| 01:58:03 | sgodsell | is back (gone 06:17:02) |
| 02:28:26 | bipolar | is back (gone 02:42:19) |
| 03:57:43 | bipolar | is away: I'm in bed, sleeping, like a *normal* person. |
| 04:02:23 | mchang | how-dee |
| 04:19:45 | mchang | whoops, I turned the console to the lcd, how do I put it back to the serial? |
| 04:20:33 | a7r | mchang: set your console variable correctly in linuxargs.. |
| 04:20:46 | mchang | a7r: can't i just change it in /boot/params |
| 04:20:55 | a7r | yeah, that's your linuxargs. |
| 04:21:33 | mchang | a7r: I have ' set linuxargs "noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock/1 init=/linuxrc console=/dev/ttySA0" ' |
| 04:21:50 | a7r | that should be fine. |
| 04:22:04 | mchang | a7r: still shows up on the lCD.... rebooted and all |
| 04:22:17 | a7r | mchang: what have you changed recently? |
| 04:22:49 | mchang | a7r: not much -- did the change to put it to the lcd, removed some big apps in qpe, and put it back. |
| 04:23:04 | a7r | mchang: not sure then.. try setting it manually.. |
| 04:23:33 | mchang | a7r: i just rebooted and got the boot stuff in the serial console up until uncompressing linux -- then the rest went to the lcd... |
| 04:23:51 | mchang | a7r: even saw the line for my params, including the console part. weird |
| 04:25:32 | mchang | a7r: just set it manually in the bootldr |
| 04:25:37 | mchang | a7r: still didn't work... doh |
| 04:28:18 | mchang | a7r: switched console=ttySA0 |
| 04:28:19 | mchang | worked |
| 04:28:27 | a7r | hah, whatever works.. |
| 04:28:50 | mchang | a7r: right on |
| 04:29:25 | egnor | There's no actual way to do text input on the LCD console, is there? |
| 06:20:29 | Pollita | blah |
| 07:25:33 | stalker | is away: good night all |
| 14:16:22 | prh | is away: I'm busy |
| 14:16:38 | prh | is back (gone 00:00:06) |
| 15:23:28 | bipolar | is back (gone 11:25:42) |
| 16:54:56 | raldi | so is it me, or is there no way to close the mixer app other than using the kill command? |
| 19:10:25 | mark_ | does familiar have support for the wireless network addon you can get to the ipaq 3630? |
| 19:11:30 | merf | which one? ;/ |
| 19:12:25 | mark_ | didnt know there was more than one. well any really |
| 19:22:01 | xwred1 | its not an addon. people make 802.11b cards, and you buy them. there's lots of them. |
| 19:22:27 | xwred1 | find out what chipset is in the card you wanna get, then research support |
| 19:23:08 | merf | what about cf storage cards? |
| 19:23:18 | merf | they're all pretty much generically supported, right? |
| 19:24:01 | jamey | cf storage cards are all IDE, which is supported by a nice generic interface |
| 19:24:26 | merf | mm.. |
| 19:24:39 | merf | now i need a job so i can buy a sleeve and a 128mb card |
| 19:24:52 | merf | or, if i'm feeling flush, a microdrive |
| 19:24:57 | jamey | merf: that's a common problem |
| 19:25:05 | merf | which i'll use for about 15 minutes before my battery dies |
| 19:25:05 | merf | hah |
| 19:26:02 | merf | it'll never be a problem for me |
| 19:26:08 | merf | i can't afford a CF sleeve, let alone a microdrive |
| 19:32:02 | BBrox | A CF sleeve ? |
| 19:32:10 | BBrox | I hope you mean a PCMCIA sleeve ! |
| 19:32:31 | merf | i suppose that'd be smarter |
| 19:32:37 | merf | cause i could still use CF cards with a PCMCIA adapter |
| 19:32:47 | merf | and then i could use my IBM 56k modem |
| 19:33:06 | merf | too bad CF sleeves = GBP30 and PCMCIA sleeves = GBP70 :( |
| 19:33:19 | Pollita | The dual-slot sleeve I just bought came WITH a CF adapter... |
