| 00:00:14 | dc | just looking at screen shots! :D |
| 00:00:22 | sgodsell | Well I also heard someone using nfs |
| 00:00:36 | sgodsell | with intimate |
| 00:00:43 | sgodsell | and no cf card |
| 00:00:45 | dc | that's is pretty 1337 |
| 00:00:52 | sgodsell | must be slow as F$ck |
| 00:00:55 | dc | do a soft boot ;) |
| 00:00:58 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 02:27:39) |
| 00:02:58 | sgodsell | dc, the way I see it is if you want to run gcc on an iPAQ then you have a few choices |
| 00:03:07 | sgodsell | 1) get a CF card |
| 00:03:11 | sgodsell | 2) use nfs |
| 00:03:27 | dc | CF meaning? |
| 00:03:37 | jmitch | Compact Flash. |
| 00:03:41 | dc | thought so. |
| 00:05:37 | dc | what version of teh iPaq supprts Micro drive? |
| 00:06:57 | sgodsell | Sorry, back |
| 00:07:04 | sgodsell | All iPAQs |
| 00:07:20 | dc | just instead of the cf? |
| 00:08:59 | sgodsell | I am not sure I know what you mean dc instead of a CF |
| 00:09:23 | sgodsell | You mean Microdrive or Flash storage |
| 00:09:24 | sgodsell | ? |
| 00:10:57 | dc | well.whrer does it go, in the RAm slot? |
| 00:11:09 | dc | I've got some nice prices for iPaq's here. |
| 00:11:42 | sgodsell | Well if you buy an iPAQ nowadays |
| 00:11:44 | dc | can you put a mocro drive in the CF slot? |
| 00:11:50 | sgodsell | you usually get a CF sleeve |
| 00:11:57 | dc | ? |
| 00:12:17 | sgodsell | well the top end iPAQs you might get a PCMCIA sleeve |
| 00:12:33 | dc | okay, so the iPaq basicly has a slot at the top or side to slap stuff into :)? |
| 00:12:36 | sgodsell | The iPAQ has three choices of sleeves |
| 00:12:44 | dc | then you have to buy a mocrodrive adapter... |
| 00:12:47 | sgodsell | Actually a forth one now |
| 00:12:57 | dc | yes? |
| 00:13:23 | sgodsell | Well I have what is know as the travelkit from ibm |
| 00:13:34 | sgodsell | It is the pcmcia adapter |
| 00:14:05 | sgodsell | if you have a CF sleeve, then you dont need the travelkit that you can get for the microdrive |
| 00:14:32 | sgodsell | I use the my microdrive in the pcmcia slot |
| 00:14:41 | dc | oh, okay. |
| 00:15:05 | sgodsell | Oh with the single or dual sleeve there is extra batteries in those sleeves |
| 00:15:33 | dc | so it gets a bit chunky... |
| 00:15:49 | sgodsell | Well, I guess yes |
| 00:16:05 | sgodsell | But I have a power house in my hands |
| 00:16:32 | dc | hehe. ture :) |
| 00:16:58 | sgodsell | I can walk around with it and be on the net via wireless, and download to my 1Gig microdrive. |
| 00:17:08 | dc | you serious?? |
| 00:17:17 | sgodsell | Dead serious |
| 00:17:21 | dc | shit! |
| 00:17:46 | sgodsell | The iPAQ is the only PDA out there that I know of that can have two PCMCIA cards |
| 00:18:08 | sgodsell | But like I said you have a choice of which sleeve to get |
| 00:18:23 | sgodsell | There is a new bluetooth sleeve |
| 00:18:50 | sgodsell | a CF sleeve, single PCMCIA sleeve, and a dual PCMCIA sleeve |
| 00:19:26 | sgodsell | Not to mention that you can plug your cell phone into the iPAQ |
| 00:20:09 | sgodsell | I heard of one guy using IR to talk to his cell phone. From there his phone waa connected to the net. |
| 00:20:53 | sgodsell | As a famious company once said. Where do you want to go today? ;) |
| 00:26:03 | DragonEagle | is away: movie |
| 00:33:07 | jmitch | Does anyone here no how to make X startup landscape instead of portrait? |
| 00:33:10 | DragonEagle | hey sg, would you get on with it |
| 00:46:17 | sgodsell | yep |
| 00:57:30 | sjohnson | is away: I've lost my mind, and I've gone to look for it... |
| 00:57:38 | sjohnson | is back (gone 00:00:06) |
| 01:11:22 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 00:45:19) |
| 01:11:47 | dc | heh |
| 01:25:08 | a7r | I control the bootstrap.. and you can check out handhelds.org for all the information. |
