| 01:11:51 | relllid | how close is familar .5 ? |
| 01:13:07 | Disconnect | relllid: try #handhelds.org (although cworth seems to be wandered off, and he's the one who would know) |
| 01:18:45 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | greetings |
| 01:39:51 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | is away: I'm busy |
| 01:54:38 | Cameron | waves goodbye |
| 02:09:48 | shaedow | anyone run familiar on a 3150? |
| 02:10:26 | shaedow | i am wondering how it will handle on 16mb of ram |
| 02:11:19 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | shaedow: wait for dneuer and/or bhima |
| 02:11:37 | shaedow | actually i havent bought the 3150 yet |
| 02:11:45 | shaedow | but they are by far more affordable |
| 02:11:59 | | bhima was last seen on #familiar 11 hours, 9 minutes and 38 seconds ago, saying: dragon++, thanks :) [Thu Jul 26 16:02:21 2001] |
| 02:11:59 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | ibot: seen bhima |
| 02:12:23 | shaedow | and for the same cost as the color model, i can get the mono, with wireless card and expansion slot |
| 02:12:33 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | yeah, 200 bucks is not bad |
| 02:12:56 | shaedow | ebay has em 159$-179$ new buyitnow. |
| 02:13:04 | shaedow | 15$ shipping |
| 02:15:16 | relllid | I just got my 3650 today. |
| 02:15:42 | relllid | Now I have to wait for a serial cradle to get rid of wince. |
| 02:15:44 | shaedow | i have a buddy with the 3650 fully decked out |
| 02:15:52 | relllid | they are $445 |
| 02:15:59 | shaedow | micro drive, wireless card, keyboard, familiar |
| 02:16:09 | shaedow | but for what he paid i will get a libretto |
| 02:16:12 | shaedow | the new ones |
| 02:16:18 | shaedow | not the 233mmz - |
| 02:16:23 | shaedow | the 600mhz model |
| 02:17:08 | relllid | but the battey life is shorter I bet. |
| 02:18:07 | jacques | how are the new librettos? |
| 02:18:17 | shaedow | they are bad ass |
| 02:18:19 | jacques | how do they compare to the vaio picturebook? |
| 02:18:23 | shaedow | but expensive for what you get |
| 02:18:30 | shaedow | comparable to picturebook |
| 02:18:34 | shaedow | but no camera |
| 02:18:37 | shaedow | same processor |
| 02:18:45 | shaedow | same price range |
| 02:18:52 | jacques | i could do without the camera personally |
| 02:18:57 | shaedow | me too |
| 02:19:01 | jacques | display size? |
| 02:19:08 | shaedow | not sure |
| 02:19:16 | shaedow | i dont remmember the exact size |
| 02:19:19 | shaedow | a buddy has one |
| 02:19:26 | shaedow | he paid out the nose for it |
| 02:19:34 | jacques | how about pcmcia slots etc? |
| 02:19:38 | shaedow | to ahve it imported from japan when it came out |
| 02:19:41 | jacques | I wish my picturebook had 2 |
| 02:19:49 | shaedow | i think it only had 1 |
| 02:19:56 | shaedow | but had usb iirc |
| 02:20:17 | pkomarek | is back (gone 02:52:02) |
| 02:23:21 | jacques | yeh, picturebook has usb and firewire |
| 02:23:32 | jacques | and a stupid memory stick slot |
| 02:23:38 | jacques | no serial port |
| 02:23:55 | jacques | winmodem :-( |
| 02:49:58 | shaedow | ohh |
| 02:49:59 | shaedow | btw |
| 02:49:59 | shaedow | The H3150 Monochrome unit is available. |
| 02:50:01 | shaedow | CRL started porting the bootldr to this unit, but trashed flash and is still waiting for enough technical data from the product group to restore it and continue with the port. |
| 02:50:07 | shaedow | Compaq CRL does not have any details on the LCD. The OSLoader Regdump utility is all that was used to port sa1100fb to the H3600. |
| 02:50:20 | shaedow | from the FAQ on handhelds.org |
| 02:50:27 | shaedow | so unless that is outdated |
| 02:50:47 | shaedow | it looks like the 31xx series doesnt hang with linux |
| 02:50:51 | shaedow | yet anyway |
| 02:51:43 | e_m_rainey | is there a way to get a remote connection to the ipaq? like ssh? |
| 02:52:04 | shaedow | yes i have a buddy running ssh and ftp |
| 02:52:20 | e_m_rainey | after a ppp connection I mean |
| 02:54:19 | esalazar | I can't get pypaq to work |
| 02:54:55 | esalazar | e_m_rainey: yes. it works. If you have ppp up, just ssh it and it should work. |
| 02:55:10 | esalazar | Does anyone know about pypaq? |
| 02:56:18 | shaedow | not i |
| 02:57:16 | sjohnson | esalazarL have you tried running pypaq from the command line to see if there are errors? |
| 02:58:00 | sjohnson | esalazar: And which madplay .ipk do you have installed? madplay or madplay-bleed |
| 02:58:37 | esalazar | sjohnson: yes. There are no errors. I have madplay-bleed and madplay installed. This did work fine for a while but suddenly stopped working. |
| 02:58:52 | esalazar | Now there are no errors just pypaq never appears on the screen |
| 02:59:39 | sjohnson | esalazar: Try running pypaq from the serial console. There must be an error of some type. |
| 03:02:04 | esalazar | sjohnson: exact same thing from the serial console. |
| 03:02:24 | esalazar | From the command line it looks fine, just never appears on ipaq screen. |
| 03:03:13 | esalazar | If I were missing a dependency, python would complain right? |
