| 00:03:41 | tsawyer77 | trying to setup ppp from an iPAQ to win2k. after hitting continue from the ppp login I get an Error 777: bla bla bla remote modem is out of order. any ideas? |
| 00:43:54 | sjohnson | is away: party time. later |
| 01:28:55 | wsmith | 'lo!\ |
| 01:29:08 | Zoiah | TIMMEAH1 |
| 01:29:37 | wsmith | anyone "well-versed" in the ipaq installation? |
| 01:29:55 | wsmith | when i try to xmodem the bootldr/jiff to the ipaq. minicom gives me just .......................................... |
| 01:31:48 | Zoiah | wsmith: did you start the xmodem upload? |
| 01:31:58 | wsmith | yeah. |
| 01:32:13 | wsmith | minicom gave me that little noise . . . press space to continue |
| 01:32:17 | wsmith | and then the dots |
| 01:32:30 | Zoiah | wsmith: you should start the upload within 5 secs of typing "load xxx". |
| 01:32:34 | Zoiah | wsmith: otherwise it won't work. |
| 01:32:41 | wsmith | 5 sec!!!??! |
| 01:32:41 | Zoiah | You have to be real quick. |
| 01:32:46 | wsmith | lemme give this a shot . .. |
| 01:33:42 | Zoiah | I try to be get it within 5 secs... it may be longer but that's my max. :) |
| 01:34:28 | wsmith | does minicom do anything to let me know the d/l is working? |
| 01:34:40 | Zoiah | Yeap |
| 01:34:45 | Zoiah | It gives a progress meter |
| 01:36:50 | wsmith | ok. i gotta tweak my fingers . ; ) |
| 01:37:08 | Zoiah | :) |
| 01:37:18 | wsmith | is there a short cut to xmodem (not alt-s)? |
| 01:40:17 | wsmith | dumb q: when minicom chirps and sais READY: press enter to continue .. . should i do that, because the box dissapears |
| 01:41:07 | Zoiah | That means the transfer is complete. |
| 01:41:11 | Zoiah | But you didn't get a progress meter? |
| 01:41:15 | wsmith | nope |
| 01:41:22 | wsmith | and then the dots came |
| 01:41:24 | Zoiah | Then it means something went wrong. :) |
| 01:41:28 | wsmith | hehe |
| 01:42:48 | wsmith | grrr |
| 01:47:31 | wsmith | time to go to seyon ; ) |
| 01:58:50 | wsmith | xmodem is refusing to work! |
| 01:59:08 | Zoiah | That's... bad. |
| 01:59:30 | Zoiah | no problems after he realized your should do the xmodem upload command within a couple of secs. |
| 01:59:45 | Zoiah | Once that was fixed I uploaded everything (bootldr/root/etc.) without any problems. |
| 02:00:00 | wsmith | i got in 5 sec's |
| 02:00:07 | wsmith | imma try hyperterminal |
| 02:03:52 | wsmith | it's going HAHAHAHA!!! |
| 02:05:29 | wsmith | i'll be back if i have any more problems. thanks! |
| 03:01:34 | wsmith | i'm baa-aack |
| 03:02:01 | wsmith | i've just got this groovy installation, and X is on it's way, but how do i access my CF card? |
| 06:36:48 | beeblebrox | is back (gone 16:17:39) |
| 08:35:55 | DragonEagle | is away: good night and happy new year |
| 11:52:52 | Kand-ALF | happy new year |
| 16:56:44 | Kero | whoever made ipkg-build, fakeroot runs it on my PC, but didn't run it on skiff 3... |
| 16:56:59 | Kero | Guess I should bug france about fakeroot, now, too :) |
| 16:57:32 | Kero | Or setup the complete Xcompiling stuff on my PC... |
| 16:57:44 | Kero | ...and pray all packages like to be Xcompiled... |
| 16:58:02 | Kero | ...Ruby probably won't :( |
| 18:16:55 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 09:40:58) |
| 18:34:04 | bipolar | is back (gone 20:42:30) |
| 18:42:45 | SleepingDragon | is away: bbas |
| 21:08:18 | EGg0 | is away: running to check the kiln, brb |
| 21:09:04 | EGg0 | is back (gone 00:00:46) |
