| 02:23:17 | sjohnson | is away: shower time |
| 02:23:27 | mutex | does 0.5 have usb networking enabled |
| 02:23:36 | sjohnson | yes,. |
| 02:23:49 | mutex | ah ha! lovely |
| 02:32:01 | mutex | is that supposed to be turned on by default in the future ? or a manual type of thing |
| 02:35:57 | sjohnson | dont know |
| 02:35:59 | sjohnson | is back (gone 00:12:43) |
| 02:39:03 | | i think ssh is http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/OpenSSH and http://www.openssh.org |
| 02:39:03 | mutex | ibot ssh |
| 02:39:38 | | i think ipkg is the Itsy Package Management System used by Familiar: http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/iPKG or find the source in the handhelds.org CVS http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/familiar/dist/ipkg/ |
| 02:39:38 | mutex | ibot ipkg |
| 02:40:24 | mutex | hrm, which directory on handhelds are the ipkg's in ? |
| 02:40:52 | | feeds are at http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/stable/, http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/ and ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/demo |
| 02:40:52 | sjohnson | ibot: feeds |
| 02:40:59 | mutex | ahhh... |
| 02:43:59 | mutex | thanks |
| 03:10:11 | mutex | so i just did a task-familiar-complete install, and now everything is in CAPS |
| 03:15:41 | mutex | on the terminal interface, not through ssh |
| 03:42:48 | sgodsell | is away: Need Sleep zzZZZZzZzzz |
| 06:28:15 | | wish i knew, bzflag |
| 06:28:15 | BZFlag | ibot konq? |
| 06:28:27 | | i haven't a clue, bzflag |
| 06:28:27 | BZFlag | ibot konqueror? |
| 06:28:36 | BZFlag | ibot search for konq |
| 06:28:55 | | konq-qpe is http://devel-home.kde.org/~hausmann/ipkg/ or put this url in my /etc/ipkg.conf ipkg update and then ipkg install or konqueror embedded built for QPE on Qt/embedded |
| 06:28:55 | BZFlag | ibot konq-qpe |
| 06:29:50 | BZFlag | hmmm... not there anymore. where are the latest qpe with konqueror ipkgs? |
| 06:30:31 | mutex | BZFlag: qpe.sourceforge.net |
| 06:30:38 | mutex | 1.4 is kinda flaky tho |
| 06:32:24 | | okay, BZFlag. |
| 06:32:24 | BZFlag | ibot: konq-qpe is also at http://bolug.uni-bonn.de/files/konq-e/ |
| 06:32:39 | BZFlag | so best demo is still the 1.3 rev? |
| 06:33:14 | mutex | BZFlag: yeah 1.3's package deps work... i tried 1.4 and it wouldn't isntall packages correct, i'm sure you can do it, but manually for every one |
| 06:33:29 | mutex | 1.3 you just install qpe and it takes care of the rest |
| 06:33:50 | BZFlag | url for 1.3 ipkg? |
| 06:34:10 | mutex | there is a link for each tree from the sourceforge page i believe |
| 06:34:43 | BZFlag | http://qpe.sourceforge.net/packages/ipaq/1.3.1/ <- ? |
| 06:34:59 | mutex | that looks like it |
| 06:35:45 | BZFlag | cool. waiting for bootstrap. how close is 0.5 now? |
| 06:35:54 | mutex | i just installed it.... |
| 06:35:58 | BZFlag | and? |
| 06:36:03 | mutex | it needs some work |
| 06:36:12 | mutex | far as i can tell, little things though |
| 06:36:24 | BZFlag | ok. this is for a demo, not for hacking so I think I'll stick with 0.4 |
| 06:36:33 | mutex | prolly a good idea |
| 06:36:57 | mutex | i'm out |
| 06:37:14 | BZFlag | thanx |
| 06:58:46 | | BZFlag: excuse me? |
| 06:58:46 | BZFlag | ibot: ssh-key |
| 06:58:48 | | BZFlag: i'm not following you... |
| 06:58:48 | BZFlag | ibot: ssh-keys |
| 06:58:50 | | sshkeys is ssh-keygen -b 512 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key -N ''; ssh-keygen -d -b 512 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key -N '' |
