| 00:00:12 | zwelch | From what I have learned, familiar has not been adapted for any other handheld platforms aside from the iPaq. Is this still the case or are there other platforms on the way? |
| 00:24:45 | phlegm | I have qtopia and familiar .5. Can somebody tell me what /dev/ device is used on the ipaq for ppp? |
| 00:25:13 | Kand-ALF | depends on what you want to do |
| 00:25:27 | Kand-ALF | it's /dev/ttySA0 for the cradle |
| 00:25:41 | Kand-ALF | and /dev/ircomm0 for the IrDA port |
| 00:25:53 | Kand-ALF | I have it both synchronize with Qtopia Desktop here |
| 00:26:09 | phlegm | I can set up a ppp connection without problems and have maquerading and all that set up and working fine. I'm trying to get the qtopia desktop to connect and am fiddling with the gui config in qtopia for setting up ppp. |
| 00:26:28 | Kand-ALF | well, if you have an ip connection and you can ping |
| 00:26:38 | Kand-ALF | then you only need to make sure the ip's are correct |
| 00:26:48 | phlegm | Kand-ALF: Dis you use the supplied /etc/ppp/peer/pda and winchat scripts? |
| 00:26:48 | Kand-ALF | and the correct setting is used in Qtopiadesktop |
| 00:26:53 | Kand-ALF | no |
| 00:26:56 | Kand-ALF | I do it manually |
| 00:27:02 | Kand-ALF | er |
| 00:27:05 | Kand-ALF | no |
| 00:27:10 | Kand-ALF | I'm using those scripts |
| 00:27:16 | Kand-ALF | but I assign the IP address in it |
| 00:27:30 | phlegm | If I connect manually first and then fire up the desktop it just kills my connection and then starts trying over and over to reconnect. |
| 00:27:36 | Kand-ALF | 192.168.1.200:192.168.1.201 |
| 00:27:46 | Kand-ALF | well |
| 00:27:55 | Kand-ALF | rename the pda script to ipaq |
| 00:27:55 | phlegm | hrmmm I was using 101... sec... |
| 00:28:01 | Kand-ALF | and do a pppd call ipaq |
| 00:29:02 | phlegm | can you paste your ipaq script? |
| 00:29:16 | kand|bedtime | just add the ip numbers |
| 00:29:20 | kand|bedtime | at the bottom |
| 00:29:29 | phlegm | LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests |
| 00:29:29 | phlegm | Connection terminated. |
| 00:29:42 | kand|bedtime | you have to establish the connection with |
| 00:29:53 | kand|bedtime | pppd defaultroute usepeerdns on the ipaq side |
| 00:30:10 | kand|bedtime | or just use the right ip's in qtopiadesktop |
| 00:30:17 | kand|bedtime | and let it call up the ipaq itself |
| 00:30:26 | kand|bedtime | or |
| 00:30:37 | kand|bedtime | if you have an ip already without qtopiadesktop running |
| 00:30:40 | kand|bedtime | and that works for you |
| 00:30:47 | kand|bedtime | then just rename the pda script to ipaq |
| 00:30:58 | kand|bedtime | and call it up by pppd call ipaq |
| 00:31:08 | kand|bedtime | that should do the trick |
| 00:31:28 | kand|bedtime | then start qtopiadesktop, make sure ip's are ok in the configuration and it should work |
| 00:32:05 | kand|bedtime | gnite |
| 00:32:34 | phlegm | thanks.. I'll keep playing. |
| 01:16:08 | Annirak | Anyone know the MC68HC12 Eval board well? |
| 02:10:54 | Annirak | is away: I'm busy |
| 02:28:57 | Annirak | is back (gone 00:18:04) |
| 02:32:00 | zwelch | Are any developers working on putting Familiar on handheld platforms other than the iPaq? I saw the interview with Alex in which he said that he would welcome such development, but I am curious how many platform developers have expressed committed interest. I'm asking as a kernel developer evaluating Familiar to see if it would be suitable for part of a Linux alternative for an already shipping Windows CE StrongARM handheld. |
