| 00:00:34 | munehiro | static tdb_off tdb_allocate(TDB_CONTEXT *tdb, tdb_len length) |
| 00:00:34 | munehiro | { |
| 00:00:34 | munehiro | tdb_off offset, rec_ptr, last_ptr; |
| 00:00:41 | munehiro | this is the decl |
| 00:00:58 | munehiro | then it's passed with &operator |
| 00:01:44 | dneuer | I'd have to look at the source. Where'd you get it? |
| 00:01:45 | munehiro | struct list_struct rec, lastrec, newrec; |
| 00:02:25 | munehiro | i searched them on freshmeat |
| 00:02:26 | munehiro | wait |
| 00:03:53 | munehiro | http://freshmeat.net/redir/pppd/8313/url_tgz/ppp-2.4.1.tar.gz |
| 00:04:00 | munehiro | ops... the redirector |
| 00:04:06 | munehiro | however should work |
| 00:04:12 | munehiro | Author: |
| 00:04:12 | munehiro | Paul Mackerras <paulus at linuxcare dot com> |
| 00:04:20 | munehiro | mail ? :) |
| 00:04:53 | dneuer | munehiro: you compiled this from source to begin with? |
| 00:05:29 | munehiro | yup.. but i had to hack the makefile to crosscompile succesfully |
| 00:05:53 | munehiro | no mailing list for pppd |
| 00:07:33 | dneuer | munehiro: you should see if there's a precompiled one from debian-arm, and use that |
| 00:07:42 | munehiro | i did |
| 00:07:48 | munehiro | and i got the same result |
| 00:07:51 | dneuer | hmmm |
| 00:08:04 | munehiro | the ipkg in familiar runs the 2.4.0 beta |
| 00:08:08 | dneuer | and people are using this on the 36xx series? |
| 00:08:18 | munehiro | seems yes |
| 00:08:29 | dneuer | the familiar one does the same thing? |
| 00:08:38 | munehiro | yup |
| 00:09:00 | dneuer | hmmm. Well, if I get time, I may glance at it and see what's up |
| 00:09:25 | munehiro | i searched in handhelds.org mailing list |
| 00:09:44 | munehiro | i found one message about another user with the same problem |
| 00:09:50 | munehiro | but with no replies |
| 00:10:05 | munehiro | i contacted him... now i'm waiting for a reply |
| 00:10:51 | dneuer | I gotta go, but if I figure anything out, I'll let you know |
| 00:10:53 | dneuer | bye |
| 00:10:59 | munehiro | many thanks |
| 00:11:55 | dneuer_AWAY | is away: being a good husband, son, & host |
| 00:31:22 | mindrape | werd |
| 00:32:03 | mindrape | i got suspend figured out!@#$!@# |
| 00:32:15 | mindrape | 2.14.14 bootldr has something to do with it |
| 00:32:26 | mindrape | as soon as i switched back to 2.14.5 bootldr, it works properly now |
| 00:35:06 | CmdrChalupa | mindrape: how was suspend acting weird? |
| 00:41:08 | munehiro | this kernel sucks |
| 00:41:25 | munehiro | aiee... killing interrupt handler |
| 00:42:57 | munehiro | ok |
| 00:43:05 | munehiro | another linux ipaq installation gone |
| 00:43:42 | mph | so what's up munehiro? |
| 00:43:49 | mph | bad version? |
| 00:44:03 | munehiro | i was installing xserver-tiny with a simple ipkg install file.ipk |
| 00:44:09 | munehiro | and the kernel crashed |
| 00:44:21 | mph | ouch |
| 00:44:22 | munehiro | now if i reboot i obtain only kernel panics |
| 00:44:56 | munehiro | so i need to reinstall everything |
| 00:45:19 | jacques | munehiro: why not just re-install the kernel? |
| 00:45:34 | munehiro | i think the fs is corrupted |
| 00:45:54 | munehiro | now i give a try at familiar-complete |
| 00:46:42 | munehiro | where can i find a 2.4.3 kernel for 3130 ? |
| 00:47:37 | munehiro | putting linux on ipaq is a patience game |
