| 01:06:08 | Neo-Intrus | I am having problems getting familiar to install (or boot I shoudl say) on a Compaq iPaq 3635 |
| 01:06:20 | Neo-Intrus | the kernel boots ok, and then it does nothing more |
| 01:06:26 | Neo-Intrus | Could anyone assist me please? |
| 01:10:21 | Neo-Intrus | ? |
| 01:12:10 | Neo-Intrus | I guess I'll try back latter |
| 01:12:35 | Neo-Intrus | thanx anyways... |
| 02:13:01 | sgodsell | is away: Got to go |
| 02:32:57 | Kuroihasu | Does familiar include an xServer? |
| 02:59:54 | SleepingDragon | is away: night all |
| 03:04:09 | beeblebrox | is away: Away! |
| 03:04:13 | beeblebrox | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 05:21:52 | Ankush | Hi |
| 05:23:26 | Ankush | anyone awake? |
| 05:23:53 | Ankush | must be early early morning in the states ..... |
| 05:27:04 | stealph | 2am here |
| 05:27:17 | stealph | just got back from work... |
| 05:36:24 | Ankush | are you a guru? =) |
| 05:38:22 | Ankush | i'm stumped on the kernel configuration options for an arm system. |
| 05:38:45 | Ankush | wondering if i can track down a pre-made config options file that used for a standard familiar distribution |
| 05:40:04 | Ankush | i won't pretend i know what i'm doing btw. =) |
| 05:41:25 | stealph | nope im new to the strongarm arch. myself...im just here to learn :) |
| 05:41:54 | stealph | what model ipaq are you using? btw |
| 05:42:50 | Ankush | 3630 |
| 05:43:40 | Ankush | video4linux is diabled in the familiar kernel |
| 05:43:47 | Ankush | want to recompile with it enabled |
| 05:43:55 | stealph | nod |
| 05:44:04 | Ankush | but the rest of the options, are, for me anyway. very confusing. |
| 05:44:31 | Ankush | give me x86 options anyday, i'm fine, but these arm's are crezzy. |
| 05:45:00 | Ankush | i was thinking if i can pick up a options file already complete, i can skip in, change the one i want, and run from there. |
| 05:47:11 | stealph | good luck....time for bed |
| 05:47:26 | beeblebrox | hey Ankush, you from india? |
| 05:47:44 | Ankush | originally ... |
| 05:47:48 | Ankush | in australia atm |
| 05:48:14 | beeblebrox | cool... i am from india :) |
| 05:50:39 | Ankush | do u have a kernel config file for the ipaq???? I am using a h3630. |
| 05:52:34 | beeblebrox | well, it should be in the cvs |
| 05:53:08 | Ankush | nope. |
| 05:54:25 | beeblebrox | Ankush: btw, dont login as root ;) |
| 05:54:46 | Ankush | ok |
| 05:54:48 | Ankush | ;-) |
| 05:55:07 | Ankush | have u comipled a kernel for the ipaq????? |
| 05:55:34 | Ankush | I mean compiled. |
| 05:55:39 | beeblebrox | Ankush: well, i have a mono ipaq (3135). the kernel config is different |
| 05:56:15 | beeblebrox | have you looked in linux/kernel/arch/arm/def-configs ? |
| 05:57:47 | Ankush | which site? |
| 05:58:17 | beeblebrox | in the cvs tree at handhelds. |
| 05:58:25 | Ankush | ok let me check |
| 06:01:58 | Ankush | yep got it..... was at kernel/arch/arm |
| 06:02:16 | beeblebrox | cool. |
| 12:23:25 | phedders | anyone know anything about the rumoured ability of newer bootloader to use usb transfer for flash programming? |
| 12:28:28 | mallum | a7r: you awake ? |
| 12:30:32 | Mr_Mystic | whats the ipkg.conf line for the most bleeding edge familiar install |
| 12:33:19 | error | ciao nikos :) |
| 12:37:11 | nikos | Hi error! How are you? |
| 12:37:31 | error | nikos: fine... a new dillo is out , btw :) |
| 12:37:36 | error | ipk soon ;) |
| 12:37:47 | nikos | error: Cool, I'll be waiting to test. ;) |
| 12:43:45 | Mr_Mystic | dillo 0.6.0 ? |
| 12:45:40 | | a7r was last seen on #handhelds.org 19 hours, 13 minutes and 16 seconds ago, saying: BBroX: Oh, I was just saying in general.. not specific to a WinCE emulator. [Wed Oct 17 18:32:24 2001] |
| 12:45:40 | mallum | ibot: seen a7r |
| 12:53:18 | nikos | Hi sgodsell |
| 12:55:32 | Mr_Mystic | what package is tcpdump in? |
| 13:04:52 | phedders | tcpdump_...deb or do you need an ipk? |
