| 01:38:43 | greeno | is away: lunch |
| 03:55:16 | micah2003 | anyone here running familiar on a 3150? |
| 04:19:47 | sven | micah2003: you might try #handhelds.org |
| 13:29:25 | Morn | is away: showering and trying to be human |
| 14:46:59 | Morn | is away: foraging for food... |
| 15:09:47 | Morn | is back (gone 00:22:47) |
| 15:12:00 | | well, ipkg is the Itsy Package Management System used by Familiar: http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/iPKG or find the source in the handhelds.org CVS http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/familiar/dist/ipkg/ |
| 15:12:00 | AdmChalupa | ibot ipkg |
| 15:38:22 | | kandalf: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 15:38:22 | kandalf | ibot weather klas |
| 15:38:34 | kandalf | shoot why doesn't this work any more ? |
| 15:42:20 | | sjohnson: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 15:42:20 | sjohnson | ibot weather KLIT |
| 15:44:23 | beeblebrox | is away: I'll be back! |
| 15:49:14 | | AdmChalupa: Something failed in connecting to the NOAA web server. Try again later. |
| 15:49:14 | AdmChalupa | ibot weather KIAD |
| 17:08:51 | DaveH | is back (gone 36:31:06) |
| 17:09:28 | DaveH | is away: I'm busy |
| 17:19:42 | AdmChalupa | that perl change of root password thing only works if you have a system that doesn't use MD5 passwords |
| 17:46:31 | metameme | AdmChalupa: even if the system uses MD5 passwords, doesn't the libc still recognize old-style passwd entries when it finds them? |
| 17:49:21 | metameme | It works that way on the x86 Linux distros I've worked with |
| 17:50:26 | AdmChalupa | odd...didn't seem to work for me last time I tried it |
| 17:50:27 | AdmChalupa | hmm |
| 17:50:44 | AdmChalupa | yes, it does recognize old style password entries |
| 17:50:53 | AdmChalupa | but the crypt function generates MD5 hashes |
| 18:02:38 | cjones | Can anybody help me out with setting up my wavelan_cs card? |
| 18:03:07 | metameme | Getting a message on kernel cross-compile: undefined reference to 'release_mem_resource'. Bad def-config? What module is it missing? |
| 18:03:10 | cjones | I've gotten the root image installed... |
| 18:03:43 | metameme | Referenced from pcmcia.o, fails when trying to ld together the vmlinux file. |
| 18:04:09 | metameme | cjones: have you done the ipkg commands to install the wireless tools? |
| 18:04:53 | cjones | metameme: I have no network up yet. I've done the initial ipkg command, but that's it. |
| 18:05:06 | cjones | I assume I need to set up networking before i can get the wireless card working, then? :) |
| 18:05:27 | metameme | hmmm... when I did it, I had a "wired" PCMCIA card that was supported in the Kernel to fall back upon... |
| 18:05:51 | metameme | I think there's a doc about setting up a PPP connection over the cradle serial port with your (networked) host computer |
| 18:06:14 | cjones | Hmm. Now that you mention it, I think I've got a wired PCMCIA card around here. Should've thought of that. |
| 18:06:23 | cjones | Let me try that; thanks. |
| 18:06:33 | metameme | Sure thing. |
| 18:07:27 | metameme | Can anybody help me with the cross-compile? |
| 18:49:21 | metameme | Hmm.... Found my kernel problem. Seems a function was being compiled into an object file properly but never exported. Changing the declaration from 'static' to 'extern' got it to compile. |
| 18:49:29 | metameme | sits with fingers crossed that it RUNS |
| 18:51:27 | metameme | ls |
| 18:51:29 | metameme | oops |
| 18:51:51 | cmarqu | :) |
| 19:01:53 | b0bg | sorry if I am being a dumbass, but I cannot find info about a broken serial connection after installing the 0.51-pre2 |
| 19:02:20 | b0bg | i get 'Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean' |
| 19:02:38 | b0bg | this does not occur with 0.50 |
| 19:03:43 | b0bg | does anyone know if something changed WRT ppp[d] between these versions? |
| 19:22:55 | b0bg | would it be possible to get an RTFM, perhaps including which FM to R? |
| 19:25:28 | a7r | what're you trying to do? |
| 19:26:31 | b0bg | after loading the jffs for familiar 0.5.1[pre2] I cannot setup a ppp connection over the serial link, gives 'receive not 8-bit clean' error |
| 19:26:58 | b0bg | this does not occurr with the 0.5 build, and I cannot see any difference between the versions documented anyware WRT ppp |
| 19:27:13 | a7r | and your environment isn't any different? |
| 19:27:25 | b0bg | same ipaq same host |
| 19:27:29 | BBrox | b0bg: add 'local' to your PPP config file |
| 19:27:44 | b0bg | on the ipaq or the host |
| 19:27:51 | BBrox | b0bg: read the recent post from Christian on the mailing list for an explanation. |
| 19:28:46 | BBrox | b0bg: I added it to both :-) (ie in the peers file on my box and the global option file on the iPAQ) |
| 19:29:13 | b0bg | thx, will try...was the 'Christian' post in the january or dec archive? |
| 19:29:50 | BBrox | January |
| 19:29:55 | b0bg | thx |
| 19:29:55 | BBrox | It's from today (I just read it) |
| 19:38:58 | a7r | /join #sclug |
