irclog2html for familiar on 2001.10.17

00:01:04stealphI have a question...how much space does the current familiar build take up on the ipaq?
00:02:50jacques_depends how many packages you install
00:03:20jacques_absolute minimum is just under 6MB I think
00:04:22stealphI see, i've seen some great info about running linux on a handheld..
00:04:43stealphfrom what I see, familiar is the way to go.
00:05:02jacques_I assume you were asking about flash space?
00:05:48stealphyes, I believe so...
00:06:23jacques_stealph: you should also try #handhelds.org - more ppl awake there
00:38:41dneuer_awayis back (gone 01:11:37)
01:41:23sgodsell_nbis away: I have to go
03:30:19beeblebroxis back (gone 14:39:47)
06:41:34pheddersanyone here? can I reflash familiar using a running intimate? (dd if=... of=/dev/mtdblock/1)
06:50:10a7rphedders: you can, but it might be bad.
09:04:03DragonEagleis away: work
10:54:04pheddersok - familiar has a version of ion that had got stuff added from the main ion distribution - where would I find the source for those changes - I've hunted around...
13:24:32sgodsellis away: Got to go!
13:24:41sgodsellis back (gone 00:00:01)
13:46:29nikosMorning sjohnson
13:47:49sjohnsonnikos: Howdy!
13:50:44nikossjohnson: We are going to have to start calling each other by our actual names or I'm going to refer to you as 'Sjohnson' when we meet in Oakland. ;)
13:51:57sjohnsonnikos: I'm already making the mental connection of Ken == nikos.
13:52:22sjohnsonnikos: But don't be surprised is I do call you nikos. ;>
13:52:29sjohnsons/is/if/
13:53:01nikossjohnson: You prefer Stephen?  Steve?
13:53:53sjohnsonnikos: Doesn't matter. Unless there are mulitple Steve's around, then I prefer Stephen.
13:54:05nikossjohnson: K
14:01:35stealphis familiar/intimate compatible with the Ipaq 3765?
14:05:13nikosstealph: Testing has not been thorough yet, but there should be no significant different between the 3700 and 3600 models.
14:05:32mallum: excuse me?
14:05:32mallumibot: gtksquashed
14:05:33nikosstealph: At least one person has installed Familiar v0.4 recently, but I'm not sure how much they have used it yet.
14:05:39mallum: what?
14:05:39mallumibot: squashedgtk
14:06:50mallumDisconnect: did you build gtksquashed ?
14:08:11sjohnsonmallum: The key work you're looking is squished. :)
14:08:24sjohnsoner squish
14:10:01mallum: sorry...
14:10:01mallumibot: gtksquished
14:10:11mallum: sorry...
14:10:11mallumibot: squish
14:11:40nikosibot: search for squish
14:11:45nikosnade
14:11:47nikosnada
14:11:51nikosibot: search for squash
14:11:58nikosalso nada
14:13:34mallumhmmm, appears to be in hh cvs ?
14:13:44sloni'm not ibot but here it goes :-) http://mvista.sourceforge.net/projects/gtksquashed/
14:14:33sjohnsonThere is a squish patched latest GTK 1.2 in the handhelds.org CVS.
14:14:57mallumsjohnson: cool, and thats originally from the tarball at http://mvista.sourceforge.net/projects/gtksquashed/ ?
14:16:26sjohnsonNo. jamey(?) pathced the latest GTK 1.2 and put it into CVS. The original was 1 or 2 releases eariler.
14:17:04slonsjohnson: where in the CVS ? (squashedgtk is empty ...)
14:17:27mallumsjohnson: patched it with the mvista code ?
14:18:29sjohnsonmallum: yes.
14:19:26mallumsjohnson: cool, thx
14:20:42sjohnsonslon: It's in the sqaushed stuff is in /gtk in CVS
14:23:02slonsjohnson: thx
14:29:36Disconnectmallum: its default in familiar
14:31:33mallumDisconnect: what in 0.5 ?
14:33:18nikosmallum: Yes.
14:33:41nikosmallum: http://handhelds.org/~nikos/dilloion-v0.5pre.png
14:35:48mallumnikos: ah skinny scrollbars - aa fonts ?
14:36:36nikosmallum: Well, not in dillo, can't do that with GTK yet.
