| 00:20:06 | CmdrChalupa | sjohnson: just wondering, would you possibly have the kernel config file for the kernel from your feed, or was that nikos? |
| 00:21:40 | sjohnson | http://208.191.248.1/ipaq/feed/config |
| 00:44:44 | CmdrChalupa | sjohnson: thank you! =) |
| 03:18:46 | pkomarek | what is the difference between fstroke and xstroke? |
| 03:33:06 | mowse | Any headway on the elusive ""eth0: command 0x580 0 did not complete!" error? |
| 07:29:28 | SleepingDragon | is away: 'night all |
| 08:05:46 | breed | I'm trying to compile the kernel sources for familiar. (I'm working on the aironet driver.) Where can I get the .config used in the familiar distribution? |
| 09:45:56 | _Axu_ | hi folks :) |
| 11:16:28 | bisscuitt | hey all ! |
| 12:09:08 | CmdrChalupa | wow...I didn't realize that a pcmcia module (that I compiled and threw in) could repartition your ipaq |
| 12:09:54 | CmdrChalupa | sjohnson: What was the size and offset we wanted for the root partition? 14000 was one of the numbers |
| 12:11:37 | sjohnson | base 0x140000 and size 0xec0000 |
| 12:34:43 | CmdrChalupa | why does the bootldr use xmodem? Does zmodem have too large a footprint? |
| 12:38:04 | nikos | CmdrChalupa: The best answer I can give you is that the bootloader will use zmodem when you provide a patch. ;) |
| 12:38:11 | CmdrChalupa | haha |
| 12:38:31 | CmdrChalupa | just as soon as I get a devel environment set up |
| 12:38:40 | nikos | CmdrChalupa: Cool |
| 12:38:58 | CmdrChalupa | of course, I know nothing about zmodem, but I can learn :) |
| 12:39:20 | nikos | CmdrChalupa: I'm not sure its worth the effort though, in the long run the use of the bootloader for flashing will be deprecated in preference to flashing from a running Linux. |
| 12:40:12 | nikos | CmdrChalupa: The eventual install path will involve booting a Linux ramdisk over CE, then flashing flashrom from the running Linux ramdisk system. |
| 12:48:24 | BiSScuiTT | hey all ! |
| 12:48:30 | nikos | Hi |
| 12:48:43 | BiSScuiTT | anybody know how i can get my IR port working in linux on the iPAQ ? |
| 12:49:18 | BiSScuiTT | i want to setup a pppd connection via my IR port to my Nokia 9110. |
| 12:50:40 | BiSScuiTT | i take it nobody can help then ? |
| 12:51:45 | nikos | BiSScuiTT: You might want to try the greater population in #handhelds.org. |
| 12:54:02 | BiSScuiTT | ok, cheers : ) |
| 12:55:13 | CmdrChalupa | *sigh* I need to params save after creating partitions, don't I? |
| 12:58:43 | nikos | CmdrChalupa: Yep |
| 12:58:54 | nikos | CmdrChalupa: That's a mistake I have made. |
| 13:05:21 | CmdrChalupa | any suggestions on what file I should modify to create /tmp and /var at boot? |
| 13:07:01 | CmdrChalupa | because I like /mnt/ramfs/tmp and without /mnt/ramfs/var/run/ modules.dep can't be created |
| 13:11:12 | CmdrChalupa | also, how do I generate an ssh host key...someone asked this yesterday |
| 13:11:40 | | i heard ssh was at http://www.openssh.org |
| 13:11:40 | CmdrChalupa | ibot1: ssh |
| 13:11:46 | | CmdrChalupa: excuse me? |
| 13:11:46 | CmdrChalupa | ibot1: ssh key |
| 13:11:52 | | CmdrChalupa: i'm not following you... |
| 13:11:52 | CmdrChalupa | ibot1: ssh_host_key |
| 13:12:00 | | CmdrChalupa: i'm not following you... |
| 13:12:00 | CmdrChalupa | ibot1: ssh-keygen |
| 13:13:07 | | i think ssh keys is ssh-keygen -b 512 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key -N ''; ssh-keygen -d -b 512 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key -N '' |
| 13:13:07 | sjohnson | ibot1: ssh keys |
| 13:14:11 | sjohnson | CmdrChalupa: The /linuxrc mounts /mnt/ramfs and creates the /tmp and /var directories. |
| 13:22:15 | CmdrChalupa | okay, for some reason, linuxrc doesn't |
| 13:22:26 | CmdrChalupa | er, doesn't mount /mnt/ramfs apparently |
| 13:22:39 | CmdrChalupa | it's there for it to do in the file, it just doesn't happen |
| 13:22:53 | CmdrChalupa | (it's too early to read shell scripts :P ) |
| 13:32:01 | sjohnson | CmdrChalupa: Make sure that you have the ramfs.o module. |
| 13:43:32 | CmdrChalupa | kay |
| 13:45:51 | CmdrChalupa | I wouldn't expect usbnet to be slowish |
| 13:56:12 | CmdrChalupa | sjohnson: what's your feed's url again |
| 13:56:22 | CmdrChalupa | bookmarked it on the wrong systems |
| 13:56:31 | sjohnson | http://208.191.248.1/ipaq/feed/ |
| 14:04:50 | | CmdrChalupa: sorry... |
| 14:04:50 | CmdrChalupa | ibot1: let |
| 14:04:54 | | CmdrChalupa: huh? |
| 14:04:54 | CmdrChalupa | ibot1: led |
| 14:05:06 | CmdrChalupa | okay, does anyone know what ipk the led tool is located in? |
| 14:06:07 | sjohnson | h3600-utils |
| 15:01:50 | mallum | is away: going home ..... |
| 15:23:15 | sjohnson | is away: lunch |
| 16:20:43 | fad|fwr | lo |
| 16:21:10 | fad|fwr | :) anyone feel like explaining to me the difference between deep sleep, standby etc? |
| 16:21:26 | DragonEagle | is away: bad bad zute |
