| 01:48:58 | Torkel | Read the section with says 'I am running kernel 2.4 on the "ppp host" machine |
| 01:49:01 | ChrisGVE | Oops... you are right... I've seen now... (I think I am too in a hurry of make my iPaq working... and I forget to read all the sentences...) Sorry... |
| 01:49:23 | Torkel | np |
| 04:29:33 | newbie | can someone tell me how to setup a compact flash card as hda? I cant get it to work |
| 04:40:29 | greyL | hello? |
| 05:51:36 | sgodsell_nb | is away: I will be back tomorrow. Good night everyone ;) |
| 05:53:00 | DragonEagle | is away: later all |
| 12:39:53 | owain | Hello |
| 12:44:09 | owain | Can anybody help me with my iPAQ? I tried to put familiar on but it all went wrong. |
| 15:34:01 | merf | anyone ever had a problem with the ipaq's stylus not staying in? |
| 20:08:44 | boodle | BBrox: heya, does the latest bbplay support divx? |
| 20:11:54 | BBrox | boodle: it shoul |
| 20:14:06 | boodle | BBrox: cool, thanks |
| 20:14:13 | Sc0tt | waves hi. |
| 20:14:56 | Sc0tt | would like to ask something... I saw some posts on the archive mailing list... and I am looking for a handheld where to install familiar. |
| 20:15:19 | Sc0tt | I saw that there are some tries with a toshiba handhelpd that carries a 5gb disk. |
| 20:15:26 | Sc0tt | which model is it? |
| 20:16:14 | Sc0tt | asks this because what he found doesn't say anything about 5g |
| 20:16:45 | Sc0tt | at least no on their pda site |
| 21:26:59 | Arondylos | hello, I've downloaded task-bootstrap.jffs2 from familiar 0.5, is ssh/sshd supposed to be preinstalled? |
| 21:28:37 | Kero | supposes you still need to run `ipkg post_install` or something |
| 21:29:09 | Kero | (look further down the install page) |
| 21:30:45 | Arondylos | ipkg install_pending, done that, returns nothing though. |
| 21:31:07 | Arondylos | is there any other remote login stuff I could use? However, I suspect the image did not get flashed correctly. Is there any way to check? |
| 21:31:35 | Arondylos | df shows /dev/mtdblock/1 with 6916 used 1kblocks. |
| 21:32:18 | Kero | I don't know enough about jffs2 for that... |
| 21:32:33 | Kero | You may find the pending ipkg's (incl sshd) in /tmp somewhere. |
| 21:32:41 | Kero | Try to install them by hand. |
| 21:32:56 | Kero | However, if you suspect the image flash failed, try a reinstall first. |
| 21:33:00 | Arondylos | theres only one thing in /tmp, which is the directory ipkg, which is... empty. |
| 21:33:12 | Arondylos | how long do those ususally take (reflashes)? |
| 21:33:39 | Kero | xmodem is slow... several minutes, iirc |
| 21:34:11 | Arondylos | My minicom starts the upload and when I close the upload window, it is somewhere at "adding.." after the xmodem stuff finishes. It doesnt continue and it doesnt end with verifying...formatting..done. |
| 21:34:12 | Kero | forgot how big task-bootstrap is |
| 21:34:23 | Arondylos | so, I will reflash again... doing it now. |
| 21:34:30 | Arondylos | thanks so far |
| 21:34:36 | Kero | ok, sounds like the best thing to do. |
| 21:34:46 | Kero | verifying...done is pretty much required. |
| 21:35:06 | Arondylos | oops.... do i have to shutdown -h now the ipaq or how do I reset it to the bootloader? |
| 21:35:22 | Kero | try `reboot` |
| 21:35:39 | Kero | otherwise hit the reset button at the bottom of the ipaq. |
| 21:35:39 | Arondylos | ah, I was too fast... wait a second |
| 21:35:56 | Arondylos | yep |
| 21:38:08 | Arondylos | xmodem transfer in progress again.. thatll take a while :-) |
| 22:06:48 | _MAX_ | hi there |
| 22:07:17 | Kero | hello |
| 22:07:52 | _MAX_ | did someone of you ever tried the memory upgrade |
| 22:07:58 | _MAX_ | on an ipaq |
| 22:08:39 | Kero | yes and no. |
| 22:08:52 | _MAX_ | uhm? |
| 22:08:54 | Kero | Mine is currently abroad to get more flash |
