| 00:00:26 | blakangel | hmm |
| 00:04:18 | blakangel | ppp not workin now |
| 00:04:19 | blakangel | ;( |
| 00:04:50 | DaveH | hmmm Im USBing myself so cant help with that one sorry |
| 00:04:57 | blakangel | oh |
| 00:04:57 | blakangel | darn |
| 00:05:03 | blakangel | it worked before i had x |
| 00:05:04 | blakangel | hmmm |
| 00:08:37 | blakangel | ah |
| 00:08:40 | blakangel | i forgot to insmod |
| 00:08:42 | blakangel | the ppp stuff |
| 00:13:48 | blakangel | modules |
| 00:14:07 | DaveH | ive lost my usbnet |
| 00:14:28 | blakangel | ;/ |
| 00:14:57 | DaveH | back again |
| 00:18:19 | blakangel | heh |
| 00:18:26 | blakangel | what x apps do you have? |
| 00:25:43 | DaveH | dillo toad thats it pretty much so far |
| 00:26:34 | blakangel | the todo list |
| 00:26:36 | blakangel | thing? |
| 00:26:53 | DaveH | nods toad is dillo is a web browser |
| 00:27:01 | blakangel | ic |
| 00:27:09 | blakangel | hmm |
| 00:27:15 | blakangel | you know how to suep a menu? |
| 00:27:16 | blakangel | setup |
| 00:27:39 | DaveH | not yet .. Im tying to get rid of ion atm |
| 00:27:43 | blakangel | heh |
| 00:27:49 | blakangel | i saw during installatio |
| 00:27:54 | blakangel | it made some symlink |
| 00:27:58 | blakangel | from x-window-manager to ion |
| 00:28:18 | DaveH | nods .. I keep getting distracted |
| 00:28:54 | blakangel | here we go |
| 00:28:57 | blakangel | looks like |
| 00:29:04 | blakangel | its the symlink /usr/bin/x-window-manager |
| 00:29:09 | blakangel | is linked to ion |
| 00:29:12 | blakangel | so rm that symlink |
| 00:30:07 | blakangel | /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/ion |
| 00:30:12 | blakangel | looks like some config stuff in there |
| 00:36:20 | Disconnect | ponders. 3 large 1topping pizzas? ;) |
| 00:36:24 | blakangel | heh |
| 00:36:27 | blakangel | nice |
| 00:36:33 | blakangel | i can't figure out ion |
| 00:39:08 | Disconnect | now lets see if the pizza actually shows up ;) |
| 00:39:29 | blakangel | whered u order from |
| 00:39:32 | blakangel | why wouldnt it show up |
| 00:39:53 | DaveH | ok I have black box running thats better .. now to play ;-> |
| 00:40:20 | blakangel | im gettin blackbox too |
| 00:40:21 | blakangel | hehe |
| 00:40:26 | Disconnect | blakangel: papa johns. delivered to the hotelroom. |
| 00:40:29 | blakangel | its done |
| 00:40:39 | blakangel | Disconnect: nice choice-1 |
| 00:41:57 | DaveH | Disconnect: Do you have any info on mouse functions with an ipaq stylas .. IE is is pos to mimic 3 buttons ? |
| 00:42:22 | Disconnect | DaveH: you really should subscribe to the list. or at least search it every now and then. |
| 00:42:34 | blakangel | im on the familiar list |
| 00:42:42 | blakangel | is there any other lists i should follow? |
| 00:42:55 | Disconnect | just realized he's in the wrong window. fscking pirch. |
| 00:42:59 | blakangel | hehe |
| 00:43:06 | DaveH | good point where do i get the archive ? |
| 00:43:53 | blakangel | its linnked off handhelds.org |
| 00:43:53 | blakangel | somewhere |
| 00:43:57 | blakangel | where the mailing list page is |
| 00:44:26 | blakangel | anyone use CF stuff |
| 00:44:31 | blakangel | my ipaq came with a CF sleeve |
| 00:54:58 | blakangel | hi jim |
| 00:58:05 | Jim7J1AJH | Good morning. |
| 00:58:53 | DaveH | blackangle:have you looked at teh familierQTPalmtop stuff |
| 00:58:56 | blakangel | nope |
| 00:58:59 | blakangel | hmm |
| 00:59:01 | blakangel | i dont think |
| 00:59:05 | blakangel | the display is blanking |
| 00:59:08 | blakangel | by itself |
| 00:59:11 | blakangel | you know how to setup apm |
| 00:59:11 | DaveH | try Im gonna reinstall from scratch again |