| 13:06:51 | nikos | Great, pcmcia-cs upgrade trashed my wlan-ng install... |
| 13:08:17 | Mr_Mystic | ipk |
| 13:09:22 | sgodsell | http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-arm/net/tcpdump_3.4a6-6.deb |
| 13:27:16 | pattieja | is back (gone 16:19:32) |
| 13:35:36 | sgodsell | is away: bbi 30 minutes |
| 13:35:52 | nikos | Morning sjohnson |
| 13:36:09 | sjohnson | Dang your quick this morning. |
| 13:36:10 | nikos | sjohnson: Newest pcmcia-cs screws up wlan-ng, your fault or a7r's? ;) |
| 13:36:19 | nikos | sjohnson: Talking to someone on #ipaq. |
| 13:38:11 | sjohnson | Try switching to the orinoco drivers. They are working for me just fine with an AP and in Ad-Hoc mode. |
| 13:38:30 | phedders | what kernel you using? |
| 13:38:52 | nikos | sjohnson: I haven't upgraded to jamey's latest yet, maybe this weekend. |
| 13:39:04 | nikos | sjohnson: Reintalling you ipkg fixed it fine, just a config file conflict. |
| 13:39:40 | sjohnson | And I've found a newer version of the wlan-ng drivers. I'm jsut about to update Packaged in my feed. |
| 13:42:17 | nikos | sjohnson: Cool. |
| 13:42:40 | nikos | sjohnson: Have you used another card in addition to the SMC card in the dual sleeve recently? |
| 13:42:53 | sjohnson | phedders: I'm using the --h10 kernel |
| 13:42:57 | nikos | sjohnson: I tried to do so earlier (CF card in adapter) and it locked me. |
| 13:43:31 | sjohnson | nikos: I've used SMC and U.R Robotics. But I think they are the exactly same card with different labels. |
| 13:44:33 | phedders | sj: where are you getting kernels from? (or are you rolling your own?) |
| 13:45:44 | sjohnson | ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/2.4.7/ |
| 14:13:22 | sgodsell | is back (gone 00:37:45) |
| 14:15:48 | pattieja | is away: bank |
| 14:21:10 | nikos | sjohnson: I broke down and ordered a 128MB CF and Stowaway, I figure I've got to have some sort of usable system at ALS. |
| 14:22:26 | sjohnson | The ipaq won't fit into the keyboard with the dual or single PCMCIA sleeves. though I haven't tried my CF sleeve yet. |
| 14:23:15 | nikos | sjohnson: ARGH :( |
| 14:23:48 | sjohnson | That is why people have been asking about connectors and cables on the mailing lists. |
| 14:23:50 | phedders | ipaq does fit with the dual sleeve - just the support has to be pushed down... so it doesn't stay for long ;O) |
| 14:24:07 | nikos | sjohnson: Yep, anyone come to any conlusions yet? |
| 14:24:09 | phedders | wants a kernel that will work with the stowawy |
| 14:24:19 | nikos | phedders: Little duct tape? ;) |
| 14:24:27 | phedders | nikos: thought about it :)O |
| 14:24:27 | nikos | phedders: -hh10 |
| 14:24:35 | phedders | where do I get binaries from? |
| 14:24:38 | | well, 2.4.7 is 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs in ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/2.4.7; ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/outgoing also useful. demo feed old now |
| 14:24:38 | nikos | ibot: 2.4.7 |
| 14:24:51 | nikos | phedders: Just where sjohnson told you earlier. |
| 14:24:58 | phedders | 2.4.7 is 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs doesn't do stow |
| 14:25:05 | phedders | nikos: oops missed that :O) |
| 14:25:05 | pattieja | is back (gone 00:09:17) |
| 14:25:05 | sjohnson | nikos: No commectial cable available. And people don't want to have to buy a minimum of 100 connections just to built one cable. |
| 14:25:07 | nikos | phedders: Please look at the URL. |
| 14:25:29 | nikos | sjohnson: Yeah, but surely someone has custom made a cable by now? |
| 14:25:47 | nikos | sjohnson: foxconn won't seel less than 100 connectors? |
| 14:25:55 | sjohnson | phedders: 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs does support the stowwaway just fine. I've tested it myself. |
| 14:25:57 | nikos | sjohnson: Any idea how much they are? |
| 14:26:16 | sjohnson | IIRC $8 / 100. |
| 14:26:31 | nikos | sjohnson: :p |
