| 00:14:21 | greeno | is away: out |
| 00:33:36 | DragonEagle | is away: dinner time |
| 01:11:37 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 00:38:00) |
| 01:11:55 | DragonEagle | is away: just away |
| 03:19:56 | Elu | With familiar 0.5, what variables need to be defined in the bootldr? I'm installing onto a new system and don't notice the various configs noted in the install docs these days. |
| 05:12:59 | sven | I'm currently downloading Fam .5 bootstrap, is there anyway to check the progress? |
| 05:15:18 | sven | anybody home? |
| 05:15:40 | greeno | is back (gone 05:01:18) |
| 05:15:55 | sven | greeno: can you hep me? |
| 05:16:12 | greeno | sven: depends - whats the problem.... |
| 05:16:16 | sven | I'm currently downloading Fam .5 bootstrap, is there anyway to check the progress? |
| 05:18:04 | greeno | in what way - downloading it from/to where |
| 05:19:54 | greeno | sven: ???? |
| 05:20:16 | bipolar_ | greeno: he's being helped in #ipaq... |
| 05:20:23 | sven | sorry |
| 05:20:25 | greeno | bipolar_: ah - ok |
| 05:20:31 | greeno | I'll shut up then |
| 05:50:09 | greeno | is away: eating |
| 14:14:26 | Yokiyoki | hi |
| 14:14:46 | Yokiyoki | I'm having a bit of trouble installing familiar |
| 14:14:52 | Yokiyoki | Anyone willing to help? |
| 14:15:25 | Yokiyoki | Noone? |
| 14:15:40 | Yokiyoki | Hm |
| 14:16:20 | Yokiyoki | I'll try the mailing list then |
| 14:16:28 | Yokiyoki | bye |
| 15:34:38 | bipolar_ | is away: i'll bbl |
| 17:01:52 | Ears | Hi. I'm looking for some help with BootBlaster; I think it may have crashed during programming, and I'm trying to figure out how to recover. |
| 20:33:57 | wudoo | hello |
| 21:34:07 | mr_clean__ | has anyone v0.5 running on a h31xx? |
| 21:53:30 | bipolar_away | is back (gone 06:18:51) |
| 22:00:22 | bipolar | is away: I'll be back later |
| 22:02:45 | ethan | can i get help getting familiar to run on this channel? |
| 22:03:12 | grib | if you ask easy questions ;) |
| 22:03:50 | ethan | Hmmm... I'm pretty slow at this, so it'll probably be easy enough |
| 22:04:24 | grib | how far have you got so far? |
| 22:04:57 | ethan | I have installed familiar 0.5, I ipkg updated, and have install task-complete |
| 22:05:01 | ethan | i think |
| 22:05:36 | ethan | i have x running, but there's no menus, controls, consoles, etc. |
| 22:06:09 | ethan | just a little box which shows "abc" when I put the cursor over it |
| 22:06:32 | ethan | I think there may be some font errors as well... |
| 22:09:21 | ethan | do you need more info? |
| 22:10:23 | DaveH | The box with the abc(thats xstroke by the way) dose it have handle ie tittle bar etc ? |
| 22:12:00 | ethan | lemme see... |
| 22:12:38 | DaveH | ethan:been a while since I installed mine and Im a newbe to familiar myself but will see if i can help |
| 22:12:51 | ethan | No, no title bar, just an abc |
| 22:13:29 | DaveH | Ok sounds like you have no windows manager installed.. have you network support ? |
| 22:13:44 | ethan | yah |
| 22:14:04 | ethan | ps ax has Xipaq and gtk-menu running |
| 22:14:11 | DaveH | Ik the best approch is prolly to ipkg install task-x |
| 22:14:37 | ethan | OK. Back in a jiff. |
| 22:14:39 | DaveH | that should get the windows managers you have a choice of ion or blackbox .. and the gtkmenu stuff |
| 22:15:06 | ethan | should I ipkg blackbox as well? And do I need to restart it? |
| 22:16:04 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 03:06:46) |