| 00:59:12 | blakangel | or somethin |
| 00:59:26 | DaveH | nope |
| 00:59:49 | blakangel | hmm |
| 01:03:00 | blakangel | how does this xstroke work |
| 01:03:05 | blakangel | i click the abc thing |
| 01:03:10 | blakangel | and i can draw on the screen |
| 01:03:31 | DaveH | the drawings translate to kdb commands |
| 01:04:49 | blakangel | ic |
| 01:05:02 | blakangel | i need to calibrate badly |
| 01:05:26 | DaveH | here we go again installing linuc for the 4 time ;-> |
| 01:06:19 | DaveH | seriosely look at the QT distro .. it sits onto of familiar and looks more complete |
| 01:06:30 | blakangel | hmm |
| 01:06:38 | blakangel | what about pocketlinux |
| 01:07:01 | DaveH | looks ok more java orientated |
| 01:07:10 | DaveH | from what i can see |
| 01:07:19 | blakangel | hmm |
| 01:07:22 | blakangel | i dont like java |
| 01:20:27 | DaveH | sgodspell:Eveing dude |
| 01:22:26 | sgodsell | Hello DaveH, How is it going? |
| 01:22:35 | blakangel | hi |
| 01:22:54 | sgodsell | Hello blakangel |
| 01:23:48 | DaveH | pretty good pretty good |
| 01:28:48 | blakangel | how do i turn off this thing |
| 01:28:49 | blakangel | heh |
| 01:31:06 | blakangel | i dont think the suspend button works |
| 01:31:10 | blakangel | hmm |
| 01:34:40 | sgodsell | blakangel: What kernel do you have? Version |
| 01:35:03 | blakangel | darn |
| 01:35:04 | blakangel | im not sure |
| 01:35:10 | blakangel | let me turn it back on |
| 01:36:29 | blakangel | Linux familiar 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs #6 Fri Sep 21 17:06:13 EDT 2001 armv4l unknn |
| 01:39:21 | sgodsell | So you are using pre v0.5 familiar |
| 01:40:55 | blakangel | yep |
| 01:40:58 | blakangel | i had 0.4 |
| 01:41:11 | blakangel | but everyone suggestd 0.5 was more functional |
| 01:41:23 | | rumour has it ssh keys is ssh-keygen -b 512 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key -N ''; ssh-keygen -d -b 512 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key -N '' |
| 01:41:23 | DaveH | ibot:ssh keys |
| 01:43:19 | blakangel | damn |
| 01:43:22 | blakangel | need to calibrate |
| 01:43:22 | blakangel | again |
| 01:44:04 | | somebody said 2.4.7 was 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs in ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/2.4.7; ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/outgoing also useful. demo feed old now |
| 01:44:04 | sgodsell | ibot 2.4.7 |
| 01:46:00 | blakangel | hmm |
| 01:46:28 | blakangel | is it old already or what |
| 01:53:24 | sgodsell | blakangel: Yes, the familar v0.5 is at -hh6. You need to upgrade to -hh9 or -hh10 |
| 01:53:44 | blakangel | ok |
| 01:53:54 | sgodsell | use lorien |
| 01:53:56 | blakangel | do i need to upgrade the kernel only |
| 01:54:04 | blakangel | or bootldr also |
| 01:54:04 | blakangel | etc |
| 01:54:59 | sgodsell | You don't need to update the bootldr. But what bootldr version are you using? |
| 01:55:33 | blakangel | 2.15.15 i thnk... |
| 01:55:35 | blakangel | bootldr_v2_15_15 |
| 01:55:36 | blakangel | yep |
| 01:56:46 | sgodsell | I personally would update to 2.16.10 bootldr |
| 01:56:50 | | i guess bootldr is at http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/bootldr/ for cvsweb access, or stable binaries under ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/linux/dists and unstable/development versions at ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/bootldr/ |
| 01:56:50 | sgodsell | ibot bootldr |
| 01:57:16 | blakangel | hmm |
| 01:58:01 | blakangel | System-2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs-hh9.map |
