| 05:39:20 | williecdog | is away: I'm eatin' some grub |
| 07:28:29 | xwred1 | is back (gone 09:47:50) |
| 11:19:50 | WolfSoul | re |
| 11:19:55 | WolfSoul | anyone alive ? |
| 15:42:09 | marco | help for a root image!!!!!!!!! please help me!!! |
| 16:49:38 | marco | i have an error in loading root image... who can help me? |
| 16:56:58 | WolfSoul | did you try to reflash the omage like raster told you ? |
| 18:15:10 | ccezar | hello all :) |
| 18:15:59 | ccezar | I've installed Familiar 0.5 on my 16MB ROM/32MB RAM IPAQ. |
| 18:16:32 | ccezar | What are yours suggestion: what should I install next to have fully working environment with this hardware configuration? |
| 18:16:47 | ccezar | I've already installed task-x. What next? |
| 18:16:58 | ccezar | Any help/suggestions? |
| 18:17:36 | marco | there are anyone that can help me? i have a problem with "load root" command |
| 18:17:48 | marco | please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 18:17:51 | marco | please help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 18:17:57 | ccezar | marco: think can help. What's the problem? |
| 18:21:15 | ccezar | marco: do not flood, my irc reader just autoignored you due to flood :( |
| 18:22:16 | ccezar | marco: once again, but slowly :) Whats's the problem? |
| 18:24:17 | ccezar | marco: once again: what;s the problem? |
| 18:31:38 | ccezar | marco: yes I am :) |
| 18:50:40 | DaveH | Ok .. can anyone help me I seem to have managed to break my kernel.. I tried to install the 2.4.16 kernal. and kenal modules. that worked fine pointed zImage to the new kernal booted no prob but no pcmcia support. I then tried installing pcmcia-modules for 2.4.16 when I rebooted I get a blank screen .. and a load of stack dumps whenever i try to login from serial ... anyone have any idea what i do next ? |
| 20:29:05 | jtm | Anyone know why the agenda apps dont work properly with newer Xstroke? |
| 20:29:45 | jtm | You can't xstroke on top of agenda windows. You have to begin the stroke elsewhere on the screen |
| 20:35:01 | sven | You using agenda apps on your ipaq? |
| 20:35:24 | jtm | sure |
| 20:35:49 | sven | Sorry I don't have your answer... |
| 20:35:58 | sven | but how are Agenda PIM apps? |
| 20:36:12 | jtm | they are ok...no great thing |
| 20:36:21 | sven | compared to QPE? |
| 20:36:34 | jtm | sven: I grabbed them in hopes of syncing with some gnome apps but have yet to do any thing like that |
| 20:37:29 | sven | ahh...Trolltech says that they are working on some client-side sync software |
| 20:37:48 | jtm | sven: I havent done anything with qpe |
| 20:37:55 | jtm | s/qpe/QPE/ |
| 20:38:03 | sven | I'd like to sync to Kmailbox and addressbook |
| 20:38:17 | sven | You ought to give it a try |
| 20:38:33 | jtm | sven: whats the url? |
| 20:39:01 | sven | the feed to put in your ipkg.conf is... |
| 20:39:22 | sven | http://www.longbros.com/benjamin/ipaq/dist/feed |
| 20:39:27 | jtm | sven: can you tell me a little about QPE |
| 20:39:35 | sven | that is the unofficial feed |
| 20:39:54 | sven | the official is only version 1.4 while that link is 1.5 |
| 20:40:05 | sven | QPE is very much like KDE |
| 20:40:14 | sven | as far as maturity speaking |
| 20:40:45 | sven | It is quite usable as a set of PIM apps and MP3 player etc |
| 20:41:02 | jtm | did you say they were workingg on sync? |
| 20:41:25 | sven | it's easier to impress your friends cuz it's apps are faster than mingle etc |
| 20:41:32 | sven | yup |
| 20:41:45 | jtm | IMO...mingle kinda sux |
| 20:42:32 | sven | like I said, you oughta give QPE a chance |
| 20:42:43 | jtm | how big is it? |
| 20:43:08 | sven | comes in ipks so you can pick and choose |
| 20:43:17 | sven | point your browser here... |
| 20:43:24 | sven | http://www.trolltech.com/products/qtopia/index.html |
| 20:43:46 | sven | BTW, QPE is the old term, it's supposedly called QTopia now |
| 20:44:35 | jtm | chekcing... |
| 20:44:57 | sven | there's one thing about QPE that isn't yet up to community standards (aside from X of course) |
| 20:45:10 | sven | the HWR is not as good as Xstroke |
| 20:45:37 | sven | It's usable and even customizable but just not as good (or pretty) |
| 20:45:55 | a7r | you could port it, if you were so inclined. |
| 20:46:06 | sven | if I were a developer |