| 19:38:59 | a7r | heh. |
| 20:27:13 | swoolley | Hi guys. I'm thinking of using Familiar Linux with the iPAQ with the Symbol SPS3000 http://www.symbol.com/products/mobile_computers/mobile_pocket_sps3000_data.html Does anybody know if this works with Familiar Linux? |
| 20:34:20 | swoolley | So, has anybody used the SPS3000 yet? |
| 20:35:09 | swoolley | Is this just an idle room? |
| 20:36:13 | swoolley | I know it is lunchtime on the west coast, but... |
| 20:37:51 | swoolley | thinks he's in an anechoic chamber |
| 20:40:02 | cmarqu | swoolley: try #handhelds.org |
| 20:40:20 | swoolley | ok, thanks. |
| 21:20:38 | EGg0 | is away: I'm reading a book. Do you remember books? |
| 21:38:35 | cjones | How do I get a man page for iwconfig? |
| 21:38:50 | cjones | I'm having trouble understand ing the format for the "enc" argument to iwconfig. |
| 21:45:11 | EGg0_away | is back (gone 00:24:29) |
| 22:06:04 | octav | hi all |
| 22:06:35 | octav | i am trying to install familiar on an IPAQ 3600 ... and I ran in some troubles ... can anyone help? |
| 22:08:14 | reb0rn | hello ... i was wondering if anyone knows of a graphing calculator ported to familiar |
| 22:09:52 | bipolar | is away: I'm not here... Really.... |
| 22:16:00 | artrix | octav: what's wrong in the install process? |
| 22:21:31 | smok | Hurray! I finally have familiar + 802.11 working |
| 22:22:00 | octav | i have followed the install instuctions and everything was just fine until rebooted the ipaq |
| 22:22:05 | octav | now i have a blank screen |
| 22:22:30 | octav | i have tried to connect to the ipaq via hyperterminal but i cannot do it since i have an USB cradle |
| 22:23:05 | smok | All the debugging is put out on the serial console |
| 22:40:25 | Phlegm | Hey all.... Progressing well. I can connect to my ipaq on usb and serial now... Only ir left to go. I have an easy question for somebody here. What is the name of my CF dev? |
| 22:40:31 | Phlegm | hda? |
| 22:41:41 | miph | if it's ide, so should be. |
| 22:42:39 | Phlegm | mount /dev/hda /mnt/hda |
| 22:42:39 | Phlegm | mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist |
| 22:43:12 | miph | you first have to configure it. |
| 22:43:13 | sjohnson | mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda |
| 22:43:28 | miph | yeah, if it's found. |
| 22:43:32 | Phlegm | Another quick question. I'mm gonna put some pics on there once there is room. What size should I make them... |
| 22:43:44 | Phlegm | Hrmmm where should I start with the config? |
| 22:43:53 | sjohnson | miph: No you don't. They come already paritioned and formatted as FAT. |
| 22:44:17 | Phlegm | This was used prior in wince so it probably has the wrong formatting... |
| 22:44:23 | miph | sjohnson: yeah, sorry. but you have to configure the automount. |
| 22:44:32 | Phlegm | edit my fstab? |
| 22:44:35 | sjohnson | autmoing ues. |
| 22:44:41 | sjohnson | Phlegm: No /etc/pcmcia/ide.opts |
| 22:44:46 | miph | nods. |
| 22:45:35 | sjohnson | You need to edit both case sections. |
| 22:45:36 | Phlegm | Hrmm do I just remove the #'s? |
| 22:49:34 | sjohnson | yes. And then edit the fields to tase in the first section. |
| 22:51:31 | noriko | which version of familiar should i be using? |
| 22:55:50 | Phlegm | Damn... now I can't ssh in.. ugh... rebooting |
| 22:56:52 | noriko | m |
| 22:57:09 | noriko | i don't suppose it's posible to cross compile from openbsd |
| 23:01:03 | Phlegm | hrmmm sshd gives error while loading chared libraries libcrypto.so.0.95 no such file or directory. Weird... anybody know what package uses this? |
| 23:02:00 | octav | can you program an IPAQ via USB? |
| 23:02:20 | noriko | i just saw usb networking |
| 23:02:27 | noriko | at handhelds.org |
| 23:02:44 | Phlegm | I have mine networked as we speak... The how worked perfectly |
| 23:02:46 | noriko | http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking |
| 23:03:16 | noriko | usb is much faster then serial |
| 23:04:23 | octav | yeah but i need to install something over usb ... not write applications ... |
| 23:10:02 | Phlegm | Anybody know what package provides libcrypto.so.0??? |
| 23:30:15 | miph | libssl |
| 23:42:02 | Phlegm | can I update to .5.1pre2 by changing my ipkg.conf and doing an ipkg update, ipkg upgrade? |
| 23:47:57 | Serp | hello all |
| 23:48:01 | a7r- | hey.. |
| 23:48:29 | Serp | quick qn: is familiar 1.5.1-pre2 stable enough to install from scratch onto an iPAQ H3760 ? |
| 23:56:28 | Serp | this is rather quiet for such a full channel isn't it? |
| 23:56:35 | a7r- | Serp: we're all busy coding.. |
| 23:56:35 | Phlegm | What filesystem type should I mount my flash as? I got the ssh libssl thingy fixed. ;) |
| 23:56:42 | a7r- | Serp: and yeah, that's fine. |
| 23:56:49 | Serp | cheers |
| 23:56:56 | a7r- | Phlegm: ext2 or FAT. |
| 23:57:05 | a7r- | or do you mean your internal flash? |
| 23:58:40 | Serp | As I'm going to use pre2, is there anything inparticular that needs testing? |
| 23:58:52 | a7r- | Test whatever you want to run. |
| 23:59:05 | Serp | ah ok. |