| 01:07:43 | Argo | well, got a kestion.. i wonder why with bootldr 2.16.19 i have no partition params |
| 01:07:47 | Argo | ? |
| 01:08:05 | a7r | because parameters are now stored in the root filesystem. |
| 01:09:00 | Argo | arf oki :)) thx |
| 01:09:12 | Argo | i spent 2 days on this point huhu |
| 01:39:56 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 02:20:45) |
| 02:29:08 | DragonEagle | is away: just away |
| 02:57:21 | darkmane | you made it drew ;) |
| 03:17:11 | Zaerc | ah-hah so there *is* life on this channel |
| 03:18:17 | a7r | yeah, someone's pretty much always awake. |
| 03:18:21 | Zaerc | wishes that he wasn't actually this drunk |
| 03:18:57 | Zaerc | I have some questions I wish I could remember ;^) |
| 03:19:04 | a7r | laf. |
| 03:19:35 | Zaerc | ennieways fam .5 rox |
| 03:19:56 | a7r | glad to hear that. |
| 03:20:18 | Zaerc | the 2 gig toshiba works great now |
| 03:20:34 | Zaerc | sort of like a hw report ;^) |
| 03:21:17 | Zaerc | (pcmcia harddrive) well thanx |
| 03:21:23 | a7r | nod. |
| 03:22:21 | Zaerc | sorry 4 beeing drunk :^( |
| 03:22:57 | Zaerc | I have some tips though |
| 03:23:12 | Argo | don't be sorry, it happened sometimes.... (alcoholic !:) |
| 03:23:34 | Zaerc | like 4 istance i had to link this stdc++ lib in order to get gcardinfo functioning |
| 03:24:13 | Zaerc | finetuning i guess |
| 03:25:03 | Zaerc | ow and ipkg works better with #!/bin/sh as the first line |
| 03:25:18 | Zaerc | instead of #!/bin/ash |
| 03:25:31 | Zaerc | (which i deistalled :^) |
| 03:26:18 | a7r | hah. |
| 03:26:33 | Zaerc | now I'm just ranting arent I? |
| 03:26:58 | Argo | well.... can't get why there's no /dev/ramfs on familiar 0.5, zoup re-installing 0.4 :/ |
| 03:27:25 | a7r | Argo: because /dev/ramfs never existed.. there's no device. |
| 03:27:36 | Argo | seriously ? |
| 03:28:03 | Zaerc | I'm just glad my /dev/hda is working ;^) |
| 03:28:40 | a7r | Argo: seriously, ramfs is like proc, it's entirely in memory.. |
| 03:29:22 | Argo | well... there's a pb then, df tell me that i have only 16Mo |
| 03:29:58 | a7r | that's of flash.. |
| 03:30:00 | a7r | you do only have 16 MB |
| 03:30:22 | Zaerc | it's not that hard to create a ramdisk by hand is it? |
| 03:30:33 | a7r | it's pretty easy.. |
| 03:30:34 | Zaerc | or should I just butt out? |
| 03:30:48 | a7r | but we don't use ramdisks on these handhelds.. |
| 03:31:59 | Argo | yep but, for instance, on 0.4 a df show me the 32Mo (16Mo of flash and 16 of ram or whatever) |
| 03:32:20 | a7r | that's because the new kernels don't show usage.. |
| 03:32:32 | a7r | ramfs is all buffer cache, so check /proc/meminfo for information. |
| 03:32:39 | Argo | oki, so there's no pb then |
| 03:32:46 | a7r | nope. |
| 03:32:52 | Argo | i spend now 3 days for nothing huhu |
| 03:32:54 | Argo | cool |
| 03:33:16 | Argo | thx a7r |
| 03:33:23 | a7r | np. |
| 03:38:24 | Zaerc | ow and I remember haveing to link xauth in /usr/X11/bin or something |
| 03:38:39 | Zaerc | to get ssh x forwarding going |
| 03:39:28 | a7r | nod. |
| 03:39:29 | Zaerc | just minor issues |
| 03:41:55 | Zaerc | I'm allmost embaresed to bother you with them |
| 03:44:24 | Zaerc | ah well. who needs ops anyways? |
| 03:58:08 | Zaerc | well gentlemen it's about 5am localtime so I guess I'm off to bed... |
| 03:58:24 | Zaerc | talk 2 ya later (I hope) |
| 04:03:31 | hexy | has anyone here played with JS Landscape? |
