblack | I assume device would be /dev/flash0, but I don't have that. So I figure it's supposed to be either c 31 16 or b 31 16 , but neither seem to work |
| 00:52:23 | Jim7J1AJH | I'm away from my notebook, so I can't check. In my case, I believe it was acceptable as one of the /dev/hd* family. I think /dev/hdc in my case. |
| 00:52:55 | Jim7J1AJH | Since compact flash, and the adapter, look like an IDE drive to the outside world. |
| 00:54:54 | jblack | Hmmmm. Well, cardmgr is reporting ide/ata showing up on slot 1, and it can't find ide_cs. So I went ahead and installed ide-cs. |
| 00:55:37 | jblack | but darn if I can figure out what to do next |
| 00:56:13 | Jim7J1AJH | Sorry, I can't help without having my notebook to hand. |
| 00:56:30 | Jim7J1AJH | In my case, I just 'tail -f /var/log/messages' when I inserted the card |
| 00:56:47 | Jim7J1AJH | and saw the module being loaded and so knew what to mount. |
| 00:57:15 | jblack | so the trick for me must be to get pcmcia-cs to take in ide-cs rather than ide_cs. |
| 00:57:53 | Jim7J1AJH | It sounds like it. |
| 00:58:48 | jblack | lemme change pcmcia config. I might go away for a sec |
| 00:58:59 | jblack | woohoo! |
| 00:59:02 | jblack | I still here? |
| 00:59:14 | jblack | fat16. :) |
| 00:59:22 | jblack | cool. |
| 00:59:25 | jblack | Yup. hde |
| 01:00:18 | jblack | I need a better pcmcia adapter though. |
| 01:00:26 | jblack | I need to use a pen to push the card all the way in |
| 01:01:40 | jblack | cool! |
| 09:45:20 | mandor | hi |
| 12:33:07 | mallum | hi nikos |
| 12:33:15 | nikos | Hello mallum |
| 12:34:55 | mallum | making this deb for Tangent |
| 12:35:06 | nikos | Cool |
| 12:38:39 | mallum | cool, dont it - hopefully thats Tangent off my back |
| 12:38:58 | mallum | s/dont/done/ |
| 12:39:04 | | cworth was last seen on #tuxboxproject 55 minutes and 15 seconds ago, saying: <private message> [Thu Jul 5 12:43:49 2001] |
| 12:39:04 | mallum | ibot: seen cworth |
| 12:39:26 | | i heard tuxboxproject was http://www.tuxboxproject.com/ or http://www.tuxboxproject.com/tforum/search.php?action=viewtoday or http://idn.indrema.com/www-iesdk/msg00585.html |
| 12:39:26 | mallum | ibot: tuxboxproject ? |
| 12:54:37 | ursrau | is anybody in ? |
| 12:54:47 | mandor | yep |
| 12:54:59 | ursrau | This is the first time I use irc from the unix prompt |
| 12:55:19 | ursrau | and it is a bad time too, as I am stuck in the middle of flashing my iPAQ |
| 12:55:37 | ursrau | alias |
| 12:55:41 | mandor | hmmmm.. the familiar howto explain this well |
| 12:56:12 | nikos | ursrau: We need details. What instructions are you looking at and where are you having a problem? |
| 12:56:47 | ursrau | ok, I have successfully donw/up loaded the 2.14.5-bigkernel |
| 12:56:49 | ursrau | and |
| 12:57:11 | nikos | ursrau: Is this an initial install, or an upgrade? |
| 12:57:15 | ursrau | nwo when I try to set the flas protection on it doesnt tell me it is locked when using qflash2 |
| 12:57:38 | ursrau | It is an initial. The full details including a log of the session |
| 12:57:49 | nikos | ursrau: Be sure to use the complete bootloader installation instructions, every step, all the way to the end. |
| 12:57:59 | ursrau | is on email to familiar@handhelds.org |
| 12:58:04 | nikos | ursrau: Do not skip to the familiar isntructions until you have done all of the steps. |
| 12:58:38 | nikos | ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/linux/compaq/ipaq/v0.20/install.html |
| 12:59:46 | ursrau | ok, i have followed all of the instructions |
| 13:00:11 | ursrau | I was following the install.html instructions to the letter. |
| 13:00:15 | nikos | ursrau: I don't mean to be rude, but you can't have this problem if you did. |