| 01:58:05 | blakangel | is that the newest |
| 01:58:21 | blakangel | theres another one named zImage-2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs-hh9.map |
| 01:58:28 | blakangel | or somethin |
| 02:03:42 | blakangel | im gettin the bootldr u recomen |
| 02:03:44 | blakangel | d |
| 02:04:51 | sgodsell | ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/2.4.7/zImage-2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs-hh10 |
| 02:05:08 | sgodsell | ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/bootldr/bootldr_v2_16_10 |
| 02:05:52 | blakangel | yeah |
| 02:06:02 | blakangel | i got the other kernel |
| 02:06:07 | blakangel | the .map thing |
| 02:13:37 | blakangel | ok |
| 02:14:31 | blakangel | no md5sum for that bootldr version |
| 02:14:33 | blakangel | ;/ |
| 02:17:41 | blakangel | should i do it |
| 02:17:49 | blakangel | w/o verifying md5 hash |
| 02:17:50 | blakangel | heh |
| 02:17:58 | jacques | hmm, I wonder what's the diff between the two kernel tags: K2_4_7-rmk3-np1-devfs-hh10 and K2_4_7-rmk3-np1-hh10 |
| 02:18:20 | blakangel | the second one doesnt have devfs |
| 02:18:22 | blakangel | ? |
| 02:18:37 | jacques | ha ha |
| 02:18:42 | jacques | seriously |
| 02:20:33 | blakangel | i dunno |
| 02:21:15 | sgodsell | Hmmm, I wonder myself, but I don't use the feeds for the kernel and modules. I always compile my own |
| 02:21:32 | blakangel | awesome |
| 02:21:46 | blakangel | ive had linux on my ipaq for like 24 hours |
| 02:21:48 | blakangel | i know nothing |
| 02:21:54 | jacques | sgodsell: that's my point - those are tags in CVS |
| 02:22:14 | jacques | sgodsell: why have a devfs and non-devfs? tag when t's just a config change? |
| 02:22:32 | sgodsell | That is true |
| 02:32:02 | blakangel | ok |
| 02:32:03 | blakangel | well |
| 02:32:05 | blakangel | wish me luck |
| 02:32:12 | blakangel | im gonna install that bootldr |
| 02:33:12 | sgodsell | blakangel: I do know this 2.16.10 bootldr is faster for booting than any of the 2.15.x bootldrs |
| 02:33:31 | blakangel | oh |
| 02:33:34 | blakangel | cool |
| 02:33:48 | blakangel | i hope i can turn the ipaq off |
| 02:33:52 | blakangel | witht he new bootldr/kernel |
| 02:33:57 | blakangel | or suspend |
| 02:34:45 | sgodsell | I had 2.16.8 then .10 and .12, and yes you can suspend/resume just fine |
| 02:35:11 | blakangel | k |
| 02:44:25 | blakangel | loading bootldr |
| 02:46:41 | blakangel | should i load a new root jffs2 image |
| 02:46:42 | blakangel | ? |
| 02:49:47 | jacques | sgodsell: you are brave - testing bootldrs! |
| 02:49:51 | blakangel | woops |
| 02:49:59 | blakangel | JFFS2: Erase block at 0x00000000 is not formatted. It will be erased |
| 02:50:00 | blakangel | Cowardly refusing to erase blocks on filesystem with no valid JFFS2 nodes |
| 02:50:00 | blakangel | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 1f:02 |
| 02:51:20 | blakangel | i guess i gotta reset params and linuxargs |
| 02:52:50 | sgodsell | jacques: My iPAQ only lives once ;) |
| 02:53:23 | sgodsell | blakangel: Where bootldr did you install? |
| 02:53:33 | sgodsell | s/Where/Which |
| 02:53:36 | blakangel | the one u told me too |
| 02:53:40 | sgodsell | Good |
| 02:53:44 | blakangel | 2.16.10 |
| 02:53:51 | blakangel | im gonna load the kernel now |
| 02:54:11 | sgodsell | You are going to have only 2 partitons bootldr, and root |
| 02:54:18 | blakangel | ? |
| 02:54:28 | blakangel | ok |
| 02:54:39 | sgodsell | bootldr = 0 = /dev/mtdblock/0, root = 1 = /dev/mtdblock/1 |
| 02:54:57 | blakangel | oh |
| 02:54:59 | blakangel | really |
| 02:55:00 | blakangel | i set it as 2 |