| 05:46:49 | coldoutside | good morning |
| 05:57:25 | aness | cold: nope |
| 06:06:56 | clasoncj | I've got two questions. 1) whats a good hyperterm equiv for linux so I can connect to my ipaq and whats the best way to move files from my linux box to my ipaq (running familiar .4) |
| 06:09:09 | DragonEagle | minicom and zmodem |
| 06:09:14 | DragonEagle | respectivly |
| 06:09:47 | clasoncj | any special settings for minicom? |
| 06:10:06 | DragonEagle | the same as for loading the bootldr in the instructions |
| 06:10:40 | clasoncj | just set it up to use ttyS1? |
| 06:11:01 | DragonEagle | com1=ttyS0, com2=ttys1 |
| 06:11:19 | clasoncj | that would explain why it didn't work :) |
| 06:11:25 | clasoncj | cap S? |
| 06:12:14 | DragonEagle | oops, the capS is nescessary, that was a typo |
| 06:12:24 | clasoncj | k |
| 06:12:38 | clasoncj | scp works pretty easily? I'm reading the man pages on it now |
| 06:14:14 | clasoncj | i think i have enough info to start playing around some more. Thanks |
| 07:10:52 | coldoutside | greeno! |
| 07:14:28 | greeno | coldoutside: evening |
| 07:21:14 | coldoutside | how goes everything? |
| 07:21:21 | coldoutside | I finally have linux up and running on the ipaq :) |
| 07:24:29 | greeno | coldoutside: things are going well, I'm hacking the ipaq as we speak |
| 07:24:37 | greeno | how far have you got? |
| 07:38:39 | coldoutside | greeno : sorry about that, on wireless laptop and moving stuff into anothe room (was, anyway) |
| 07:39:41 | coldoutside | and I'm so glad we live in a world where I can pull a can of flavorful sugary beverage out of the giant box of coldness, summon some cubes of frozen water, and enjoy them in the warmth of oil combustion. |
| 07:39:54 | coldoutside | I have a working X display w/the tasks-complete install |
| 07:39:58 | coldoutside | using iceWM |
| 07:40:54 | coldoutside | what's up with asimov tonight? |
| 07:41:01 | coldoutside | I thought they'd fixed the problem.... |
| 07:42:35 | greeno | Don't know |
| 07:42:57 | a7r | OPN is just in a tailspin. |
| 07:43:50 | coldoutside | a7r : how can I send a return to rxvt w/o having xkbd running? |
| 07:44:16 | a7r | run xstroke, and do upper right to lower left slash. |
| 07:44:26 | coldoutside | I can't run anything |
| 07:44:29 | coldoutside | no text input :\ |
| 07:44:34 | a7r | oh, at all? that sucks. |
| 07:44:45 | coldoutside | yeah it does :) |
| 07:45:05 | coldoutside | and the com port on my laptop is loopy |
| 07:45:27 | coldoutside | I can open rxvt and use the ip button to get back to the command that initializes my wireless card |
| 07:45:31 | coldoutside | but I can't hit enter! |
| 07:45:32 | coldoutside | oi oi oi |
| 07:50:01 | coldoutside | nm, got the serial port to work |
| 07:52:29 | coldoutside | how do I go about reading the battery info from /proc |
| 07:52:33 | coldoutside | I assume this is in apm? |
| 08:19:09 | coldoutside | hello again greeno |
| 08:25:39 | greeno | hey |
| 08:25:46 | greeno | kernel problems :-( |
| 08:27:41 | coldoutside | what's wrong? |
| 08:28:37 | greeno | nothing - just upgrading my kernel (laptop) and can't get iptables working again.... |
| 08:30:14 | coldoutside | well, if it makes you feel any better |
| 08:30:20 | coldoutside | the wireless card in my ipaq just gave up again |
| 08:31:30 | greeno | heh |
| 08:31:35 | coldoutside | :\ |
| 08:31:36 | greeno | be no fun if it were all easy |
