| 13:15:03 | sjohnson | is back (gone 16:01:47) |
| 13:31:58 | mpakula | is AWAY at 17:35:45 : CAFFEE |
| 13:43:13 | mpakula | is back after 0 d 0 h 11 m 15 s |
| 14:47:01 | bAckline | lo all |
| 14:47:32 | nikos | Hi bAckline |
| 14:48:57 | bAckline | :) |
| 14:49:13 | bAckline | squeezes his ipaq and watches the screen flip |
| 14:49:28 | bAckline | not been too impressed with my ipaq really. Linux made it more fun tho |
| 14:50:16 | bhima | squeezing it? |
| 14:50:43 | nikos | bAckline: Yeah, that's a common problem. |
| 14:50:51 | bAckline | hehe, yer, squeezing. Both me and my bosses iPAQs reverse the screen image when you squeeze the sides. |
| 14:50:56 | nikos | bAckline: Careful, you may get it stuck that way. ;) |
| 14:51:09 | bAckline | his is real bad tho, you just touch it and it flips. actually, he sent it back and got a replacement |
| 14:51:18 | bAckline | heh |
| 14:51:38 | bAckline | thinking of putting a palm pilot emulator onto familiar for linux on the ipaq, hehe |
| 14:51:41 | nikos | is away: Errand |
| 14:51:45 | bhima | that's not good. |
| 14:52:51 | bAckline | I'm looking at "intimate" right now, I may try it out tonite. |
| 14:52:57 | bAckline | I've always used Familiar |
| 14:53:11 | bhima | what is different about intimate? |
| 14:54:22 | bhima | hrm. any way I can make the X background be white using the familiar default apps? |
| 14:55:59 | bAckline | looks like there is a bigger range of precompiled stuff. I guess its just the debian packages, which could be installed onto Familiar right? |
| 14:58:08 | DragonEagle | hold on...I know this one... |
| 15:00:15 | DragonEagle | xsetroot -bg white |
| 15:02:21 | bhima | dragon++, thanks :) |
| 15:02:53 | sjohnson | is away: lunch |
| 15:28:14 | Lowridah | do I need a serial port version or can I install familiar on a USB ipaq? |
| 15:37:08 | mutex-work | Lowridah: you need serial port to install familiar |
| 15:37:31 | Lowridah | bummer, that's another $30 |
| 15:37:59 | Lowridah | ok thanks |
| 15:50:17 | nikos | is back |
| 16:58:24 | sjohnson | is back (gone 01:55:33) |
| 17:28:15 | pacmanz | does anyone know how to get syslog in familiar? |
| 17:49:13 | nikos | pacmanz: I don't think it has been ipkged, look for an convert a debian arm package. |
| 17:49:21 | nikos | s/an/and/ |
| 19:44:34 | acous | does the familiar project cover the development of a consistent user interface? |
| 19:45:28 | nikos | acous: What does that mean? We will primarily focus on X, GTK, and a WM (currently ion). |
| 19:46:03 | acous | well, looking at screenshots it looks like a small version of a desktop GUI |
| 19:46:23 | nikos | acous: I suspect those are older screenshots of blackbox. |
| 19:46:24 | acous | personally I don't want to be fiddling with window positions if im doing pda stuff |
| 19:46:37 | nikos | acous: ion tends towards full screen windows. |
| 19:46:39 | acous | maybe.. is there somewhere I can get newer ones? |
| 19:47:04 | acous | untill I find a screwdrivers small enough to open my usb cradle :) |
| 19:47:29 | perlan | Sears |
| 19:47:56 | perlan | or a hex key set |
| 19:47:57 | nikos | acous: Yeah, find a Torx 6 at Sears. |
| 19:48:36 | nikos | acous: I'm afraid there's not centralized screenshot repository and little organization, I'm sure newer ones exist, but where is the question. |
| 19:48:39 | acous | Sears... I presume that's some chain in the US |
| 19:48:52 | acous | :) |
| 19:49:01 | nikos | acous: Ah yes, sorry. |
| 19:49:21 | acous | I have a hex key set but the screws are 6 point screws not hex key screws |
| 19:49:25 | perlan | use a metric hex key, worked fine for me |
| 19:49:39 | acous | hmm |
| 19:50:05 | perlan | actual inch, looks like the 1/16 inch |
| 19:50:14 | nikos | acous: I think you might find some newer screenshots in http://macan.metainfo.org/macan/ipaq/ but I can't get there right now myself. |
| 19:50:23 | perlan | nope, the 050 one |
| 19:51:11 | perlan | 1.2 mm |
| 19:51:29 | acous | k thx |
| 19:51:59 | perlan | 1.2mm is probably not possible alas |
| 19:52:26 | acous | ill find something close |
| 20:22:58 | Peanut | Good evening |
| 20:24:56 | nikos | Hi Peanut |
| 20:25:03 | Peanut | Hi again, nikos |
| 21:20:08 | smok | is away: Gone to bed |
| 23:10:50 | pisymbol | Hey, quick question - where is ipkg-build? I can't seem to find it. (trying to build a ipkg) |
| 23:10:50 | Willfe | is away: home |
| 23:28:15 | pkomarek | is away: I'm busy |