| 19:33:42 | merf | i bet that was sexpensive :/ |
| 19:33:50 | merf | i can get an adapter for four quid though |
| 19:33:51 | Pollita | 200USD |
| 19:33:52 | merf | so that's no biggie |
| 19:34:01 | BBrox | The CF sleeve is really cheap compared to the others |
| 19:34:04 | merf | that's a hundred quid.. i don't have any money at all :D |
| 19:34:15 | a7r | Pollita: whoa |
| 19:34:19 | Pollita | damn, didn't know the adapters were that cheap, hadn't priced 'em |
| 19:34:27 | Pollita | heya alin |
| 19:34:40 | Pollita | I bought me an iPaq :) |
| 19:34:53 | a7r | that's cool.. what're you going to use it for? |
| 19:35:07 | a7r | 64 bytes from 198.68.144.2: icmp_seq=0 ttl=246 time=18252.878 ms |
| 19:35:09 | Pollita | use? |
| 19:35:17 | Pollita | I should have purpose to my toy buying? |
| 19:35:22 | a7r | haha |
| 19:35:36 | a7r | that ping so owns, .. |
| 19:35:44 | Pollita | that's an evil ping |
| 19:36:07 | Pollita | I'm getting like 900 to my server in santa rosa right now, sonic.net is having....issues |
| 19:36:40 | a7r | I had a 40 second one a bit ago.. this is a total joke. |
| 19:36:51 | Pollita | So I'm debating using your evil anti-freemarket distribution.... |
| 19:37:46 | Pollita | if I decide it's coax^h^h^h^hgay, how easy is it to put pocketpc back on? |
| 19:42:49 | Pollita | Also, the bootloader instructions say the 3835 isn't supported.... what do you know about that? |
| 19:43:56 | merf | i read it's being worked on somewhere.. |
| 19:44:02 | merf | but i wouldn't know |
| 19:44:02 | merf | heh |
| 19:48:50 | Pollita | mentally backtracks, are you telling me the exchange rate is now up to 2USD/GBP ? |
| 19:49:12 | Pollita | it was 1.6 last I checked |
| 19:53:32 | mark_ | another q - space concerns ignored, would it be possible to play back videos on a familiar 3630? |
| 19:55:31 | Pollita | having not tried familiar yet I could not respond |
| 19:55:48 | Pollita | has it got xanim or anything of the like? |
| 19:55:55 | merf | mark_: should be.. |
| 19:56:08 | merf | although, i haven't gotten qpe's mpeg_player to even play mp3's yet |
| 19:56:23 | merf | but my mate who's got a Zaurus plays movies with mpeg_player just fine |
| 19:56:25 | merf | so it shouldn't be a problem |
| 19:56:59 | a7r | heh.. back.. |
| 19:57:44 | a7r | Pollita: there are a couple different MPEG players that work on it.. and there's a DiVX player being worked on. |
| 19:59:13 | merf | qpe's mpeg_player makes the speaker click once when i try to play an mp3 |
| 19:59:19 | merf | i dunno if it's cause my mp3 is screwey or what |
| 20:05:21 | Pollita | you guys know any good high capacity storage cards? like greater than 2gb? |
| 20:06:21 | merf | i still don't see why anyone would need that much storage on a handheld |
| 20:06:34 | merf | if i had the money to spend on that i'd buy a better laptop :/ |
| 20:09:02 | Pollita | 'cause handhelds are TINY |
| 20:09:19 | Pollita | and I'm not always within sight of a wireless router |
| 20:14:34 | merf | fair enough |
| 20:18:21 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 01:15:43) |
| 20:46:24 | dave_ | you guys willing to put up w/a couple of newbie questions? |
| 20:46:53 | merf | dave_: shoot ;D |
| 20:46:54 | merf | = newbie |
| 20:47:03 | dave_ | thanx |
| 20:47:21 | dave_ | since i'm sysadmin for the dept., they're thinking of buying me a palm |
| 20:47:34 | dave_ | the familiar project looks incredibly impressive |