| 02:32:54 | jacques | i know pp lare running familiar on tuxscreens |
| 02:38:18 | MonMotha | my friend just got a jornada, I believe he said he'd be willing to try it out if there was an easy way to go back to WinCE when he's done |
| 02:38:26 | MonMotha | dunno what HP's position on that is though |
| 02:38:54 | jacques | well it would beed a bootloader |
| 02:39:09 | jacques | and hp has not given out enough information to write one AFAIK |
| 02:39:25 | zwelch | HP won't either.... their tight with their IP |
| 02:42:44 | MonMotha | well, why you think I bought from Compaq and not HP? :) |
| 02:42:50 | MonMotha | though aren't they now the same company? |
| 02:42:59 | jacques | heh, merger is in trouble |
| 02:43:15 | MonMotha | Hewlett Paqard is no more? :) |
| 02:43:27 | jacques | not dead, but in trouble |
| 02:43:41 | MonMotha | ah |
| 02:43:44 | MonMotha | heh |
| 02:44:02 | MonMotha | I made it abundantly clear to compaq on my reg card that I bought it because it ran linux |
| 02:44:14 | MonMotha | hopefully they'll get enough of those kinds of things to continue support |
| 02:45:36 | jacques | yeah |
| 02:49:57 | MonMotha | anyone want my ipaq wallpaper I made? first one I did |
| 02:57:36 | banshee | ? |
| 02:57:46 | MonMotha | I made a 240x320 wallpaper :) |
| 02:57:52 | MonMotha | I think it looks ok |
| 02:58:19 | banshee | made a few of them here, mostly from modding normal wallpaper and scaling it down or clipping it |
| 02:58:40 | MonMotha | http://monmothas.shacknet.nu/ipaq/bg/bg1.png |
| 02:59:00 | MonMotha | that's mine, made using the GIMP (and an image found using google, the little starship part) |
| 02:59:14 | MonMotha | based off my normal desktop starscapes like I use on my desktop |
| 02:59:35 | banshee | hmmm, looks kinda like something out of efc |
| 02:59:44 | MonMotha | I'm thinking I might make an iPAQ wallpaper area ala themes.org |
| 02:59:47 | MonMotha | efc? |
| 02:59:54 | banshee | earth: final conflict |
| 03:00:31 | MonMotha | oh, dunno |
| 03:01:18 | banshee | have a few posted up on my site here, http://ban.dnsalias.org/wallpaper/ |
| 03:01:36 | banshee | mostly like scaled down ones from desktop wallpapers |
| 03:02:17 | MonMotha | what'd you make em in? |
| 03:02:33 | banshee | gipm |
| 03:02:38 | banshee | err |
| 03:02:38 | banshee | gimp |
| 03:02:50 | banshee | mostly scaled them down from other ones, few i made from scratch |
| 03:02:50 | banshee | very very few |
| 03:02:53 | Annirak | Anyone know the MC68HC12 Eval board well? |
| 03:03:10 | MonMotha | how'd you make the penguins? |
| 03:03:31 | MonMotha | same way ewing did? |
| 03:03:52 | banshee | penguins? |
| 03:04:00 | MonMotha | in the top two linux backgrounds |
| 03:04:07 | MonMotha | you might be a bit lagged :) |
| 03:04:29 | banshee | those are just one's i found somewhere |
| 03:04:32 | MonMotha | oh |
| 03:04:52 | banshee | where there's a 320x link below the thumbnail it links to the ipaq directory in wallpaper, if i had a chance to make a version for the ipaq yet then the link will work |
| 03:05:20 | MonMotha | k |
| 03:05:54 | banshee | you can check in /wallpaper/ipaq, that's where i'm dumping them to, don't have an index blind up in front of them yet, till i can make some thumbnails for them |