| 00:47:56 | dneuer_AWAY | is back (gone 00:36:00) |
| 00:48:13 | dneuer | munehiro: what does the panic text say? |
| 00:48:59 | munehiro | too much stuff to copy by hand |
| 00:49:06 | munehiro | however... |
| 00:49:24 | munehiro | my personal idea is |
| 00:49:24 | dneuer | what's the last thing before the panic and the first text of the panic |
| 00:49:38 | munehiro | something very bad has happened |
| 00:49:57 | munehiro | i was installing xserver-tiny ipkg |
| 00:50:11 | munehiro | just issued a plain ipkg install file.ipk command |
| 00:50:24 | munehiro | and then a lot of messages... |
| 00:50:32 | munehiro | and when i say a lot... |
| 00:50:39 | munehiro | i mean _a_lot_ :) |
| 00:50:51 | dneuer | what bootldr are you using? |
| 00:51:08 | munehiro | that suggested for 3130 |
| 00:51:12 | dneuer | which is? |
| 00:51:15 | munehiro | i found a doc |
| 00:51:17 | munehiro | wait.. |
| 00:51:24 | mindrape | CmdrChalupa: suspend didn't work, my ipaq would suspend andi would have to do a soft reset |
| 00:51:34 | mindrape | or if i turned it off, it would require a soft reset |
| 00:51:46 | mindrape | i just verified it by putting 2.14.14 back on and removing it again |
| 00:51:56 | CmdrChalupa | mindrape: could you still see the screen and were unable to use it? |
| 00:52:07 | mindrape | CmdrChalupa: sometimes yes, it was slightly faded |
| 00:52:11 | mindrape | but it would not respond |
| 00:52:19 | munehiro | bootldr-0000-2.14.5-bigkernel-mono from familiar |
| 00:52:22 | munehiro | this |
| 00:52:36 | dneuer | you should use 2.14.8 |
| 00:52:50 | dneuer | earlier ones set the RAM wrong on the 31xx's |
| 00:52:51 | CmdrChalupa | hmm...I'm going to have to find the cvs tag |
| 00:53:03 | munehiro | reflashing the bootloader ? |
| 00:53:06 | munehiro | argh ... |
| 00:53:13 | dneuer | what's your linuxargs bootldr param? |
| 00:53:18 | munehiro | kernel panic |
| 00:53:21 | munehiro | hm |
| 00:53:23 | nelson | <a7r> cworth: push to incoming until I coordinate with nelson tonight.. he's using ipkg.py, and we will probably have a system together RSN. |
| 00:54:06 | CmdrChalupa | I have a 3600 and it acted the same way with 2.14.Latest cvs version |
| 00:54:22 | munehiro | linuxargs are |
| 00:54:44 | munehiro | noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock3 init=/linuxrc console=ttySA0 |
| 00:54:45 | mindrape | dneuer: my linuxargs? |
| 00:55:01 | mindrape | CmdrChalupa: are you familiar with this issue? |
| 00:55:06 | dneuer | mindrape: no, sorry, was talking to munehiro |
| 00:55:51 | CmdrChalupa | mindrape: I see it |
| 00:55:54 | dneuer | munehiro: w/ your bootldr version, unless you add mem=16 to the args, the kernel thinks you have 32MB of ram, which could be bad |
| 00:56:01 | munehiro | oh.. |
| 00:56:03 | munehiro | good |
| 00:56:06 | munehiro | very good |
| 00:56:14 | dneuer | munehiro: bootldr 2.14.8 gets it right |
| 00:56:39 | CmdrChalupa | mindrape: I had no idea what the problem was, I just kinda worked around it |
| 00:56:55 | dneuer | munehiro: also, what root fs image did you flash? |
| 00:57:02 | munehiro | i hate reflashing the bootldr |
| 00:57:16 | munehiro | a familiar-bootstrap |
| 00:57:24 | munehiro | plain |
| 00:57:25 | munehiro | version 0.4 |
| 00:57:29 | dneuer | munehiro: you made it yourself? |
| 00:57:43 | munehiro | nope |