| 08:31:42 | coldoutside | hahaha :) |
| 08:31:44 | coldoutside | exactly |
| 08:31:54 | coldoutside | that's the whole business of "hacking" |
| 08:32:23 | coldoutside | why does it do this though? |
| 08:32:26 | coldoutside | it works for a while... |
| 08:32:32 | coldoutside | an I jsut run a script of init. commands |
| 08:32:34 | coldoutside | wtf? |
| 08:32:56 | greeno | heh |
| 08:33:53 | coldoutside | if I leave my laptop on a constant ping |
| 08:34:11 | coldoutside | I get a reply for about 45 seconds |
| 08:34:12 | coldoutside | then nothing |
| 08:34:16 | coldoutside | ??? |
| 08:34:18 | coldoutside | so strange.... |
| 08:35:19 | coldoutside | so strange |
| 08:35:26 | coldoutside | ifconfig and iwconfig list nothing now.... |
| 08:37:51 | greeno_ | What sleeve you got? |
| 08:38:11 | coldoutside | single |
| 08:38:24 | coldoutside | are you #Familiar with the network startup scripts? |
| 08:38:42 | greeno_ | cause that is the same problem I'm having with mine |
| 08:39:05 | coldoutside | I think it's getting around to initializing the card late |
| 08:40:14 | greeno_ | put its init'ing the card, it starts working, then is stops? |
| 08:40:23 | coldoutside | if I do a ./pcmcia restart it doesn't come back up |
| 08:40:29 | coldoutside | well, I added a script to configure the card |
| 08:40:31 | greeno_ | yep |
| 08:40:33 | greeno_ | same thing |
| 08:40:36 | coldoutside | instead of putting the stuff in the right places..... |
| 08:40:53 | coldoutside | after it stops working, and you run your script again, does it resume working? |
| 08:41:04 | greeno_ | nope |
| 08:41:13 | greeno_ | you? |
| 08:43:24 | coldoutside | yeah |
| 08:43:25 | coldoutside | it does |
| 08:43:54 | greeno_ | must be a different problem then.... |
| 08:51:28 | coldoutside | hah! |
| 08:51:48 | coldoutside | if I run my script from within networking, life is good |
| 08:51:57 | coldoutside | check to see if PCMCIA is updating for whatever reason |
| 08:52:02 | coldoutside | that's what was causing my problem |
| 08:52:22 | coldoutside | it basically turned the card off and on, resetting my iwconfig/ifconfig stuff |
| 09:03:41 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 06:34:33) |
| 09:06:34 | coldoutside | hey Dragoneagle |
| 09:06:43 | DragonEagle | hey hye |
| 09:06:50 | coldoutside | btw- my name is Peter |
| 09:07:00 | DragonEagle | == allen |
| 09:07:02 | coldoutside | if I hadn't mentioned that already |
| 09:07:16 | coldoutside | I almost have this thing alive and happily doing its thing :) |
| 09:07:27 | DragonEagle | my batt is about to die |
| 09:07:31 | coldoutside | oi |
| 09:07:43 | coldoutside | ipaq or laptop? |
| 09:07:57 | DragonEagle | just got it back on the charger, can't figure out why my ipaq is only getting an hours worth of battery life |
| 09:10:00 | coldoutside | running the batt. all the way down kills it |
| 09:10:06 | coldoutside | I don't know if that would reduce it to an hour though |
| 09:11:49 | DragonEagle | that's happened a cpl of times when I switched cradles and forgot to move the ac |
| 09:12:12 | coldoutside | I had to send mine back once for that |
| 09:12:24 | coldoutside | i bought it used and the batt. was dead... the guy apparently drained it before shipping |
| 09:12:32 | coldoutside | this would be why they have the on/off switch :) |
| 09:12:46 | coldoutside | how well does Linux manage shutting it down before murdering the batter? |