| 06:58:50 | BZFlag | ibot: sshkeys |
| 07:09:09 | BZFlag | crap... no packages file in http://qpe.sourceforge.net/packages/ipaq/1.3.1/ |
| 09:13:27 | KeHatus | hi |
| 09:53:31 | KeHatus | hi |
| 09:54:22 | a7r | hi.. |
| 10:03:27 | KeHatus | do you know is there any hard disks on PDAs or just Flash where to put Linux? |
| 10:43:44 | doccy | n1e about? |
| 10:43:58 | doccy | got a quick qtn? |
| 10:44:12 | doccy | ? |
| 12:41:10 | pattieja | is away: I'm busy |
| 12:41:30 | pattieja | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 13:00:44 | nikos | Morning sjohnson |
| 13:00:55 | sjohnson | hi nikos |
| 13:36:11 | dneuer | is back (gone 19:02:15) |
| 13:36:23 | dneuer | hello all |
| 13:38:07 | mutex | good morning |
| 13:41:42 | edwardam | So does anyone have a problem with irclog coming back? |
| 14:04:06 | edwardam | testing |
| 14:04:08 | edwardam | 123 |
| 14:11:54 | nikos | edwardam: Find with me. |
| 14:12:04 | | hmmm... irclog is http://www.handhelds.org:8081/irclogs (temporary location for testing) |
| 14:12:04 | edwardam | ibot: irclog |
| 14:12:07 | nikos | Morning dneuer, mutex, edwardam, jg |
| 14:12:12 | edwardam | nikos: morning |
| 14:12:20 | nikos | edwardam: 2 different one? |
| 14:12:22 | jg | nikos: morning. |
| 14:12:24 | nikos | err ones. |
| 14:12:31 | edwardam | nikos: one for each # |
| 14:12:32 | mccarthy | nikos: hello |
| 14:12:43 | nikos | edwardam: There are two on this channel though. |
| 14:12:46 | nikos | mccarthy: Hi |
| 14:13:05 | mccarthy | nikos: stupid question (you haven't gotten one from me in a while). Do you know what is the "correct" way to get rid of screen dust problems? |
| 14:13:10 | edwardam | oops |
| 14:13:40 | nikos | mccarthy: I don't know that there is one. Anything other than sending it back to Compaq would be unofficial I would think. |
| 14:13:53 | edwardam | heh |
| 14:14:39 | jg | mccarthy: send it back for repair: they ECO it with a seal so that it won't happen again.... |
| 14:15:03 | mccarthy | jg: they won't fry my linux will they? |
| 14:16:11 | jg | mccarthy: Not unless your unit has other problems that require replacing the base board... |
| 14:16:39 | jg | mccarthy: In general, they do the repair in a straight-forward way, and Linux on the iPAQ is something they are happy with. |
| 14:16:49 | mccarthy | jg: one more. I assume that the address is on the web or in my Ipaq shipping box? |
| 14:17:19 | jg | mccarthy: If they did replace the base board, you'd get Wince back; but this isn't likely to happen when you're returning it for dust. |
| 14:17:37 | jg | mccarthy: I expect the repair information is in the box someplace.... |
| 14:18:24 | mccarthy | jg: thanks. now if I could only bear to part with my toy for a short while... |
| 14:19:06 | jg | mccarthy: About the only other thing you can do, as a temporary repair, is see if you can blow it out with some canned air (they make such stuff for lab bench work). |
| 14:19:34 | jg | mccarthy: But that won't fix the fundamental issue of sealing things up properly, which is what the ECO does. |
| 14:20:11 | mccarthy | jg: yeah. I will have to send it back. there is even dust all the way out to the middle now. |
| 14:20:29 | mccarthy | jg: at least it will be FIXED |
| 14:20:36 | mccarthy | jg: not simply cleaned |
| 14:20:45 | jg | mccarthy: sounds like you have to part with it, and yes, I've not heard of any problems once the ECO has been applied.... |