| 22:16:55 | DaveH | all task-x is as far as I can tell is an empty package with loads of dependencys IE it pulls most of the other packages with it .. Im not sure if blackbox is included .. but you can get it if you need it ... ION should definatly be included most people seem to prefer that ... use bb myself |
| 22:17:21 | DaveH | yes with the restart.. or at least it is easyer to |
| 22:17:30 | ethan | kay.. I got that stuff. I'll restart now |
| 22:19:26 | DaveH | ethan: It is at this point that I would like to make the leagal disclami\mer that I will be in no way responsible for ipaqs blowing up or leaping out of their cradles and killing their owners |
| 22:27:38 | ethan | ha ha |
| 22:28:31 | DaveH | So howd it go |
| 22:28:34 | ethan | Seems to work better, but I got a very limited menu. Serial had not been logged in. |
| 22:28:45 | ethan | But the fucker _bit_ me! |
| 22:28:49 | ethan | ;) |
| 22:29:25 | ethan | I'll restart (I was playing with xcalibrate) see wot i got |
| 22:30:06 | DaveH | if you look at the files in /usr/lib/menu they are responsible for building menu enteries most packages come with a file for there ... if you run update-menus once you have entered a file there it will rebuikld the\ menus |
| 22:32:55 | ethan | OK, I'll try that. In the meantime, I think what I have is two windows, one ion?, the other seems to be blackbox. Expanding one gets me a full window titled xstroke in the theme |
| 22:35:30 | ethan | menu-update got me some kind of help (that wasn't very) |
| 22:35:45 | DaveH | Ok xstroke is the graffiti manager IE stroke recognition ... I use black box so dont know a great deal about ion .. |
| 22:40:03 | ethan | huh.. |
| 22:42:40 | ethan | Well, I get more options by not clicking on those boxes. I get a Debian menu with options like configuyration, games, utilities, |
| 22:43:50 | ethan | which packages do I need to access the same kind of functionality as wince? for instance, I'm pretty sure I ipkg'd a mp3 player. Where is that bad boy? |
| 22:44:34 | DaveH | Yep thats the stuff .. under utilitys you \should have xterm .. dont need anything else do you ;-> if you press in the small xstroke box it turns characcter recognition on and off ... its worth downloading the xstroke-help package you are likly to need it to get started .. |
| 22:46:17 | DaveH | pypaq if you install the madplay stuff tehn you should have a audio option on the menus.. there is a task-mp3 packlage you can use to get that stuff.. as for wince level the contact management software is mingle todo is toad shedule is .... shedule |
| 22:47:53 | ethan | cool.... |
| 22:48:08 | ethan | how do I get xcalibrate to go? |
| 22:48:40 | ethan | oohh. x-term. got it. |
| 22:48:47 | DaveH | errr calabrate from menu then xcalabrate I think hang on ill go get mine and chack ? |
| 22:49:15 | ethan | How do I get ... xkbd to work for x-term? |
| 22:50:11 | DaveH | it should work for whatever is in focus ? |
| 22:50:36 | DaveH | configeration touchscreen calabrate from the menu |
| 22:51:40 | DaveH | input methods virtual keyboard should bring up xkbd |
| 23:00:01 | ethan | yah. |
| 23:00:47 | ethan | Xterm doesn't get me a terminal. I think I need something like rxvt? does that sound right? |
| 23:01:25 | ethan | I'm also sort of running out of space (says pikpaq) I got like 2.8 meg left. Is that typical? |
| 23:01:29 | DaveH | rxvt-aa package |
| 23:06:01 | ethan | got it. |
| 23:14:39 | DaveH | Thant should work now .. |
| 23:17:00 | ethan | yeah... Don't know how to get the xkbd input to the terminal, but I'll figure it out. Thanks a million, man. |
| 23:23:36 | Disconnect | anyone grok lirc IR stuff on the ipaq? |
| 23:23:41 | Disconnect | (or lirc on anything, for that matter) |