| 02:55:06 | blakangel | that must be why it didnt find it |
| 02:55:13 | blakangel | how do i know that root =1 |
| 02:55:17 | sgodsell | Hmmm, do you have a params partition? |
| 02:55:20 | blakangel | no |
| 02:55:26 | sgodsell | do a |
| 02:55:28 | sgodsell | partition show |
| 02:55:42 | blakangel | bootldr |
| 02:55:43 | blakangel | and root |
| 02:56:07 | blakangel | do u want to see the addresses |
| 02:56:27 | sgodsell | sure |
| 02:56:38 | blakangel | bootldr |
| 02:56:38 | blakangel | base: 00000000 |
| 02:56:38 | blakangel | size: 00040000 |
| 02:56:38 | blakangel | end: 00040000 |
| 02:56:38 | blakangel | flags: 00000002 |
| 02:56:38 | blakangel | root |
| 02:56:40 | blakangel | base: 00040000 |
| 02:56:42 | blakangel | size: 00FC0000 |
| 02:56:44 | blakangel | end: 01000000 |
| 02:56:45 | jacques | dammit this utah redhat mirror keeps dropping off the net! |
| 02:56:46 | blakangel | flags: 00000018 |
| 02:57:17 | sgodsell | jacques You should download from metalab.unc.edu |
| 02:58:05 | sgodsell | I am only getting about 15K per second. But it is better than not getting it :-) |
| 02:58:07 | jacques | hmm, same ping times |
| 02:58:24 | jacques | I wish there was a WORKING mirror in northern CA |
| 02:58:45 | sgodsell | jacques What download speed were you getting? |
| 02:58:47 | jacques | crap - I've already got 400MB |
| 02:58:57 | jacques | sgodsell: about 60-80kB/s |
| 02:59:28 | jacques | mirror.chpc.utah.edu |
| 02:59:41 | jacques | for some reason wget does not like it, so am using galeon to download |
| 02:59:56 | jacques | but it keeps dropping off-net |
| 03:01:30 | blakangel | hrm |
| 03:01:39 | blakangel | how do i upgrade the kernel |
| 03:03:13 | sgodsell | There are a number of ways to update the kernel and modules. But since you are using the feeds. Just use ipkg |
| 03:03:37 | blakangel | oh really |
| 03:03:44 | blakangel | last time i did it |
| 03:03:47 | blakangel | i think i did load kernel |
| 03:03:49 | blakangel | at the bootldr |
| 03:03:56 | blakangel | is confused |
| 03:04:01 | blakangel | hmm |
| 03:04:09 | blakangel | boot> load kernel |
| 03:04:10 | blakangel | Don't understand command>kernel< |
| 03:04:15 | blakangel | not working this time i guess |
| 03:04:36 | sgodsell | blakangel: No you don't do a load kernel |
| 03:04:50 | sgodsell | blakangel: The kernel is in the root partition |
| 03:05:02 | sgodsell | blakangel: under the /boot directory |
| 03:05:49 | blakangel | i see |
| 03:05:55 | blakangel | i i can just copy it there |
| 03:05:57 | blakangel | and reboot |
| 03:07:41 | blakangel | hey |
| 03:07:41 | sgodsell | blakangel: Yes you can. Remember to update the modules as well |
| 03:07:43 | blakangel | it boots now |
| 03:07:48 | blakangel | sgodsell ok |
| 03:08:33 | blakangel | should hh9 show up in pkg list |
| 03:12:56 | blakangel | hmm |
| 03:13:05 | blakangel | i wonder if my serial console is cutting stuff off |
| 03:13:23 | blakangel | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 Sep 27 04:13 zImage -> /boot/zImage-s |
| 03:13:23 | blakangel | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root bin 590300 Sep 21 17:08 zImage-2.4.7-rmk3-np1-ds |
| 03:13:24 | blakangel | # |
| 03:13:27 | blakangel | thats in /boot |
| 03:15:23 | blakangel | i guess i transfer the new kernel in |
| 03:15:29 | blakangel | and make a new symlink |
| 03:18:46 | blakangel | do i need to update any files in /etc |
| 03:18:46 | blakangel | ? |
| 03:22:55 | blakangel | hi |
| 03:30:34 | blakangel | i gotta get to bed |
| 03:30:43 | blakangel | and |
| 03:30:43 | blakangel | sgodsell |
| 03:30:44 | blakangel | thx for the help |