| 22:09:20 | _MAX_ | ah, did you made it by yourself? |
| 22:09:31 | Kero | that's the no-part... |
| 22:09:49 | _MAX_ | ah.. |
| 22:10:07 | _MAX_ | i did not find someone in europe doing it |
| 22:10:23 | Kero | the flash-upgrade is done for me in Ireland. |
| 22:12:02 | _MAX_ | ah..do you got contats? |
| 22:12:44 | Kero | erm, it's not. the papers came from Ireland. |
| 22:13:20 | Kero | is a bit confused... why would the papers come from Ireland if the upgrade is done in .NL |
| 22:17:53 | _MAX_ | hmm duno |
| 22:18:11 | _MAX_ | btw did someone bring the cisco aironet to live? |
| 22:27:14 | blakangel | whats up |
| 22:27:16 | blakangel | everyone |
| 22:27:34 | _MAX_ | i guess i just fucked up my ipaq right now :-( |
| 22:27:40 | blakangel | what happened |
| 22:27:56 | _MAX_ | well all was running fine... |
| 22:28:15 | _MAX_ | then after some weeks i thinked to go pack to ce temporrary |
| 22:28:24 | _MAX_ | boot> ..auxm rx status: 0x00000020 |
| 22:28:30 | _MAX_ | ahaha!!! |
| 22:28:38 | xyu | why can i not export a xterm to my ipaq ? |
| 22:28:40 | _MAX_ | i just got back the boot prompt! |
| 22:28:55 | _MAX_ | blakangel: well... |
| 22:29:07 | blakangel | _MAX_: good |
| 22:29:17 | _MAX_ | blakangel: but im still in troubles |
| 22:29:18 | blakangel | xyu: export TERM=xterm |
| 22:29:19 | xyu | i did a xhost +, export my display |
| 22:29:20 | blakangel | doesnt work? |
| 22:29:25 | blakangel | oh |
| 22:29:30 | blakangel | run a xterm on it |
| 22:29:38 | xyu | i did a setenv DISPLAY 172.16.1.14:0.0 on my irix box |
| 22:29:43 | xyu | then a xterm |
| 22:29:50 | blakangel | hmmm |
| 22:29:53 | blakangel | what happens |
| 22:29:54 | xyu | says can't open display.. |
| 22:30:04 | _MAX_ | xhost + on the ipaq |
| 22:30:07 | blakangel | maybe the ipaq x server isnt listening |
| 22:30:08 | xyu | did that |
| 22:30:09 | blakangel | ? |
| 22:30:19 | xyu | not listening ? |
| 22:30:20 | xyu | hmm |
| 22:30:23 | xyu | lemme see |
| 22:30:27 | xyu | doubt that |
| 22:30:38 | _MAX_ | blakangel: can you help me with getting back to wince? |
| 22:30:47 | _MAX_ | i did it the right way i guess |
| 22:30:48 | blakangel | _MAX_: no idea how to get back to wince |
| 22:30:50 | blakangel | heh |
| 22:30:55 | _MAX_ | ok |
| 22:31:19 | xyu | i have x-window-manager as process |
| 22:31:21 | xyu | and Xipaq |
| 22:31:25 | blakangel | yea |
| 22:31:27 | blakangel | hmmm |
| 22:31:31 | xyu | have no more so can't see if it's in netstat |
| 22:31:40 | blakangel | portscan the ipaq |
| 22:31:45 | blakangel | see if udp 6000 is listening |
| 22:31:46 | xyu | k |
| 22:32:00 | xyu | i see 6000 in netstat so i _assume_ it's list |
| 22:32:03 | blakangel | try doing xhost +ipofirix |
| 22:32:05 | blakangel | yeah |
| 22:32:08 | blakangel | true |
| 22:32:09 | blakangel | hmmm |
| 22:32:15 | xyu | tcp *: LISTEN |
| 22:32:18 | blakangel | yea |
| 22:32:26 | xyu | tcp *:6000 LISTEN |
| 22:32:28 | blakangel | k |
| 22:32:29 | xyu | think that's X |
| 22:32:33 | blakangel | yeah |
| 22:33:03 | xyu | oh wait |
| 22:33:06 | xyu | i know what the prob is |
| 22:34:09 | xyu | routing prob ;-) |
| 22:34:10 | _MAX_ | blakangel..what you developing on the ipaq? |
| 22:34:19 | blakangel | nothin yet |
| 22:34:22 | blakangel | im still learning too |
| 22:34:26 | _MAX_ | just load it? |
| 22:34:36 | _MAX_ | which model you got? |
| 22:34:37 | blakangel | ive had familiar on it for a month or two |
| 22:34:40 | blakangel | 3635 |
| 22:35:45 | _MAX_ | i only got the 3600 |
| 22:37:48 | xyu | mm remote machine not dgl capable. guess i can't run buttonfly on ipaq ;-) |
| 22:38:52 | |pariah| | 12hey has anyone flashed bootldr to a non ipaq strongARM yet? |
| 22:39:24 | _MAX_ | no |
| 22:39:34 | |pariah| | 12aw man |