14:47:00mallumnikos: oh ok. I though gtk squashed had been patched to do AA ?
14:48:25nikosmallum: It's apparently not a simple task.
14:48:57mallumnikos: no I wouldn't have thought so
14:49:57slongtkfb does AA - but it's like QPE: no X ...
14:51:26sjohnsonThe problem with using AA fonts with the XFT AA stuff is that GTK uses the XFDN names and X likes the new render font specs. It's a PITA to force a mapping via XftConfig
14:52:54slonthere's also gdkxft (http://philrsss.anu.edu.au/~josh/gdkxft/) which claims application transparent AA using XFT ...
14:54:24sjohnsonslon: That is what I tried to use. I spent 3 days and only managed to map 1 font.
14:54:37sjohnsonslon: And I meant that mapping TT fonts are a PITA.
14:54:37mallumslon: yeah that seems pretty evil
14:55:07sjohnsongdkxft worked as advertised.
14:58:58mallumsjohnson: do the smaller file select windows and color pickers exist in squashed ?
14:59:45sjohnsonmallum: The file select. yes. I don't know about the color picker. Haven't tried it.
15:02:50mallumcool
15:04:39Mr_Mystichey
15:05:00Mr_Mysticanyone that successfully have gotten the stowaway keyboard to work on 0.5?
15:05:53sjohnsonMr_Mystic: Yes. It works just fine.
15:06:24Mr_Mysticokey.. I am getting a "Device or resource busy" error message
15:06:28Mr_Mysticis that a known problem?
15:06:56sjohnsonYou have to remove the console= from linuxargs in bootldr.
15:08:30Mr_Mysticyes.. do I haveto do a params reset  / params save thing, or can I just spesify the command "set linuxargs "noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock/2 init=/linuxrc" line
15:09:12Mr_Mysticit wont stop me from useing seriel interface does it?
15:10:16sjohnsonMr_Mystic: No just to set linuxargs "noinitrd...." params save. The console= is for kernel messages.
15:10:22nikosMr_Mystic: That tells linux where to output console messages, that's all.
15:10:22Mr_Mysticokey
15:11:05sgodsellis away: Got to go!
15:11:06Mr_Mysticokey .. its set now.. booting
15:11:39Mr_Mysticokey the bootup messages commes on my ipaq now..
15:11:44Mr_Mysticwhat now.
15:11:49Mr_Mysticjust start stowd?
15:12:10Mr_MysticI have installed the modules and utils useing ipkg
15:13:37Mr_Mysticshould I plug in the keyboard first?
15:13:49sjohnsonMr_Mystic: You have to diable the getty by doing 'init 4' and then do a ' cat </dev/stowaway' to activate the keyboard.
15:16:07Mr_Mysticeeh
15:16:41Mr_Mysticthe viritual keyboar types a > even if I click on the <
15:18:46nikosMr_Mystic: Hmm, same here.
15:18:47nikosmallum!!!!
15:18:47sjohnsonMr_Mystic:  cat /dev/stowaway  will work just as well.
15:51:25Mr_Mysticokey the modprobe h3600_stowaway didnt give any errors
15:52:24Mr_Mysticbut no /dev/stowaway or /dev/misc/stowaway
15:53:06nikospattieja: Are you around?
15:54:14Mr_Mysticlet me just do a quick update, upgrade thingy
15:54:31pattiejanikos: yep
15:55:09nikospattieja: Did you finally get the stowaway working?
15:55:25pattiejayes
15:55:34nikospattieja: Can you help Mr_Mystic please?
15:55:38pattiejahad to upgrade to using kernel 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs_hh10
15:55:59nikosah yes.
15:56:30pattiejagot that off lorien feed
15:56:36it has been said that 2.4.7 is 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs in ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/2.4.7; ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/outgoing also useful.  demo feed old now
15:56:36nikosibot: 2.4.7
15:56:40Mr_Mysticanother issue on the side, while I upgrade.. my cisco airo card, in my dual pcmcia sleeve, gets errors when I insert i atleast like 8 times before it works..