| 09:12:53 | coldoutside | I just totally drained my sleeve :\ |
| 09:13:03 | DragonEagle | I've never seen it happen and I had it down to 12 min |
| 09:14:33 | coldoutside | hrmm |
| 09:14:38 | coldoutside | is that a good or a bad thing? |
| 09:14:40 | coldoutside | :) |
| 09:14:54 | coldoutside | you've never seen it shut the ipaq down, or you've never seen it drain the battery fully? |
| 09:15:11 | DragonEagle | I've never seen it shut down |
| 09:15:20 | coldoutside | hmm |
| 09:15:36 | coldoutside | how can you find the specific battery level of the sleeve? |
| 09:15:50 | DragonEagle | I don't think you can...yet |
| 09:15:51 | coldoutside | I did a cat on /proc/apm and only got one % - I'm assumign that's the main power |
| 09:15:55 | coldoutside | ah |
| 09:16:03 | coldoutside | apologizes for his crappy typing |
| 09:16:09 | coldoutside | where is passwd? |
| 09:16:17 | DragonEagle | on your desktop |
| 09:16:28 | coldoutside | my desktop? |
| 09:16:41 | DragonEagle | passwd doesn't live on the ipaq |
| 09:17:20 | coldoutside | too big? |
| 09:17:49 | DragonEagle | don't know, most ppl just hash a password on their desktop and copy it in |
| 09:18:29 | coldoutside | it's 22k as far as my RH6.1/i386 distro is concerned |
| 09:18:35 | coldoutside | yeah, I guess that makes sense |
| 09:18:38 | coldoutside | why waste the space |
| 09:19:10 | coldoutside | how can i easily generate a hash? |
| 09:19:38 | DragonEagle | change your password on your desktop then copy it from /etc/shadow |
| 09:20:17 | coldoutside | there's no easy way to have it spit one out for me? |
| 09:20:31 | DragonEagle | ok, I haven't seen this work, but |
| 09:20:36 | DragonEagle | ibot passwd |
| 09:20:42 | | DragonEagle: sorry... |
| 09:20:42 | DragonEagle | ibot1 passwd |
| 09:20:48 | greeno | coldoutside: I have a perl script that does it |
| 09:22:20 | coldoutside | cool |
| 09:22:37 | DragonEagle | greeno: can you put that on the wiki? |
| 09:23:32 | greeno | Yeah - I'll have to tidy it up a bit - its designed for a radius db password change webpage - I'll hack it into a oneliner |
| 09:23:45 | DragonEagle | cool |
| 09:24:15 | greeno | I've not used wiki before - do I need an account or anything |
| 09:24:41 | DragonEagle | nope |
| 09:25:52 | coldoutside | you know, I was wondering about that |
| 09:26:08 | coldoutside | isn't anyone afraid that someone will do something stupid? |
| 09:26:15 | coldoutside | it's the same way on the skiff cluster, right? |
| 09:27:19 | DragonEagle | right, you just need to have your directory be your e-mail address |
| 09:27:25 | greeno | rebooting - bbs |
| 09:28:20 | coldoutside | I mean, everyone has access to everyone else's files on the skiff cluster, right? |
| 09:28:45 | coldoutside | couldn't someone go in and put a bit of damaging code in, say, of someone random pisses someone else random off for no good reason? |
| 09:28:56 | coldoutside | not that I'm wishing for that... |
| 09:29:14 | DragonEagle | coldoutside: this entire community is based on a certain amount of trust |
| 09:29:48 | coldoutside | well, yeah... but I found the skiff cluster a *long* time ago, and incredibly randomly |
| 09:30:16 | coldoutside | which would make me assume that someone with less than mediocre morals could find it themselves and make some negative use of their access |
| 09:30:18 | coldoutside | and for no good reason |
