| 00:18:09 | c9x | After completing the upload of the root filesystem, it says something like EraseSector XXXXXXXX eraseSector error and dies... I thought I followed the directions to the letter... |
| 00:18:28 | c9x | anyone seen this before? |
| 00:22:54 | c9x | I have not reset it yet, as I'm afraid if I do it'll brick it |
| 00:34:31 | jg | c9x: if you have a valid bootloader, you won't brick it.... All that means is that it is having trouble writing the root..... |
| 00:34:45 | jg | you don't even have to reset to retry.... |
| 00:40:26 | c9x | I was using bootldr 2.17.0 I just downgraded to 2.16.21 and am trying again |
| 01:24:55 | c9x | Ok, I now have the familiar base installed, but it doesn't want to load my 3c589 pcmcia network card |
| 01:25:25 | mchang | do I need to reformat my cf cards? I think they come out of the box as fat32. |
| 01:26:10 | c9x | cardmgr[78]: + modprobe: Can't locate module 3c589_cs |
| 01:26:10 | c9x | cardmgr[78]: modprobe exited with status 255 |
| 01:26:10 | c9x | cardmgr[78]: module /lib/modules/2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs/pcmcia/3c589_cs.o not avai |
| 01:26:10 | c9x | lable |
| 01:27:25 | c9x | The file IS in the directory, so not sure what to do next |
| 03:22:25 | DragonEagle | is away: just away |
| 03:28:06 | sgodsell | is back (gone 04:31:31) |
| 04:34:14 | sgodsell | is away: be be tomorrow |
| 13:19:12 | qtea | hi |
| 15:58:51 | ninux | i have a problem with the pppd connection between my ipaq and my desktop computer |
| 15:59:40 | ninux | in which mode can i install the ipk packages offline? |
| 16:24:38 | DaveH | if you load the ipk file into your ipaq /tmp is best then run ipkg install filename it should work fine ./.. the prob is you will have to load all the dependent packages ibn order .. it tells you what you need but it can be a pain |
| 17:58:56 | ninux | i have a problem... i do a conection between ipaq and desktop and i do not connect from desktop to ipaq for installing ipk packages who can help me? |
| 19:16:39 | nino | io |
| 19:17:35 | nino | i want to install ipk packages on my ipaq but sshd is no installated...what have to do? |
| 19:18:19 | nino | how are here? |
| 20:22:27 | edisto | hi all |
| 20:30:44 | a7r | hey.. |
| 20:43:29 | edisto | hey, yourself! |
| 20:44:55 | mchang | is there another type of window manager that we can use ? |
| 20:45:03 | mchang | i thought i saw some screens with E |
| 20:45:22 | a7r | you can use whichever window manager you want (built for ARM), but the ones packaged are blackbox and ion. |
| 20:45:45 | mchang | a7r: cool... suggestions? I'm guessing bb is tight. |
| 20:46:00 | a7r | mchang: bb looks good, but isn't as nice for a 320x240 display as ion. |
| 20:46:11 | edisto | I prefer ion |
| 20:46:17 | mchang | a7r: i'll check out both |
| 20:46:18 | a7r | some people are interested in icewm. |
| 20:46:29 | mchang | almost done loading the root :) |
| 20:47:08 | edisto | did they finally get pppd into that? |
| 20:47:30 | mchang | a7r: how's people liking qtp? |
| 20:47:32 | a7r | edisto: I added pppd, but took out ssh. ;) |
| 20:47:46 | a7r | mchang: a lot of people are digging it.. it's a pretty nice environment, if that's what you're into. |
| 20:48:00 | mchang | i read people putting qtp on cf and booting x normally, and qtp when they want to try that -- is that still workable on 0.5? |