| 14:21:25 | mccarthy | jg: thanks again (good thing I kept the box, but i THOUGHT it would be to send it to you guys once I "bricked" it :) |
| 14:26:36 | dneuer | morning nikos |
| 14:31:32 | edwardam | is away: Gotta Go, gotta go.... |
| 14:52:46 | mccarthy | jgLUNCH: even easier. just call and then send you a box to mail it in! (It will be gone for up to two wekks! ICK!) I guess v0.5 will be out by then (on the bright side!). |
| 14:59:43 | dneuer_AWAY | is away: bbl |
| 15:03:02 | beeblebrox | is away: Away! |
| 15:05:55 | fad | guys, whats the best kernel at the moment with standbye/resume workign? |
| 15:25:47 | jgLUNCH | mccarthy: that is worse case: they generally turn units much faster than that. |
| 16:16:29 | sjohnson | is away: luncj |
| 16:16:35 | sjohnson | is away: lunch |
| 16:23:21 | sjohnson | is back (gone 00:06:52) |
| 17:21:02 | nikos | Who built the 2.4.9 kernel and modules at ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/2.4.9/ ? |
| 17:23:53 | | scream is an mp3 front end that was formerly known as pypaq.mp3 and pypaq. Available at http://handhelds.org/~gberenfield/ |
| 17:23:53 | sjohnson | ibot: scream? |
| 17:28:34 | fad | can someone send me ipkg.conf? |
| 17:30:12 | fad | woop! ipkg.conf-dist |
| 17:31:09 | | i think nikos feed is http://handhelds.org/~nikos/feed/ |
| 17:31:09 | sjohnson | ibot: nikos feed |
| 19:05:50 | trilluser | i just installed barebones familiar 0.5 onto my ipaq. how do i get a console? |
| 19:07:04 | sjohnson | trilluser: Use a terminal program connect to the serial cradle/cable. 115200 8N1 no flow control |
| 19:07:52 | trilluser | i've connected using a term emulator and i can transfer files to my ipaq |
| 19:08:33 | trilluser | i've been installing ipkgs this way, but is there an easier way to do a full install? |
| 19:08:39 | sjohnson | trilluser: Yes. Use zmodem to update files. |
| 19:08:55 | sjohnson | Get networking working |
| 19:08:58 | | ppp is http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/PPPHowto |
| 19:08:58 | sjohnson | ibot: ppp |
| 19:09:02 | | usbnet is probably at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking |
| 19:09:02 | sjohnson | ibot: usbnet |
| 19:09:10 | sjohnson | Take your choice. |
| 19:09:48 | sjohnson | Or use a PCMCIA network card of some type, if avail. |
| 19:12:12 | trilluser | my problem is that once i get the ppp connection going, i have no console to the ipaq anymore |
| 19:12:28 | trilluser | (can't connect using a terminal emulator because that'll break the ppp connection) |
| 19:12:46 | trilluser | and i have no console on the ipaq itself. |
| 19:13:27 | sjohnson | trilluser: You have to install ssh and related dependent packages. The task-boot script image doesn't have ssh or pppd loaded on it. |
| 19:13:31 | trilluser | is there a crucial package that will allow me to boot to a console (on the ipaq screen itself) accepting input? |
| 19:13:49 | sjohnson | ssh, zlib, libwrap0 and libssl .ipk's are needed for ssh. |
| 19:14:25 | trilluser | sjohnson: ok i'll try installing ssh. thanks |
| 19:52:27 | mpakula | takes a caffee break |
| 20:01:57 | nikos | I do believe I'm being hit much hard by Nimda than I ever was by Code Red. |
| 20:04:58 | DragonEagle | is away: broke smake |
| 20:15:12 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 00:10:14) |
| 20:27:24 | Nexs | Nikos I think everyon is |
| 20:31:11 | nikos | I'm building a LaBrea server now. |