| 14:26:44 | phedders | sj: erk! I couldn't get a /dev/stowaway to appear |
| 14:26:50 | nikos | sjohnson: With my skills, I might burn 50 or so before I get a working cable. ;) |
| 14:27:03 | nikos | phedders: You aren't paying attention. |
| 14:27:13 | nikos | phedders: There are multiple 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs version. |
| 14:27:24 | nikos | phedders: They have a trailing hh* on the end to designate them. |
| 14:27:34 | nikos | phedders: You will see what I mean if you look at that URL. |
| 14:27:50 | sjohnson | phedders: The version in the lorien 2.4.7 feed directory is -hh10. |
| 14:27:57 | phedders | ahh - sorry :O) |
| 15:01:18 | SleepingDragon | is back (gone 16:17:12) |
| 15:19:30 | sjohnson_away | is away: lunch |
| 16:01:31 | nikos | is away: Errands |
| 16:11:34 | DragonEagle | is away: bbiaw |
| 16:32:29 | nikos | is back |
| 16:33:30 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 00:21:54) |
| 16:43:32 | sjohnson_away | is back (gone 01:24:02) |
| 17:14:10 | DragonEagle | is away: bbiab |
| 17:45:15 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 00:31:05) |
| 18:04:37 | | a7r was last seen on #handhelds.org 1 days, 32 minutes and 13 seconds ago, saying: BBroX: Oh, I was just saying in general.. not specific to a WinCE emulator. [Wed Oct 17 18:32:24 2001] |
| 18:04:37 | mallum | ibot: seen a7r |
| 18:29:00 | sgodsell | is away: bbl |
| 18:37:47 | Ng_ | ugh, just had a nightmare trying to buy a RhinoSkin case |
| 18:38:05 | Ng_ | does anyone happen to know how well the stowable keyboards work with iPAQs that have the dual PCMCIA sleeve on? |
| 18:38:34 | nikos | Ng_: Not well I'm told. I'm getting a stowaway next week probably and will try it. |
| 18:39:11 | Ng_ | from what I could gather from some forums the support means that the keyboard gets lifted slightly in the middle |
| 18:39:28 | Ng_ | there was some guy who drilled holes in his (single cf) sleeve and made his own extra support ;) |
| 18:40:27 | Ng_ | my dual pcmcia sleeve turns up tomorrow, now I just got to order a disk from cdw.com and I'm set :) |
| 18:42:34 | Ng_ | what would be nice would be to have the iPAQ seperate from the keyboard and have a stand that holds it in landscape orientation |
| 18:43:57 | Ng_ | oh, and I think I found a bug in 0.5, where should I report it? |
| 19:05:05 | nikos | Ng: What sort of bug? |
| 19:05:28 | Ng | nikos: I was just talkint to sgodsell about it, notabug and it was brought on by me doing really stupid things ;) |
| 19:05:38 | nikos | Ng: K. ;) |
| 19:05:53 | sgodsell | nikos it was a symbolic link |
| 20:16:59 | pattieja | is away: I'm busy |
| 20:54:37 | | grab it here ftp://ftp.daa.com.au/pub/james/python/ |
| 20:54:37 | nikos | ibot: pygtk |
| 20:55:24 | a7r | nikos: I'm going to have new Python packages available tonight, if you're interested. |
| 20:56:12 | nikos | a7r: That's cool, I probably won't be around for more than about an hour or so, but I will definitely want to take a look. |
| 20:56:24 | nikos | a7r: Did you see by question about python crypt earlier? |
| 20:58:42 | a7r | nikos: I saw that you wondered why it wasn't installed.. |
| 20:59:04 | nikos | a7r: Yeah, intentional? |
| 20:59:22 | nikos | a7r: It was handy when people asked about changing passwords. :) |
| 20:59:53 | a7r | nikos: I'll make it available when the new Python packages go in. |
| 21:00:29 | nikos | a7r: No biggy, I guess you plan to split a lot of that up into seperate ipkgs? |
| 21:01:30 | a7r | yup. |
| 21:01:59 | a7r | the base is going to use about 250k of flash. |
| 21:02:28 | nikos | a7r: Cool, I've got an example X program that adjusts volume using ASD, it's very basic and barebones with no visual feedback, but it seems to work. |
| 21:02:42 | nikos | a7r: I'll have something slowly but surely. |
| 21:12:44 | sgodsell | is away: I have got to go! |
| 22:52:59 | sgodsell | is back (gone 04:23:59) |