| 20:48:13 | a7r | yeah. |
| 20:48:32 | edisto | so, sshd isn't in _pending? |
| 20:48:42 | bipolar_ | mchang: you can get unofficial ipks of the latest CVS build of Qtopia in my feed if you want to go that way. |
| 20:48:59 | a7r | edisto: nope.. it will be in v0.5. |
| 20:49:20 | mchang | bipolar_: can it coexist with fam complete in rom? |
| 20:49:33 | mchang | familiar login: NIIIICE. |
| 20:49:38 | wudoo | jo |
| 20:49:49 | bipolar_ | mchang: if you have the space, yes. |
| 20:50:21 | mchang | bipolar_: just a 3635 w/16mb |
| 20:50:36 | bipolar_ | mchang: tough to fit... |
| 20:50:49 | bipolar_ | mchang: you should try out both and decide. |
| 20:51:21 | mchang | bipolar_: cool.. will do |
| 20:52:30 | mchang | setting up ppp... |
| 20:52:42 | bipolar_ | mchang: have usb? |
| 20:53:09 | bipolar_ | mchang: usb is way faster. |
| 20:53:35 | mchang | bipolar_: no usb-enabled linux boxen... |
| 20:53:43 | wudoo | btw |
| 20:53:45 | bipolar_ | mchang: akk... Oh well. |
| 20:53:55 | wudoo | how can i connect over mobile phone to net |
| 20:53:58 | wudoo | over irda |
| 20:53:58 | wudoo | ? |
| 20:54:06 | mchang | bipolar_: i can load everything up on a cf card... wouldn't that be faster? |
| 20:54:42 | bipolar_ | mchang: I'm not sure how that would work dependancy wise. |
| 20:54:47 | mchang | bipolar_: i've heard people doing that... i can suck task-complete down on broadband... |
| 20:55:02 | bipolar_ | mchang: might have to load each ipk by hand. |
| 20:55:13 | mchang | bipolar_: uck |
| 20:55:44 | bipolar_ | mchang: might still be faster. :) |
| 20:55:55 | bipolar_ | mchang: whats wrong with usb machine? |
| 20:56:21 | mchang | bipolar_: it's windows |
| 20:56:29 | bipolar_ | mchang: fuh |
| 20:56:41 | mchang | bipolar_: and i'm guessing that wouldn't work :) |
| 20:56:56 | bipolar_ | mchang: nod |
| 20:57:04 | mchang | bipolar_: would be trick to make a bootable cd image to get debian up on cd with the requisite toolchains |
| 20:57:06 | mchang | that would be nice |
| 20:57:35 | bipolar_ | mchang: I use the the sharp RPMs. they work great. |
| 20:57:53 | mchang | bipolar_: what is the sharp rpms? |
| 20:58:31 | mchang | how big is task-complete going to be? i know it was hella slow to get 5mb of root fs on there... |
| 20:59:44 | mchang | damn... no ssh yet on fam 0.5 |
| 20:59:44 | mchang | doh |
| 20:59:58 | a7r | there's ssh, it's just not included on the bootstrap. |
| 21:00:27 | mchang | a7r: now that I have ppp set up, then how do I get task-complete in there without ssh? oops |
| 21:02:16 | DaveH | Hi folks |
| 21:04:06 | mchang | hi dave |
| 21:06:26 | bipolar_ | mchang: it's the toolchain that Sharp distributes for the Zaurus. |
| 21:06:49 | mchang | bipolar_: cool... i should be able to get that and make a cd distro |
| 21:06:59 | edisto | gotta zmodem it, I think |
| 21:07:14 | mchang | edisto: got it... in the archives :) |
| 21:07:23 | | no idea, bipolar_ |
| 21:07:23 | bipolar_ | ibot: build-ipkg? |
| 21:07:32 | | rumour has it ipkg-build is at http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/familiar/dist/ipkg/util/ipkg-build |
| 21:07:32 | bipolar_ | ibot: ipkg-build? |
| 21:07:40 | mchang | is there any reason that the penguin disappears on the ipaq lcd after awhile? |
| 21:08:26 | edisto | let's run familiar on the zaurus |