| 09:30:25 | coldoutside | I've known plenty of people like that in my lifetime |
| 09:30:35 | coldoutside | I *like* the idea of this community's trust :) |
| 09:30:43 | coldoutside | it's rather refreshing, to be honest |
| 09:31:00 | coldoutside | I guess that's just the price you accept to pay if it comes down to it |
| 09:31:42 | DragonEagle | you know, if push comes to shove, I use my ipaq for building |
| 09:33:43 | coldoutside | is lost in the wonders of icewm |
| 09:34:58 | coldoutside | do you / have you used ramdisk for storage? |
| 09:35:08 | DragonEagle | quite ofte |
| 09:35:09 | DragonEagle | n |
| 09:35:17 | coldoutside | how do I go about setting that up? |
| 09:35:30 | coldoutside | I notice the ramdisk /mnt/ramdisk in /etc/fstab |
| 09:35:34 | DragonEagle | 1. don't do it on your ipaq |
| 09:35:57 | DragonEagle | 2. mke2fs /dev/ram0; mount /dev/ram0 /mnt |
| 09:36:18 | coldoutside | don't do it on the ipaq? |
| 09:36:45 | DragonEagle | there is already one mounted on your ipaq...type mount |
| 09:37:05 | coldoutside | why doesn't it appear in df? |
| 09:37:19 | DragonEagle | because ramfs doesn't report accounting info |
| 09:38:15 | coldoutside | how large is it? |
| 09:38:27 | DragonEagle | 1/2 your available ram |
| 09:39:07 | coldoutside | can it be kept persistent? |
| 09:39:22 | DragonEagle | not really, why would you want to? |
| 09:39:28 | coldoutside | file storage |
| 09:39:38 | xwred1 | how *would* you do that? |
| 09:39:39 | DragonEagle | that's what your flash is for |
| 09:39:45 | coldoutside | CE does it |
| 09:39:47 | xwred1 | power off, and the data goes poof |
| 09:39:52 | xwred1 | CE suspends |
| 09:39:59 | xwred1 | if you power the pda off, you lose the data too |
| 09:40:01 | coldoutside | even when you do a reset? |
| 09:40:04 | xwred1 | its happened to me a few times |
| 09:40:09 | xwred1 | not a reset |
| 09:40:15 | xwred1 | because the ram doesn't lose electricity |
| 09:40:23 | xwred1 | but if you reset the wrong way, you will lose it |
| 09:40:23 | coldoutside | yeah |
| 09:40:25 | xwred1 | i did that once |
| 09:40:55 | coldoutside | but in rebooting/etc of linux, the ram doesn't lose power |
| 09:41:09 | xwred1 | no, but I guess the s/w wipes it anyways |
| 09:41:13 | xwred1 | or maybe not |
| 09:41:18 | xwred1 | but I'm guessing that it does |
| 09:41:38 | coldoutside | how could I keep the ramdrv persistant through all but a power cycle? I guess it's not possible at the moment |
| 09:41:38 | DragonEagle | when it reboots, it unmounts the ramfs, when it remounts, it's a clean slate |
| 09:41:51 | xwred1 | put support in the kernel for it? |
| 09:41:51 | coldoutside | I just created a file and rebooted... yeah, that's what it does |
| 09:42:07 | xwred1 | maybe in the ramfs driver? |
| 09:42:28 | DragonEagle | when you shut down, tar the ramfs into the flash, when you power up, untar the file |
| 09:43:07 | coldoutside | space is the main issue though, living in 16mb |
| 09:43:35 | coldoutside | maybe I'll just hijack my girlfriend's 3670 :D |
| 09:43:40 | xwred1 | bah |
| 09:43:47 | DragonEagle | remember, your not really living in 16mb, jffs2 is a compresed filesystem |
| 09:43:47 | coldoutside | I only have 1096k left : |
| 09:43:48 | xwred1 | just get a microdrive or CF card or something |
| 09:43:50 | xwred1 | leave the ram for the apps |
| 09:44:08 | coldoutside | but I want the bloody thing to work without a sleeve! |
| 09:44:39 | xwred1 | then get a 3800 |