15:56:41Mr_Mystichehe
15:57:29Mr_Mysticlike
15:57:46Mr_Mysticairo: Max tries exceeded when issueing command
15:57:53Mr_Mysticairo: MAC could not be enabled
15:58:14Mr_Mysticairo_cs: RequestConfiguration: Operation succeeded
15:58:17Mr_Mysticand then alot of the
15:58:52Mr_Mystich3600_dual_sleeve_pcmcia_configure_socket: socket=0 vcc=50 vpp=0 reset=0
15:58:56Mr_Mysticand then alot of
15:59:05Mr_Mystich3600_dual_sleeve_pcmcia_configure_socket: socket=0 vcc=50 vpp=50 reset=0
15:59:06Mr_Mysticor
15:59:08Mr_Mystich3600_dual_sleeve_pcmcia_configure_socket: socket=0 vcc=50 vpp=50 reset=1
16:00:13Mr_Mysticand like now.. after aprox 8 or 9 insertion atempts I get a
16:00:34Mr_Mysticairo: MAC enabled eth0 0:40:96:48:97:dc
16:01:11Mr_Mysticeth0: index 0c05:vcc 5.0, Vpp 5.0, irq 32, io 0xf7000000-0xf7000003f
16:01:17Mr_Mysticand everything is dandy
16:01:19Mr_Mysticoh well
16:40:17Disconnectsjohnson: does it run linux? ;)
16:41:22sjohnsonDisconnect: I don't now. The web site is in Japanese(?). I looked at the Photo Gallery. It looks too d*mn real.
16:42:03Disconnectheh
16:57:37Mr_Mystichmm
16:57:54Mr_Mysticcan I make the /dev/stowaway device manualy?
16:58:09Mr_Mysticit doesnt seem to come when I load the modules or anything..
16:58:16Mr_Mysticwhats the major / minor number on it
17:00:41Neo-IntrusWould anyone be able to render me assistance with getting Familiar to work on an ipaq?
17:01:40nikosNeo-Intrus: Please be more specific.
17:01:58nikosMr_Mystic: Did you upgrade your kernel like pattieja said?
17:02:09Neo-IntrusOK,,,  I installed Familiar 9or at least i thought i did, just as specified...
17:02:11Mr_MysticI did a ipkg upgrade
17:02:24nikosMr_Mystic: It's not in the unstable feed, just like pattieja said.
17:02:33nikosNeo-Intrus: 9?
17:02:41Neo-IntrusWhen i boot the ipaq, it says OK, Booting the Kernel now, and stops
17:02:44Neo-Intrus*(
17:02:47Mr_Mysticoh sorry. how do I change feed?
17:02:57nikosMr_Mystic: edit /etc/ipkg.conf
17:03:21Neo-Intrusor sorry, 'done, booting the kernel."  and that's it
17:03:42nikosNeo-Intrus: You're still going to have to be more specific. :)  What URL did you download files from and what is the URL for the instructions you used?
17:03:54Neo-IntrusBRB
17:04:32Neo-Intrusi used the How-Tos on Handheld.org
17:04:46nikosNeo-Intrus: There's nothing about familiar in the howtos.
17:04:58Neo-Intrusand I d/led from familiar.handheld.org/familiar/releases/v0.4
17:05:10nikosNeo-Intrus: OK, did you also use the instructions there?
17:05:15nikosNeo-Intrus: the install.html file?
17:05:16Neo-Intrusyes...
17:05:29Neo-Intrusyes, handhelds did link to that i guess, I'm sorry
17:05:33nikosNeo-Intrus: Did you follow every step of the instructions?
17:05:33Mr_Mysticwhere do I find the lorien feed
17:05:43nikosNeo-Intrus: Including md5sum checking each downloaded file?
17:05:462.4.7 is 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs in ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/2.4.7; ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/outgoing also useful.  demo feed old now
17:05:46nikosibot: 2.4.7
17:06:07Neo-Intrusyes
17:06:09Neo-Intrusi did...
17:07:15nikosNeo-Intrus: Get back into the bootloader.
17:07:19Neo-IntrusOK
17:09:50Ng_does anyone know how charging works with the dual pcmcia sleeve? if I hook up the power supply to the ipaq or put the ipaq in the cradle will it charge the extra batteries? similarly if I plug the power supply into the sleeve will it charge the ipaq's internal battery?
17:10:17nikosNg_: They are both electrically connected.  Yes and Yes.
17:10:20nikosNeo-Intrus: You in?