| 21:14:16 | bipolar_ | mchang: screen saver in FB code. |
| 21:16:59 | bipolar_ | adds Tronical's konquror port to his Qtopia feed... |
| 21:26:13 | egnor | Hello. Anyone here? I have a question. |
| 21:26:18 | a7r | yes.. |
| 21:26:36 | egnor | I'm trying to install Familiar 0.5 on my iPAQ. |
| 21:26:41 | a7r | cool. |
| 21:26:45 | egnor | It went fine (well, not *fine*) until I first booted the kernel. |
| 21:26:50 | egnor | Everything comes up, until it says: |
| 21:26:58 | egnor | "Setting the System Clock using the Hardware Clock as reference..." |
| 21:27:01 | egnor | And then it just stops. |
| 21:27:11 | a7r | which iPAQ do you have? |
| 21:27:18 | egnor | 3670, I believe. |
| 21:27:34 | egnor | No... 3650. |
| 21:27:41 | a7r | odd.. have you tried hard resetting it (i.e. turning off the battery, and turning it back on)? |
| 21:27:52 | egnor | I have not. Is that likely to help? Er... how do I do that? |
| 21:28:10 | egnor | Oh, this is the little switch behind the slidey cover on the bottom? I can try that. |
| 21:28:49 | egnor | Should I wait a few seconds? |
| 21:28:54 | a7r | yes. |
| 21:29:29 | egnor | OK. I waited ~ 15 seconds, powered it back on. The bootldr came up, and the boot... same thing. |
| 21:29:38 | egnor | "Setting the System Clock" and then it just stops. |
| 21:30:09 | egnor | The last few messages were... |
| 21:30:14 | egnor | SA-1100 PCMCIA (CS release 3.1.22) |
| 21:30:14 | egnor | sa1100_h3600_common_pcmcia_get_irq_info |
| 21:30:14 | egnor | sa1100_h3600_common_pcmcia_get_irq_info |
| 21:30:14 | egnor | sa1100: initialization complete |
| 21:30:15 | egnor | h3600_generic_pcmcia_init_module: registering sleeve drivers |
| 21:30:15 | egnor | h3600-uda1341 iPAQ audio support initialized |
| 21:30:18 | egnor | Setting the System Clock using the Hardware Clock as reference... |
| 21:30:43 | a7r | egnor: OKay, you're going to need to boot up without the RTC being touched.. set your linuxargs to be ``init=/bin/sh'' instead of ``init=/linuxrc'' |
| 21:30:55 | egnor | OK. Let me reset. |
| 21:32:55 | mchang | How's qtopia working on b&w models (31xx)? |
| 21:33:01 | flash | a7r: I had the exact same problem with mine a few days ago. |
| 21:33:16 | egnor | boot> set linuxargs "noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock/1 init=/bin/sh console=ttySA0" |
| 21:33:17 | egnor | like so? |
| 21:33:47 | egnor | boot> params save |
| 21:34:02 | flash | a7r: didn't solve it though, went for testing kiss instead.. the problem occured after a total drain of batteries, worked fine before that. |
| 21:34:30 | egnor | OK, now I have a naked shell. |
| 21:34:44 | egnor | Hmm, it doesn't respond to me, though. I can't type at it. |
| 21:37:47 | egnor | Last few messages: |
| 21:37:48 | egnor | VFS: Mounted root (jffs2 filesystem). |
| 21:37:48 | egnor | Mounted devfs on /dev |
| 21:37:48 | egnor | Freeing init memory: 60K |
| 21:37:48 | egnor | banshee: can't access tty; job control turned off |
| 21:37:48 | egnor | # |
| 21:37:53 | a7r | yeah, that's great.. |
| 21:38:32 | egnor | If I could type at it, I could comment out the hwclock line, wherever that lives. |
| 21:38:42 | a7r | you should be able to type at it. |
| 21:38:53 | a7r | the hwclock reference is in /etc/rc2.d .. |