| 16:27:46 | DragonEagle | is back |
| 16:33:44 | nikos | fad|fwr: In what context? |
| 16:35:58 | nikos | fad|fwr: My definitions are: sleep is when the hardware maintains RAM and little else, but the software has little notion that anything has happened. Suspend is a software thing where the RAM and state is stored on some permanent media and the operating system and hardware actually shuts down. The operating system then restores RAM etc from the stored copy. We only use sleep with the iPAQ. |
| 16:36:13 | fad|fwr | thx |
| 16:36:25 | fad|fwr | um |
| 16:36:30 | fad|fwr | whats deep sleep mode then? |
| 16:36:49 | fad|fwr | and sleep is what i get when i hit the power button> |
| 16:37:31 | nikos | fad|fwr: I have no idea what you mean by deep sleep. |
| 16:37:57 | fad|fwr | good |
| 16:38:12 | fad|fwr | so to turn it off im supposed to use power button? |
| 16:38:26 | fad|fwr | eej |
| 16:38:33 | nikos | fad|fwr: Are we talking about in the contxt of Familiar on the ipaq? |
| 16:38:38 | fad|fwr | sorry was wearing tag from anotehr network |
| 16:38:53 | fad | yep |
| 16:39:17 | nikos | fad: The power button puts the ipaq to sleep. It doesn't have any effect on on or off. |
| 16:39:45 | fad | if it crashes i reboot with the power disconnect button thing? |
| 16:40:21 | nikos | fad: If you have no choice, then either the reset button on the bottom, or the switch behind the sliding door on the bottom. Yes. You should not need to do that though. |
| 16:40:31 | fad | ah |
| 16:40:38 | fad | well i have been travelling without a computer |
| 16:41:23 | fad | so i was having to reboot like that occasionally |
| 16:41:53 | fad | lol, getting different window managers to close and then open other ones was kindof annoying without another machine |
| 16:43:59 | fad | eventually it wouldnt boot so I've had to reflash |
| 16:43:59 | fad | is that my fault for rebooting like that? |
| 16:46:52 | mowse | hey nikos, have you read the threads regarding ethernet devices and the ""eth0: command 0x5800 did not complete!" error? |
| 16:49:24 | nikos | mowse: Yes, but I don't have any useful comments I'm afraid. |
| 16:49:53 | mowse | fair enough :) |
| 16:50:08 | mowse | nothing a few beers and staring at kernel source can't fix. |
| 16:51:23 | CmdrChalupa | mowse: I have run into those annoying problems too |
| 16:51:37 | CmdrChalupa | mowse: have you seen it with anything but wired NICs? |
| 16:52:41 | mowse | CmdrChalupa: I've tested the SMC2632W, DLINK DWL650, Cisco Aironet 340, 3com 3c580d, and the new intel cardbus card (which I new woudlnt work anyhow, but tested for sanity) |
| 16:52:54 | mowse | I've noted the same results with 802.11 and Ethernet cards |
| 16:53:07 | mowse | I have a feeling that it has to do with a specific kernel option in 2.4.6 |
| 16:53:10 | CmdrChalupa | mowse: Were you using the linux-wlan-ng modules for the SMC2632w? |
| 16:53:13 | mowse | but I'm far from positive |
| 16:53:18 | mowse | yeah |
| 16:53:23 | CmdrChalupa | okay |
| 16:53:30 | CmdrChalupa | I'm compiling 2.4.7 right now |
| 16:53:35 | CmdrChalupa | we'll see what I get there |
| 16:53:47 | mowse | could you fire me your .o files for 2.4.7 ? |
| 16:53:55 | mowse | I can test it here as well |
| 16:53:58 | CmdrChalupa | as soon as they compile |
| 16:54:06 | mowse | cool, thanks. |
| 16:54:21 | CmdrChalupa | I'm gonna do a kernel-pcmcia-wlan cocktail compile |
| 16:54:34 | CmdrChalupa | one after another |
| 16:54:52 | mowse | there's a kernel option: "enable_wol" |
| 16:54:55 | mowse | typically set to "1" |
| 16:55:05 | mowse | I've heard that if it's set to "0", it may fix the problem |
| 16:55:32 | mowse | rather, not using WOL altogether fixes the problem |
| 16:58:12 | mowse | http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-kernel/message/236945 |
| 17:44:37 | sjohnson | is away: I'm busy. |
| 17:44:41 | sjohnson | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 19:09:03 | CmdrChalupa | mowse: Have you seen the changelog for the latest greatest pcmcia-cs? |
| 19:09:23 | CmdrChalupa | 3.1.28...came out august 21 |
| 19:09:57 | CmdrChalupa | mowse: http://sourceforge.net/shownotes.php?group_id=2405&release_id=47379 |
| 19:14:36 | mowse | CmdrChalupa: excellent, I'll check that out in just a moment |
| 19:15:10 | mowse | however, august 21 isnt for another 11 days :) |
| 19:15:33 | CmdrChalupa | er, sorry, august 1 |
| 19:15:36 | CmdrChalupa | :P |
| 19:15:48 | mowse | heheh nice |
| 19:15:59 | mowse | that would be -11 day warez :> |
| 19:16:42 | mowse | thing #54,345 that I hate: hold music that is piped in over radio, so that it contains massive static during bad weather. |
| 20:31:51 | DragonEagle_away | is away: errand |
| 21:05:30 | DragonEagle_away | is back |
| 21:24:39 | DragonEagle_away | is away: errand |
| 21:48:51 | DragonEagle_away | is back |