| 21:17:25 | EGg0 | is away: taking care of pottery business... |
| 21:52:54 | EGg0 | is away: pottery business again. |
| 22:09:16 | Kero | a7r: I am wondering why ipkg won't install tcl 8.3.4-1 from my feed over 8.3.3-1 from the familiar feed |
| 22:09:35 | Kero | thinks he has set up everything OK, but probably hasn't |
| 22:24:04 | wsmith | after doing the initial install, it ran ipkg install pending and then ipkg install task-complete |
| 22:24:25 | wsmith | bout halfway through, the thing locked up and my ppp connection died |
| 22:24:40 | wsmith | went into minicom, and i was getting errors from the flash driver |
| 22:24:51 | wsmith | is this at all normal? |
| 22:24:59 | wsmith | is there any way to test my flash? |
| 22:25:09 | Kero | doesn't sound normal... |
| 22:25:19 | Kero | Can you paste one of those errors? |
| 22:25:59 | wsmith | sorry. i lost that terminal. i'll get one, though. |
| 22:26:29 | banshee | thinks he has everything setup right..... but actually... is just waiting for the entire thing to come crashing down in a few seconds next time he touches it |
| 22:28:25 | wsmith | what is jiffs? |
| 22:29:22 | Kero | jiffies or jffs? |
| 22:29:32 | wsmith | jiffs the filesystem |
| 22:29:51 | Kero | jffs2, journalling flash file system 2 |
| 22:31:33 | wsmith | my bad. i was reading some docs earlier. are the changes i make permanent? i read about /etc being volatile and having to recreate the filesystem everytim i wanted to make a change permanent |
| 22:32:39 | Kero | ho, which version are you trying to install? |
| 22:32:51 | wsmith | 0.5.1 |
| 22:33:13 | Kero | a7r: got it. When the same package is on >1 feeds, it just takes the version in the toplisted feed in /etc/ipkg.conf. badbad! |
| 22:33:51 | Kero | wsmith: 0.5.1 uses jffs2 for almost everything. |
| 22:34:05 | Kero | only /tmp and /var are put in ramfs. |
| 22:34:24 | wsmith | ooh. that's cool |
| 22:34:25 | EGg0_studio | is back (gone 00:41:31) |
| 22:34:33 | wsmith | can i format my CF card with jffs2? |
| 22:34:56 | Kero | wsmith: I think so. |
| 22:35:10 | banshee | Kero: so anything at all put on mtdblock/1 mounted on / will be retained? |
| 22:35:49 | Kero | banshee: yes |
| 22:37:01 | bipolar | wsmith: JFFS@ can only be used on mtd devices. CF cards show up as ide I think. |
| 22:37:09 | banshee | Kero: and does jffs have those like.. periodic brain dead times like ext2 does alot and not read freespace correctly sometimes w/ df? |
| 22:37:43 | wsmith | oic. what fs should i use on the CF? |
| 22:38:02 | Kero | banshee: not that I know of. Though mostly I experienced ext2 trouble, some file handle turned out to be open while the file was already thrown away. |
| 22:38:11 | wsmith | hmm... dead as a doornail |
| 22:38:54 | Kero | bipolar: oops. Should keep my mouth shut about things I do not know or hardware I don't have :) |
| 22:39:04 | banshee | Kero: heh, was wondering, free space in df is showing 14 meg, while, got a 20meg /usr, and nothing under that mounted elsewhere |
| 22:39:25 | wsmith | can i dump an error here? |
| 22:39:39 | Kero | wsmith: if it is short, sure. |
| 22:39:53 | Kero | banshee: jffs2 compresses as well. |
| 22:39:55 | wsmith | i'll just do parts |
| 22:40:15 | Kero | banshee: or perhaps I misunderstand you... |
| 22:40:17 | wsmith | Downloading http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.5/packages/armv4l/./xfonts-75dpi_4.0.2-13-fam1_all.ipk ... |