| 03:30:51 | blakangel | the ipaq is going into suspend now too |
| 03:32:06 | jacques | sgodsell: why did you go to a 15 series bootldr? |
| 03:32:16 | jacques | sgodsell: I mean 16 series |
| 03:32:34 | jacques | sgodsell: what features does it have that 15 does not? |
| 03:35:12 | sgodsell | The 2.16.10 bootldr does not flash the green light when you turn it on or from a reset. Also the splash screen is displayed immediately. |
| 03:35:28 | sgodsell | Also the 2.16.10 bootldr actually boots faster |
| 03:36:28 | jacques | sgodsell: how does it boot faster? doesn't it still have to scan the jffs2 partition? |
| 03:37:33 | jacques | sorry, iht the wrong button |
| 03:37:58 | jacques | sgodsell: how does it boot faster? does it still scan the jffs2 partition? |
| 03:40:55 | sgodsell | The 2.16.10 bootldr scan's the jffs2 image after you press Q or type boot |
| 03:41:38 | sgodsell | It still boots faster than 2.15.x |
| 03:41:59 | jacques | nice |
| 03:42:17 | jacques | other than fast boot, any other features of 16 you are usig? |
| 03:42:28 | jacques | I thought I heard about dual boot with wince |
| 03:44:42 | jacques | 97% on disk 2 |
| 03:47:06 | sgodsell | jacques I have heard that as well. But I haven't put CE back on my iPAQ to test that |
| 03:47:16 | | somebody said skiffcluster was at http://handhelds.org/projects/skiffcluster.html |
| 03:47:16 | mirov | ibot: skiffcluster |
| 03:52:21 | sgodsell | is away: I have got to go! |
| 04:20:28 | mirov | Good evening. I've never compiled anything under linux, and I'm afraid I've never used make either. I'm trying to compile xhello.c over on the skiffcluster, and I'm running into a simple problem. Any help out there ? |
| 04:32:38 | mirov | Hi a7r, got time for a simple question for a compile-on-linux newby ? |
| 04:33:01 | a7r | mirov: yeah. |
| 04:33:14 | mirov | Good evening. I've never compiled anything under linux, and I'm afraid I've never used make either. I'm trying to compile xhello.c over on the skiffcluster, and I'm running into a simple problem. Any help out there ? |
| 04:34:58 | mirov | I tried to compile like this: gcc xhello.c -lX11 -o xhello and got a error msg saying that /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lX11. This works fine with solaris... |
| 04:35:14 | a7r | mirov: add -L/usr/X11R6/lib to that line. |
| 04:35:45 | mirov | OK, that should work. Thanks. |
| 04:43:34 | mirov | And in fact it did actually work! |
| 08:09:09 | kita40 | i have problems getting the wireless up and running on familiar 0.5pre. can anyone tell me what files i need to modify? |
| 08:16:49 | defect | kita40: for prism2 based: wlan-ng modules and /etc/pcmcia/wlan-ng.opts |
| 08:17:22 | kita40 | i got a lucent silver pcmcia card. |
| 08:17:41 | defect | is the card being recognized ok? |
| 08:17:50 | defect | module loaded? |
| 08:18:35 | kita40 | no, sometimes the MAC is 00:00:00..00 but removing and inserting a couple of times seems to fix that. |
| 08:18:51 | kita40 | yes, module is loaded. |
| 08:18:53 | defect | and which module is loaded? |
| 08:19:05 | defect | wvlan_cs? |
| 08:19:10 | kita40 | wvlan_cs |
| 08:19:31 | defect | /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts should be the place to set stuff like ESSID |
| 08:20:18 | kita40 | ok. i don't know much about wireless (neither does the temp admin), all i got is a network 'name' and a key phrase. |
| 08:20:49 | defect | you can putr them in wireless.opts |
| 08:21:01 | defect | name = ESSID |
| 08:21:20 | defect | KEY is also an option there... |
| 08:21:24 | kita40 | ok. what about config.opts? there are som options for the module there. |