| 03:07:38 | MonMotha | you like starcraft? |
| 03:07:56 | banshee | heh, used to play it alot on bnet, barely got time anymore for even a single player game in wine |
| 03:08:06 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 03:08:16 | MonMotha | I'm good though, can get 10 zealots out faster than Insane AI |
| 03:08:26 | banshee | got a nice few there, including the image from the "secret" level in the protoss campaign |
| 03:08:43 | banshee | i perfer zerg, unless i'm seriously playing, then its all about the protoss cannons |
| 03:08:59 | MonMotha | cannons are easy...nuke |
| 03:09:00 | banshee | can get three lurkers under a terran base before they can make a marine swarm |
| 03:09:10 | MonMotha | that's or seige tank |
| 03:09:17 | MonMotha | either way, cannon can't shoot that far |
| 03:09:30 | banshee | yea, but their fast to drop in, and land and air fire |
| 03:09:47 | MonMotha | oh yeah, they're the most powerful stationry unit in the game |
| 03:09:48 | banshee | not a good permanent defense, but a good front line to bring your air carriers over |
| 03:10:03 | MonMotha | and then with dark archons, you can get the other two races if you're good with an arbiter |
| 03:11:01 | Annirak | NOOO not carriers... It's all about the dragoons |
| 03:11:02 | banshee | yea, have zerg do all your ecnomy, terrains for battle cruisers, and air carriers for mopping up and air cover for your cruisers |
| 03:11:18 | Annirak | Carriers target too slowly |
| 03:11:29 | Annirak | They get roasted by a good corsair attack |
| 03:11:50 | Annirak | Or valkyries Or devourers |
| 03:11:55 | banshee | their a good defensive force though, especially agaist human players, hard to micromanage in a swarm of 5 air carriers w/ full fleets |
| 03:12:16 | Annirak | I've taken out more than that with 12 corsairs |
| 03:12:26 | Annirak | When they were set up to defend |
| 03:13:10 | Annirak | Even with an arbiter to cloak the carriers, they just don't have the survivability to cost ratio |
| 03:17:57 | Annirak | I will say, though, that in large groups, carriers are devastating to any land formation |
| 03:18:21 | banshee | yea, saw a dozen of them massacre a zerg colony that had three rings of spore colonies around it |
| 03:19:36 | Annirak | Yeah, the ai for the colonies picks up the interceptors instead of the carriers, so because you can't select a group of buildings, targeting the carrier is a hopless cause |
| 03:20:08 | banshee | yea i know, the carriers were in and out before i could get my wraiths in there |
| 03:20:30 | banshee | it practically kicked the one dude out of the game |
| 03:20:54 | Annirak | Gotta hate it when that happens unless it's you doing the kicking |
| 03:21:11 | banshee | yea, ended up being a 2 hour game of bgh |
| 03:21:21 | Annirak | If you know that there's a carrier rush coming, splash anti air is the way to go |
| 03:21:24 | banshee | they kept kicking our asses, but we just kept coming back |
| 03:21:29 | Annirak | lol |
| 03:21:34 | Annirak | I know that feeling |
| 03:22:20 | banshee | ended up being, they had our original base, but we took over part of their secondary area's, just, i play scorched earth, so we were gaining past them economically, it was just keeping enough hatcheries and star ports up and running |