| 21:39:04 | egnor | No response. I know my terminal emulator's OK because I can type at the bootldr fine, but it just sits there. |
| 21:39:29 | egnor | Maybe it crashed again, and it's a time thing, not anything having to do with hwclock per se? |
| 21:39:42 | a7r | maybe, but I haven't heard of that before. |
| 21:40:26 | egnor | When I reset it, all of the stuff I'd been trying to type in to the prompt got interpreted by bootldr instead. Weird. |
| 21:40:43 | egnor | And then it came up trying to boot as usual. I guess the "set linuxargs" isn't sticky? |
| 21:41:41 | a7r | no.. because the bootloader doesn't know how to write to JFFS2. |
| 21:42:11 | egnor | Did it again, booted again, same thing: shell prompt that doesn't respond. |
| 21:42:27 | a7r | humor me, and double check your flow-control settings |
| 21:43:11 | egnor | Hardware on, software off. I'll try turning both off |
| 21:43:35 | a7r | yeah, both need to be. |
| 21:43:50 | egnor | OK, now I can type at it. It still crashes at hwclock. So, resetting to go back to /bin/sh. |
| 21:43:59 | egnor | Sorry about the flow control thing, that's probably mentioned in the document. |
| 21:44:50 | egnor | Yay, I have a shell. So, /etc/rc2.d somewhere? |
| 21:45:32 | egnor | ... /etc/rcS.d/S50hwclock.sh. |
| 21:45:59 | a7r | yup. |
| 21:46:11 | a7r | you can remove that.. |
| 21:46:46 | egnor | "Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init!" hee hee. |
| 21:46:53 | egnor | (When I exited the shell. Normal.) |
| 21:47:34 | egnor | Whee, I have a login prompt! Cool, thank you. Any idea what the problem is? Why does hwclock crash? Or does it just hang? |
| 21:48:45 | egnor | # date |
| 21:48:45 | egnor | Fri Nov 17 05:59:12 UTC 1967 |
| 21:48:55 | egnor | I didn't think Unix could do 1967. |
| 21:49:46 | egnor | What happens if I add a sleeve at runtime? Does it explode? |
| 21:50:28 | aness | egnor: try :) |
| 21:53:17 | egnor | Hey, look at that. |
| 21:53:22 | egnor | But it can't find the 3c589_cs module. |
| 21:53:29 | egnor | Even though it's sitting there in /lib/modules/blah/blah... |
| 21:53:44 | egnor | module /lib/modules/2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs/pcmcia/3c589_cs.o not avai |
| 21:53:45 | egnor | lable |
| 21:53:48 | egnor | "not available"? |
| 21:53:54 | a7r | it doesnt' work. |
| 21:54:09 | egnor | Oh, I see, and the link is broken. |
| 21:54:14 | a7r | Linux's driver for that card doesn't function at all under ARM. |
| 21:54:21 | egnor | So what does work? |
| 21:54:34 | a7r | Orinoco cards, prism2 cards.. I've heard pcnet works. |
| 21:54:34 | aness | egnor: NE2000 works |
| 21:55:15 | aness | a7r: any experience with bluetooth ? |
| 21:56:29 | a7r | aness: not yet, but it's definitely going to be something that'll be supported when the time is right.. |
| 21:56:30 | egnor | OK, that seems to work. It couldn't find the serial_cs half, though. |
| 21:57:00 | aness | a7r: do you know if the bluetooth-sleave works ? |
| 21:57:20 | a7r | aness: it doesn't yet.. |
| 21:57:22 | egnor | NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out |
| 21:57:22 | egnor | eth0: pcnet_reset_8390() did not complete. |
| 21:57:53 | aness | a7r: oki :/ |
| 21:58:03 | a7r | egnor: hmm, that's wrong.. and means you're going to have problems.. try upgrading to 2.4.16 |
| 21:58:18 | egnor | Oh boy. Do I get to compile a kernel? |