| 01:25:13 | a7r | gah |
| 01:25:36 | jmitch | Whoops... |
| 01:25:46 | a7r | dctanner: I control the bootstrap.. and you can check out handhelds.org for all the information. |
| 01:25:52 | a7r | Okay.. |
| 01:25:55 | a7r | I'm tired of this client. |
| 01:26:07 | a7r | Either that, or I'm a complete retard,.. Mr. Hat. |
| 01:26:15 | jmitch | Heh.. Welp, I am convinced.. Agenda sucks.. |
| 01:26:45 | a7r | that's better. |
| 01:26:58 | sgodsell | Hey a7r |
| 01:26:58 | a7r | I played around with one, today. |
| 01:27:03 | a7r | sgodsell: Hola.. |
| 01:27:08 | sgodsell | just the man I was looking for |
| 01:27:08 | jmitch | Did you think it sucked too? |
| 01:27:16 | jmitch | I won one.. |
| 01:27:23 | a7r | jmitch: yeah, they suck. |
| 01:27:29 | jmitch | That is the only way I would have gotten one. |
| 01:27:32 | a7r | it has bugs.. |
| 01:27:34 | sgodsell | Agenda needs only 150Mhz extra to be better |
| 01:27:35 | a7r | crashes. |
| 01:27:44 | jmitch | It is just lame in general.. |
| 01:28:10 | jmitch | You can not tweak it at all.. So much for linux on a PDA.. I thought that was the point of linux on a PDA. You can mess with it.. |
| 01:28:47 | jmitch | I hope I can get my hands on an ipaq.. |
| 01:29:47 | jmitch | Welp, gotta get to dinner.. Night all, from Alaska.. |
| 01:44:09 | DragonEagle | is away: just away |
| 03:16:45 | sgodsell | is away: I need sleep ZzzzZZzzzzzzZZZzzzzZ |
| 10:42:16 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 08:58:05) |
| 11:36:36 | DragonEagle | is away: byebye |
| 11:58:59 | EGg0 | is away: (breakfast) |
| 12:17:18 | EGg0 | is back (gone 00:18:19) |
| 14:27:25 | mandrake | heh |
| 14:27:34 | mandrake | this shit is buggier than my basement |
| 14:28:18 | mandrake | but I've almost got a working 2.4.7 kernel install |
| 14:30:04 | debugger | mandrake: which ipaq? |
| 14:30:47 | mandrake | 3670 |
| 14:30:52 | mandrake | YES |
| 14:30:55 | mandrake | I have logged in! |
| 14:30:56 | mandrake | wow |
| 14:31:09 | mandrake | you have no idea how complicated it was to get it to a state where I could log in |
| 14:31:29 | mandrake | it included installing the 2.4.7 root image with the 2.4.6 kernel |
| 14:31:43 | mandrake | (serial console is broken in the 2.4.7 kernel) |
| 14:31:47 | mandrake | and then installing sshd |
| 14:31:49 | debugger | ouch |
| 14:31:54 | mandrake | then reinstalling 2.4.7 kernel |
| 14:32:27 | debugger | what does 2.4.7 has to make someone bother so much |
| 14:32:47 | mandrake | my 2.4.6 was having some other random issues |
| 14:32:54 | mandrake | although I had only been running it for about 2 hours :) |
| 14:33:00 | mandrake | I was upgrading from 2.4.3 |
| 14:33:05 | mandrake | and I wanted the dual sleeve to work |
| 14:33:10 | debugger | oh |
| 14:33:40 | mandrake | and the 2.4.6 installation base is BROKEN BROKEN BROKEN |
| 14:33:48 | mandrake | at least the 2.4.7 install base works |
| 14:34:00 | mandrake | well, except that the kernel has broken serial console |
| 14:34:21 | debugger | that hurts |
| 14:34:34 | mandrake | yeah, but I think I can live without that for right now |
| 14:34:43 | mandrake | since I can use the bootldr serial console still |
| 14:35:29 | debugger | oh once pppd is up you dont need to care anyways |
| 14:35:37 | mandrake | not using pppds |
| 14:35:38 | mandrake | pppd |
| 14:35:42 | mandrake | and I doubt that works either |
| 14:35:48 | mandrake | since there are serial issues |
| 14:35:53 | mandrake | and how do you think ppp works? |
| 14:35:53 | mandrake | :) |
| 14:36:12 | mandrake | ppp just logs in the same way you would be logging in via serial console |
| 14:36:17 | mandrake | there's no magic involved. |
| 14:36:22 | debugger | use USBnet then |
| 14:36:31 | mandrake | yes, I've had usbnet working before |