| 03:22:46 | Annirak | heh |
| 03:22:48 | Annirak | Man |
| 03:22:51 | Annirak | that gets tough |
| 03:23:06 | banshee | only thing that had us holding onto the game was our massive wraith/muta attacks |
| 03:23:17 | Annirak | Nice |
| 03:23:31 | Annirak | They were hitting you with carriers only? |
| 03:23:49 | banshee | carriers, assorted units from the other species |
| 03:24:11 | banshee | it was two of those people that the only way they win games is to rush w/ air carriers as fast as possible |
| 03:24:14 | banshee | then just sweep thru |
| 03:24:40 | Annirak | Hmm I still think that a good 2 squads of splash air could have helped a lot |
| 03:25:11 | banshee | the thing that really helped, massacreing their zerg and terran populations, it was like 400 unit cap vs 1200 unit cap |
| 03:25:50 | Annirak | You know what gets really fun? Team melee |
| 03:26:16 | Annirak | Try playing protoss with an 800 supply cap |
| 03:28:31 | banshee | damn |
| 03:28:47 | banshee | the way i'd play, end up w/ plenty of resources, just not enough units |
| 03:28:52 | banshee | couldn't spend fast enough |
| 03:30:20 | Annirak | Thats where it gets cool. Remember that it's a team melee |
| 03:30:29 | Annirak | The other people can build |
| 03:44:28 | MonMotha | team games are FUN |
| 03:44:37 | MonMotha | especially if you start out with all 3 races |
| 03:45:59 | MonMotha | you've got hoardes of zerglings, ultralisks, hydralisks, and lurkers converging on them from the ground (maybe some infested terrans too since you can infest your own stuff), carriers w/ arbiters and scouts from the sky (of course an observer or two), dark templar from the ground, firebats and wraiths on the ground, maybe a few nukes dropping too |
| 03:46:01 | MonMotha | all at once :) |
| 03:50:26 | sgodsell | is back (gone 24:34:43) |
| 04:21:57 | me112 | I have a dumb newbie question, anybody have a minute? |
| 04:31:19 | EGg0 | is away: Bedtime for bonzo. |
| 04:31:27 | beeblebrox | is back (gone 12:21:39) |
| 04:59:23 | sgodsell | is away: bbt |
| 07:26:11 | statesman | i can't find sshd in 0.5.1-pre2, where is it? |
| 07:40:03 | Jacmet | tarzeau: I'm coding one right now (actually hacking on the sources of bbkeys, but it seems to be working) |
| 07:40:08 | Jacmet | damn, wce :/ |
| 08:11:51 | mark_ | Hi all. I know why my CF card isn't being mounted at run time - the module for ext2 hasn't been loaded at the mount stage. what to do? |
| 08:28:48 | mark_ | is away: school |
| 09:34:45 | Jacmet | anyone successfully compiled xstroke on the skiffcluster? |
| 09:52:21 | Jacmet | brush.c:157: `PictOpConjointOverReverse' undeclared (first use in this function) <- anyone know anything about this (xstroke) |
| 10:59:32 | mindfsck | i just installed 0.5.1 - and now ppp doesn't work anymore ;-( |
| 10:59:52 | mindfsck | it says "Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: |
| 11:00:03 | mindfsck | Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0" |
| 11:44:00 | Kand-ALF | anyone who has icq for a quick test ? |
| 11:44:24 | beeblebrox | Kand-ALF: yea |
| 11:55:14 | mark_ | Sorry for the repeat, but - I know why my CF card isn't being mounted at run time - the module for ext2 hasn't been loaded at the mount stage. what to do about this? |
| 11:56:00 | beeblebrox | mark_: i think it should get loaded automatically. |