| 22:40:04 | _MAX_ | on whitch you want to |
| 22:40:53 | |pariah| | 12looks like i may be getting an @miego real soon |
| 22:41:22 | _MAX_ | ah |
| 22:41:34 | _MAX_ | dont know if its working or not |
| 22:42:11 | xyu | i have fm working on ipaq.. |
| 22:42:13 | xyu | woohoo |
| 22:42:21 | |pariah| | 12yea im scars to be the first |
| 22:42:31 | |pariah| | 12*scared |
| 22:42:47 | blakangel | cool |
| 22:43:06 | _MAX_ | hehe |
| 22:43:25 | _MAX_ | look at my i try to get back to wince and i guess i turn it into a brick |
| 22:45:08 | xyu | anyone tried vnc on the ipaq ? |
| 22:45:27 | |pariah| | 12how many bootlds are there?is bootblaster the only one? there must be others right? |
| 22:46:32 | blakangel | nope |
| 22:46:38 | blakangel | i dunno |
| 22:53:08 | Arondylos | hi all, I've now got a real verified fam 0.5 on my ipaq... I still can't find a trace of ssh :-( |
| 22:53:34 | _MAX_ | in 0.5 ssh is not default installed |
| 22:53:44 | _MAX_ | did you only made a minimum install |
| 22:54:14 | Arondylos | I dont really know, I got the task-bootstrap on it. |
| 22:54:20 | _MAX_ | blakangel: i got it up and running again :-) |
| 22:54:32 | _MAX_ | Arondylos: ok then you only got the minimum |
| 22:54:36 | Arondylos | After setting up the ppp connection via serial, how can I login to do work if not via ssh? |
| 22:54:38 | _MAX_ | do you got wireless or? |
| 22:54:52 | Arondylos | just a serial cable |
| 22:54:54 | _MAX_ | do you got a windows host or linux? |
| 22:54:57 | Arondylos | linux |
| 22:55:00 | _MAX_ | ok |
| 22:55:04 | _MAX_ | you use minicom i guess |
| 22:55:07 | Arondylos | yep. |
| 22:55:38 | _MAX_ | ok |
| 22:55:58 | _MAX_ | then you have to download some packages onto you linux box |
| 22:56:14 | _MAX_ | just a sec i tell you, i did this 2 days ago :-) |
| 22:56:39 | Arondylos | The only thing that might be possible would be getting the ssh.deb from somewhere, start rz on the ipaq, exit minicom and then login via ppp, sz'ing the file to the hopefully still waiting rz. |
| 22:56:54 | _MAX_ | nono |
| 22:57:01 | Arondylos | no, actually its easier, i dont need ppp for rz sz |
| 22:57:06 | Arondylos | ok whats your idea? |
| 22:57:10 | _MAX_ | you dont have to leve |
| 22:57:13 | _MAX_ | just sec |
| 22:57:16 | Arondylos | np |
| 22:57:20 | _MAX_ | ftp://ftp.easynet.be/familiar/releases/v0.5/packages/armv4l |
| 22:57:27 | _MAX_ | download the followingfiles : |
| 22:57:49 | _MAX_ | libwrap0_7.6-7_arm.ipk |
| 22:58:01 | _MAX_ | libssl0.9.6_0.9.6a-1_arm.ipk |
| 22:58:27 | _MAX_ | ssh_2.5.2p2-2-fam4_arm.ipk |
| 22:58:27 | Arondylos | ok |
| 22:58:43 | _MAX_ | when you got those thre but it into a directory |
| 22:58:46 | Arondylos | ok |
| 22:58:51 | _MAX_ | i did it /home/ipaq/ |
| 22:59:02 | _MAX_ | then in minicom use ctr-a o |
| 22:59:07 | _MAX_ | to get into setup |
| 22:59:20 | Arondylos | ok, now what? |
| 22:59:26 | _MAX_ | the first menu point filenames and path... |
| 22:59:40 | _MAX_ | then set the A and B to /home/ipaq |
| 22:59:44 | _MAX_ | ok? |
| 22:59:48 | Arondylos | yep |
| 22:59:57 | _MAX_ | then colese this submenu |
| 23:00:02 | Arondylos | is this going to use rz on the ipaq? |
| 23:00:08 | _MAX_ | stop |
| 23:00:14 | _MAX_ | hold on a min |
| 23:00:19 | Arondylos | no problem |
| 23:00:20 | _MAX_ | go to another men |
| 23:00:32 | _MAX_ | the second file transfer protocols |
| 23:00:42 | Arondylos | are you going to use zmodem on minicom and rz on ipaq? |
| 23:00:53 | _MAX_ | yep |
| 23:01:03 | _MAX_ | is this clear |
| 23:01:08 | _MAX_ | make an rz on ipaq |
| 23:01:15 | _MAX_ | and then crtl-a s |
| 23:01:16 | Arondylos | ok, Ill try... ill be back in a sec |
| 23:01:20 | Arondylos | rest is clear |
| 23:01:22 | _MAX_ | in monicom and select the file |
| 23:01:32 | _MAX_ | then ipkg install filename |
