| 02:05:28 | EGg0 | is away: Running my Dell diagnostics programs to troubleshoot this serial port failure. |
| 02:07:27 | sgodsell | is away: I am rebooting my PC |
| 03:43:56 | EGg0 | is away: Going to bed. |
| 04:01:03 | LuftHans | moin, moin |
| 04:55:02 | sgodsell | is away: I have to go |
| 05:06:45 | DragonEagle | is away: just away |
| 06:57:04 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 01:50:18) |
| 07:36:46 | greeno | is away: I'm busy |
| 07:36:49 | greeno | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 07:37:25 | LuftHans | 2 seconds downtime, not bad :) |
| 07:37:43 | DragonEagle | is away: night |
| 07:37:51 | greeno | Forgot I hadn't set my away! ;-) |
| 08:23:52 | mirov | seen big_bird |
| 08:24:01 | | big_bird was last seen on #familiar 13 hours, 20 minutes and 48 seconds ago, saying: mirov is gay [Sun Nov 25 19:03:13 2001] |
| 08:24:01 | mirov | ibot seen big_bird |
| 08:26:34 | | mirov: i haven't a clue |
| 08:26:34 | mirov | ibot whois big_bird |
| 08:27:15 | coldoutside | mirov : interesting last words |
| 08:27:45 | mirov | I'm trying to figure out why... (not true by the way) |
| 08:28:03 | devross | hello everyone. |
| 08:28:16 | greeno | devross: hey |
| 08:28:25 | devross | hey. |
| 08:29:25 | devross | got a question for you: i just got a ipaq 3670 with a usb cradle and i was wondering if a usb to serial adapter would work as far as installing linux. |
| 08:29:29 | devross | any ideas? |
| 08:30:00 | greeno | I had trouble finding one |
| 08:30:14 | greeno | was much easier (and cheaper) to get an ipaq serial cable |
| 08:30:31 | LuftHans | devross: I've heard locally that doesn't work, but according to the specs it should :) |
| 08:30:46 | mirov | Or convert/add a serial port |
| 08:31:03 | greeno | the serial cable is only about $25 AUD (10-15 US) and is pretty useful |
| 08:31:40 | devross | huh. |
| 08:31:46 | devross | thanks guys. |
| 08:32:20 | mirov | I have both a USB/Serial cradle and a serial cable. The cradle is nice 'cause it props the ipaq up for extended dev work. |
| 08:32:43 | devross | i just ordered a usb-serial adapter...man i hope it works. |
| 08:33:07 | LuftHans | devross: if I ever find mine again I'll be finding out :) |
| 08:33:21 | devross | heheh, cool. |
| 08:33:28 | LuftHans | has a USB cradle and a serial frankenstein cable |
| 08:34:20 | mirov | devross: Do you realize that the USB cradles can be modified to support serial also ? |
| 08:34:42 | devross | yeah. i looked at the howto for it and got scared though. |
| 08:34:45 | greeno | mirov: yeah - but that screws up your warrenty |
| 08:34:55 | greeno | serial cable == nice solution (and cheap) |
| 08:35:26 | mirov | All true, just depends on how patient you are (ie: can you wait).... |
| 08:35:28 | devross | when he mentioned removing the chip from the cradle...i just knew i'd screw it up if i tried. |
| 08:35:41 | mirov | There's no chip |
| 08:36:49 | devross | really? |
| 08:36:52 | devross | huh. |
| 08:37:27 | mirov | Yup, just a small PC board with the connector/USB cable on it. Just solder 3 wires (GND, TXD, RXD) for your serial connection |
| 08:38:08 | devross | wow. |
| 08:38:59 | devross | yep, you're totally right. |
| 08:39:15 | devross | just looked at the howto. |
| 08:47:58 | coldoutside | devross : I almost did the operation on my USB cradle, but found out that Serial cradles are only ~30 - at the local BestBuy - so I figured it wasn't worth risking and/or tearing apart a perfectly good db9 cable :D |
| 08:48:53 | coldoutside | devross : mainly, I didn't have a small allen wrench handy and *really* wanted to install Familiar ;) |
| 08:49:09 | devross | right on! that's good to hear. i'll have to call around and find a bestbuy that has one. |
| 08:49:20 | greeno | plus the serial cable comes in useful |