| 08:21:59 | defect | does the same, I tink, but changing in wireless.opts makes more sense... |
| 08:22:46 | kita40 | ok, the KEY parameter in wireless.opts, what is the format? KEY="s:my_key" or KEY="my_key"? |
| 08:23:25 | defect | not sure... try both |
| 08:23:53 | kita40 | ok, i supposed to use dhcp to get an ipnr. where do i set that up? |
| 08:24:19 | defect | network.opts I think... |
| 08:24:35 | defect | It on by default, I think. |
| 08:25:27 | kita40 | ok. thanks for your help. i continue testing. |
| 08:43:22 | kita40 | i get the errors "wvlan_cs: eth0 Tx timed out! Resetting card", "NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out". any ideas what to check? |
| 13:33:42 | DocSnyder | is away: I'm busy. |
| 13:42:17 | DocSnyder | is back (gone 00:08:35) |
| 13:44:42 | blakangel | hi |
| 13:44:49 | blakangel | im upgrading to hh10 |
| 13:44:52 | blakangel | right now |
| 13:45:13 | blakangel | whats goin on |
| 13:49:06 | blakangel | is there an easy way |
| 13:49:15 | blakangel | to upgrade all my modules |
| 13:49:17 | blakangel | to hh10 |
| 13:49:24 | blakangel | ? |
| 13:51:08 | | it has been said that 2.4.7 is 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs in ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/2.4.7; ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/outgoing also useful. demo feed old now |
| 13:51:08 | nikos | ibot: 2.4.7 |
| 13:51:13 | nikos | blakangel: Edit /etc/ipkg.conf |
| 13:51:28 | blakangel | oh |
| 13:51:28 | nikos | blakangel: Add the lorien feed above as a new feed above the unstable feed. |
| 13:51:34 | blakangel | thanks dude |
| 13:51:36 | nikos | blakangel: then: 'ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade' |
| 13:51:39 | blakangel | i was downloading them all |
| 13:51:41 | nikos | blakangel: Assuming you have network. |
| 13:51:42 | blakangel | manually |
| 13:51:45 | nikos | blakangel: :) |
| 13:51:48 | blakangel | thanks a bunch |
| 13:52:10 | | somebody said ipkg was the Itsy Package Management System used by Familiar: http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/iPKG or find the source in the handhelds.org CVS http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/familiar/dist/ipkg/ |
| 13:52:10 | nikos | ibot: ipkg |
| 13:52:26 | nikos | blakangel: You might want to look at that wiki page to familiarize yourself with ipkg. |
| 13:52:30 | blakangel | k |
| 13:55:49 | blakangel | ahh |
| 13:55:50 | blakangel | its working |
| 13:55:51 | blakangel | nikos |
| 13:55:54 | blakangel | thanks again |
| 13:56:07 | nikos | blakangel: You're welcome. |
| 13:56:52 | blakangel | i installed blackbox last nite |
| 13:57:33 | blakangel | i need to read xstroke's help files |
| 13:57:44 | blakangel | bbiab gonna go get breakfast |
| 13:59:01 | blakangel | //usr/lib/ipkg/info/8390-modules-2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs.postinst: ./kernel/drivers |
| 13:59:01 | blakangel | D |
| 13:59:07 | blakangel | those ok? |
| 13:59:18 | nikos | blakangel: hmm? |
| 13:59:36 | blakangel | /net/8390.o: not found |
| 13:59:43 | blakangel | cant find some module |
| 13:59:45 | blakangel | just wondering if that error is ok |
| 13:59:46 | nikos | blakangel: There's a bug in the module installations. |
| 13:59:54 | nikos | blakangel: After all the modules are installed... |
| 13:59:58 | nikos | blakangel: do 'depmod -a' |
| 14:00:11 | nikos | blakangel: Then you can load whatever you need to. |
| 14:00:26 | nikos | blakangel: Though if you installed a new kernel, you need to reboot of course. |
| 14:00:34 | blakangel | ok |
| 14:00:35 | blakangel | thx |
| 14:03:50 | sjohnson | hi nikos |