| 09:44:44 | xwred1 | buy a sd card |
| 09:44:48 | xwred1 | write a driver for it |
| 09:44:50 | xwred1 | and use that |
| 09:44:53 | coldoutside | I mean, the idea of having a 5gig pcmcia drive and a wireless card w/the dual sleeve buy would be cool... but what's the point? it's way too big |
| 09:45:10 | coldoutside | that requires money... and I think the 3800's are hatefully ugly :\ |
| 09:45:12 | xwred1 | sleeves make it not a pda anymore |
| 09:45:21 | coldoutside | EXactly. |
| 09:45:27 | xwred1 | I think the 3800s look better than the others |
| 09:45:34 | xwred1 | I don't like the chrome shell in any case |
| 09:45:34 | coldoutside | really? |
| 09:45:39 | xwred1 | it gathers too many fingerprints |
| 09:45:56 | xwred1 | really. |
| 09:46:09 | coldoutside | I think it at least picked up it's own sense of style... most of the other PDA's look the same |
| 09:46:14 | coldoutside | generic grey/black-ish case |
| 09:46:18 | coldoutside | clunky looking |
| 09:46:23 | coldoutside | even the jornada |
| 09:46:26 | xwred1 | yea |
| 09:46:39 | xwred1 | I just would like it if they used something that didn't gather fingerprints |
| 09:46:41 | xwred1 | the silver is fine |
| 09:46:43 | xwred1 | the fingerprints suck |
| 09:46:52 | coldoutside | yeah :\ I hear you there |
| 09:46:57 | xwred1 | besides |
| 09:46:57 | coldoutside | get a Vaja case :D |
| 09:47:08 | xwred1 | when I put Linux on it, I'm wanting to use it as more than a pda |
| 09:47:21 | xwred1 | one nice thing is that the 3800 comes with a screen cover flap thingy |
| 09:47:41 | coldoutside | applauds the informative descriptoin |
| 09:48:02 | coldoutside | so maybe I'll eventually convert :) |
| 09:48:26 | coldoutside | what are the options as far as keyboards go? |
| 09:48:44 | coldoutside | I remember seeing an alternative to the stowaway somewhere... but can't for the life of me remember where |
| 09:48:53 | coldoutside | aside from the go whatever it is |
| 09:49:34 | xwred1 | targus makes one |
| 09:49:42 | xwred1 | a foldup keyboard that works over the serial port |
| 09:50:03 | coldoutside | doesn't that pretty much limit you to using it in portrait though? |
| 09:51:26 | xwred1 | yea |
| 09:51:33 | xwred1 | but CE doesn't let you change the rotation |
| 09:51:41 | xwred1 | I don't think they were thinking of Linux when they made the thing |
| 09:52:44 | coldoutside | yeah, as such there's no esc key either... |
| 09:52:46 | coldoutside | which sucks |
| 09:53:04 | coldoutside | but that can always be mapped |
| 09:53:22 | xwred1 | the virtual keyboard has esc |
| 09:53:58 | coldoutside | but the whole point is to get away from that bloody thing :) |
| 09:54:01 | xwred1 | I bet you could hax0r the keyboard to use a serial cable to interface with the ipaq, so then you could change orientations |
| 09:54:14 | coldoutside | I was thinking about that ;) |
| 09:55:54 | villager | hi |
| 09:55:59 | coldoutside | good morning |
| 09:56:14 | coldoutside | ...which reminds me, I should probably sleep at some point here... |
| 09:56:32 | villager | I think something is wrong with familiar v0.5's bootloader installation... |
| 09:56:59 | villager | it says to run "partition reset", but then it only defines bootldr and root, but not params |
| 09:58:51 | coldoutside | there is no more params partition |
| 09:58:51 | xwred1 | lame |
| 09:58:51 | xwred1 | don't know |
