| 00:37:48 | | somebody said usbnet was at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking |
| 00:37:48 | EGg0 | ibot usbnet |
| 01:08:20 | | minicom is ok. In fact I did xmodem transfers from minicom. But after reseting, minicom receives dirty echo from serial port |
| 01:08:20 | EGg0 | ibot minicom |
| 01:14:04 | | EGg0: what? |
| 01:14:04 | EGg0 | ibot sound |
| 01:14:11 | | EGg0: i'm not following you... |
| 01:14:12 | EGg0 | ibot sound modules |
| 01:41:18 | sjohnson_zzZz | is away: off to bed |
| 01:45:00 | edwardamRANDR | is away: Gotta Go, gotta go.... |
| 03:16:21 | DragonEagle | is away: just away |
| 05:17:31 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 02:01:10) |
| 05:53:33 | DragonEagle | is away: errand |
| 06:11:12 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 00:17:40) |
| 06:35:29 | AnttiN | humm |
| 06:35:44 | AnttiN | any ideas how to add swap to ipaq? |
| 06:36:03 | AnttiN | swapping over nfs seems to be an bad idea |
| 06:38:46 | volkam | lol!! |
| 06:51:15 | AnttiN | heh, i know, crazy idea :) |
| 06:51:58 | AnttiN | but still, having working swap would be nice :) |
| 07:30:40 | volkam | my ipaq is all decked out |
| 07:30:41 | volkam | bbl |
| 11:34:40 | Jimmn | Hi again all... I think my ipaq is definitely dead. :( |
| 11:34:54 | sgodsell_io | Ew! |
| 11:35:00 | Jimmn | That's what I said. :) |
| 11:35:01 | sgodsell_io | Hello Jimmn |
| 11:35:08 | Jimmn | hi sgod... |
| 11:35:24 | sgodsell_io | What did you do to kill it? |
| 11:35:28 | Jimmn | I can't figure out what happened... anyone know how to get ahold of Compaq? |
| 11:35:37 | Jimmn | Well... |
| 11:35:50 | Jimmn | Not much, I installed familiar on sunday, |
| 11:35:56 | Jimmn | was working with it all week, |
| 11:36:15 | sgodsell_io | Okay, and then what? |
| 11:36:20 | Jimmn | I get it out of the case tonight and it's up at the bootldr splash screen and nothing I did would bring it out of that stat... |
| 11:36:24 | Jimmn | state.... |
| 11:36:49 | Jimmn | I finally took it off of power, turned off the battery switch, the screen faded but never comes backnow... |
| 11:36:50 | sgodsell_io | Okay well you still have the bootldr, so that is okay then |
| 11:36:55 | sgodsell_io | no brick ;) |
| 11:37:09 | Jimmn | I don't get any lights though when I put it on power which leads me to believe the battery failed or something... |
| 11:37:19 | sgodsell_io | Hmmm, did you try to update the bootldr? |
| 11:37:24 | Jimmn | It's on AC direct from the power pack. |
| 11:37:38 | Jimmn | Well, if I put it on a serial terminal, I get no prompt.... |
| 11:38:09 | sgodsell_io | And there is no splash screen at all |
| 11:38:10 | Jimmn | Now, I let it charge all night, no LED came on, nothing, it's dead as a doornail. :((( |
| 11:38:16 | Jimmn | No screen. |
| 11:38:32 | sgodsell_io | I will say it again. Ew! |
| 11:39:22 | sgodsell_io | Which model? |
| 11:39:40 | Jimmn | H3635 |
| 11:39:48 | Jimmn | I think it's a hardware failure... |
| 11:39:55 | Jimmn | :( |
| 11:41:02 | beeblebrox | Jimmn: hey there... do you get a light when you attach the AC cable? |
| 11:41:33 | Jimmn | nope, nuthin. |
| 11:41:34 | beeblebrox | Jimmn: dont rush to conclusions yet... it cant just stop working for no reason |
| 11:41:45 | Jimmn | Hehe, tell that to my ipaq...:)) |
| 11:41:52 | beeblebrox | ah... do you have the battery connected? |
| 11:42:03 | Jimmn | The battery switch? Yes.... |