| 20:49:19 | DragonEagle | is away: bbiab |
| 20:59:21 | nicob | I can't get contact with my Ipaq running familiar, do I need to set it up for serial communication? |
| 21:00:00 | mpakula | nicob: what do you mean can't get contact ? |
| 21:01:13 | nicob | mpakula: well, I can't reach it with minicom or hyperterminal (in windows) |
| 21:02:24 | nicob | mpakula: I'm just wondering if there is anything I need to configure on the Ipaq. |
| 21:04:15 | mpakula | nicob: no response from ipaq ? |
| 21:04:43 | nicob | mpakula: nope |
| 21:04:44 | mpakula | nicob: what kernel/root / |
| 21:04:46 | drrakn | is there any particular reason that familiar 0.4 would boot nicely, start X, load xscribe, and then lock solid? |
| 21:05:44 | mpakula | drrakn: never happened to me, although been playing with kernels quite dangerously. |
| 21:05:53 | drrakn | actually - lock solid isn't quite fair. doesn't respond to keypresses or the stylus is more accurate |
| 21:06:08 | drrakn | pressing the "power" button makes the LCD turn off |
| 21:06:24 | drrakn | hmmmm. anyone tried the "Linux without flashing" method? |
| 21:06:26 | mpakula | drrakn that is a sleep mode |
| 21:06:30 | drrakn | it works till you reach that point |
| 21:06:34 | drrakn | mpakula: i figured. |
| 21:06:54 | mpakula | drrakn: and ? |
| 21:07:21 | nicob | kernel v0.4 2.4.3-rmk2-np1 and I installed the task-familiar-complete |
| 21:07:45 | drrakn | i was wondering if i was doing something silly and obviously wrong, unfortunetly i don't have any other way to interacting with the ipaq, as i only have a usb cable, so i can't test the serial console |
| 21:07:46 | drrakn | heh |
| 21:08:16 | nicob | I thought it would only work with the serial |
| 21:08:50 | drrakn | you can boot off a microdrive with redboot, similar to using ldlinux from DOS |
| 21:08:52 | mpakula | drrakn: modify it to serial it is quite easy |
| 21:09:01 | ipaq_lnx | hello everyone. what is the release schedule for .5? |
| 21:09:30 | drrakn | what *should* come up when X starts? (besides xscribe) |
| 21:09:31 | ipaq_lnx | still expecting it next month? |
| 21:10:47 | sjohnson | ipaq_lnx: There is not set date. It will be ready when it's ready. Bit of the release are still being tested. |
| 21:11:24 | ipaq_lnx | just wonderin, not 100% sure I want to try to pre-release, but want to see what linux on the ipaq is like. |
| 21:11:26 | ipaq_lnx | Thanks |
| 21:12:02 | mpakula | drrakn: some wm depends what you did install ( 0.4 comes with blackbox ) |
| 21:12:05 | nicob | Do I need to configure the Ipaq to communicate with my pc? |
| 21:12:09 | sjohnson | ipaq_lnx: Try 0.4. it's stable and usable. |
| 21:12:27 | ipaq_lnx | okay. been trying to find a changelog for what to expect in .5 |
| 21:12:32 | sjohnson | nicob: Communitcate? how? |
| 21:13:24 | drrakn | mpakula: i'm trying to figure out where it is hanging... and hopefully i can just hack up the script that's starting the app that's causing the hang. it's not kernel-level, or sleep wouldn't work |
| 21:13:37 | sjohnson | ipaq_lnx: it's mainy going to be a new bootldr that boot a kernel from the jffs2 parition, new packages and a different default window manager, ION. |
| 21:13:38 | nicob | sjohnson: I installed 0.4 yesterday, now I can't reach the Ipaq when I try to contact it. I'm using the serial cradle |
| 21:14:03 | drrakn | if i can get it interactive, i can install usb-networking, and then i won't need to mod my cradle or waste cash on a serial one :) |
