| 02:31:15 | Zaerc | hi, could anyone be bothered to lend me a hand? |
| 02:32:48 | Zaerc | I recently got my dual pcmcia sleeve |
| 02:33:13 | Zaerc | I have re installed familiar v0.5 |
| 02:33:53 | Zaerc | but the cardmgr keeps giving loads of errors |
| 02:34:14 | a7r | there are errors that are OKay,.. what kind of errors are you getting? |
| 02:34:50 | Zaerc | complaining about ioports memory and irq's |
| 02:35:01 | a7r | that's fine, there's a bug in some config information. |
| 02:35:18 | Zaerc | ok |
| 02:36:29 | Zaerc | but when I plug in my 2G toshiba microdrive, i cant fdisk /dev/hda |
| 02:38:16 | Zaerc | loads of errors ending in: |
| 02:38:52 | Zaerc | cardmgr[..]:get dev info on socket 0 failed:resource temporarily not available |
| 02:38:55 | Zaerc | :( |
| 02:39:11 | Zaerc | on the console |
| 02:39:39 | Zaerc | no difference when I start with the drive inserted |
| 02:40:01 | Zaerc | I was hoping for any suggestions/ideas where to look |
| 02:41:11 | Zaerc | since the other microdrives (under supported hardware) "worked right out of the box" |
| 02:41:18 | Zaerc | I'm pretty much stuck |
| 02:42:21 | a7r | which Familiar are you running? |
| 02:42:24 | Zaerc | my experience with pcmcia cards is rather outdated :( |
| 02:42:30 | Zaerc | recent v0.5 |
| 02:42:45 | Zaerc | installed and updated several hours ago |
| 02:45:12 | Zaerc | desperate as I was I even installed the full task-familiar-complete |
| 02:58:44 | stealph | I have a question..when ever I press the power down button on my compaq it powers my ipaq correctly yet when I bring it back up, I can't navigate in X |
| 02:59:01 | a7r | stealph: which version? |
| 03:00:13 | stealph | v4 familiar |
| 03:01:36 | stealph | I can't move the cursor in X..also the backlight doesn't come back up |
| 03:02:39 | Zaerc | have you got the right version of the bootloader installed? |
| 03:02:52 | stealph | yes the latest |
| 03:09:31 | stealph | when I powerup the serial outputs the following: |
| 03:09:40 | Zaerc | i remember someone on the mailing list who "downgraded" to 2.14.5 of the bootloader |
| 03:09:48 | stealph | h3600_lite_power: timeout |
| 03:09:52 | Zaerc | to get his apm working porperly |
| 03:11:54 | stealph | it's strange..the apm command displays the same message after I attempt the power off...ill keep looking around the mailing list... |
| 03:18:02 | Zaerc | that's wierd, the package 3c589-modules-2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs |
| 03:18:02 | Zaerc | apears to be empty |
| 03:19:16 | Zaerc | no wonder the module can't be found |
| 03:27:11 | Zaerc | that's the other card I have, which (obviously) doesn't work either |
| 03:48:37 | DaveH | anyone know of a nice root window clock app available for iPAQ ? |
| 03:50:08 | nelson | if you're running ion, the concept of "root window" doesn't exist. |
| 03:50:51 | nelson | IMHO, you want my 'rsysstat' program, although it is as yet unpublished. :-( |
| 03:52:04 | DaveH | im running bb. Hence I have root. ;-> I really just want something in the form of a analog clock I can have running in the root window .. |
| 04:02:51 | Zaerc | btw can anyone tell me which package provides the "/etc/gtk-menu" file |
| 04:03:31 | Zaerc | my menu button keeps disapearing, complaining it cant find "/etc/gtk-menu" |
| 04:09:01 | nelson | Do you have menu-tiny installed? |
| 04:09:53 | Zaerc | doesn't apear so |
| 04:10:00 | Zaerc | ill try installing it |
| 04:13:32 | Zaerc | yes that did the trick thanx |
| 04:16:37 | Zaerc | strange that it wasn't included in task-complete |
| 04:19:53 | nelson | Zaerc: yr welcome. |
| 04:30:28 | Zaerc | hmm gcardinfo sees the drive |
| 04:31:51 | Zaerc | no irq and no i/o state=busy :^( |
| 04:33:50 | Zaerc | hmmm, maybe syslog'll show some more info |
| 05:41:02 | mirov | Anyone know how to format a microdrive ? I can't find fdisk |
| 05:44:24 | Zaerc | have you got the fdisk package installed? |
| 05:45:38 | mirov | Nope, but I do now. Thanks. |
| 05:46:04 | Zaerc | that usually helps ;^) |
| 05:46:51 | jacques | :-) |
| 05:47:29 | mirov | OK, OK already. I'm having enough trouble translating solaris commands into linux... |
| 05:51:00 | Zaerc | any luck? |
| 05:52:59 | mirov | Got it partitioned. What file system should I use, I understand there are several to pick from ? |
| 05:53:41 | Zaerc | depends on stuff like wether you want (win)dos to be able to access it |