| 12:00:20 | mark_ | beeblebrox: hmm, its not |
| 12:00:20 | mark_ | cardmgr[103]: executing: './ide start hda' |
| 12:00:20 | mark_ | hda: bad special flag: 0x03 |
| 12:00:22 | mark_ | does that mean anything? |
| 12:00:29 | beeblebrox | mark_: try manually mounting it. |
| 12:00:45 | Kand-ALF | cf card in pcmcia adapter ? |
| 12:00:46 | Kand-ALF | :) |
| 12:00:48 | Kand-ALF | have fun :) |
| 12:00:49 | mark_ | nope |
| 12:00:50 | beeblebrox | mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda -t ext2 |
| 12:01:08 | mark_ | Kand-ALF: cf card in the cf sleeve |
| 12:01:35 | Kand-ALF | the ide driver always causes kinda problems |
| 12:01:35 | mark_ | beeblebrox: that works fine, but the module is already loaded coz i've put it in /etc/modules |
| 12:01:52 | mark_ | ide0: unexpected interrupt, status=0x00, count=1 |
| 12:01:54 | mark_ | i get that as well |
| 12:01:56 | mpakula | mark_: it won't mount auto.. unless u specify it in cf modules ( sorry can't remember where) |
| 12:02:25 | Kand-ALF | well, once he got it working manually he could use ide.opts |
| 12:02:47 | mark_ | mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda -t ext2 works perfectly, but when i suspend it looses it and its not brought back up |
| 12:03:03 | mpakula | Kand-ALF: that is the one yeah thanks |
| 12:03:16 | beeblebrox | mark_: what is your ide.opts? |
| 12:03:44 | mark_ | beeblebrox: I haven't touched it. the default |
| 12:04:13 | beeblebrox | mark_: you need to edit it :) |
| 12:04:42 | Kand-ALF | hehe |
| 12:04:49 | Kand-ALF | just upgraded to hh11 |
| 12:04:54 | Kand-ALF | smooth |
| 12:05:00 | mark_ | edited that file |
| 12:05:22 | mpakula | Kand-ALF: yup nice thing huh ? |
| 12:05:30 | mark_ | INFO="Sample IDE setup" |
| 12:05:30 | mark_ | DO_FSTAB="y" ; DO_FSCK="y" ; DO_MOUNT="y" |
| 12:05:30 | mark_ | FSTYPE="ext2" |
| 12:05:30 | mark_ | #OPTS="" |
| 12:05:30 | mark_ | MOUNTPT="/mnt/" |
| 12:05:32 | mark_ | that right? |
| 12:07:26 | Kand-ALF | mpakula: sure :) |
| 12:07:38 | Kand-ALF | now upgrading qpe again |
| 12:07:57 | Kand-ALF | bipolar_away doesn't get it yet with rebuilding only new stuff :)) |
| 12:09:11 | beeblebrox | mark_: you mounting it in /mnt ? |
| 12:09:31 | mark_ | beeblebrox: no, that was a mistake. :) |
| 12:09:43 | Kand-ALF | :) |
| 12:10:01 | mark_ | but its still not working. grrr |
| 12:10:19 | beeblebrox | mark_: there was another change that i made... dont remember now. |
| 12:10:52 | mark_ | beeblebrox: :( hehe |
| 12:11:25 | beeblebrox | actually someone had sent me a working ide.opts.... :) |
| 12:11:55 | mark_ | beeblebrox: i've got it working. forgot to uncomment PARTS="1" |
| 12:12:10 | beeblebrox | mark_: yea, that was it :) |
| 12:12:15 | mark_ | now to reboot. do I still need the entry in /etc/fstab? |
| 12:13:21 | mark_ | and then to write a little how-to for wicky........ |
| 12:13:44 | beeblebrox | wiki |
| 12:14:12 | mark_ | beeblebrox: yeh, thats the one. my memory just work phonetically :) |
| 12:15:44 | mark_ | oh, btw, anyone used qpe-quake? |
| 12:18:26 | Kand-ALF | beeblebrox: my icq seems to work |
| 12:18:34 | Kand-ALF | I've tested it with friends from kde just now |
| 12:19:02 | beeblebrox | Kand-ALF: cool... i guess i should upgrade to 1.04 |
| 12:42:02 | statesman | anyone have dump_cis compiled for the arm? |
| 12:45:22 | Kand-ALF | hmm |