| 21:14:08 | ipaq_lnx | so, basically everything... heheh |
| 21:14:17 | sjohnson | nicob: You can't get a login prompt from the serial console? |
| 21:14:26 | mpakula | nicob: check settings of you terminal/minicom |
| 21:14:43 | nicob | sjohnson: that's right |
| 21:15:13 | nicob | mpakula: They're correct. I've tried other terminals as well, even hyperterminal from which I installed familiar |
| 21:15:29 | sjohnson | nicob: Do what mpakula suggests. recheck serial settings 115200 8N1 and no flow control. |
| 21:15:36 | mpakula | drrakn: It is good to have serial anyhow and that is not that hard to do |
| 21:15:53 | drrakn | gotcha |
| 21:16:03 | nicob | sjohnson: the settings are correct. |
| 21:16:31 | nicob | If this is such an unusual problem, maybe I'll check around some more, and see if I've overlooked something elsewhere |
| 21:16:43 | nicob | Are you sure you don't need to set anything on the Ipaq? |
| 21:16:57 | sjohnson | nicob: If your X is running. Run a terminal and check to see that getty is running for ttySA0. |
| 21:17:51 | nicob | sjohnson: there's a process allright |
| 21:18:30 | sjohnson | nicob: Can you reset and get back to a boot> prompt in the bootldr? |
| 21:19:09 | mpakula | drrakn: how did you load familiar without serial ? |
| 21:20:07 | nicob | sjohson: yes, and the "press Q (or wait) to boot linux" |
| 21:20:15 | drrakn | mpakula: the "linux without flashing howto" redboot'ed off my microdrive |
| 21:20:26 | drrakn | works well except for that little detail :) |
| 21:20:47 | drrakn | http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/BootLinuxWithoutFlashing |
| 21:21:10 | mpakula | drrakn: hmm. that thing cool congratulations |
| 21:21:13 | pattieja | is away: bible study |
| 21:21:26 | drrakn | if i can get it working, i can bootstrap linux onto it from linux, no need for error-prone xmodem transfers |
| 21:21:27 | drrakn | heh |
| 21:21:38 | drrakn | and it's a heck of a lot faster |
| 21:21:57 | drrakn | took maybe 15 minutes to get it to boot |
| 21:22:08 | mpakula | drrakn: true, true but still some terminal would be nice , don't you think ? |
| 21:22:24 | drrakn | once i get usb-networking working, i can SSH into it from my laptop |
| 21:22:57 | drrakn | i don't use it as a terminal enough anyway, although that was fun with my palm III |
| 21:23:20 | drrakn | i'm going wireless with it anyway, when i get the cash for a few 802.11 cards |
| 21:24:05 | mpakula | drrakn: good chice Lucent Sliver 11Mbps works cool for me |
| 21:24:08 | drrakn | serial is too slow for transfering movies / music to it, and i hate swapping out my microdrive |
| 21:24:18 | drrakn | i've heard good things about them |
| 21:26:38 | mpakula | drrakn: usb will boost you to 12mbps right ? |
| 21:27:49 | drrakn | mpakula: i'm really not sure, USB wireless can pull the full 11mbps, so i would assume that's a lower bound |
| 21:27:49 | drrakn | 12mbps sounds reasonable |
| 21:27:49 | mpakula | USB wireless ?? i lost you ;( |
| 21:27:57 | drrakn | you can get USB wireless "cards" |
| 21:28:04 | drrakn | for 802.11B |
| 21:28:23 | drrakn | and those run at the full 11mbps |
| 21:28:42 | mpakula | drrakn: that is something new to me ( got dual slo sleeve ) :))) |
| 21:28:58 | drrakn | ahhh, those don't fit in my pocket very well :) |
| 21:29:22 | drrakn | hehe, i was gonna buy a pcmcia sleeve from my roommate, but it was too bulky |
| 21:29:24 | drrakn | i like it as-is |