| 14:36:37 | mandrake | but I've got wireless networking now |
| 14:36:48 | debugger | hehe |
| 14:36:58 | mandrake | I want to have usbnet and wireless networking working |
| 14:37:04 | debugger | I should have said "TCP/IP" |
| 14:37:22 | mandrake | that way I can still auto-hotsync dropping it on the basestation |
| 14:37:26 | gonz | mandrake i got that - indeed i am using a simple port-redirector to surf via usb via the ipaqs wavelan ;) |
| 14:38:43 | debugger | what's auto-hotsync? |
| 14:38:51 | | try http://linux-mtd.infradead.org/ |
| 14:38:51 | debugger | ibot: jffs2 |
| 14:40:37 | mandrake | debugger: http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/ipaq%20hotsyncing |
| 14:47:14 | debugger | thanks |
| 15:30:11 | | try http://linux-mtd.infradead.org/ |
| 15:30:11 | debugger | ibot: jffs2 |
| 15:58:29 | EGg0 | is away: Eek! I'm late for a meeting! |
| 15:58:35 | EGg0 | is back (gone 00:00:04) |
| 15:58:46 | EGg0 | is away: (buying plutonium) |
| 15:59:04 | EGg0 | is back (gone 00:00:19) |
| 17:13:16 | EGg0 | is away: (time to actually do some housework) |
| 17:55:12 | nelazul | is there an ipkg for zsh? |
| 19:19:11 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 07:42:34) |
| 19:41:27 | kfree | Hi! I'm having problems about setting up an USBNet connection with my ipaq with familiar |
| 19:42:24 | MoD | kfree what is it |
| 19:42:30 | kfree | I install uhci modules without problem (modprobe uhci) |
| 19:42:53 | kfree | I also install usbnet.o without problem |
| 19:43:00 | kfree | with insmod usbnet.o |
| 19:43:11 | kfree | but no device usb0 is created. |
| 19:43:30 | MoD | do u also test it with modprobe? |
| 19:43:42 | kfree | but when I insert the old usb-net-host.o module it is created |
| 19:44:46 | kfree | The only dependencies it has are UHCI modules, and all of them ares installed |
| 19:45:05 | MoD | kfree insert it in the /etc/modules and check after reboot |
| 19:46:42 | kfree | Which is the difference between inserting it in /etc/modules+rebooting and inserting it with insmod? |
| 19:47:30 | kfree | anyway, with usb-net-host.o module the device usb0 is created, and I set up the net correctly (I think) but when I plug my ipaq I receive the next error message from kernel... |
| 19:48:03 | kfree | usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=9 (error=-110) |
| 19:49:32 | MoD | just check |
| 19:50:46 | kfree | Ok |
| 19:53:01 | kfree | thanks. I will try. |
| 20:29:36 | kfree | Hi! I'm trying to place and USBNet link between my PC and my ipaq with familiar. I load all modules like in on usbnet DOC is written, I plug the USB cable to my ipaq and I receive this msg.... |
| 20:29:53 | kfree | [c7c1d0c0] link (07c1d062) element (07c1e1e0) |
| 20:29:53 | kfree | 0: [c7c1e1e0] link (07c1e210) e0 Stalled CRC/Timeo Length=7 MaxLen=7 DT0 EndPt=0 Dev=0, PID=2d(SETUP) (buf=05fd0e80) |
| 20:29:53 | kfree | 1: [c7c1e210] link (00000001) e3 IOC Active Length=0 MaxLen=7ff DT1 EndPt=0 Dev=0, PID=69(IN) (buf=00000000) |
| 20:29:53 | kfree | usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=6 (error=-110) |
| 20:30:11 | kfree | I recive it from the kernel module to my console. |
| 20:31:58 | mandrake | kfree: 1) make sure your host is running the latest revision of the usbeth stuff |
| 20:32:10 | mandrake | kfree: 2) when that happens to me occasionally, I just unload and reload the kernel module on the ipaq |
| 20:33:25 | kfree | mandrake: You mean the latest usbnet.c module? |
| 20:34:13 | mandrake | yes |
| 20:34:19 | mandrake | read http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking |
| 20:34:59 | kfree | mandrake: Yes, I have read it, and I got the latest version from dredd.crimea.edu/ipaq/ |
| 20:35:21 | kfree | And that happens me always not ocasionally. |