| 23:01:38 | _MAX_ | install first the libs |
| 23:01:41 | _MAX_ | then the ssh |
| 23:01:47 | _MAX_ | it depends on those |
| 23:02:06 | _MAX_ | then you have tou touch the missin hostkey file and regenerate it |
| 23:02:27 | Arondylos | ok, wait a sec, I'm transferring now. |
| 23:03:35 | _MAX_ | ok |
| 23:03:38 | _MAX_ | i wair |
| 23:03:50 | Arondylos | I still need zlib1g, one sec |
| 23:04:46 | _MAX_ | k |
| 23:06:05 | Arondylos | still installing... (wow, the DSA host key generation takes ages) |
| 23:07:06 | Arondylos | now how do I regenerate /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key? |
| 23:07:49 | Arondylos | ok, sshd runs now. |
| 23:07:57 | _MAX_ | did you create it? |
| 23:08:00 | Arondylos | yep |
| 23:08:06 | _MAX_ | ssh-genkey i guess |
| 23:08:07 | _MAX_ | ok |
| 23:08:17 | _MAX_ | now you have to setup the ppp stuf |
| 23:08:19 | Arondylos | no, just create it. |
| 23:08:19 | _MAX_ | now you have to setup the ppp stuff |
| 23:08:27 | Arondylos | yep, I got this working already. |
| 23:08:51 | _MAX_ | ok now make masquerade on the machine and bang your on the internet |
| 23:08:56 | _MAX_ | which model you got? |
| 23:09:03 | Arondylos | 3760 |
| 23:09:18 | Arondylos | thanks, I can handle the rest, I think... thanks a lot. |
| 23:09:18 | _MAX_ | did you get pocketpc 2002 with it? |
| 23:09:26 | Arondylos | maybe the wiki should be updated |
| 23:09:27 | Arondylos | yep |
| 23:09:28 | _MAX_ | Arondylos: no problem |
| 23:09:42 | Arondylos | to tell the user he still has to use rz to transmit ssh |
| 23:09:43 | Arondylos | etc |
| 23:09:54 | _MAX_ | yep |
| 23:15:16 | _MAX_ | hi |
| 23:15:29 | a7r | hey.. |
| 23:15:54 | _MAX_ | whatsup |
| 23:16:08 | a7r | house cleaning. |
| 23:16:17 | _MAX_ | :-( |
| 23:34:59 | Arondylos | BTW, does anyone know why at the "familiar 0.5" instructions the task-bootstrap root image is linked, and later on, ssh is given as the means of logging back in to the ipaq, while ssh is not a part of the image? |
| 23:35:20 | Arondylos | could the next familiar revision maybe have ssh in its task-bootstrap? |
| 23:40:18 | boom | hello... |
| 23:42:06 | boom | anybody around? |
| 23:43:09 | sgodsell | No, no one is here ;) |
| 23:44:11 | sgodsell | So boom or bust. Do you have a problem? |
| 23:44:22 | sgodsell | Hey that is a stupid question |
| 23:44:38 | sgodsell | Anyone that comes on this channels always has problems ;) |
| 23:44:58 | sgodsell | s/channels/channel |
| 23:46:52 | banshee | buwhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaa |
| 23:47:31 | sgodsell | Hey its a screaming banshee everyone, look out |
| 23:47:39 | sgodsell | ;) |
| 23:47:48 | banshee | i don't have a problem... |
| 23:47:49 | banshee | yet... |
| 23:47:59 | banshee | don't have an ipaq yet either, waiting for that check to clear here |
| 23:48:07 | banshee | 3850 looking very do-able right now |
| 23:48:54 | sgodsell | Try and get the bluetooth one, just tell me that you will try and I will leave you alone on that issue :-) |
| 23:49:08 | banshee | heh |
| 23:49:42 | banshee | don't even know what the two places i'm planning on getting it from will have in |
| 23:49:49 | banshee | either way, can custom order one thru one of hte places |
| 23:53:01 | sgodsell | ;) |
| 23:54:25 | boom | what do you know? Signs of life ;_ |
| 23:56:49 | boom | I have an installation issue : Familiar 0.5: How do I talk to the ipaq after starting ppp? Serial doesn't work (obviously), and rlogin/telnet requests are not being honored... |
| 23:57:11 | banshee | is the mic turned on? |
| 23:59:17 | boom | mic? |
| 23:59:23 | banshee | microphone |
| 23:59:28 | banshee | if your trying to talk to it |
| 23:59:35 | banshee | can feel the smack coming.... |
| 23:59:48 | boom | :-> |