| 21:58:34 | a7r | nope.. you can grab the packages from: ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/2.4.16 |
| 21:58:45 | aness | a7r: somebody is working on it ? |
| 21:58:56 | a7r | yeah, I think Jamey built those. |
| 21:59:34 | egnor | Do I just put it in /boot and magically magic foo? |
| 21:59:45 | a7r | you install the packages, and they stick themselves in the right places.. |
| 21:59:59 | egnor | Install the package. High tech. I see, they're all .ipk files. |
| 22:00:16 | egnor | Now, please tell me the default install has rzsz... |
| 22:00:22 | a7r | yup. |
| 22:00:57 | bipolar_ | damnit... I cant just upgrade from one feed to another... |
| 22:01:00 | egnor | So, I shouldn't take the presence of a package named "3c589-modules-2.4.16-..." to mean that it might work? |
| 22:01:34 | bipolar_ | a7r: Are the kernel packages in http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l/ the same as the lorian feed? |
| 22:02:11 | a7r | bipolar_: yup. |
| 22:02:19 | a7r | egnor: no, sorry to get your hopes up. ;) |
| 22:02:55 | egnor | So I'm guessing I want kernel-... and kernel-modules-...? |
| 22:03:07 | a7r | yup. |
| 22:03:55 | egnor | zmodem >> xmodem |
| 22:05:38 | mchang | egnor: yep... |
| 22:05:50 | egnor | Heh, 'tar' really doesn't like my old-school clock. |
| 22:06:08 | mchang | geezus... task-complete over ppp is sloooooow |
| 22:07:06 | egnor | Do I need to change the /boot/zImage symlink? |
| 22:07:11 | egnor | It still points at the 2.4.7 image. |
| 22:07:25 | egnor | Or is there some magic kernelconf foo foo that ...? |
| 22:09:10 | egnor | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/module |
| 22:09:12 | egnor | s/2.4.16-rmk1/kernel/drivers/char/h3600_backpaq_fpga.o |
| 22:09:20 | egnor | Otherwise... boy, that's a quiet kernel boot. |
| 22:09:43 | egnor | Starting PCMCIA services: module directory /lib/modules/2.4.16-rmk1/pcmcia not f |
| 22:09:44 | egnor | ound. |
| 22:10:12 | egnor | I'm guessing I want pcmcia-modules-///.ipk, too, then. :) |
| 22:12:08 | egnor | which works? |
| 22:13:06 | egnor | It doesn't explode, but it doesn't seem to notice the card either. :( |
| 22:13:42 | a7r | not good. |
| 22:13:54 | egnor | And now I have two unresolved-symbol modules: |
| 22:13:59 | egnor | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.16-rmk1/kernel/drivers/char/h |
| 22:13:59 | egnor | 3600_backpaq_fpga.o |
| 22:13:59 | egnor | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.16-rmk1/kernel/drivers/ide/id |
| 22:13:59 | egnor | e-cs.o |
| 22:14:36 | egnor | I'm worried about the h3600_backpaq_fpga thing. |
| 22:14:51 | a7r | don't.. you don't have a backpaq with an FPGA in it,.. |
| 22:15:05 | egnor | OK, with a reboot, it's a little different: |
| 22:15:26 | egnor | SA-1100 PCMCIA (CS release 3.1.22) |
| 22:15:26 | egnor | h3600-uda1341 modprobe: Can't locate module h3600-uda1341 |
| 22:15:26 | egnor | sa1100_cs |
| 22:15:32 | egnor | Starting PCMCIA services: modulesinsmod: a module named pcmcia_core already exis |
| 22:15:32 | egnor | ts |
| 22:15:32 | egnor | insmod: a module named sa1100_cs already exists |
| 22:15:32 | egnor | cardmgr. |
| 22:15:42 | egnor | It sees the card, but it can't find the modules. |
| 22:15:51 | a7r | that's good.. which module does it want? |