17:10:24Disconnectplug the ipaq in, it'll charge the sleeve. plug the sleeve in, it'll charge the ipaq. not sure if there is any downside to that one.
17:10:27Neo-Intrusyep
17:10:35Ng_woo!
17:10:51Ng_now I just gotta hope the cradle is strong enough to support the extra weight ;)
17:12:31Neo-IntrusNikos: I'm in the bootloader
17:12:51nikosNeo-Intrus: What does 'ver' show?
17:13:06Neo-IntrusCompaq OHH BootLoader, Rev 2-14-5 [BIG_KERNEL] [MONO]
17:13:06Neo-IntrusLast link date: Fri May 11 11:16:53 PDT 2001
17:13:06Neo-IntrusContact: bootldr@handhelds.org
17:13:38nikosNeo-Intrus: do the 'show' command and paste in ONLY the line named 'linuxargs'.
17:14:52Neo-IntrusIts not showing anything
17:15:02nikosNeo-Intrus: sorry 'params show'
17:15:02Neo-Intrusbut the kernel listed "
17:15:06Neo-IntrusOK
17:16:21nikosNeo-Intrus: What model ipaq is this?
17:16:30Neo-Intrus3635
17:16:36Neo-Intrus(16MB ROM)
17:16:48Neo-Intrusit isn't showing the linunxargs
17:17:01Neo-Intrusbut the kernel is showing some 'args'
17:17:30Neo-Intrusno wait it is
17:17:34nikosNeo-Intrus: 'params show' doesn't do anything?
17:17:46Neo-Intrus'linuxargs=noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock/3 init=linuxrc console=ttySAOdata:'
17:17:51Neo-Intrusdidn't look far enough
17:18:01nikosNeo-Intrus: It says data on the end?
17:18:24nikosNeo-Intrus: And that should be ttySA0 (zero) not ttySAO
17:18:24Neo-Intrusno, the line above ends with data
17:18:35Neo-Intrusthat might do it, huh?
17:18:38nikosYep
17:18:47nikosBe sure to reenter it carefully and do 'params save'
17:18:55Neo-IntrusOK...
17:19:10Neo-Intrusthat makes sense...
17:21:08Neo-IntrusDo you need to reset the bootloader?
17:21:50Neo-IntrusNikos:  Same thing
17:21:59nikosNeo-Intrus: Just enter 'boot'.
17:22:24Neo-IntrusNikos:  Same thing again...
17:22:29nikosNeo-Intrus: Check it again.
17:22:33Neo-IntrusOK
17:27:47Neo-IntrusNikos: For some reason it didn't save the params I entered...  I'm going to try it again
17:30:27Neo-Intrus"linuxargs=noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock/3 init=linuxrc console=ttySAOdata:"
17:30:43pattiejaNeo-Intrus: did you type 'params save' at the bootloader prompt?
17:31:25Neo-Intrusyes, and it verified and everything
17:31:30nikosNeo-Intrus: That's still an O and not a zero 0
17:31:39Neo-Intrusthat's a zero for sure
17:31:40pattiejawhat is ttySA0data: anyway?
17:31:58Neo-Intrus?
17:31:58nikosOOOOOO 00000
17:32:01nikoscompare the fonts.
17:32:52nikosNeo-Intrus: It might help if you just cut and paste from the instructions rather than typing it manually.
17:33:04Neo-IntrusI have been
17:33:07Neo-Intruslinuxargs=noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock/3 init=linuxrc console=ttySA0
17:33:13nikosNow that looks good. ;)
17:33:18Neo-IntrusOK, that is definetially a zero!
17:33:23nikosI agree.
17:33:48Neo-Intrussame thing when i type boot
17:34:17nikosNeo-Intrus: Get back into the bootloader, check it again, and give us the output of 'partitions show'
17:34:31nikosNeo-Intrus: You are absolutely sure you typed 'params save' before you typed 'boot'?
17:34:40Neo-Intrus100%
17:34:52nikosNeo-Intrus: And it talked about writing to flash?
17:35:24Neo-Intrusyep
17:35:31Neo-Intruswriting, verifying, etc
17:36:17nikosNeo-Intrus: 'partition show' no 's', sorry.
17:36:24Neo-Intrusget_param: could not find parameter system_rev
17:36:29Neo-Intruswait...