| 03:03:40 | sjohnson | esalazar: Yes. python would though up a backtrace. |
| 03:03:53 | sjohnson | er, throw up... |
| 03:04:43 | sjohnson | esalazar: Have you tried removing and reinstalling pypaq? |
| 03:05:24 | esalazar | I noticed (when pypaq was working) that if I set my music directory to / is takes a while. Is it searching through all the subdirectories for all the mp3 files? Since then I have uninstalled pypaq and reinstalled a couple times and deletec all .pypaq* files |
| 03:06:16 | esalazar | This really sucks actually because I just got my car charger and big pcmcia ide drive and I wanted to use my ipaq for listening to music on a long trip |
| 03:07:26 | | boodle was last seen on #handhelds.org 10 hours, 44 minutes and 23 seconds ago, saying: Nermal: hehe congrats [Thu Jul 26 17:23:03 2001] |
| 03:07:26 | sjohnson | ibot: seen boodle |
| 03:07:37 | | boodle was last seen on #handhelds.org 10 hours, 44 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: Nermal: hehe congrats [Thu Jul 26 17:23:03 2001] |
| 03:07:37 | sjohnson | ibot: seen boodle? |
| 03:08:35 | sjohnson | esalazar: IIRC pypaq doesn't scan mp3 dirs until you bring up the add to playlist dialog screen. |
| 03:08:36 | esalazar | the other lame thing is that when I try to follow the link on handhelds.org to the pypaq site, I get forwarded from http://ipaq.sytes.net to happybdaypeter.penguinpowered.com which is not a real site. So I can't even email the developer |
| 03:09:48 | shaedow | hahaha |
| 03:09:59 | sjohnson | esalazar: Goto http://ipaq.sytes.net/ipaq/. boodle's ipaq stuff is there. |
| 03:19:03 | | bonjour, cmarqu[XXX1302] |
| 03:19:03 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | ibot: hi |
| 03:19:10 | esalazar | sjohnson: I sent him an email. |
| 03:19:34 | | Tangent was last seen on #intimate 7 hours, 30 minutes and 1 seconds ago, saying: goes to watch some TV for a bit [Thu Jul 26 20:49:33 2001] |
| 03:19:34 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | ibot: seen Tangent |
| 03:19:44 | | boodle was last seen on #handhelds.org 10 hours, 56 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying: Nermal: hehe congrats [Thu Jul 26 17:23:03 2001] |
| 03:19:44 | sjohnson | ibot: seen boodle? |
| 03:29:12 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | is away: I'm busy |
| 03:29:59 | | e_m_rainey: i haven't a clue |
| 03:29:59 | e_m_rainey | ibot: ssh on debian? |
| 03:30:32 | | e_m_rainey: excuse me? |
| 03:30:32 | e_m_rainey | ibot: ssh |
| 03:30:41 | | e_m_rainey: wish i knew |
| 03:30:41 | e_m_rainey | ibot: where can I get ssh? |
| 03:33:11 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | ssh is at www.openssh.org |
| 03:33:32 | | OK, cmarqu[XXX1302]. |
| 03:33:32 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | ibot: ssh is at www.openssh.org |
| 05:14:09 | esalazar | im using xchat on my ipaq. cooh |
| 05:47:05 | cmarqu[XXX1302] | is back (gone 02:17:53) |
| 06:29:49 | | ...but dillo is maintained by mailto:macan@colband.com.br/macan@debian.org or a lightweight web browser... |
| 06:29:49 | cmarqu | ibot: dillo is at http://www.geocities.com/glenn65535/ and http://www.metainfo.org/macan/ipaq/ |
| 16:52:34 | mpakula | Terrys : Hi |
| 16:55:16 | terrys | mpakula: hi how is it going... |
| 16:56:26 | mpakula | Terrys: CAme back from lab earlier so we can't see RAT working but I guess we can install it ? |
| 16:57:10 | terrys | mpakula: I put another RAT executable up on the FP server last night... this time with the shell script *not* gzipped :) |
| 16:57:55 | mpakula | Terrys: ok let me logoff for a minute to change to mandrake for I'm in Windoze now |
| 17:10:00 | sjohnson | is back (gone 02:03:17) |
| 17:12:24 | mpakula | terrys: welcome back |
| 17:16:15 | mpakula | ls |
| 17:19:02 | mpakula | terrys: file * shows that rat : ASCII text |
| 17:21:49 | terrys | mpakula: great - should work now - I've gotta run - I just sent you mail... see ya l8r |
| 17:40:44 | DragonEagle_feeding_jeep | is away: gosh I wish my car didn't go through so much gas |
| 20:33:22 | frizz | I am trying to reproduce the familiar kernel and modules, where can I get an exact copy of the kernel source (and config) that is used w/familiar0.4? |
| 20:36:47 | nikos | frizz: From handhelds.org cvs |
| 20:38:03 | frizz | which tag? |
| 20:39:30 | a7r | frizz: familiar-v0_4 |
| 20:41:16 | frizz | thanks. I have been having trouble getting the modules in 2.4.6 to work correctly, so I'm falling back to 2.4.3 |
| 20:43:10 | smok | is away: I'm busy, see you tomorrow |
| 20:47:58 | frizz | I get the following when I try to boot a cross-compiled 2.4.6 kernel: lib/modules/2.4.6-rmk1-np2/pcmcia/sa1100_cs.o: couldn't find the kernel version the module was rds: no socket drivers loaded! |
| 20:48:18 | frizz | Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ pas cardmgr. |
| 20:54:43 | nikos | frizz: Be sure you have modules in /lib/modules/<kernel version>... crap |
| 20:54:46 | nikos | too late |
| 21:57:19 | DragonEagle | is back |
| 22:05:34 | dizee | ls |