| 12:45:39 | Kand-ALF | does anyoen have an idea for a ramdisk on the ipaq similar to the zaurus ? |
| 12:47:53 | liquidx | hello - does anyone know where pypaq went in familiar 0.5.1 ? |
| 12:47:54 | bipolar_away | is back (gone 12:57:45) |
| 12:48:08 | bipolar_away | Kand-ALF: What are you saying about me? ;) |
| 12:48:21 | bipolar_away | is not really here.... |
| 12:48:33 | Kand-ALF | hehe |
| 12:48:42 | Kand-ALF | well, I just mentioned your build system :)) |
| 12:48:53 | bipolar_away | Kand-ALF: what build system? :) |
| 12:48:53 | Kand-ALF | I just upgraded to bp8 |
| 12:48:56 | Kand-ALF | haha |
| 12:49:02 | Kand-ALF | well, if you can describe it as such |
| 12:49:04 | Kand-ALF | btw |
| 12:49:09 | Kand-ALF | the konsole is updated in CVS |
| 12:49:09 | bipolar_away | Kand-ALF: I do it all by hand.... |
| 12:49:19 | bipolar_away | Kand-ALF: Yeah. It's in my feed. |
| 12:49:22 | Kand-ALF | already ? |
| 12:49:27 | Kand-ALF | or just now ? |
| 12:49:40 | bipolar_away | Yes. I built that feed yesterday right after the CVS changes. |
| 12:49:40 | Kand-ALF | I upgraded half an hour ago |
| 12:49:46 | Kand-ALF | cool |
| 12:49:48 | Kand-ALF | now |
| 12:50:01 | Kand-ALF | how do we get a ramdisk for installations ? |
| 12:50:06 | Kand-ALF | if the rom is exceeded ? |
| 12:51:01 | Kand-ALF | on the Z they have a 10 meg ramdisk |
| 12:51:09 | Kand-ALF | to install applications to RAM |
| 12:51:39 | Kand-ALF | and the stuff is still there after a reboot |
| 12:51:43 | bipolar_away | Kand-ALF: You should have a tabed window for your term so that you can open more then one. |
| 12:51:44 | mark_ | Kand-ALF: yeh, you can have a ramfs |
| 12:51:44 | bipolar_away | hmmm... time for a shower.... |
| 12:51:44 | mark_ | anyone have a solution for: usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=61 (error=-110) |
| 12:51:45 | Kand-ALF | only a hard reset deletes that |
| 12:52:02 | Kand-ALF | cool |
| 12:52:25 | mark_ | how can it not go when its rebooted? |
| 12:53:13 | liquidx | mark_: emm .. you trying usb-networking ? |
| 12:53:30 | Kand-ALF | yes, I have those tabs |
| 12:55:30 | mark_ | liquidx: yeh, it works prefectly apart from that |
| 12:55:30 | liquidx | mark_: that happens after you suspend - everytime you suspend, you need to unload the usb-eth module and then on resume you ifup the interface |
| 12:55:30 | liquidx | only figured it out a few hours ago :) |
| 12:55:30 | mark_ | liquidx: you do that in a script? |
| 12:55:30 | mark_ | i'm doing it manually atm |
| 12:55:30 | liquidx | mark_: yeah - i put a script in /etc/resume-scripts and /etc/suspend-scripts |
| 12:55:30 | liquidx | that just does someting like : ifdown usbf; modprobe -r usb-eth |
| 12:55:30 | liquidx | for suspend |
| 12:55:44 | Kand-ALF | mark_: that is the magic question :) |
| 12:55:49 | mark_ | liquidx: S40usbnet or so mething? |
| 12:55:51 | Kand-ALF | Disconnec-: where's your t ? :) |
| 12:57:13 | liquidx | mark_: yeah - i put mine as S50 and R50 |
| 12:57:30 | liquidx | don't think it really matters tho |
| 12:58:43 | mark_ | do I need to remove the usbcore module too? |
| 13:03:41 | mark_ | grr, just frozen my console |
| 13:04:15 | liquidx | hmm .. not good |
| 13:04:25 | liquidx | emm .. no .. you should only need to unload the usb-eth driver |
| 13:04:37 | liquidx | s/driver/module/ |
| 13:05:52 | mark_ | okay |