| 05:53:56 | mirov | Nope, just linux. |
| 05:54:28 | jacques | i use reiserfs |
| 05:54:47 | Zaerc | I'd use ext2 |
| 05:54:53 | jacques | why? |
| 05:55:03 | Zaerc | but reiserfs seems to be cool 2 |
| 05:55:08 | jacques | journalling file systems are perfect for PDAs |
| 05:55:17 | jacques | i used ext2 for months on my ipaq |
| 05:55:27 | jacques | i HATEd waiting for fsck to complete |
| 05:57:27 | mirov | Hmmm, another missing pkg I suppose... |
| 05:57:35 | Zaerc | my guess would be you'll need a few more packages |
| 05:57:43 | jacques | wow |
| 05:57:45 | jacques | wb |
| 05:57:49 | jacques | netsplit |
| 05:58:15 | Zaerc | something like ext2-modules |
| 05:58:35 | mirov | ka-ching! I have a mounted file system. Thanks! |
| 05:59:00 | Zaerc | ur welcome |
| 06:00:17 | Zaerc | now if only I could get my own microdrive working... :^( |
| 06:00:34 | Zaerc | which one have you got btw? |
| 06:00:36 | mirov | You seem wide awake. You out in CA (like me) ? I read earlier you have a 2GB ? |
| 06:01:27 | Zaerc | actually I'm in holland, and it's 8:00 over here, close to my bedtime ;^) |
| 06:02:02 | Zaerc | yep a 2G toshiba, but it won't budge |
| 06:02:54 | Zaerc | gcardinfo sees it after a little persuasion, but it gets no irq or io |
| 06:03:01 | Zaerc | and the status remains busy |
| 06:03:15 | Zaerc | how does your cardinfo look? |
| 06:03:21 | jacques | im in CA |
| 06:04:36 | mirov | This stuff is cool. A few more years and we'll have 10-100GB CF drives. I'm installing gcardinfo... |
| 06:05:36 | jacques | mirov: which fs did you end up using? |
| 06:05:39 | mirov | Got it installed. Ran it, got a window showing the 802.11b card and ATA/IDE fixed disk |
| 06:05:39 | Zaerc | There was allready a 5G Toshiba on the compatibility list |
| 06:06:19 | Zaerc | does it show irq/io when you "click" on the cards? |
| 06:06:38 | mirov | Nope. |
| 06:06:46 | mirov | jacques: I used ext2 |
| 06:07:06 | Zaerc | so I shouldnt be worrie about that ;^) thnx |
| 06:07:44 | mirov | Actually what is it supposed to show? Nothing changes at all when I click on things. |
| 06:07:56 | Zaerc | my drive now shows as anonymous memory |
| 06:08:23 | Zaerc | below I see some info like irq i/o and state |
| 06:08:47 | Zaerc | vcc vpp protect |
| 06:09:31 | Zaerc | i was just wondering if you saw any values for irq or i/o there |
| 06:09:32 | mirov | I get that also, but they sure aren't very dynamic and VCC/VPP are shown as 0.0 |
| 06:09:43 | mirov | Nope, no values for IRQ or I/O |
| 06:10:01 | Zaerc | and what state? |
| 06:10:40 | Zaerc | probably not BUSY or EMPTY like i have |
| 06:10:44 | mirov | busy |
| 06:10:51 | Zaerc | ah ok |
| 06:11:21 | Zaerc | at least now I know what it's supposed to look like ;^) |
| 06:13:12 | Zaerc | maybee the drive itself is broken |
| 06:13:55 | Zaerc | think i'll try to find a laptop to test it |
| 06:14:22 | Zaerc | (maybe after some sleep) |
| 06:14:41 | mirov | To get my 802.11 card up I had to put an entry in /etc/config |
| 06:16:49 | Zaerc | I don't seem to have that file on my machine |
| 06:17:21 | mirov | oops, try /etc/pcmcia/config. See if it has something for your card type. |
| 06:18:20 | Zaerc | hmmm interesting |
| 06:19:46 | mirov | For example I had to add this to get it to know what driver to use: |
| 06:19:46 | mirov | card "Addtron*" |
| 06:19:47 | mirov | manfid 0x0156, 0x0002 |
| 06:19:47 | mirov | bind "prism2_cs" |
| 06:24:45 | Zaerc | well I'm quite sure that the proper modules get loaded automagically |
| 06:26:45 | Zaerc | and I gather from the hardwre compatibility list that all the "other" microdrives work "out of the box" |
| 06:27:03 | Zaerc | even the 5G version of this one |
| 06:27:25 | mirov | Mine did, no work at all (except having your help). |
| 06:27:35 | Zaerc | so the next logical step would be to make sure that the drive works properly |
| 06:28:07 | Zaerc | and maybe test the sleeve (with a suppotred card) too |
| 06:28:59 | Zaerc | unfortunately I'm not that lucky |
| 06:29:51 | mirov | Anyone awake that knows why madplay complains: |
| 06:29:53 | mirov | output: required number of channels not available |
| 06:29:53 | mirov | decode: error while decoding |
| 07:03:42 | Zaerc | is gonna hit the hay |
| 07:03:49 | Zaerc | i'll be back... |
| 07:59:59 | DragonEagle | is away: good night all |
| 13:34:18 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 05:34:18) |
| 16:04:28 | DragonEagle | is away: just away |