| 21:29:28 | sgodsell | is away: Be back later |
| 21:29:55 | drrakn | i can't wait to ditch CE, my battery life totally sucks when pulling music off the microdrive, linux is much easier to hack up :) |
| 21:30:06 | a7r | amen. |
| 21:30:12 | mpakula | drrakn: true, true but still fun for microdrive and wLAN or gps |
| 21:30:19 | drrakn | give it 8-9 meg of buffer, and it'll only spin up every 10 minutes :) |
| 21:30:31 | drrakn | mpakula: that's a good point, i might get one, once i start playing with cool toys |
| 21:30:37 | drrakn | but i figure, i can switch them out -- |
| 21:30:47 | drrakn | i can stream off my server if i'm connected via 802.11 |
| 21:31:04 | mpakula | EGg0: morning |
| 21:31:05 | drrakn | and generally need my microdrive for the plane, or other extended trips |
| 21:31:19 | drrakn | a gps card would rock though, my direction sense is terrible :) |
| 21:31:26 | drrakn | hook it up to festival-lite |
| 21:31:27 | drrakn | :) |
| 21:31:42 | mpakula | drrakn: still waiting for my microdrive and cf camera |
| 21:31:54 | EGg0 | Morning all. |
| 21:31:57 | drrakn | i love my microdrive - 1 gig :) |
| 21:31:59 | drrakn | it rocks |
| 21:32:02 | EGg0 | (evening here) |
| 21:32:33 | mccarthy | later all |
| 21:34:01 | mpakula | drrakn: so you don't want to have terminal just type commands from shell ? |
| 21:34:30 | drrakn | i'll use SSH for that, once i get it to that point - because i can do that over the usb cradle |
| 21:34:36 | drrakn | saves me some trouble |
| 21:36:41 | Paul_3135 | Any word on CF support on 31xx iPAQs? |
| 21:37:01 | mpakula | did you set iptables to have direct connection on usb-eth |
| 21:37:53 | drrakn | mpakula: i haven't even ventured there yet :) i just wanted to see if i could get it to boot at all, which it does. but then it goes un-responsive after X starts... |
| 21:38:17 | drrakn | is there anything wierd that one has to do for the stylus to work? |
| 21:39:38 | mpakula | drrakn: not at all, what's up with it, what wm do you use |
| 21:40:39 | drrakn | i did this (by the book): downloaded familiar 0.4 tarball, and unpacked it into a EXT2 partition on my microdrive (/dev/hda6 on the iPaq) |
| 21:41:20 | drrakn | i'm not sure what kernel version they were using |
| 21:41:47 | mpakula | drrakn; 0.4 runs on 2.4.3 |
| 21:41:51 | drrakn | k |
| 21:41:56 | drrakn | what should come up after xscribe? |
| 21:42:25 | mpakula | drrakn: do you have blackbox wm ? |
| 21:42:28 | drrakn | i see: tiled Xwindows pattern, then blueish background with squares, then xscribe loads, then it just sits there.... |
| 21:42:55 | drrakn | i'm not sure, it supposedly works out of the box ;) I'll take another poke at it, lemme unpack the tarball locally |
| 21:43:13 | mpakula | just a sec |
| 21:44:04 | drrakn | ooooh |
| 21:44:08 | drrakn | i think i see the problem |
| 21:44:21 | drrakn | does mv preserve special devices? |
| 21:44:33 | drrakn | i unpacked it locally, and mv'd it to my microdrive |
| 21:44:49 | nicob | I can reach my Ipaq in windows now with hyperterminal, the powersupply was charging the battery, and when i plugged it out, it got contact with my pc. Weird! |
| 21:45:29 | mpakula | drrakn: what do you see on your ipaq ? |
| 21:46:10 | drrakn | blueish screen (obviously X), and at the top left corner is a window with a few widgets labled "xscribe" |
| 21:46:14 | mpakula | nicob: that is not the cause, your serial might have hanged ( terminal thing) |