| 09:58:52 | coldoutside | dragoneagle : how do I change iceWM to portrait mode? |
| 09:58:52 | villager | hm, so the instructions are just outdated, then... should I just ignore the params save step too, then? |
| 09:58:52 | DragonEagle | coldoutside: you just switch to protraite and can't figure out why your panel thingy is in the middle of your screen hun? |
| 10:00:13 | coldoutside | no- I haven't figured out how to switch to portrait :\ |
| 10:00:50 | DragonEagle | you have gtk-menu installed? |
| 10:00:59 | coldoutside | gtk-menu? |
| 10:01:03 | coldoutside | not sure |
| 10:01:19 | DragonEagle | I hope so, otherwise you really don't have any menus |
| 10:01:25 | a7r | villager: hrm? |
| 10:02:35 | villager | a7r: hm? the familiar v0.5 bootldr installation instructions say that partition reset should define a param partition, which it doesn't... should I just ignore any references to params in the install instructions, then? |
| 10:02:48 | coldoutside | no, gtk0menu exists |
| 10:03:04 | DragonEagle | ipkg install gtk-menu |
| 10:03:43 | coldoutside | it's there |
| 10:03:52 | coldoutside | but it's apparently not integrated with ice |
| 10:03:59 | coldoutside | gtk-menu, that is |
| 10:04:06 | DragonEagle | but---but I'm using it |
| 10:04:23 | DragonEagle | is going to make an ipkg for python-xlib on friday |
| 10:04:28 | coldoutside | as the start menu in ice? |
| 10:04:39 | DragonEagle | ice has a start menu? |
| 10:04:44 | coldoutside | sure |
| 10:04:47 | coldoutside | my install of it, anyway |
| 10:06:04 | DragonEagle | anyways, to see the commands, look at http://dragons.espsw.net/xrandr |
| 10:06:19 | DragonEagle | and I really need to go to bed |
| 10:06:37 | DragonEagle | is away: night |
| 10:06:44 | coldoutside | thanks for the help |
| 10:06:49 | coldoutside | talk to you tomorrow |
| 10:06:50 | coldoutside | or today |
| 10:06:55 | DragonEagle | is away: happy Thanksgiving everyone |
| 10:06:57 | DragonEagle | np |
| 10:06:58 | coldoutside | happy thanksgiving all! I'm off to bed too |
| 10:07:04 | coldoutside | it's 5am here! :O |
| 10:23:40 | a7r | villager: thanks for the note.. I'll fix the reference to the params partition. |
| 10:27:20 | a7r | okay, updated. |
| 11:45:32 | AcidCrash | hi |
| 12:22:17 | villager | hm... are here any modules with ext3 support or something? |
| 12:45:37 | WolfSoul | whatfor ? |
| 13:10:11 | villager | I want to store files on a microdrive, and ext3 would be nice for that |
| 14:28:58 | WolfSoul | villager: ext3 isn't very stable afaik, and the microdrives nowadays aren't large enough imho so plain ext2 should be nuff, and it keeps the kernel+modules smal ;) |
| 15:40:54 | villager | I just don't like the idea of having to fsck when powering on, losing stuff when the battery goes out, etc... |
| 15:48:04 | WolfSoul | can't take that long |
| 15:50:20 | WolfSoul | and ext3 still can cause locking and fs/full errors |
| 21:04:07 | GuildII | hello |
| 21:04:18 | GuildII | ne1 alive ? |
| 21:07:06 | GuildII | dont be shy |
| 22:22:47 | Orcawolf | hello |
| 22:22:57 | Orcawolf | anyone here? |
| 22:24:04 | Orcawolf | i need some help |
| 22:24:59 | Orcawolf | hello |
| 22:25:37 | Ng | evenin' folks :) |
| 22:26:31 | Orcawolf | hello |
| 22:26:40 | Orcawolf | am i invisible or is just everyone away? |
| 22:47:37 | DragonEagle | is away: happy Thanksgiving, everybody! |
| 22:47:55 | DragonEagle | is away: getting ready for turkey |