| 08:49:43 | devross | i've had my ipaq for like 4 days and i'm starting to get frusterated. |
| 08:49:55 | greeno | devross: with what? |
| 08:50:11 | devross | running windoze. |
| 08:50:31 | LuftHans | devross: if you're in the .us look at other compustores as well. best buy had the least amount of stuff in all the stores I looked at while trying to find a dual-pcmcia sleeve |
| 08:51:01 | devross | cool. |
| 08:51:13 | devross | is there linux support for wireless networking? |
| 08:51:18 | greeno | devross: yeah |
| 08:51:35 | greeno | though be careful with dual sleeve |
| 08:51:43 | greeno | its the bane of my existance at the moment |
| 08:51:53 | devross | how so/ |
| 08:51:54 | devross | ? |
| 08:52:54 | coldoutside | greeno : still haven't gotten it to work? |
| 08:53:11 | coldoutside | greeno : I'll trade you a new Enterasys for you Cisco if it'll solve the problem |
| 08:53:15 | greeno | coldoutside: same problem with the network card |
| 08:53:21 | greeno | works for about 2 mins, then dies |
| 08:53:31 | greeno | :-) |
| 08:53:32 | LuftHans | greeno: what's up with yours? Mine is working, though I haven't been doing that much with it |
| 08:54:00 | LuftHans | greeno: is that either slot? wireless card only? |
| 08:54:03 | greeno | LuftHans: dual sleeve with a dlink dfe-650 nic. Nic comes up and works fine for about 2 mins, then stops |
| 08:54:15 | greeno | LuftHans: not wireless |
| 08:54:23 | greeno | error message of : |
| 08:54:32 | LuftHans | I'm just using a cf->pcmcia adapter with a cf ethernet card in it right now |
| 08:54:37 | coldoutside | greeno : ohhhhhh... have you tried any other cards in the thing? is that the only one you've got? |
| 08:54:54 | greeno | eth0: timeout waiting for Tx RDC. |
| 08:54:54 | greeno | eth0: pcnet_reset_8390() did not complete. |
| 08:54:54 | greeno | Hw. address read/write mismap 1 |
| 08:54:54 | greeno | Hw. address read/write mismap 2 |
| 08:55:02 | greeno | coldoutside: its the only card I have for it :-( |
| 08:55:13 | greeno | I don't want to get another card only to find the same problem |
| 08:55:18 | greeno | the dlink is SUPPOSED to work |
| 08:55:25 | greeno | people are using it ok |
| 08:55:43 | coldoutside | greeno : you said you used it in a single sleeve with no problems? do you have the same problem in either slot of your dual sleeve? |
| 08:56:12 | greeno | coldoutside: I didn't use it with the single sleeve, I was told of someone that had though |
| 08:56:16 | coldoutside | (OT) anyone gotten Linux running on a Jornada HPC? Specifically, a 620lx? |
| 08:56:45 | coldoutside | hmm. I'm just guessing, but it might be your sleeve |
| 08:56:59 | coldoutside | what version are you running? |
| 08:57:11 | coldoutside | try v0.4 and see if you get the same problem |
| 08:57:14 | greeno | v5 (obviously to get the dual sleeve working) |
| 08:57:19 | greeno | and intimate |
| 08:57:32 | LuftHans | I'm using familiar |
| 08:57:39 | coldoutside | ahhh... oi. I understand <-- did not know that dual sleeve was new functionality :) |
| 08:57:50 | LuftHans | intimate requires familiar, right? |
| 08:58:05 | greeno | coldoutside: I could use v4 - but I'd have to upgrade the kernel - and thats where all the drivers are! |
| 08:58:09 | greeno | LuftHans: yeah |
| 08:58:26 | LuftHans | greeno: does the card/sleeve work with just familiar? |
| 08:58:29 | coldoutside | greeno : yup |
| 08:58:32 | greeno | same problem |
| 08:58:49 | coldoutside | greeno : do you know anyone that you could steal another PCMCIA card for a day or two to test with? |
| 08:59:11 | coldoutside | greeno : I'd worry about the sleeve first, before beating a hole in the wall over the card- especially if it's known working elsewhere |
| 08:59:30 | greeno | not that is compatible with linux on the ipaq :-( |