| 11:42:07 | beeblebrox | i mean, the small switch at the bottom? |
| 11:42:17 | beeblebrox | which side is it? left/right? |
| 11:42:29 | Jimmn | as I look at it from the bottom, the left... |
| 11:42:55 | beeblebrox | try to move it to the other side, and try charging... make sure you move it the full way. |
| 11:43:07 | beeblebrox | also, does the ac adapter get hot when connected? |
| 11:43:09 | Jimmn | did that several times... believe me.. |
| 11:43:23 | Jimmn | just a bit warm, not HOT... |
| 11:43:31 | Jimmn | bbiam |
| 11:44:33 | beeblebrox | so the adapter is working... there is no light glowing for both the positions of the switch? |
| 12:01:48 | Jimmn | beelbrox: yes.. |
| 12:06:37 | Jimmn | Is anyone on this list work at Compaq? |
| 12:06:46 | Jimmn | Does.. |
| 12:06:48 | Jimmn | :) |
| 12:11:48 | beeblebrox | Jimmn: yea. |
| 12:12:41 | Jimmn | I'd like to get a hardware opinion to see if this is the problem? I'm not sure where to take this little thing. I only purchased < 10 days ago... |
| 12:12:52 | Jimmn | But I doubt if BestBuy will like my putting linux on it. :) |
| 12:14:05 | beeblebrox | Jimmn: if it isnt turning on...they would never know you installed linux, |
| 12:14:15 | beeblebrox | are you sure there is no light glowing for both the positions of the switch? |
| 12:14:16 | Jimmn | true, ah well.. |
| 12:14:27 | Jimmn | absotively posolutely. :) |
| 12:14:48 | Jimmn | Hi mandrake.. |
| 12:14:52 | mandrake | morning |
| 12:15:12 | beeblebrox | Jimmn: then the problem is with the switch. did you ever use the switch before? |
| 12:15:24 | Jimmn | Just when I first bought it to turn it on... |
| 12:15:31 | beeblebrox | mandrake: hi.. got your new laptop? |
| 12:15:34 | mandrake | today |
| 12:15:37 | mandrake | it'll be here in a few hours |
| 12:16:10 | Jimmn | anyone know best buy's return/warranty policy? :) |
| 12:16:12 | beeblebrox | Jimmn: i guess you cant do anything more... |
| 12:16:38 | Jimmn | :(( |
| 13:25:40 | pattieja | is away: I'm busy |
| 13:25:58 | pattieja | is away: I'm busy |
| 13:26:16 | pattieja | is away: I'm busy |
| 14:04:21 | nikos | Morning sjohnson |
| 14:04:45 | sjohnson | nikos: It is? |
| 14:11:14 | nikos | sjohnson: Well it is for me. Have you geographically located? ;) |
| 14:11:20 | nikos | err s/located/relocated/ |
| 14:12:04 | sjohnson | nikos: It was a joke. I didn't get any sleep last night. Located in AR |
| 14:19:52 | mccarthy | jamey: do you notice any Input/output errors with the current kernels (2.4.7 hh5 and hh6). |
| 14:20:11 | mccarthy | jamey: It seems to happen to me specifically when some sound-related snafu occurs |
| 14:20:45 | mccarthy | jamey: although why the sound snafu occurs in thefirst place is a mystery |
| 14:21:11 | nikos | sjohnson: No sleep? What's up? |
| 14:22:25 | sjohnson | nikos: Antihistimines. Some of htem affect me like taking a dozen cups of coffee. Very jittery. |
| 14:25:16 | jamey | mccarthy: what kind of input/output errors |
| 14:30:21 | Disconnect | morning all |
| 14:31:27 | Disconnect | AnttiN: re swap on ipaq, swap over NBD mostly works (only issue is swap blocksize and NBD blocksize sometimes argue. and swap over NBD over wireless is, as with most non-standard things - nfsroot, etc - over wireless, odd at best.) |
| 14:31:50 | Disconnect | AnttiN: (mostly as in it should work 99% of the time unless you happen to be me ;) ..) |