| 13:00:26 | ursrau | ;-) |
| 13:00:31 | nikos | ursrau: Did you do Steps 14 and 15? |
| 13:01:21 | ursrau | sorry I will try to find where I have gone wrong. |
| 13:01:52 | nikos | ursrau: Can you answer my question? |
| 13:03:22 | mandor | ursrau : it's not lost .. I've reinstalled the fam. on my ipaq a few times =) |
| 13:03:41 | nikos | ursrau: You can only get that symptom if you haven't reset the ipaq, and you shouldn't reset until you have successfully done step 14. |
| 13:06:56 | ursrau | sorry my steps aren't numbered |
| 13:07:02 | ursrau | is 14 the pflash step |
| 13:07:11 | nikos | ursrau: That's because you are using the wrong directions. |
| 13:07:28 | nikos | ursrau: Those directions specifically state that you MUST already have a bootloader installed. |
| 13:07:48 | ursrau | OK, I'll walk over to the other machine and double-check the instructions. |
| 13:07:51 | nikos | ursrau: The very top of the Familiar instructions tell you to look at the OTHER instructions if you don't already have a bootloader. |
| 13:08:14 | ursrau | when I fire up osloader and then check -> tools -> about |
| 13:08:32 | ursrau | it tells me that I have osloader-1.3.0 and bootldr 2.9.0 |
| 13:08:48 | ursrau | is that different bootldr? |
| 13:09:05 | nikos | ursrau: That bootloader is NOT installed. IT is just running as part of osloader. |
| 13:09:20 | nikos | ursrau: How did you even know about osloader? |
| 13:09:28 | ursrau | OK, so how do I install this first bootldr? |
| 13:09:28 | nikos | ursrau: Those instructions don't even mention it. |
| 13:09:36 | ursrau | I activesynced it to the ipaq |
| 13:09:49 | nikos | ursrau: But what instructions did you use to do that? |
| 13:11:01 | ursrau | Uppps I guess the nights were too long, that must have been some compaq 0.20/0.21 install instructions? |
| 13:11:13 | nikos | Yes. |
| 13:11:24 | nikos | Those are the numbered instructions which you did not complete. |
| 13:11:43 | ursrau | So any idea how I can safely recover from my misguided attempts of uploading the 2.14.5 bootldr? |
| 13:12:16 | nikos | ursrau: Just go back to those instructions and start with Step 14. |
| 13:12:27 | ursrau | I am afraid to "reset" the ipaq in it's current state? |
| 13:12:58 | nikos | ursrau: Do step 14. |
| 13:13:10 | nikos | ursrau: If step 14 is OK, you are fine. |
| 13:13:15 | ursrau | OK, I'll take a break and print out those numbered instructions - I guess you repeated yourself - in saying that - for a reason |
| 13:13:21 | ursrau | thanks for now |
| 13:13:29 | nikos | Sure |
| 13:15:40 | ursrau | Sorry, the URL has gone of the screen. Could you please send it one jmore time? Thanks. |
| 13:16:25 | nikos | ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/linux/compaq/ipaq/v0.20/install.html |
| 13:17:13 | ursrau | thanks again |
| 13:17:25 | nikos | No problem. |
| 14:47:01 | nikos | is away: Errand |
| 15:04:28 | nikos | is back |
| 15:04:42 | nikos | ursrau: How's it going? |
| 15:13:41 | ursrau | hi nikos |
| 15:13:54 | nikos | Making any progress? |
| 15:13:58 | ursrau | I have it all done! Many thanks |
| 15:14:03 | nikos | Great. |
| 15:14:32 | ursrau | Now I am going home - it's the end of worktime here. |
| 15:14:45 | ursrau | Then I have to get the pcmcia card detected and set up |
| 15:15:24 | nikos | Cool |
| 15:16:14 | ursrau | One thing though - is there a shell on the X terminal? I am doing everything as a serial console at the moment. |
| 15:17:26 | nikos | ursrau: Run rxvt from the blackbox menu |
| 15:18:09 | ursrau | Thanks. Must go now. I am sure I will be back ;-) |
| 20:03:43 | mandor_ | hi |
| 20:04:02 | mandor_ | I need an info about familiar + debian package .. |
| 20:04:40 | nikos | or here... |
| 20:05:32 | mandor_ | nikos: =) |