| 08:59:46 | greeno | coldoutside: its catch 22 though - its the card and the sleeve combined by the look of it |
| 09:00:56 | coldoutside | you know, the pcmcia drivers may just be re-initializing it with incorrect drivers |
| 09:01:05 | coldoutside | I had the same thing (sort of) happening with my wlan card |
| 09:01:13 | LuftHans | greeno: any LUGs in your neighborhood? Try a meeting :) |
| 09:01:22 | coldoutside | the card would come up fine with my script, but pcmcia would re-initialize it and screw life up |
| 09:01:29 | greeno | LuftHans: I'm on the ctte of the Sydney LUG :-) |
| 09:01:54 | greeno | coldoutside: but you'd expect the card not to work at all then.... |
| 09:02:13 | LuftHans | greeno: call an emergency meeting requiring everyone to bring various PCMCIA cards ;-) |
| 09:02:47 | greeno | Its on this friday - I'm way ahaed of you! |
| 09:02:48 | greeno | ;-) |
| 09:03:04 | coldoutside | greeno : well, my assumption would be > a) system boots up w/ driver A, for whatever reason, and works happily. b) pcmcia gets around to checking drivers and resets card do driver B, which does not work |
| 09:03:24 | greeno | possible |
| 09:03:27 | greeno | I'll take a look |
| 09:04:17 | greeno | LuftHans: what CF NIC you using? |
| 09:04:27 | coldoutside | or you could play with some manual removing of the module and re-insert modules until it does something :D |
| 09:04:41 | coldoutside | the "shoot blindly into the dark until you see blinkylights" method ;) |
| 09:04:53 | greeno | coldoutside: which is where I am at this moment! |
| 09:04:53 | greeno | ;-) |
| 09:05:48 | coldoutside | shit! jsut dropped a knife on my foot blade down :( |
| 09:05:54 | greeno | OW |
| 09:06:25 | coldoutside | ow is right... man did that suck |
| 09:06:28 | LuftHans | coldoutside: stop the bleeding, then join #911 :) |
| 09:06:58 | greeno | LuftHans: hahaha |
| 09:07:17 | greeno | bugger - forgot my laptop charger and I'm down to 58 mins of battery |
| 09:07:20 | coldoutside | is glad foot doesn't feel numb |
| 09:08:12 | LuftHans | greeno: www.socketcom.com, it says lp-e on it |
| 09:08:27 | LuftHans | greeno: it worked both in pcmcia and cf sleeves |
| 09:08:50 | coldoutside | wohoo! socket :) I had one of those a while ago |
| 09:08:51 | greeno | thx |
| 09:09:43 | LuftHans | I was looking at other stuff from socket, but got tired of all the damned macromedia popups. |
| 09:10:56 | greeno | crossover is your friend... |
| 09:11:50 | coldoutside | does anyone have experience with the CF 802.11b world? |
| 09:12:28 | coldoutside | I'm thinking about picking up a Sharp Zaurus, a CF wlan, and a decent sized SD card |
| 09:15:09 | coldoutside | and, as I have very little money, I'm thinking about getting rid of my iPaq 3650 + single pcmcia sleeve + Enterasys 802.11b. Any offers? |
| 09:15:39 | greeno | not I.... |
| 09:21:19 | coldoutside | oh, come on... you could make an iPaq Beowulf cluster :D I'll throw in another wlan card ;) |
| 09:21:37 | greeno | heh |
| 09:21:41 | greeno | and a wlan station? |
| 09:22:12 | coldoutside | nope, don't even have one of those guys for myself :\ |
| 09:23:33 | coldoutside | has anyone here had a chance to play with the Zaurus? |
| 09:28:58 | LuftHans | greeno: you've got a dual-sleeve, use that ipaq to nat the rest of the cluster with all talking via an ad hoc wireless network, no wlan station required :) |
| 09:29:18 | LuftHans | granted, you'd need to get the current card working :) |
| 09:30:17 | greeno | LuftHans: stop tempting me! |
| 09:31:20 | greeno | Laptop about to die = I'm outta here guys |
| 09:31:31 | LuftHans | I'm planning on going that way, though not necessarily with the ipaq |
| 09:31:34 | LuftHans | ciao greeno |
| 09:31:40 | greeno | cya |
| 09:33:03 | coldoutside | LuftHans : that's what I do here |
| 09:33:15 | coldoutside | LuftHans : although I haven't gotten my pci pcmcia adapter yet... |