17:36:32Neo-Intrussorry
17:36:44Neo-Intruswell, maybe that will help, that was kernel output
17:36:49Neo-Intrushere you go:
17:36:51Neo-Intrusargv[1]=partition
17:36:51Neo-Intrusnpartitions=00000004
17:36:51Neo-Intrusbootldr
17:36:51Neo-Intrus  base: 00000000
17:36:51Neo-Intrus  size: 00040000
17:36:52Neo-Intrus flags: 00000002
17:36:54Neo-Intrusparams
17:36:56Neo-Intrus  base: 00040000
17:36:57Neo-Intrus  size: 00040000
17:37:00Neo-Intrus flags: 00000000
17:37:02Neo-Intruskernel
17:37:04Neo-Intrus  base: 00800000
17:37:05Neo-Intrus  size: 00800000
17:37:08Neo-Intrus flags: 00000000
17:37:09Neo-Intrusroot
17:37:12Neo-Intrus  base: 00100000
17:37:14Neo-Intrus  size: 00F00000
17:37:16Neo-Intrus flags: 00000010
17:37:30nikosNeo-Intrus: That seems OK, does how does linuxargs look now?
17:38:49nikosNeo-Intrus: You are still missing something....
17:38:58nikosset linuxargs "noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock/3 init=/linuxrc console=ttySA0"
17:39:11nikosNeo-Intrus: You are missing the / in front of linuxrc
17:39:13Neo-Intrusa sforward slash?
17:39:18nikosyes
17:39:20Neo-Intrus*forward
17:39:32Neo-Intrusshit
17:39:35Neo-Intrusi can't read
17:39:46nikosI thought you said you were cutting and pasting...
17:40:18Neo-Intrusfor the commands itself no, because I'm doing this from a windwos box, and its being a bitch about opening the page
17:40:50Neo-Intrusand hyperterm isn;t accepting the pastes
17:43:28Mr_MysticNeo-Intrus: you haveto use the menu bar click on paste..
17:43:36Neo-Intrusdidn't work, so I reset:  here is the params show output:
17:43:40Mr_Mysticthe ctrl+v doesnt work
17:43:43Neo-Intruslinuxargs=noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock/3 init=/linuxrc console=ttySA0
17:43:48Neo-IntrusI HATE WINDOZE!
17:44:51nikosSo that's the output after you reset?
17:44:55Neo-Intrusyes
17:45:00nikosThat looks OK, and if you reset it must have saved.
17:45:05nikosWhat happens on boot?
17:45:33Neo-Intrussame thing
17:45:50Mr_Mysticnikos: I upgraded, and have /dev/stowaway now, stowd still says "Cant set line discipline: Invalid arguement"
17:46:13Neo-IntrusShit...  I have GTG, I'm goign to be late for work....
17:46:30Neo-IntrusThank you for your help, I will be sure to continue this one latter this evening
17:46:51Neo-IntrusIf you think of anything, if you wish, email me at: intrus@mail.rit.edu
17:46:58Neo-Intrusthank you again...
17:47:02nikosMr_Mystic: Don't use stowd, it has to be updated.
17:47:09nikosMr_Mystic: Use the cat method.
17:47:13nikosNeo-Intrus: Sure.
17:47:27nikosNeo-Intrus: I would recommend doing everything over again.
17:47:52Mr_Mysticcat /dev/stowaway ?
17:48:29Neo-Intrusyeah
17:48:44Neo-IntrusI'm going to attempt that when i get back home..  and if that does not work, I will be back...
17:48:50Neo-Intrusbye
17:49:21Mr_Mystichmm ..
17:51:10Mr_Mysticcat </dev/stowaway have the problem that I still dont have "<" I get ">" when I type "<" on the viritual keyboard. And jugdeing by /etc/xkbd it looks okey
17:51:41pattiejaMr_Mystic: you want cat > /dev/stowaway anyway
17:53:41Mr_Mysticoh
17:53:42Mr_Mysticokey
17:59:17Mr_Mysticwerd
17:59:21Mr_Mysticits working
17:59:24Mr_Mysticthanks alot
17:59:49Mr_Mysticjust gonna put that into my startup scripts
18:03:08stealphDo stores carry a ipaq to serial cable? where would I find one of these?