| 14:32:20 | Disconnect | ibot: message for AnttiN: re swap on ipaq, swap over NBD mostly works (only issue is swap blocksize and NBD blocksize sometimes argue. and swap over NBD over wireless is, as with most non-standard things - nfsroot, etc - over wireless, odd at best.) |
| 14:32:26 | Disconnect | ibot: message for AnttiN: (mostly as in it should work 99% of the time unless you happen to be me ;) ..) |
| 14:36:17 | terrys | familiar-list mailbox is about to explode... |
| 14:38:29 | nikos | sjohnson: I feel for you, caffeine really tears me up badly. I've been more or less 100% caffeine free for a couple of months now. |
| 14:51:32 | Disconnect | went mostly caffeine-free the other day. That was one of the worst days I've had in a long time (which is why I didn't have time/ability to find coffee ;) ..) |
| 15:37:11 | beeblebrox | is away: Away! |
| 16:00:33 | DragonEagle | is away: just away |
| 16:18:35 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 00:18:02) |
| 16:28:14 | mccarthy | jamey: sorry. I diappeared for a while. |
| 16:28:35 | mccarthy | jamey: Input/output errors that are "misterious" ;) |
| 16:29:00 | mccarthy | jamey: they won't tell me what they are. they simply print Input/output error whenever I try to ls or pwd |
| 16:29:36 | mccarthy | jamey: on the console I get.... |
| 16:29:46 | mccarthy | Node CRC 00ff00ff != calculated CRC 260fa175 for node at 005869c4 |
| 16:29:57 | mccarthy | for lots of different nodes and..... |
| 16:30:04 | mccarthy | INIT: CANNOT EXECUTE "/SBINode CRC 00ff00ff != calculated CRC 260fa175 for node at 005869c4 |
| 16:30:06 | mccarthy | periodically |
| 16:31:08 | mccarthy | duh. misterious=mysterious (is it correct yet?) |
| 16:37:46 | DragonEagle | + |
| 16:58:32 | mccarthy | jamey: It seems to be reproducable when I "madplay" a certain file (that may be a screwed up file, I guess). |
| 16:58:40 | mccarthy | (I cannot spell) |
| 16:58:46 | mccarthy | ispell me |
| 17:34:17 | DragonEagle | is away: appointment |
| 18:08:53 | Ng | I just got an iPAQ, I'm going to install Familiar on it, would I be best going with 0.4 or 0.5? |
| 18:09:39 | nikos | Ng: v0.4, v0.5 is not finished yet. |
| 18:09:50 | Ng | nikos: cheers :) |
| 18:55:56 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 01:21:39) |
| 21:18:06 | gls | is there a trick for sound on the new fam-p5 release ? |
| 21:26:09 | nikos | gls: modprobe bitsy-uda1341 |
| 21:26:26 | nikos | gls: Add it to /etc/modules I think if you want it to always start on system start. |
| 21:26:51 | gls | hmm. here's what i've got |
| 21:26:52 | gls | h3600-uda1341.o sa1100-audio.o uda1341.o |
| 21:27:32 | nikos | gls: cat /dev/audio > /dev/audio doesn't produce some nice noise? |
| 21:27:52 | nikos | gls: Now that you mention it, the name has changed, h3600 is probably it. I haven't tried newest v0.5 myself though. |
| 21:27:59 | nikos | a7r: You around? |
| 21:28:18 | gls | nikos: the odd thing is that /etc/modules.conf mentions sa1100-uda1341 |
| 21:28:37 | gls | nikos: and it is a long friday at the tail of a long week |
| 21:28:40 | a7r | nikos: yup.. |
| 21:28:49 | gls | nikos: but i seem to not have such a beastie |
| 21:29:10 | nikos | gls: I'm referring to /etc/modules, not /etc/modules.conf. |
| 21:29:10 | a7r | gls: did you install the sound modules? |
| 21:29:27 | nikos | a7r: Not in the bootstrap? |
| 21:29:32 | gls | a7r: i have three modules in /lib/modules/.../sound |
| 21:29:49 | a7r | nikos: it's suffering from reorgitis. |