| 09:33:51 | coldoutside | LuftHans : currently using Laptop to provide connectivity over adhoc :) I've done several Familiar + etc. installs using it. 802.11b has me impressed so far... |
| 09:34:18 | LuftHans | I've got to get a wireless hub/switch this week, though maybe just a pci pcmcia adapter |
| 09:49:01 | LuftHans | is going to bed 2 hours ago in an attempt to make it to work before lunch tomorrow... |
| 11:44:43 | mcgizzard | anyone up? |
| 13:20:25 | bipolar_ | is away: Not at the keyboard |
| 15:18:38 | pattieja | is away: meeting |
| 15:32:03 | EGg0_in|out | is back (gone 11:47:55) |
| 15:53:34 | sjohnson | is away: meeting |
| 16:20:14 | EGg0_in|out | is away: school |
| 17:37:47 | pattieja | is away: I'm busy |
| 17:38:07 | pattieja | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 18:38:51 | pattieja | is away: lunch |
| 19:21:11 | General_L | ppl |
| 19:21:13 | General_L | if the xmodem download just hangs what should I do?= |
| 19:28:40 | pattieja | is back (gone 00:49:50) |
| 19:49:56 | hexy | can i reinstall pocketpc after installing linux? |
| 19:50:33 | a7r | yes. |
| 19:50:55 | hexy | fun |
| 19:51:46 | hexy | can i have both installed at the same time? |
| 20:35:50 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 12:58:06) |
| 20:44:04 | DragonEagle | is away: appointment |
| 21:28:47 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 00:44:42) |
| 21:29:52 | index | CAnanyone help me with a little irda problem? I've problems loading sa1100_ir, it has unresolved symbols. (clr_h3600_egpio/set_h3600_egpio). |
| 21:30:06 | index | (depmod -a says this too) |
| 21:55:28 | index | nobody here? |
| 21:56:33 | index | hi |
| 22:00:11 | coldoutside | hello. |
| 22:00:15 | coldoutside | what are you up to? |
| 22:01:11 | index | hi |
| 22:01:20 | index | CAnanyone help me with a little irda problem? I've problems loading sa1100_ir, it has unresolved symbols. (clr_h3600_egpio/set_h3600_egpio). |
| 22:01:24 | index | (depmod -a says this too) |
| 22:02:14 | coldoutside | index : I don't know what to tell you, sorry. |
| 22:02:58 | greeno | index: coldoutside: morning |
| 22:03:15 | coldoutside | greeno : good day! |
| 22:03:25 | greeno | coldoutside: so far, yourself? |
| 22:03:27 | coldoutside | greeno : how do you do on such a fine November day? |
| 22:03:45 | coldoutside | greeno : my foot hurts like all "get out" (whatever that means). otherwise, I'm doing splendid. |
| 22:04:14 | greeno | well, stabbing yourself in the foot will do that |
| 22:04:26 | coldoutside | yes, yes it will. |
| 22:04:36 | coldoutside | as I've so enjoyably discovered. |
| 22:04:49 | coldoutside | so I'm agonizing over whether or not to pick up this HP 620lx |
| 22:04:59 | greeno | heh |
| 22:15:16 | index | anyone irda working in 0.5? |
| 22:15:28 | a7r | haven't tried it yet.. |
| 22:15:47 | index | a7r: sa1100_ir.o fails to load... |
| 22:16:16 | index | a7r: clr_h3600_egpio/set_h3600_egpio are unresolved symbols... |
| 22:16:49 | index | a7r: can you try? irda-common and the irda-modules ipkg's should be the only thing you need... |
| 22:46:25 | a7r | index: I'll look at it tonight.. if it's busted, it'll probably have to wait until v0.5.1 |
| 23:26:23 | sgodsell | is away: I have to go |
| 23:39:36 | atv | anyone know what i use to transfer files between notebook and ipaq ? something like rz on ipaq but what proto on notebook ? |
| 23:39:38 | atv | anyone ? |
| 23:41:06 | sjohnson | zmodem |
| 23:41:51 | atv | hmm that's what i thought |
| 23:42:05 | atv | do i need to start something on the ipaq ?> |
| 23:42:33 | sjohnson | No just start zmodem upload from desktop |
| 23:48:35 | atv | hmm |
| 23:48:47 | atv | trying to start Xvnc but it exits babbling about font errors |
| 23:48:53 | atv | it doesnt have fixed i think |