| 13:06:07 | mark_ | grr, my scripts aren't being run |
| 13:07:35 | liquidx | chmod 755 ? |
| 13:07:53 | mark_ | they need to be 755 do they? |
| 13:08:24 | liquidx | well - at least executable |
| 13:09:10 | mark_ | oh thats got it |
| 13:09:20 | mark_ | right, lets plug my usb in and see how its gone :) |
| 13:09:37 | liquidx | good luck .. |
| 13:10:03 | mark_ | i can't boot with the usb in can i? |
| 13:10:52 | mark_ | waits anxiously for his ipaq to boot |
| 13:10:55 | liquidx | hehe .. you can - just add the resume-script you wrote to /etc/init.d and then put a link to it in /etc/rc2.d |
| 13:11:16 | mark_ | wow you are full of good ideas :) |
| 13:11:29 | liquidx | hehe .. i'm still experimenting like you are :) |
| 13:12:08 | liquidx | hmm .. i'm trying to get rid of as much as possible on the ipaq - but no matter how hard i try, i still have less than 3MB free |
| 13:12:34 | mark_ | liquidx: grr, still getting the 'not accepting new address' error. wonder why..... |
| 13:13:26 | liquidx | so you rebooted the ipaq, and then plugged it into the usb slot? |
| 13:13:40 | mark_ | yeh |
| 13:13:43 | mark_ | and it was fine |
| 13:13:46 | mark_ | so i suspended it |
| 13:13:55 | mark_ | bought it up again, and 'dmesg' on the hold gives that error still |
| 13:14:20 | liquidx | hmm .. does ifup and ifdown work properly for you ? i had to set it up before it worked for me (in /etc/network/interfaces) |
| 13:14:37 | mark_ | i did a 'ifconfig usbf down' instead. |
| 13:14:54 | mark_ | watching the suspend/resume process through minicom and a serial cradle it looks fine |
| 13:15:01 | mark_ | usbctl: Stopped |
| 13:15:02 | mark_ | usbctl: Closed |
| 13:15:02 | mark_ | Unloading SA1100 USB Controller |
| 13:15:16 | mark_ | then on resuming: |
| 13:15:18 | mark_ | SA1100 USB Controller Core Initialized |
| 13:15:18 | mark_ | usbctl: Opened for usb-eth |
| 13:15:18 | mark_ | usbctl: Started for usb-eth |
| 13:15:26 | liquidx | hmm |
| 13:15:48 | mark_ | lets disable the resume script and see what state is in after suspending |
| 13:15:56 | liquidx | good idea |
| 13:17:43 | mark_ | no usbf up, usb-eth gone |
| 13:17:50 | mark_ | which is how it should be.... |
| 13:18:48 | mark_ | tries again |
| 13:19:33 | mark_ | exactly the same. hmmmmmmmm |
| 13:19:54 | liquidx | are you swapping between a serial and usb cable right now ? |
| 13:22:39 | mark_ | i was, yeh |
| 13:25:32 | mark_ | it unregisters itself fine, so why on earth wont it accept the new device id |
| 13:26:16 | mark_ | :) |
| 13:26:19 | mark_ | grrr |
| 13:27:48 | liquidx | so the usb-eth module is actually loaded after it resumes? but it won't accept the new device id? weird .. |
| 13:28:36 | mark_ | yep |
| 13:28:37 | mark_ | exactly |
| 13:28:50 | liquidx | sad .. nano-stable segv if i save the file twice .. hehe |
| 13:29:17 | liquidx | hmm .. lemme try mine again .. |
| 13:29:51 | mark_ | oh, it looks like the suspend script isn't causing the host to see the device as unregistered |
| 13:31:29 | liquidx | damn .. mines doing the same thing .. |
| 13:31:46 | liquidx | crap .. i thought i fixed this a few hours ago .. |
| 13:35:13 | mark__ | hehe |
| 13:35:20 | mark__ | i've got to go to lunch now |
| 13:35:27 | mark__ | so i'll see you in about 20 mins if your still here |
| 13:35:31 | mark__ | good luck, and if i get anywhere i'll let you know |