| 21:30:01 | a7r | gls: then you want h3600-uda1341 .. modprobing that should make it ``just worl |
| 21:30:04 | gls | a7r: and ipkg says that i'm OK wrt sound-modules-2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs |
| 21:30:04 | a7r | er ``just work''. |
| 21:30:25 | gls | a7r: is that the same as <null>uda1341 ? |
| 21:30:32 | a7r | <null>? |
| 21:30:34 | gls | a7r: or is that sa1100-audeio ? |
| 21:30:47 | gls | a7r: no prefix |
| 21:30:50 | gls | h3600-uda1341.o sa1100-audio.o uda1341.o |
| 21:31:25 | nikos | a7r: I see. ;) |
| 21:31:52 | a7r | no, it's not the same.. |
| 21:31:59 | gls | a7r: whoo hoo |
| 21:32:07 | gls | a7r: that sounded funnie [very fast] |
| 21:32:07 | nikos | gls: Working? |
| 21:32:18 | a7r | just running ``modprobe h3600-uda1341'' should make everything happy. |
| 21:32:18 | gls | a7r: played back about 4x ? |
| 21:32:22 | gls | yes, that did |
| 21:32:24 | a7r | gls: bizarre. |
| 21:32:33 | gls | even my devfsd is happier now |
| 21:32:45 | gls | [testing devfsd for speech recognition stuff] |
| 21:32:48 | nikos | gls: Excellent. |
| 21:33:02 | nikos | Later everyone |
| 21:33:16 | gls | confession: i am no sound-guru. how do i change the rate of playback ? |
| 21:35:45 | a7r | Of a sample, or in general? |
| 21:35:53 | gls | a7r: in general |
| 21:36:11 | a7r | you don't really.. the driver handles things at the native sample frequencies of the audio chip.. |
| 21:36:16 | gls | a7r: [looking in the wiki now, so if it is there then don't worry] |
| 21:42:38 | Kero | hey, a7r, downloaded all my packages? |
| 21:44:10 | a7r | Kero: not yet.. gonna have a big sync tonight.. |
| 21:45:47 | Kero | ok; it just consumes about several MB of my limited 10 MB site... not a problem right now, may be in a few months |
| 21:45:54 | gls | a7r: thx for help. going to go home and play now |
| 22:34:56 | derrell | are there any kernel hackers online? |
| 22:35:52 | DragonEagle | is away: just away |
| 22:35:59 | Kero | derrell: I'm off to bed right now... |
| 22:36:17 | derrell | quick: generating a cross compiler. what type of ARM processor is the ipaq? |
| 22:36:34 | Kero | Don't see others around, either... perhaps green is awake on #handhelds.org |
| 22:36:40 | Kero | arm4vl |
| 22:36:48 | derrell | great. thanks! g'nite. |
| 22:36:54 | Kero | nite! |
| 22:55:01 | xrt | anybody have familiar v5pre installed? |
| 22:55:36 | derrell | xrt: yes, i do. |
| 22:56:30 | xrt | derrell: I've just installed, but I don't seem to have pppd anywhere. This seems strange. |
| 22:57:23 | derrell | xrt: correct. it's not in the image. you can retrieve the package and send it to the ipaq via zmodem. if you're logged in via serial port, the rz will start automatically when you start the zmodem download. |
| 22:58:32 | xrt | derrell: Cheers. that's great. |
| 22:58:45 | derrell | there was discussion today about adding it to the next prerelease. |
| 23:00:50 | xrt | derrell: Ah, I see. On the mailing list? I really must subscribe. |
| 23:01:07 | derrell | yes, it's pretty useful to see what people are working on. |
| 23:01:14 | a7r | xrt: It's already in the next pre-release.. it should be up sometime this weekend. |
| 23:03:18 | xrt | a7r: Great, just didn't know if I was missing anything. |
| 23:23:58 | xrt | a7r: Will ssh be in the next pre? |
| 23:36:30 | a7r | xrt: yup. |
| 23:46:53 | xrt | Thanks everyone. My 'ipkg update' has worked, despite my awfull typing. |