| 00:57:45 | munehiro | i just changed modules |
| 00:57:54 | munehiro | since my kernel from cvs was a 2.4.6 |
| 00:58:03 | munehiro | familiar provides 2.4.3 modules |
| 00:58:23 | dneuer | munehiro: ahhh. You can't use the regular images, as they use a different JFFS2 eraseblock size |
| 00:58:24 | mindrape | CmdrChalupa: how did you work around it? |
| 00:58:36 | munehiro | ogh |
| 00:58:37 | mindrape | CmdrChalupa: nikos strongly recommended i downgrade the bootldr |
| 00:59:01 | munehiro | seems has a lot to learn about this brick |
| 00:59:01 | dneuer | munehiro: the docs about the 31xx talk about using mkfs.jffs2 to make a new image |
| 00:59:05 | mindrape | now i'm using kernel 2.4.6, which seems faster, but that is probably just me |
| 00:59:07 | munehiro | dneuer: i did, in fact |
| 00:59:17 | munehiro | dneuer: i created a custom jffs2 image |
| 00:59:20 | munehiro | in the first time |
| 00:59:28 | munehiro | but i had some other problems |
| 00:59:45 | munehiro | and some guys suggested me to use a plain "production" jffs2 image |
| 00:59:47 | mindrape | now i'm using 2.14.5, is there a reason to use 2.14.8? |
| 01:00:00 | CmdrChalupa | mindrape: resetting the device |
| 01:01:01 | mindrape | are you in the position to downgrade your bootldr and see if that resolves your issue |
| 01:01:10 | mindrape | do you use straight blackbox or move toward qpe? |
| 01:01:27 | munehiro | ftp://familiar.handhelds.org/pub/bootldr/bootldr-2.14.8.tgz |
| 01:01:33 | munehiro | is this package good ? |
| 01:01:57 | dneuer_AWAY | is away: BACK IN A MINUTE |
| 01:01:58 | mindrape | i was using both before i sent the ipaq in for repair (short circuited)...now i'm debating which to use, qpe is kinda of a hog in terms of space |
| 01:03:15 | CmdrChalupa | mindrape: I am not in front of a cross-compiling toolchain (I will only compile...) |
| 01:03:45 | | nikos was last seen on #familiar 3 hours, 33 minutes and 42 seconds ago, saying: dneuer: I think it's in there somewhere. [Mon Aug 20 22:30:03 2001] |
| 01:03:45 | CmdrChalupa | ibot seen nikos |
| 01:04:10 | mindrape | i'm going to test out the 2.14.8 bootldr |
| 01:04:23 | CmdrChalupa | mindrape: let me know how it works out |
| 01:11:37 | munehiro | i'm tired |
| 01:11:47 | munehiro | falling asleep |
| 01:11:52 | munehiro | need bed |
| 01:12:37 | munehiro | see you tomorrow |
| 01:12:49 | munehiro | dneuer_AWAY: thanks for suggestions... |
| 01:18:39 | mindrape | ok here we go... |
| 01:19:42 | sachac | mindrape: qpe does look very pretty, though.. |
| 01:19:57 | sachac | mindrape: I like its input methods. <shrug> |
| 01:21:34 | mindrape | that it does, but it's still a hog =( |
| 01:21:49 | mindrape | i just need to scrap some dough and get a 128mb compact flash |
| 01:22:44 | mindrape | now i'm not sure if this is the result of using 2.4.6 kernel, but it no longer comes back on just by touching the screen, i just have to turn it on (no biggie) |
| 01:49:54 | joyjas | I'm having a serious (Well I think so anyway) modules problem upon bootup I get the following messages kmod: runaway modprobe loop assumed and stopped |
| 01:49:55 | joyjas | modprobe: modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.3-rmk2-np1/mod |
| 01:49:55 | joyjas | ules.dep (No such file or directory) |
| 01:50:13 | joyjas | this message goes on for a while. But the link and the file are there. |