| 21:46:14 | drrakn | that's it |
| 21:46:31 | mpakula | drrakn: ok that is blackbox |
| 21:46:35 | drrakn | k |
| 21:46:51 | drrakn | i assume a minimal panel is supposed to open, or an xterm... |
| 21:46:59 | mpakula | now when you tap somewhere else you will see pointer there, right ? |
| 21:47:02 | drrakn | am i just not waiting long enough? :) |
| 21:47:04 | drrakn | nope |
| 21:47:10 | drrakn | the pointer sits in the middle of the screen |
| 21:47:22 | mpakula | drrakn: one step at the time |
| 21:47:22 | drrakn | i wonder if its failing to open the touchscreen /dev |
| 21:47:26 | drrakn | k |
| 21:48:15 | mpakula | ok when you tap on lck is the pointer exactly at that place |
| 21:48:39 | drrakn | let me reboot it actually, i turned it off. |
| 21:48:57 | mpakula | just hit one of the bottom buttons |
| 21:49:05 | drrakn | none of those had any effect |
| 21:49:07 | drrakn | tried that :) |
| 21:49:16 | drrakn | nor did the "record" thumbbutton |
| 21:49:32 | drrakn | sleep button works, but it won't turn back on, but that's a known bug, i believe |
| 21:49:38 | mpakula | hmm. I don't like idea of rebooting if not necessary |
| 21:50:05 | mpakula | drrakn: fixed long time ago in 0.4 I believe |
| 21:50:11 | drrakn | i already did, it was a while ago that i tried it, and i have to reinstall pcmcia.dll every time, because it doesn't recognize my microdrive |
| 21:50:24 | drrakn | the known bug is with the boot method, because i'm not using a normal bootldr |
| 21:50:56 | mpakula | ok just do what familiar user has to do :0 |
| 21:51:05 | drrakn | heh |
| 21:51:30 | mpakula | oh just reboot it |
| 21:51:39 | drrakn | bbias |
| 21:51:43 | drrakn | borrowing a win32 machine |
| 21:51:59 | mpakula | huh why so ? |
| 21:52:24 | drrakn | need activesync, to install the "softpaq" for my microdrive |
| 21:52:25 | drrakn | blah |
| 21:53:40 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 01:04:20) |
| 21:53:52 | mpakula | drrakn: serial is a good thing afterall ( with lan) |
| 21:54:06 | drrakn | it's more convenient |
| 21:54:56 | mpakula | drrakn : and you know that you can power your ipaq from usb too |
| 21:55:48 | drrakn | yeah |
| 22:02:05 | drrakn | ok - ready to boot into linux :) |
| 22:02:26 | drrakn | running cyaCE |
| 22:02:56 | mpakula | mallum: where does pikpak takes descriptions of packages from ? |
| 22:03:07 | mallum | ipkg |
| 22:03:43 | drrakn | ok, i'm booted again |
| 22:03:51 | mallum | theres a switch for ipkg that list alls it package info |
| 22:03:53 | drrakn | sitting at the screen i described - blackbox |
| 22:03:59 | mallum | pikpak just parses that |
| 22:04:24 | mpakula | mallum: I know that, but after ipkg in installed info from controll file goes where ? |
| 22:04:47 | mpakula | drrakn is lcd calibrated ? |
| 22:04:58 | drrakn | nope |
| 22:05:06 | drrakn | and a note in the wiki said: |
| 22:05:17 | drrakn | xcalibrate doesn't work.. is that what is hanging? potentailly? |
| 22:05:43 | mallum | mpakula: hmm not sure I can remeber ... check th ipkg source ? |
| 22:06:21 | mpakula | drrakn: hmm get familiar distro and flash it. That will save you lots of work |
| 22:06:32 | drrakn | it's sounding like it |
| 22:06:34 | drrakn | heh |
| 22:07:33 | drrakn | thanks anyway |
| 22:07:50 | mpakula | mallum: I did few repackaging including yours VIC ( puts it to ramfs ) and forgt to add that to control. just want to save some time and not package it again just because of control file |