| 22:40:17 | wsmith | --05:55:09-- http://familiar.handhelds.org:80/familiar/releases/v0.5/packages/armv4l/xfonts-75dpi_4.0.2-13-fam1_all.ipk |
| 22:40:17 | wsmith | => `//tmp/ipkg/xfonts-75dpi_4.0.2-13-fam1_all.ipk' |
| 22:40:17 | wsmith | Connecting to familiar.handhelds.org:80... connected! |
| 22:40:17 | wsmith | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK |
| 22:40:19 | wsmith | Length: 179,587 [text/plain] |
| 22:40:30 | wsmith | \//tmp/ipkg/xfonts-75dpi_4.0.2-13-fam1_all.ipk: Input/output error |
| 22:40:38 | wsmith | //tmp/ipkg/xfonts-75dpi_4.0.2-13-fam1_all.ipk: Input/output error |
| 22:41:38 | Kero | wsmith: is your /tmp mounted properly? |
| 22:41:43 | wsmith | and the thing locked up like an nt box running java |
| 22:41:47 | wsmith | i did other packages |
| 22:41:55 | banshee | Kero: basically.. df -h is showing 18megs used 14 megs used on the onboard flash, yet, my /usr directory alone is 20 megs, another bout 2 megs in stuff i was fscking w/ in /root, little more than 2meg between bin and /sbin |
| 22:41:57 | Kero | erm, linked |
| 22:42:11 | Kero | wsmith: and /mnt/ramfs mounted. |
| 22:42:46 | wsmith | Kero: yes |
| 22:43:02 | Kero | banshee: 18+2+2+14 > 20, you mean |
| 22:43:35 | Kero | wsmith: /tmp/ipkg/ exists? |
| 22:43:57 | banshee | Kero: well, 3+20+2 > 18 |
| 22:45:34 | wsmith | Kero: yes |
| 22:45:52 | wsmith | and nothing is full |
| 22:46:44 | Kero | remembers someone complaining earlier today not all packages were in place properly on the handhelds server. |
| 22:47:01 | Kero | So far I see no flash error... |
| 22:47:09 | wsmith | i didn't get it this time |
| 22:49:14 | Kero | banshee: 20 MB of file uses less than 20 MB, due to compression. |
| 22:49:33 | wsmith | i reset and it's going again, but this is the third reset for ipkg install task_complete |
| 22:49:41 | Kero | wsmith: then I can not help you much more, I'm afraid. |
| 22:49:55 | Kero | rerunning an `ipkg install` does not hurt, at least. |
| 22:50:47 | wsmith | kew. if i get it again, i'll be sure to paste it in |
| 22:53:22 | wsmith | what fs should i put on my cf card? |
| 22:55:35 | wsmith | how do i change my password/add new users? |
| 22:56:37 | Kero | wsmith: no change of passwd... |
| 22:56:47 | Kero | new users should be added by hand, but nobody ever does that. |
| 22:57:11 | banshee | looks at his /etc/passwd w/o rootme as root's passwd, and 2 new users... .. .. |
| 22:57:15 | wsmith | i see. so the work in security is still in progress |
| 22:58:10 | Kero | wsmith: hardly |
| 22:58:25 | wsmith | i'm just excited to have linux on my ipaq. |
| 22:58:28 | banshee | you can piece together like useradd, passwd and that from the debian arm distrib website |
| 23:01:26 | wsmith | looks like my ppp connection keeps dying |
| 23:01:41 | wsmith | Chip not ready for buffer write. Xstatus = 280028, status = a800a8 Write of 1381 bytes at 0x005d0fb8 failed. returned 0, retlen 0 Not marking the space at 0x005d0fb8 as dirty because the flash driver returned oError writing new dnode: -5 |
| 23:01:48 | wsmith | thats the error |
| 23:02:56 | wsmith | it's flooding my com port |
| 23:03:07 | banshee | do you have sshd running on it w/ a nic? |
| 23:11:47 | EGg0_studio | is away: dinner, studio, sleep, studio, studio, studio. |
| 23:24:41 | Kero | wsmith: dunno what causes it or how bad it is. You may want to ask dwmw2 on the #handhelds.org channel. |
| 23:30:00 | wsmith | Kero: thanks\ |
| 23:32:12 | bipolar | is away: I'm away.... |