18:03:53Mr_Mystichave anyone made a irc package to familiar?
18:03:59HMSGreetings!
18:04:47HMSI have a MobilePro 780 HPC, NEC vr4121 processor, Mips based... none of the linux-vr kernels work... netbsd does... but, I like linux.
18:04:54HMSwill familiar run on my system?
18:05:37drraknstealph: i got a serial cable at best buy for 20 USD
18:05:45drraknit's an off brand
18:05:53drraknand they keep it near the PDA stuff (obviously)
18:05:56drrakntry their site as well
18:06:28stealphthanks!
18:06:43drraknnp
18:07:18stealphhas anyone tried familiar/intimate on the 3765?
18:08:11Mr_Mysticis there kernel modules for iso9660 around?
18:08:17Mr_Mysticpcmcia cdrom..
18:09:44KeroHMS: nec is not arm-compatible, is it?
18:10:30HMSKero: Nope.  Just wondering if there were a port to familiar or intimate
18:10:33sjohnsonstealph: I think somebody posted a sucessfully familiar install on a 3765 in the familiar or handhelds mailing list within the past few days
18:11:03DisconnectHMS: intimate is just a way of booting debian-arm on the ipaq.
18:11:03Keroas far as I know, familiar is arm-only.
18:11:17DisconnectHMS: (and some ipaq-specific stuff stolen from familiar)
18:11:51HMSshoot shoot shoot.  I knew I shouldn't have bought a new hpc.
18:11:53HMShaha
18:12:01HMSshould have stuck with my ipaq
18:12:04nikossjohnson: That's true, but I just got an email from him this morning that indicated hysteria, I told him to come by again.  Nick == 'On3'
18:12:45nikosHMS: You traded in an ipaq for the HPC?
18:13:49HMSno... sold the ipaq after a friend dropped it, and went for an hpc cuz the wife thinks it's eaiser to work with.
18:14:04HMS*shrugg*
20:15:20pattiejahow goes the ability to change the root password?
20:17:33sjohnsonpattieja:  perl -e 'print crypt("password","xz"),"\n";'
20:17:42pattiejahmm
20:17:45pattiejano passwd?
20:17:47pattiejacommand?
20:17:51sjohnsonno.
20:18:04pattiejaand then manually insert the result into the file?
20:18:13pattiejahmm
20:18:30pattiejawhat's the xz?  should that be random (I know it's the "salt")
20:18:32pattieja?
20:19:54sjohnson"xz" can be anything. It' just randomness that that two user's with identitca passwords don't have same hashssh
20:20:07pattiejaok
21:05:15bowbdoes anyone know if the 3com 574BT pcmcia card works?
21:05:52bowbI serached the mail archives and it seems that I have the 0x5800 problem
21:07:39pattiejais away: bible study + dinner (mmmm :)
21:16:29nikossjohnson: python -c "import crypt; print crypt.crypt(password,seed);"
21:17:22nikosexcept that the crypt module seems to be missing from v0.5....
21:18:30nikosa7r: Is /usr/lib/python2.0/lib-dynload/cryptmodule.so missing intentionally?
21:19:08sgodsellis away: Got to go!
21:20:01nikosbowb: http://www.handhelds.org/pipermail/ipaq/2001-October/009903.html
21:20:15nikosbowb: This applies to ALL 3com network cards and Linux on the ipaq.
21:29:26it has been said that prism2 is at http://handhelds.org/~sjohnson/feed/wlan-ng-2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs_0.1.9-hh0_arm.ipk
21:29:26[DoG]ibot: prism2
21:34:44stealphis it safe to backup /restore Wince on a ipaq 3765 using the 3600 series Familiar instructions...i know it says 3800 is not supported at this time...
21:44:00[DoG]i got the wlan-ng-2.4.6 ipkg installed as in my first iPAQ.. now on this second iPAQ when i insert my prism2 card it detects a WaveLAN/IEEE card.. where do i go to fix this ?
21:45:05[DoG]sorry thats wlan-ng-2.4.7-rmk3-p1-devfs_0.1.9-hh0_arm
21:50:21DragonEagleis away: bbiaf
22:12:34DragonEagleis back (gone 13:08:30)
22:44:03DragonEagleis away: damn cat

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