| 02:44:11 | DragonEagle | is away: the bad habbit strikes again |
| 02:48:48 | DragonEagle | is back |
| 04:07:36 | DragonEagle | is away: breaktime |
| 06:17:13 | BZFlag | running familiar on a TuxScreen ;-) |
| 06:54:14 | DragonEagle | is back |
| 07:45:34 | SleepingDragon | is away: good night all |
| 15:29:47 | nikos | nelson: 4MB for gtk-menu? I don't understand. |
| 16:12:11 | mallum | is away: playing games .... |
| 16:44:48 | mandrake | hello hello |
| 16:45:55 | nikos | Hi mandrake |
| 16:46:08 | mandrake | I'm going to go buy an ipaq for myself today |
| 16:46:14 | mandrake | we've been playing with them at work making them talk |
| 16:46:20 | mandrake | and I decided I'm going to go buy one today |
| 16:46:26 | mandrake | I need one for myself |
| 16:46:34 | mandrake | note: blackbox takes up too much screen real estate on the ipaq |
| 16:46:42 | mandrake | you should think about using something custom |
| 16:47:06 | mandrake | (I will likely hack up something soon-ish) |
| 16:47:56 | nikos | mandrake: We are now using ion. |
| 16:48:08 | mandrake | also, since I haven't really looked too hard at the display on it, is it a 4/4/4 display? |
| 16:48:16 | mandrake | (12bpp) |
| 16:48:25 | nikos | mandrake: ion looks like a dead-end though, and we are open to suggestions. Various people are working on it. |
| 16:48:28 | mandrake | that's what all the docs lead me to believe |
| 16:48:55 | nikos | mandrake: the hardware is 444 I think, the framebuffer driver handles 565 though (I think that's right). |
| 16:49:01 | mandrake | hrmm |
| 16:49:03 | mandrake | interesting |
| 16:49:12 | mandrake | I hope their conversions don't suck |
| 16:49:13 | mandrake | :) |
| 16:49:37 | nikos | One thing about the framebuffer on the ipaq, it runs at full sdram speed. So it is extremely fast. |
| 16:49:39 | mandrake | (the ones SGI uses do) |
| 16:49:46 | mandrake | cool. |
| 16:49:58 | mandrake | I intend to dump a bunch of fun stuff on mine |
| 16:50:03 | nikos | Not to say the driver couldn't use some optimization, but it may not be a big deal. |
| 16:50:19 | mandrake | I will probably build a paired-down build of E for it |
| 16:50:45 | mandrake | since I know I can make it run in next to no memory |
| 16:50:58 | mandrake | and I can ditch the screen real estate problems I'm having |
| 16:51:32 | mandrake | I got pretty excited about the possibilities when I was playing with the one here |
| 16:51:41 | mandrake | (we've got two already, one with linux, one with wince) |
| 16:52:27 | mandrake | and build in some nice custom app management stuff |
| 16:52:48 | mandrake | as well as make my image browser work well in 240x320 |
| 16:53:22 | mandrake | I wasn't involved in installing the one running linux here, how likely am I to mess that up? |
| 16:54:30 | nikos | mandrake: The only dangerous step is the bootlaoder flash. As long as you use care, it is very easy. |
| 16:54:35 | mandrake | it is a little disappointing that you don't have a line-in on the ipaq without hackign the stereo out to be mono out and mono in |
| 16:54:47 | mandrake | because speech recognition on the built-in mic bites |
| 16:54:59 | mandrake | because it's poor quality |
| 16:55:03 | nikos | True. |
| 16:55:25 | mandrake | 1 more important question |
| 16:55:26 | mandrake | :) |
| 16:55:45 | mandrake | the dual pcmcia adapter, I noticed there was something saying it wouldn't work with familiar 0.4 |
| 16:57:35 | mandrake | updating the kernel on it would fix it? |
| 16:57:38 | sjohnson | mandrake: The kernel in stock v0.4 doesn't work with the dual sleeve. |
| 16:57:52 | sjohnson | You need to ugrade to at least 2.4.4 |
| 16:58:25 | mandrake | right. the only issue is how much spare space do you have on that tiny flashrom without having a sleeve on it |
| 16:58:34 | mandrake | (to update the kernel) |
| 16:59:23 | sjohnson | mandrake: I usually have enough extra room to load a modules for a new kernel |
| 16:59:34 | mandrake | okay |
| 16:59:36 | mandrake | good enough |
| 16:59:51 | sjohnson | mandrake: But it really depends on what and how much you load into flash. |
| 16:59:53 | mandrake | although we have a single-card sleeve here too that I could probably borrow long enough to put it on |
| 16:59:59 | mandrake | I am hoping to load the new kernel first |
| 17:00:06 | mandrake | since I haven't done anything yet |
| 17:00:08 | mandrake | anyways |
| 17:00:13 | mandrake | thanks for the help, I'll return shortly :) |
| 17:00:27 | mandrake | (I'm sure I'll have more questions) |
| 17:40:16 | sjohnson | is away: I've lost my mind, and I've gone to look for it... |
| 18:38:38 | mandrake | okay |
| 18:38:43 | mandrake | I just bought the 64 mb ipaq |
| 18:38:44 | mandrake | :) |
| 18:38:59 | mandrake | I'm letting my wife play around with wince before I hose it |
| 18:39:04 | a7r | hah. |
| 18:39:07 | pkomarek | I did the same thing! |
| 18:39:24 | a7r | yeah.. WinCE is good to play with, to realize how much it sucks. |
| 18:39:34 | pkomarek | But after my wife had 5 minutes with it, she told me it was time to ditch wince. I guess she got bored. |
| 18:39:46 | mandrake | I'll put linux on it right after she's done playing |
| 18:40:12 | mandrake | I've put together a slimmed down E to drop on it |
| 18:40:34 | a7r | mandrake: I started work on getting Evas up.. |
| 18:40:38 | mandrake | really? |
| 18:40:38 | mandrake | cool. |
| 18:40:46 | mandrake | that was the next thing I was going to do :) |
| 18:46:33 | a7r | it has issues still, and I've been busy, but I think I'm going to be using Evas to prototype Salamander, so I get get the hell off Gtk. |
| 18:46:33 | mandrake | I've got a version of flite (speech synthesis) running on the other thing |
| 18:46:33 | mandrake | this is the third ipaq we have here |
| 18:46:33 | mandrake | but it's MINE not works :) |
| 18:46:33 | mandrake | which is why I bought the 64 meg version |
| 18:46:33 | mandrake | AND the 99 dollar warranty where if it stops working I can trade it in |
| 18:46:33 | a7r | v0.6 and beyond are going to include speech synthesis by default, which will be pretty elite. |
| 18:46:34 | mandrake | because when the version with the compact flash comes out |
| 18:46:34 | a7r | mandrake: did you see the new 128 MB upgrades? |
| 18:46:34 | mandrake | mine will accidentally stop working |
| 18:46:34 | mandrake | :) |
| 18:46:34 | mandrake | a7r: no! shit I just bought this one today |
| 18:46:41 | mandrake | at 16mb we can fit a really nice voice |
| 18:46:47 | mandrake | at 8mb we can do okay though |
| 18:47:23 | mandrake | Alan is the festival maintainer |
| 18:47:28 | mandrake | he's sitting about 10 feet from me |
| 18:47:40 | mandrake | I work for a speech technology company now |
| 18:48:06 | a7r | mandrake: cool, I'm down for whatever.. what's the API like for interacting with it? |
| 18:48:45 | mandrake | it's a C library |