| 22:08:12 | mpakula | drrakn: does it have debian or familiar menu ? |
| 22:08:21 | Nexs | grr |
| 22:08:26 | drrakn | no menu is visible |
| 22:08:31 | Nexs | hps internal web access just went down |
| 22:08:34 | Nexs | growls |
| 22:08:39 | drrakn | just the root window (blueish) and the xscribe window |
| 22:08:55 | drrakn | it's supposedly familiar 0.4 based |
| 22:09:31 | mpakula | drrakn: when you type on blueish window there is no menu appearing ? |
| 22:09:48 | drrakn | nope, and the pointer doesn't respond |
| 22:09:53 | drrakn | to stylus taps |
| 22:11:01 | mpakula | drrakn: hmmm... so lcd does not respond : |
| 22:11:19 | drrakn | nope |
| 22:11:48 | terrys | have you tried killing xscribe |
| 22:12:05 | mpakula | hmm.. sorry can't help except REFLASH he he |
| 22:12:25 | drrakn | terrys: i would, but i don't have any other interface, i was hoping i could bootstrap via this method, instead of working with a serial connection |
| 22:13:20 | terrys | I was thinking xscribe could be getting in your way accessing blackbox menus |
| 22:13:44 | mpakula | screams HUH it's 2.15 am and early morning meating can't be missed again |
| 22:13:56 | drrakn | i still don't get any response from the pointer, which is odd, unless xscribe grabs all taps while it's active... |
| 22:14:37 | mpakula | drrakn: might be the reason :-? |
| 22:15:16 | drrakn | possibly, i'll try removing xscribe from the script |
| 22:15:21 | drrakn | see what happens |
| 22:15:49 | mpakula | drrakn: is it in the script or you putit there ? |
| 22:16:56 | drrakn | it's as-is |
| 22:17:01 | drrakn | i didn't modify anything |
| 22:18:06 | drrakn | fscrib is the last thing loaded in /etc/init.d/x |
| 22:18:39 | mpakula | ok so remove it |
| 22:18:39 | drrakn | my guesses are: fscrib is screwing something up, or X can't open the touch-screen dev |
| 22:19:18 | drrakn | doing so... i'll have to go offline for a sec while i copy the new version to my microdrive (only one typeII slot) |
| 22:19:55 | drrakn | bbiab. mpakula: you should get to sleep ;) I can screw with this fine, i think. heh. it's all guesses at this point anyway |
| 22:22:01 | mpakula | hits dreams |
| 22:33:44 | DragonEagle | is away: just away |
| 22:35:08 | drrakn | what daemon handles lcd touches for X? |
| 23:11:06 | | sgodsell: excuse me? |
| 23:11:06 | sgodsell | ibot usb-eth |
| 23:11:12 | | sgodsell: excuse me? |
| 23:11:12 | sgodsell | ibot usb networking |
| 23:11:15 | | sgodsell: excuse me? |
| 23:11:15 | sgodsell | ibot usb network |
| 23:11:22 | sgodsell | I hate ibot |
| 23:11:26 | drrakn | :) |
| 23:11:32 | | usb is at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking |
| 23:11:32 | Nexs | ibot usb |
| 23:11:40 | Nexs | =P |
| 23:11:43 | sgodsell | thanks Nexs |
| 23:11:46 | Nexs | np |
| 23:12:19 | drrakn | grins |
| 23:12:28 | drrakn | that makes life *much* better |
| 23:12:54 | sgodsell | usb networking is so much better than that serial crap |
| 23:13:00 | drrakn | no kidding :) |
| 23:13:16 | drrakn | that's why i waited for a better install method :) |
| 23:13:17 | Nexs | well im off work |
| 23:13:20 | Nexs | catch ya all tomorrow |
| 23:13:27 | sgodsell | Take care Nexs |
| 23:13:30 | Nexs | you to |
| 23:23:49 | drrakn | what version of 2.4.x is recommended? :) |
| 23:24:05 | drrakn | (not for an ipaq - x86, laptop) |
| 23:25:38 | drrakn | bbiab - food :) |
| 23:31:37 | EGg0_in|out | is away: picking up the wife...(uh, I've been working out :) |