| 20:35:34 | nim | Hiya. Does anyone know if xcopilot will run under Familar? and is it packaged or will I have to build it? |
| 20:35:44 | mandrake | kfree: are you sure you're installing that version on the host, not another/ |
| 20:36:39 | mandrake | bbiab |
| 20:36:40 | mandrake | eating dinner |
| 20:36:44 | kfree | mandrake: I think so. the latest version from 1-April 2001 |
| 20:37:07 | mandrake | kfree: I mean, your system may have had an older version |
| 20:37:17 | mandrake | you should make sure you are loading the one you downloaded |
| 20:37:19 | mandrake | not another one |
| 20:37:26 | mandrake | bbl |
| 20:37:47 | kfree | Yes sure... I write insmod ./usbnet.o |
| 20:38:07 | kfree | Where in local directory this is the only file I have |
| 20:39:15 | kfree | Humm... But those error msgs also appears without any module loaded... |
| 20:40:07 | kfree | Just with uhci ones |
| 20:45:42 | noriko | i heard there is a voice software |
| 20:45:44 | noriko | like |
| 20:45:51 | noriko | i type and the ipaq talks |
| 21:02:58 | Lemon | hello :) |
| 21:03:19 | EGg0 | 'lo lemon |
| 21:03:27 | Lemon | anyone know a good calendar for familiar ? |
| 21:03:38 | EGg0 | I wish. |
| 21:04:25 | Lemon | or know a good prog to install ? something fun ? |
| 21:05:33 | EGg0 | Lots of *fun* programs, nothing too terribly useful if you're the CEO of a company :) |
| 21:06:00 | Lemon | i'm not :) |
| 21:06:37 | noriko | how about the speach software? |
| 21:06:44 | Lemon | i've tried all the packages with ipkg available and all on handhelds.org |
| 21:06:50 | Lemon | the speach software ? |
| 21:06:55 | Lemon | what's the name ? |
| 21:07:15 | noriko | dunno |
| 21:07:18 | noriko | that's why i'm here |
| 21:07:29 | noriko | someone told me like a month ago |
| 21:07:36 | noriko | you type and it talks |
| 21:08:39 | Lemon | kool :) and about a voice recording soft ? |
| 21:09:06 | EGg0 | There're two recording apps in the apps wiki. |
| 21:09:41 | a7r | noriko: you're probably thinking of flite or festival. |
| 21:11:14 | Lemon | i didn't know the wiki apps :) |
| 21:11:16 | Lemon | kool :) |
| 21:11:25 | noriko | i don't know |
| 21:11:31 | noriko | i was told to try it |
| 21:11:43 | noriko | i imagine i type a sentence and it speaks it |
| 21:11:52 | noriko | now |
| 21:12:12 | noriko | if it could translate english to german with speach, that would be cool |
| 21:16:10 | Lemon | noriko : http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/flite |
| 21:17:52 | noriko | tanks |
| 21:18:48 | Lemon | i take it too :) |
| 21:22:38 | EGg0 | is away: (going to the movies) |
| 21:51:16 | noriko | the S's are very high pitch |
| 22:14:42 | DragonEagle | Morn: did you get you're ipaq to talk to the web? |
| 22:15:07 | noriko | i'm looking for a english to german text translator now |
| 22:15:24 | noriko | to see if the flite program can pronouce it |
| 22:15:29 | DragonEagle | noriko: babblefish |
| 22:15:33 | noriko | umm |
| 22:15:42 | noriko | i'd like to install it if posible |
| 22:15:46 | noriko | on the ipaq |
| 22:15:53 | noriko | without network |
| 22:16:02 | noriko | just from english to german |
| 22:16:04 | noriko | nothing else |
| 22:16:09 | DragonEagle | ah, different story, I think I something that does just that on the gnome site |
| 22:16:31 | noriko | console based though |
| 22:16:37 | DragonEagle | you'd probably have to patch it so it didn't need gnome, but it might work |
| 22:16:42 | noriko | just to feed the flite program a file |
| 22:17:04 | noriko | i just want to show my german bosses |
| 22:20:16 | noriko | no |
| 22:20:28 | noriko | seems to be made for english |
| 22:20:29 | noriko | flite |
| 22:20:38 | noriko | cause french sounded pretty bad |
| 22:20:50 | DragonEagle | je ne sais qua |
| 23:01:37 | DragonEagle | is away: dinner |