| 01:51:48 | mindrape | hmm |
| 01:51:54 | mindrape | i think i'm getting something similar |
| 01:57:23 | joyjas | Can you access your cards |
| 01:57:28 | joyjas | ? |
| 01:58:10 | mindrape | i don't have any cards to access (yet) |
| 01:58:29 | mindrape | at the moment i'm back to trying to figure out how to unload stowd before it goes into suspend mode |
| 01:58:33 | mindrape | and reload it when it comes out of it |
| 01:59:04 | joyjas | Sorry can't help you with that either. |
| 02:04:53 | joyjas | Well something seems to have fixed itself the battery went flat so I plugged the power back in and hey presto I can access my cards. Unfortunately I don't want to have to wait for batteries to go flat each time. |
| 02:09:04 | mindrape | did you try unloading and reloading your modules? |
| 02:09:51 | joyjas | no |
| 02:25:28 | nelson | a7r: seen a7r? |
| 02:51:29 | mindrape | is there a way to backup the flash? |
| 02:57:03 | Morn | I read in the docs that there is a command in the osloader I think it is that does this... It creates 4 4M files and it take them off one at a time to make room for the next (you could do this to back up the wince os before you load linux) |
| 02:58:01 | mindrape | but isn't that for wince |
| 02:58:19 | mindrape | i got a pristine environment that i like to preserve |
| 02:58:56 | Morn | hmmm... is the rom a filesystem? you could dd it to the ram... |
| 02:59:27 | mindrape | hmm |
| 06:53:22 | DragonEagle | root |
| 06:53:26 | DragonEagle | doh! |
| 08:21:46 | DragonEagle | is away: SleepingDragon |
| 08:22:31 | SleepingDragon | is away: good night all |
| 09:21:38 | AcidCrash | hi |
| 09:23:33 | mpakula | ls |
| 09:28:16 | mpakula | anybody: where can i specify mount -t so after rebooting it mounts it back again |
| 10:23:51 | mpakula | anybody: where can i specify mount -t vfat /mnt.... so after rebooting it mounts it back again |
| 10:40:44 | sachac | mpakula: /etc/fstab? |
| 10:44:11 | mpakula | sachac: shall i just edit fstab to add the line '/dev/hda1 /mnt/hda vfat 0.0' at the end ? |
| 10:46:01 | sachac | mpakula: Yup, that's the idea. 0 0, not sure if . is okay. =) |
| 10:54:50 | mpakula | sachac: maybe you know how orientation mode (xrandr) works on blackbox ? mine fails on blackbox but works on ion ;(( |
| 10:55:17 | sachac | mpakula: I'm using QPE and it rotates fine, but it's not blackbox... |
| 11:16:31 | AcidCrash | what's qpe? |
| 11:19:21 | sachac | AcidCrash: QT pocket ed? |
| 11:19:59 | AcidCrash | ok |
| 11:24:12 | mpakula | Who wrote pygps.ipk ? |
| 11:28:26 | AcidCrash | mpakula: linux on ipaq looks like this screenshots http://www.lisa.de/pages/de/mlinux/mlinux_details.html ? |
| 11:33:59 | mpakula | AcidCrash: dunno I know anything about lisa on ipaq sorry |
| 14:31:25 | nelson | mpakula: I wrote pygps. |
| 14:52:22 | mindrape_ | hmm |
| 15:18:20 | mpakula | nelson: could you post me some IPs that are needed for the data collection in pygps ;o) |
| 15:21:35 | Disconnect | anyone know what profiler.o is (a module) and if I need it and hwtimer.o? |
| 15:24:23 | Kero | wanna profile your kernel? then you need profiler.o (iirc) |
| 15:26:27 | Disconnect | Kero: ..and if I don't? |
| 15:31:01 | Kero | drop the module |
| 16:51:14 | nelson | ibot: message for mpakula: what do you mean "IPs needed for the data collection in pygps"? |