| 20:46:25 | sven | I'd love to learn, can you point me to good place to get started? |
| 20:46:42 | jtm | get started on qt development? |
| 20:46:58 | a7r | go grab one of O'Reilly's C++ book, a copy of K&R's the C Programming Language, and the TrollTech QT docs.. |
| 20:47:12 | a7r | also, having KDevelop around is nice for cross compilation and such. |
| 20:47:40 | sven | I'm on Mandrake 8.1 so KDevelop is preinstalled... |
| 20:47:54 | a7r | you need a new one for cross compilation.. |
| 20:48:02 | sven | what do you think about QT-Designer? |
| 20:48:08 | sven | ok where do I get it? |
| 20:59:05 | | QPE is probably at http://qpe.sourceforge.net |
| 20:59:05 | jtm | ibot: QPE |
| 20:59:55 | sven | I was referring to a cross compilation version of KDevelop. |
| 21:00:24 | jtm | sven: thats allright, i wasnt reffering to you |
| 21:07:42 | sven | dang, I just found out that my research paper is due tmw bye |
| 21:22:19 | Erasmus | Hey, anybody know why a bootloader would have problems erasing flash? |
| 21:26:25 | marco | ar7 can i talk with you...please about a problem... |
| 21:27:03 | marco | ar7: can i talk with you about a problem please |
| 21:31:06 | marco | i'm a problem with load root with status=00A200A2 can you help me? |
| 21:50:50 | pintsized | Hi all, anyone got time to help out a newbie? |
| 21:51:33 | jtm | speaking of new where are the boot params located now with Fam .5 |
| 21:54:47 | pintsized | OK, I'll just go ahead and ask my question... |
| 21:55:01 | pintsized | I've got 0.5 installed and have been going through the PPPHowto... |
| 21:55:27 | pintsized | TCP/IP between my workstation and the ipaq is working, but how do I remotely login? |
| 21:55:48 | pintsized | rlogin/telnet etc are refused, and as far as I can see not installed... |
| 21:56:04 | pintsized | ..and I can't use minicom and the ppp connection at the same time, ..or can I?? |
| 21:56:09 | jtm | pintsized: you need ssh? |
| 21:56:38 | pintsized | jtm: Any pointers as to what I need to do? |
| 21:57:09 | jtm | pintsized: do you have ssh installed...did you run ipkg install_pending |
| 21:57:51 | pintsized | jtm: I think I have ssh installed, I did run ipkg install_pending. should I run it again. |
| 21:58:27 | jtm | do a ps ax and see if sshd is running |
| 21:58:39 | jtm | ps ax | grep ssh |
| 21:59:25 | pintsized | Don't think it's running. |
| 21:59:38 | jtm | pintsized: try staring it /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 21:59:49 | jtm | s/staring/starting/ |
| 22:00:42 | pintsized | ssh: not found :( |
| 22:01:12 | jtm | pintsized: ipkg status ssh |
| 22:01:29 | jtm | if not installed run ipkg install ssh |
| 22:02:03 | flash | I have a strong feeling that ssh is not installed or even included in the familiar 0.5 task-bootstrap.. |
| 22:02:17 | pintsized | status returned nothing, ..installing gives me an error about not being able to connect to the server. |
| 22:02:37 | a7r | flash: it wasn't.. it was an oversite.. v0.5.1 will have it fixed.. |
| 22:02:40 | jtm | pintsized: can you ping familiar.handhelds.org? type route -n |
| 22:02:57 | jtm | pintsized: you may need to set your default route |
| 22:03:30 | pintsized | No, because I'm using minicom and thus the device is locked. |
| 22:04:01 | pintsized | Is there a way around this, i.e. using minicom and ppp on the same serial line? |
| 22:04:55 | jtm | pintsized: you have to x/zmodem upload the ssh package |
| 22:04:58 | a7r | pintsized: zmodem upload of ssh binaries.. |
| 22:05:47 | a7r | check the familiar@ archives for exactly what you need.. |
| 22:05:48 | jtm | pintsized: then you can install it from ramfs and start it. once running you can ssh in from a differnt box and type your commands w/o using your serial port |
| 22:06:20 | pintsized | OK. Cheers, I'll give it a go. |
| 22:15:43 | jtm | Whats the best way to get the stowawy keyboard to stay on while in use. Is anyone working on a on/off switch like fscrib and xstroke have? |
| 22:22:33 | williecdog | is away: I'm eatin' some grub |
| 22:22:43 | williecdog | is back (gone 00:00:10) |
| 22:23:10 | williecdog | is away: Actually, i'm off to BUY some grub. |
| 22:27:36 | pintsized | ssh now working :) Thanks. |
| 22:56:35 | sgodsell | is away: Family time ;) |
| 23:34:18 | williecdog | is back (gone 01:11:07) |
| 23:48:41 | mchang | re all |