| 22:16:04 | egnor | cardmgr[77]: module /lib/modules/2.4.16-rmk1/pcmcia/pcnet_cs.o not available |
| 22:16:25 | a7r | egnor: okay, now go huntdown the pcnet driver package.. |
| 22:16:34 | a7r | in the 2.4.16 feed. |
| 22:16:34 | mchang | a7r: hey, what backpaq has an fpga in it? |
| 22:16:59 | a7r | mchang: there's only one BackPaq.. the Project Mercury one that CRL is working on. |
| 22:17:18 | mchang | a7r: ah,okay. Thought it was a generic 'sleeve' product name. |
| 22:17:40 | a7r | mchang: it's cool, built in camera for video conferencing, 2 PCMCIA slots, etc. |
| 22:18:31 | mchang | a7r: nice. i just heard 'fpga' and perked up |
| 22:19:05 | egnor | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.16-rmk1/kernel/drivers/net/pc |
| 22:19:05 | egnor | mcia/pcnet_cs.o |
| 22:19:07 | egnor | waah |
| 22:19:30 | a7r | do a: ``modprobe pcnet_cs'', and see what it says it needs. |
| 22:20:06 | egnor | # modprobe pcnet_cs |
| 22:20:06 | egnor | ei_open |
| 22:20:06 | egnor | ethdev_init |
| 22:20:06 | egnor | ei_interrupt |
| 22:20:06 | egnor | NS8390_init |
| 22:20:07 | egnor | es/2.4.16-rmk1/kernel/drivers/net/pcmcia/pcnet_cs.o failed |
| 22:20:09 | egnor | ailed |
| 22:20:13 | mchang | how long does the task-complete take over ppp? |
| 22:20:17 | egnor | Uh, try again. |
| 22:20:20 | a7r | mchang: a long time. ;) |
| 22:20:26 | egnor | It wants ei_open, ethdev_init, ei_interrupt, NS8390_init, ... |
| 22:20:49 | egnor | Getting 8390-modules-... now. :) |
| 22:20:52 | mchang | a7r: >30 mins? |
| 22:20:52 | a7r | ;) |
| 22:21:09 | a7r | mchang: about that long.. you'll get like 11kB/s |
| 22:21:10 | mchang | a7r: just want to make sure it's not stuck in a loop or something... i swear i've seen the same packages go by |
| 22:21:18 | egnor | Does ipkg have dependencies? It must, with all those task- packages. |
| 22:21:33 | a7r | egnor: it does, but we've been lax on the kernel packages. |
| 22:21:51 | mchang | i'm on libfltk now |
| 22:22:25 | mchang | libfreetype |
| 22:22:26 | egnor | NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out |
| 22:22:26 | egnor | eth0: pcnet_reset_8390() did not complete. |
| 22:22:34 | egnor | sigh. |
| 22:22:35 | a7r | egnor: Okay, strike 3, you're out. :P |
| 22:22:55 | a7r | egnor: what card are you using? |
| 22:23:03 | egnor | "IBM Home & Away". |
| 22:23:17 | egnor | cardmgr detects it with no problem. |
| 22:23:23 | egnor | It works great under x86 Linux. |
| 22:23:37 | a7r | yeah it's an ARM-related driver problem no doubt.. |
| 22:24:19 | egnor | I'm using a dual sleeve, if that matters. |
| 22:24:23 | mchang | a7r: ok ... this is taking forever. I'll eat something now :> |
| 22:24:36 | a7r | egnor: it doesn't.. those drivers just have problems. |
| 22:25:24 | egnor | http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0110.3/1764.html isn't likely to be relevant? |
| 22:27:14 | egnor | I suppose the APIC is processor specific, so probably not. |
| 22:35:46 | | it has been said that ipkg-make-index is http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/~checkout~/familiar/dist/ipkg/util/ipkg-make-index?rev=1.5&content-type=text/plain |
| 22:35:46 | bipolar_ | ibot ipkg-make-index |
| 22:39:03 | xwred1 | hey, anyone knows what the timeframe is for getting familiar on the new ipaqs? I was thinking of selling my 3650 and getting a 3800-series one |