| 18:26:13 | TuxMP | bah |
| 19:33:05 | mindrape_ | sighs |
| 19:33:17 | Morn | What's wrong? |
| 19:33:25 | mindrape_ | anyone know which package pmhelper is in? |
| 19:33:55 | mindrape_ | Morn: i'm trying to figure out how to get a script to run when the unit comes out of suspension |
| 19:34:07 | Morn | cool |
| 19:35:21 | mindrape_ | is there a runlevel associated with suspension? |
| 19:35:34 | mandrake | that's all handled by your apm scripts |
| 19:35:37 | mandrake | if you have apm installed |
| 19:36:44 | mindrape_ | mandrake: yes i do have it installed, but i'm not sure where those scripts are |
| 19:37:13 | mindrape_ | i thought it was supposed to be /etc/apm |
| 19:44:49 | mindrape_ | mandrake: do you know where these scripts are? |
| 19:46:13 | mandrake | actually I don't :) |
| 19:49:39 | mindrape_ | ok how bout this, what are the ways to get a script to run when the unit comes out of suspension? |
| 19:50:30 | nikos | /sbin/pm_helper |
| 19:51:55 | mindrape_ | nikos: btw you suggestion on downgrading from 2.14.14 to 2.14.8 worked |
| 19:52:11 | mindrape_ | nikos: i don't see pm_helper on muh unit, i use the task-bootstrap image, is it on the complete image? |
| 19:52:33 | mindrape_ | or could you name the package it's a part of? |
| 19:55:01 | nikos | mindrape_: See http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/linux/kernel/arch/arm/mach-sa1100/power.c?rev=1.13&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup |
| 19:55:17 | nikos | mindrape_: It is called by the kernel, I don't know that one currently exists. |
| 19:55:33 | nikos | mindrape_: The exact workings of this have yet to be worked out. |
| 19:57:26 | mindrape_ | meaning? |
| 19:58:10 | mindrape_ | oh |
| 19:58:12 | nikos | mindrape_: Meaning there is no such script currently. |
| 19:58:13 | mindrape_ | it's a script? |
| 19:58:22 | nikos | It could be anything as far as I know. |
| 19:58:28 | mindrape_ | so all i have to do is define pm_helper in /sbin |
| 19:58:31 | mindrape_ | ahhhh |
| 19:58:34 | mindrape_ | let's give that whirl |
| 19:58:45 | nikos | Its a little more complex than that, see the code above. |
| 20:01:43 | mindrape_ | yes it does run the script, does it run my script to reset the keyboard, no =( |
| 20:03:13 | mindrape_ | well it does run it, but just doesn't work, let's read the code |
| 20:31:31 | DragonEagle | hi ion |
| 20:36:32 | mallum | is away: tea break ... |
| 20:55:08 | mindrape_ | i think i almost got it! |
| 20:55:10 | mindrape_ | woo hoo! |
| 20:58:55 | mallum | is back (gone 00:22:24) |
| 22:10:43 | mindrape_ | woohoo! |
| 22:10:45 | mindrape_ | figured it out =))) |
| 22:38:14 | DragonEagle | is away: rebooting |
| 22:43:46 | dneuer | hi |
| 22:51:06 | Disconnect | hi |
| 22:54:41 | DragonEagle | is away: dinner |
| 22:56:05 | pattieja | I didn't notice; are there any chat apps in familiar (i.e., xchat)? |
| 22:58:01 | dneuer | is away: BACK IN A MINUTE |
| 23:05:50 | dneuer | is back (gone 00:07:48) |
| 23:16:35 | dneuer | is away: doing very important things |
| 23:53:10 | DragonEagle | is back |
| 23:54:50 | Morn | welcome back DragonEagle |
| 23:55:38 | DragonEagle | thx, unfortuatley, I won't back long, just wanted to check on things while I was here :-) |
| 23:56:56 | Morn | has been wondering if it is possible to make a loader that would work via USB. |