| 02:25:04 | sgodsell | is back (gone 07:13:06) |
| 03:14:04 | paul | I need help getting familiar installed |
| 03:14:58 | paul | first time on irc, can anybody hear me? |
| 03:21:52 | mirov | paul: Hi Paul. How long you been waiting ? |
| 03:22:24 | paul | Hi, only a few minutes. |
| 03:22:45 | mirov | What type of ipaq do yo have ? |
| 03:22:59 | paul | 3630 |
| 03:23:20 | paul | I've used bootblaster and think the bootldr is in ok. |
| 03:23:42 | mirov | So you already backed up WinCE ? |
| 03:23:52 | paul | not really |
| 03:24:06 | paul | Haven't really used it much yet. Necessary? |
| 03:24:31 | mirov | I myself never plan to go back either, but thought I'd ask. |
| 03:25:00 | paul | I can hold down the action key and do reset; The Penguin comes up. |
| 03:25:26 | paul | 'Q' brings up brand new WinCE (It makes me do the screen tap again) |
| 03:25:58 | paul | However, the calendar button does nothing. |
| 03:26:08 | | it has been said that bootblaster is the osloader replacement at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/BootBlaster |
| 03:26:08 | mirov | ibot: bootblaster |
| 03:26:22 | mirov | I haven't used boot blaster, guess it is new... |
| 03:27:15 | paul | I have a penguin in the upper-right, and two options (calendar or Q) |
| 03:27:28 | paul | It says Rev 2.16.19 at bottom. |
| 03:27:59 | paul | Should I try the norm (OSloader, I think) and see if that works. |
| 03:28:08 | paul | I can still get back to WinCE. |
| 03:28:54 | mirov | Do you have a serial link set up to your ipaq (it: from ipaq to PC/other host ) ? |
| 03:29:26 | paul | Yes, just made one from my USB. Tested ok on a Windows PC. |
| 03:29:50 | paul | Am I supposed to be trying a terminal something or other from the PC at this |
| 03:29:52 | paul | time? |
| 03:30:47 | paul | I guess I haven't actually gotten to the Familiar part quite yet. |
| 03:31:52 | mirov | Cool. You'll need something to do a x-modem download also. You can connect to the ipaq over the serial port at 115200 baud, 8 bits, no parity. |
| 03:32:15 | mirov | You should be able to hit the space bar and get the ipaq to print a boot prompt. |
| 03:32:39 | paul | That's what I don't get yet. |
| 03:32:51 | paul | x-modem? Hyperterminal? |
| 03:33:08 | paul | Should I be doing this from my Linux box? |
| 03:33:29 | paul | I've not communicated directly over serial before. So, I'm not sure |
| 03:33:38 | paul | how to start the link myself. |
| 03:34:58 | mirov | And you are pretty sure you don't have tx/rx swapped ? X-modem is a very old protocol for doing file transfers over a modem (serial) connection. My host is a unix system so I just tip into the ipaq and then use lsz for the file transfer. Can you tip with linux ? |
| 03:35:46 | paul | The serial definitely worked using Windows autosync stuff. Still does |
| 03:35:52 | paul | if I try, in fact. |
| 03:36:00 | paul | tip? |
| 03:36:32 | paul | I'm comfortable running command-line stuff on my linux box. Is there something called x-modem? |
| 03:36:48 | mirov | Guess it is only a unix thing then. Anyone of you Linux-natives out there that can help paul ? |
| 03:36:56 | mirov | See if you can find lsz |
| 03:41:06 | paul | Ok, I'll download lsz on my linux machine. I'll have to leave to try that. |
| 03:41:18 | mirov | OK. |
| 03:41:19 | paul | I found the programs to install for it though. |
| 03:41:37 | mirov | BTW, what timezone are you in? |
| 03:41:45 | paul | EST |
| 03:42:02 | paul | Is my next step to initiate a connection from my machine? |
| 03:42:19 | mirov | Makes sense, doing important stuff at midnight... |
| 03:42:44 | paul | Is my next goal to get the boot prompt in the x-modem console? |
| 03:43:34 | mirov | I assume you are trying to follow the instructions for the bootblaster, right? The part that has you saving the WINCE images pretty much buzzes out the serial link. (or is that how you got the bootblaster bits into the ipaq to start with?) |
| 03:45:01 | paul | I used the serial link to a Windows PC to get the bootblaster and bootldr into my iPaq |
| 03:45:28 | paul | I found lsz/lrzsz stuff and I'm going to use the minicom stuff too. Thanks. |
| 03:46:03 | mirov | So connect away and see if you can get a serial boot> prompt (by hitting the space bar) |
| 03:46:24 | paul | thanks |
| 04:29:51 | sgodsell | is away: Good night everyone |
| 05:49:23 | mirov | root |
| 05:49:37 | DragonEagle | toot |
| 05:49:48 | mirov | rats, wrong window again... |
| 05:50:00 | DragonEagle | :) |
| 06:00:37 | Geoffco | Hello |
| 06:09:06 | DragonEagle | is away: night all |
| 06:30:49 | mrimbert | Hello |
| 17:53:01 | linux-lla | i just loaded familiar .5 on my new ipaq, 1st time install, i install task_complete but I can't do anything except scribble, what next? |
| 17:53:58 | linux-lla | should i be able to get a shell or do i need to use minicom \ hyperterm to run anything |
| 17:54:36 | linux-lla | please |
| 17:55:12 | linux-lla | is this the wrong irc channel for such questions? |
| 17:55:38 | | linux-lla: huh? |
| 17:55:38 | linux-lla | ibot shell |
| 17:55:52 | | linux-lla: sorry... |
| 17:55:52 | linux-lla | ibot task_complete |
| 17:56:00 | | linux-lla: excuse me? |
| 17:56:00 | linux-lla | ibot task |
| 17:56:18 | linux-lla | damn even ibot hates me, hehehe |
| 17:56:29 | sgodsell | What do you want on your iPAQ, or what do you want to do with it in the long run? |
| 17:56:40 | | Sorry, sgodsell, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 17:56:40 | sgodsell | ibot shutup |
| 17:57:42 | linux-lla | i want it to run my network test apps, ssh, browser, the usuall linux stuff |
| 17:58:09 | sgodsell | do you have a pcmcia sleeve (single or dual) |
| 17:59:19 | linux-lla | single, with 3c589 card that won't work missing module, Orinocco that works fine. |
| 18:00:32 | linux-lla | i installed task_complete and it loaded a bunch of stuff, do I need to install task_x, and how do i enter commands? |
| 18:02:33 | linux-lla | yes these are dumb question i should have asked before i install the OS but i couldn't wait |
| 18:26:51 | linux-lla | is there a better time to ask questions? ie. weekdays? |
| 18:28:37 | [DoG] | greetings all |
| 19:07:14 | sgodsell | is away: bbiaw |
| 19:58:05 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 08:35:38) |
| 21:04:06 | erics | hello |
| 21:04:22 | erics | can anyone tell me if familiar comes with vi? |
| 21:06:07 | DragonEagle | erics: yep |
| 21:52:25 | EGg0 | is away: taking a makeup exam online... it's a brave new world alright! |
| 23:46:56 | EGg0_away | is back (gone 01:54:27) |