| 22:39:25 | a7r | the kernel work has been done initially, I think there's bootloader work to do.. |
| 22:40:46 | xwred1 | I think I saw a guy on the mailing list say there were some differences that they'd need to iron out and support |
| 22:41:17 | xwred1 | I think I'll be able to live with wince 2002 long enough until familiar supports the model |
| 22:41:48 | egnor | I noticed the latest bootloader ChangeLog entries say "support for 3800". |
| 22:42:31 | egnor | You could get a Zaurus instead... |
| 22:43:47 | xwred1 | but the Zaurus isn't a `PocketPC` is it, just runs Linux, right? |
| 22:43:58 | egnor | That's right. |
| 22:45:40 | xwred1 | the hardware probably isn't as powerful either |
| 22:45:48 | xwred1 | I've already got a dual sleeve + orinoco for my ipaq |
| 22:45:54 | xwred1 | was gonna keep it for the 3800 model |
| 22:50:40 | bipolar_ | xwred1: it's got the same CPU. |
| 22:50:59 | bipolar_ | xwred1: the screen is a little smaller, but the whole thing is smaller/lighter. |
| 22:51:19 | xwred1 | well, I still probably can't use my dual sleeve on it |
| 22:51:20 | bipolar_ | xwred1: but the file system suks. |
| 22:51:35 | bipolar_ | xwred1: it has a built in CF and SD slot. |
| 22:51:58 | bipolar_ | xwred1: but no pcmcia |
| 22:52:15 | xwred1 | yea, well, I use pcmcia. Think I'd rather stick with the iPaq |
| 22:52:51 | egnor | Are the sleeves compatible between 3600/3800? |
| 22:52:59 | bipolar_ | egnor: yes |
| 22:54:10 | bipolar_ | the Zaurus guys should really switch to jffs2. Cramfs is no fun |
| 22:59:57 | DaveH | is away: I'm busy |
| 23:14:20 | bipolar_ | Has anyone else noticed that ipkg has major problems that cause it to wget packages to the current directory instead of /tmp/ipkg? |
| 23:25:29 | bipolar_ | Wow. Konquror/e is awesome. |
| 23:25:40 | bipolar_ | now I need to get a CF 802.11b card... :) |
| 23:26:59 | mchang | is ntpdate working? I get invalid argument when I try and sync time |
| 23:33:23 | egnor | My ipkg seems to download to /tmp just fine. |
| 23:39:41 | mchang | does rxvt default to the usable ttf fonts? I am trying 5.5 and it is absoultely unreadable. |
| 23:41:59 | sven | somebody have trouble with ipkg? |
| 23:42:22 | sven | I had trouble with it awhile ago |
| 23:42:55 | sven | I just commented out the mv command that comes after the wget command (hint, theres only one wget command) |
| 23:44:33 | sven | a7r: perhaps you've run into this before, it was taking the default destination and tacking a "." on the beginning making /tmp into ./tmp |
| 23:49:06 | mchang | a7r: should I use ipkg to get the new kernel, or just ftp and install locally? |
| 23:54:14 | sven | I've installed the new kernel via ipkg |
| 23:54:47 | sven | I haven't gotten the bootldr to select it by default yet, but it boots and works great |
| 23:54:55 | sven | and uses a lot less power too. |
| 23:55:58 | mchang | sven: how do you change feeds? |
| 23:56:30 | sven | you don't have to change feeds |
| 23:56:35 | sven | you can just add them |
| 23:56:43 | sven | to do so... |
| 23:56:53 | sven | edit your /etc/ipkg.conf file |
| 23:57:36 | sven | just add a line that looks like this: src feed-name http://feed.com/address/here |
| 23:57:55 | sven | you'll see the default one in there |
| 23:59:44 | mchang | sven: ok... hopefully i'll have enough room for both kernels. 2mb free |