| 20:47:38 | merf | tell them to get you a Zaurus |
| 20:47:44 | merf | ;D |
| 20:47:48 | dave_ | Zaurus? |
| 20:47:54 | merf | the new Sharp |
| 20:47:58 | merf | it's very sexy |
| 20:47:59 | dave_ | hm. i was thinking of the iPaq |
| 20:48:06 | dave_ | and usable? |
| 20:48:09 | merf | the iPaq is sexy also :D |
| 20:48:27 | dave_ | i figger'd i could use my pcmcia wireless card on the iPaq |
| 20:48:31 | merf | the Zaurus has a keyboard on it, though, which is fiddly but speeds up data entry greatly (or so i'm told) |
| 20:48:43 | merf | it depends on what chipset it has |
| 20:48:56 | dave_ | ahhh... no handwriting recognition in familiar? |
| 20:49:08 | merf | there's handwriting recognition |
| 20:49:17 | merf | but all handwriting recognition is slow |
| 20:49:32 | merf | the slide-out keyboard on the Zaurus is a little easier to use |
| 20:49:46 | dave_ | i had a palm - it was easier than pecking on the virtual kbd for me |
| 20:50:05 | dave_ | slide-out kbd?! whoa. |
| 20:50:24 | merf | i've always found recognition on the pocketpc devices a bit more finicky than on the Palm |
| 20:50:26 | dave_ | anyone tried interfacing a twiddler to one of these things, yet? |
| 20:50:37 | dave_ | ah. got it. |
| 20:51:03 | dave_ | bummer. and i spend 99% of my time at a shell prompt. ;-) |
| 20:51:44 | merf | i haven't really had much experience.. but using bash on an ipaq is an experience |
| 20:51:53 | merf | people always wonder what the hell you're doing ;D |
| 20:52:03 | dave_ | LOL. i can imagine. |
| 20:52:24 | dave_ | hm. i was hoping for a more portable network diagnostic tool... |
| 20:52:37 | dave_ | easier to work on users' machines w/a pda than a laptop. |
| 20:52:55 | merf | the only networking i have set up is serial ppp forwarding |
| 20:52:58 | merf | so i dunno about that |
| 20:52:58 | merf | heh |
| 20:53:41 | dave_ | got it. |
| 20:53:46 | dave_ | what do you use it for? |
| 20:54:19 | merf | not much.. haha |
| 20:54:22 | merf | it's a toy |
| 20:55:00 | dave_ | (chuckle) got it. hey, we all need 'em. |
| 20:55:10 | dave_ | unfortunately, i also need tools. :-( |
| 20:55:42 | dave_ | guess i'll just stick w/a palm pilot for now. 8-\ |
| 20:56:20 | merf | well, most everything you can find for Debian/ARM will run on the iPaq |
| 20:56:22 | merf | www.debian.org ;D |
| 20:56:47 | dave_ | LOL. damn. now you've got me interested again! |
| 20:57:34 | merf | although i haven't yet been able to get g++/gcc to work |
| 20:57:36 | merf | :/ |
| 20:57:58 | dave_ | well... 99% of my programming's in perl, bash, or python. i could live. :) |
| 20:58:01 | merf | but if i had a wireless card and a cf/pcmcia sleeve i'd install apache or something |
| 20:58:15 | merf | dave_: python comes with familiar, and perl isn't far behind it |
| 20:58:15 | merf | heh |
| 20:58:39 | dave_ | well. looks like i'll just have to do it, then. :) |
| 20:58:48 | dave_ | thanx a bunch for the info, merf! |
| 20:59:00 | merf | np.. definitely look arond on the wiki, too |
| 20:59:16 | dave_ | on the wiki? where is it? |
| 20:59:27 | merf | www.handhelds.org/z/wiki |
| 20:59:30 | merf | i think |
| 20:59:36 | merf | heh ;D |
| 20:59:39 | dave_ | 10-4. i'll find it. |
| 20:59:46 | merf | ;) |
| 20:59:53 | dave_ | thanx again. gotta run. another darned user's calling. :) |
| 21:00:30 | merf | ;D |
| 21:00:31 | merf | have fun |
| 21:00:38 | dave_ | you too! bye. |
| 21:50:31 | bipolar | is away: Going home... |
| 23:04:24 | pattieja | is away: Bible study + dinner (mmmm :) |