| 14:04:01 | nikos | sjohnson: Morning |
| 14:14:15 | blakangel | Linux wink 2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs #22 Fri Oct 12 16:40:30 EDT 2001 armv4l unknown |
| 14:14:18 | blakangel | woohoo |
| 14:14:31 | blakangel | wait a secon |
| 14:14:34 | blakangel | d |
| 14:14:37 | blakangel | i think thats right |
| 14:18:55 | nikos | blakangel: Yes, that's right. |
| 14:21:35 | blakangel | ye |
| 14:21:40 | blakangel | ai didnt see the hh10 on it |
| 14:21:43 | blakangel | but then i looked at the date |
| 14:25:10 | blakangel | bbl |
| 14:25:13 | blakangel | gotta go to work |
| 14:37:36 | nikos | is away: Errand\ |
| 14:54:24 | nikos | is back |
| 15:12:36 | fabulus | hi all! |
| 15:12:45 | nikos | Hello fabulus |
| 15:13:12 | fabulus | i've just installed familiar v0.5pre... |
| 15:13:18 | fabulus | ... how to setup ppp? |
| 15:13:36 | fabulus | no pppd in the rootfs |
| 15:14:40 | nikos | fabulus: That was a mistake, both ppp and ssh were left out. Download them from the unstable feed to your desktop, transfer them to the ipaq with zmodem, and install locally. |
| 15:14:44 | | unstable feed is, like, at http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l/ |
| 15:14:44 | nikos | ibot: unstable feed |
| 15:16:55 | fabulus | which command to receive zmodem files on the ipaq? |
| 15:17:18 | nikos | fabulus: None necessary, if you are logged in it's started automatically. |
| 15:17:44 | fabulus | nikos: ok thanks... now i'll try!!! |
| 17:45:58 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 07:21:17) |
| 17:59:24 | wrick | Hello people I've got a few question for you people regarding the new iPAQ |
| 18:01:47 | wrick | Yo anybody there ?? |
| 20:02:11 | Bakka | hi |
| 20:02:34 | Bakka | is there a way to free the serial port when rz is locking it ? |
| 20:06:44 | nikos | Bakka: ctrl-c should cancel rz I believe. |
| 20:07:06 | nikos | Bakka: Maybe not... |
| 20:07:13 | Bakka | yep i killed rz |
| 20:07:18 | Bakka | not in ps anymore |
| 20:07:30 | Bakka | but ttys0 seems to be locked |
| 20:07:49 | Bakka | should i reboot ? |
| 20:08:05 | nikos | Bakka: ttys0? Are you tallking about the ipaq or the desktop? |
| 20:09:03 | Bakka | ttySA0, on the ipaq |
| 20:10:05 | nikos | Bakka: You should have just waited for rz to timeout. |
| 20:10:26 | nikos | Bakka: It times out in 90 seconds I believe. |
| 20:11:04 | Bakka | hmmm ok, this timeout is off now, but still so answer on serial port ... this will take a year to reupload files if i reboot ;-) |
| 20:13:42 | Bakka | or is there a way to make a sort of reinit without loding the content of the flash card ? |
| 20:13:52 | Bakka | s/d/s |
| 20:14:42 | nikos | Bakka: I'm totally lost, flashrom does not reqiure power and is unchanged across reboots. |
| 20:15:59 | Bakka | i am talking about ramfs |
| 20:16:16 | Bakka | isn't it flushed at each reboot ? |
| 20:16:57 | nikos | Bakka: Yes ramfs is RAM not Flash, it will be lost. |
| 20:18:20 | Bakka | err isn't ramfs physically on the 32mb flash card (on a 3630) ? |
| 20:19:02 | nikos | Bakka: No, it's part of the 32MB of RAM. |
| 20:19:40 | Bakka | i thought ram was physically an internal flash memory too, sorry |
| 20:55:11 | sgodsell | is away: I have got to go! |
| 21:50:39 | nikos | a7r: What python are you working on for v0.5? |
| 22:22:27 | mallum | nikos: do you know how to suspend the ipaq from the commandline ( with 0.5 pre ) ? |
| 23:05:47 | pattieja | is away: home |
| 23:12:15 | dave | Evening folks |
| 23:57:11 | sgodsell | is back (gone 03:01:59) |
| 23:58:58 | dave | hi there sgodsell |
| 23:59:15 | sgodsell | Hello dave |