| 16:04:45 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 00:00:01) |
| 16:42:01 | nelson | is away: lunch |
| 18:08:54 | nelson | is back |
| 18:15:15 | DragonEagle | is away: just away |
| 19:14:23 | dusk | is away. Automatically set away [SZon] |
| 19:28:26 | Sniz | I have a few newbee ipaq familiar question. how do i set the linuxargs to stop booting to ttySA0 |
| 19:28:43 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 01:13:28) |
| 19:29:30 | Sniz | more aptly put how do i get a bash shell on the ipaq at boot? |
| 19:31:48 | Sniz | please |
| 19:33:35 | Ng | Sniz: I'm not sure if you can interact with the console |
| 19:33:41 | Ng | but I haven't tried it myself |
| 19:36:29 | Sniz | I must have missed a step. when i boot i get the little penguin on the ipag but the only way I can interact is via hyperterm, shouldn't it boot into x or something |
| 19:40:08 | Ng | have you just installed the task-bootstrap root image? |
| 19:40:19 | Sniz | yes |
| 19:40:55 | Ng | if so, that doesn't include X, if you look at the bottom of the install instructions it suggests installing a few things, one of which is 'task-x' (I think, it's something like that). That will stick the X server on for you |
| 19:42:24 | Sniz | my ipaq doesn't have network other then serial will i have to xmodem all the packages in? |
| 19:43:57 | Disconnect | Sniz: basically. although you can set up ppp over serial. |
| 19:44:11 | Sniz | doh, my bad |
| 19:44:19 | Disconnect | or (even faster, but more picky and harder to set up) usbnet if you have a usb cable/cradle. |
| 19:44:53 | Sniz | sweet, where do i find usbnet howto? |
| 19:46:18 | | it has been said that usbnet is at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking |
| 19:46:18 | Ng | ibot usbnet |
| 19:47:16 | Sniz | that ibot dude is smart, hehehe |
| 20:29:26 | Disconnect | Sniz: most important thing you'll ever know: if "ibot <whatever>" fails, "ibot search for <whatever>" |
| 20:29:44 | Disconnect | well. maybe not MOST important. eg if you are diabetic, knowing about insulin is more important. but not by much! ;) |
| 20:34:19 | sgodsell | is away: I have got to go! |
| 20:51:34 | Sniz | ok i'm stuck, i can't get the network ppp running because ttySA0 is already in use by the console, how can i copy the needed packages into my ipaq. |
| 21:44:31 | Ng | gah, intimate won't boot |
| 22:27:29 | Disconnect | Ng: try #intimate ;) |
| 22:27:53 | Ng | I have, thanks :) |
| 23:04:06 | greeno | Good morning all |
| 23:27:48 | greeno | anyone able to offer me advice with a iPaq H3660? |
| 23:34:00 | DocSnyder | That depends on which problem you have with it ;-) |
| 23:34:58 | greeno | DocSnyder: not a problem as such, more a couple of queries. I've just brought one, dual pcmcia, 340md, keyboard etc. I want to but linux on it, but I'm after some real world advice as the best track to follow |
| 23:36:11 | DocSnyder | greeno: Oh yeah, fully equipped from the beginning... |
| 23:37:14 | greeno | DocSnyder: if you are going to be a bear - be a grizzly! I already had the MD for my camera - so I had to get the adapter etc |
| 23:37:19 | greeno | :-) |
| 23:38:04 | DocSnyder | greeno: Do you already have GNU/Linux on it or is this what you're asking about? |
| 23:41:05 | DocSnyder | greeno: If your iPAQ is still WinCEing, you'd at first have to change the bootloader. But that's dangerous - if it fails you'll turn your iPAQ into a paperweight. |
| 23:45:10 | greeno | DocSnyder: hence my coming here to seek advice from those that have likely to have done it..... any good howto's? I've read a few, but they vary and normally I would just figure it out on my own - but I don't want a $1500 paperweight |
| 23:50:25 | sgodsell | is back (gone 03:16:06) |
| 23:52:16 | DocSnyder | greeno: For RTFM check "http://handhelds.org", especially "http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/install/H3600/install.html". |
| 23:53:05 | greeno | DocSnyder: appreciate the link - thanks for you time |
| 23:53:13 | DocSnyder | greeno: I rtfm'ed there to build my iPAQ and succeeded. |
| 23:53:29 | greeno | DocSnyder: now thats the sort of recommendation I was after! ;-) |
| 23:53:30 | greeno | thanks |
| 23:54:10 | DocSnyder | greeno: np, probably you ask the people on #handhelds.org, they flash their bootloader quite regularly ;-) |
| 23:55:06 | greeno | heh - /join'ing now |
| 23:55:08 | greeno | thanks |