| 13:35:32 | liquidx | hmm .. if i resume it before plugging it in then it works .. |
| 13:35:37 | liquidx | ok cool .. |
| 14:00:43 | mark__ | i'm back |
| 14:02:15 | mark__ | liquidx: any progress? |
| 14:06:53 | liquidx | mm .. i dunno - its something funny that happens after resuming .. if i do the ifdown usbf; rmmod usb-eth; ifup usbf manually, then the "address not accepted" error doesn't come up - but there are probs with my usb-networking somewehre else |
| 14:07:04 | liquidx | anyway - i'm going to sleep now .. i'll play with it more tomorrow .. |
| 14:07:05 | liquidx | goodluck |
| 14:07:09 | mark__ | hehe |
| 14:07:10 | mark__ | thanks |
| 14:07:12 | mark__ | sleep well :) |
| 14:14:42 | bipolar | Kand-ALF: ok... I'm really here now. :) |
| 14:23:03 | mark__ | afternoon bipolar |
| 14:34:47 | bipolar | mark__: i |
| 14:34:50 | bipolar | mark__: hi |
| 15:20:16 | Jacmet | anyone used bbkeys with the ipaq? |
| 15:58:35 | beeblebrox | is away: I'll be back! |
| 17:05:42 | sjohnson | is away: off to Launch!!!, er lunch. |
| 17:48:10 | Zaerc | good morning |
| 17:48:33 | | zwelch was last seen on #familiar 15 hours, 9 minutes and 8 seconds ago, saying: HP won't either.... their tight with their IP [Wed Jan 16 02:39:25 2002] |
| 17:48:33 | raduga | ibot seen zwelch |
| 17:48:34 | Zaerc | anyone awake who knows something about pygtk ? |
| 17:48:39 | raduga | ugh |
| 17:48:40 | raduga | hrm... |
| 17:55:29 | Zaerc | I've found something wrong with pymote, i even know exactly where in the code |
| 17:55:49 | Zaerc | but unfortunately i don't speak python :^( |
| 18:45:02 | sjohnson | is back (gone 01:39:19) |
| 19:25:11 | CmdrChalupa | what CVS tag of the kernel does the last stable version of familiar use? |
| 19:42:17 | CmdrChalupa | I don't mean to be a pest or anything, but does anyone know? |
| 19:46:28 | sjohnson | CmdrChalupa: K2_4_16-rmk1-hh11 |
| 19:51:59 | CmdrChalupa | thanks |
| 19:52:34 | CmdrChalupa | that's the current, isn't it |
| 21:26:15 | raduga | hiya |
| 21:27:14 | a7r- | is away: lunch |
| 23:27:14 | phlegm | kandalf: You around? I have a quick question |
| 23:28:27 | phlegm | Anybody here have a working qtopia desktop? |
| 23:31:17 | cmarqu | phlegm: do it like: |
| 23:31:22 | | kandalf was last seen on #familiar 13 days, 15 hours, 58 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: moin [Thu Jan 3 07:33:22 2002] |
| 23:31:22 | cmarqu | ibot seen kandalf |
| 23:32:28 | phlegm | Hrmmmm I was talking with him last night. ;) |
| 23:33:19 | cmarqu | phlegm: so he had a different nick, ah |
| 23:33:53 | | Kand-alf was last seen on #familiar 10 hours, 38 minutes and 2 seconds ago, saying: Disconnec-: where's your t ? :) [Wed Jan 16 12:55:51 2002] |
| 23:33:53 | cmarqu | ibot seen Kand-alf |
| 23:34:09 | cmarqu | :) |
| 23:34:30 | phlegm | Is it worth upgrading to 5.1 or the changes minor? I'm having a heck of a time getting the qtopia desktop to connect. I have no problems getting w ppp connection standalone though. Any experience with qtopia |
| 23:34:34 | phlegm | ?heh |
| 23:34:50 | cmarqu | not me, sorry |
| 23:38:23 | a7r- | phlegm: yes, power consumption alone makes it worthwhile. |
| 23:39:35 | phlegm | On my way... ;) |
| 23:39:50 | phlegm | I just hate (fear the bootloader portion) Ugh.... |
| 23:40:53 | Jacmet | wasn't there something about someone having problems with ppp in 2.4.16-hh11 ? |
