| 01:37:07 | sjohnson | is away: fetching new stylus for Zaurus |
| 03:04:34 | sjohnson | is back (gone 01:27:28) |
| 03:41:03 | dysan | hi, does anyone know how i can use my cf card with familiar, and/or how to format it and where its mounted or what it is in /dev? |
| 03:41:56 | sjohnson | dysan: It's already formated as FAT |
| 03:42:17 | dysan | how do i use it? |
| 03:42:21 | sjohnson | to mount it -> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda |
| 03:42:39 | sjohnson | dysan: It shows up an IDE drive to the kernel. |
| 03:42:42 | dysan | unknown device |
| 03:43:09 | sjohnson | what does 'cardctl status' show? |
| 03:43:52 | dysan | Socket 0: 5V 16-bit PC Card |
| 03:43:56 | dysan | function 0: [ready] |
| 03:44:01 | dysan | Socket 1: no card |
| 03:46:15 | sjohnson | Are you using a serial console? |
| 03:46:25 | dysan | yes |
| 03:47:07 | sjohnson | remove the card and reinsert it, cardmgr will output a text to the console look for a line 'ide start hd...' |
| 03:47:28 | dysan | remove the card or the whole sleeve? |
| 03:47:36 | sjohnson | dysan: Just the card. |
| 03:47:37 | dysan | doesnt say anything like that when i remove the card |
| 03:47:50 | dysan | h3600_single_sleeve_pcmcia_configure_socket: socket=0 vcc=50 vpp=50 reset=1 |
| 03:48:06 | dysan | says it three times, first time reset=0, second reset=1, third reset=0 |
| 03:48:15 | sjohnson | Make sure that your IPAQ is firmy seated in the sleeve. |
| 03:48:34 | dysan | its in all the way |
| 03:48:54 | sjohnson | OK make sure the CF card is firmly in the adapter |
| 03:49:02 | dysan | it is |
| 03:49:21 | dysan | would i have to have booted up the ipaq with the sleeve on? |
| 03:49:45 | sjohnson | dysan: No. The kernel will recognize sleeve removals and insertions |
| 03:50:06 | sjohnson | do 'ps aux | grep cardmgr' . Is cardmgr running? |
| 03:50:31 | dysan | yes |
| 03:50:48 | sjohnson | OK insert the card again. |
| 03:51:05 | dysan | still just says the the thing it said before |
| 03:51:23 | sjohnson | OK. is your battery and sleeve battery charged? |
| 03:51:30 | dysan | yes, fully charged |
| 03:51:32 | dysan | wait |
| 03:51:35 | dysan | sleeve battery? |
| 03:51:43 | dysan | im guessing that charges with the ipaq |
| 03:55:33 | dysan | hi |
| 03:55:37 | dysan | sorry, server split |
| 03:55:45 | dysan | anyways yes they are charge |
| 03:55:45 | sjohnson | Last message -> yes. It has an light that's on the left side behind the IPAQ portion of the sleeve. On the back hump near the top |
| 03:56:03 | sjohnson | OK. cardctl eject 0 |
| 03:56:08 | sjohnson | cardctl insert 0 |
| 03:56:17 | sjohnson | And then look for the cardmgr output |
| 03:56:44 | dysan | ioctl(): Device or resource busy |
| 03:56:56 | sjohnson | dysan: reboot |
| 03:57:19 | sjohnson | The pcmcia socket is hung |
| 03:57:25 | dysan | ok |
| 03:59:10 | dysan | crap |
| 03:59:14 | dysan | kernel error |
| 03:59:23 | sjohnson | what? |
| 03:59:48 | dysan | *pgd = 00000000, *pmd = 00000000 Internal error: Oops: 0 |
| 03:59:58 | dysan | lots and lots of numbers... |
| 04:00:06 | dysan | and thenKernel panic: Attempted to kill init! |
| 04:00:15 | sjohnson | Don't worry about, just hit the reset button. |
| 04:00:36 | dysan | happened again |
| 04:00:39 | dysan | :( |
| 04:01:06 | sjohnson | Turn off the battery cutoff switch for 5 seconds. And try again. |
| 04:02:41 | dysan | happened again |
| 04:03:32 | sjohnson | Looks like your jffs2 image do trashed. |
| 04:03:45 | sjohnson | You probably need to 'load root' again. |
| 04:03:56 | dysan | fun |
| 04:04:08 | sjohnson | It happends. I had to do it a couple of times. |
| 04:04:21 | dysan | hehe, well thanks |
| 04:04:48 | sjohnson | One you get booting again. You follow the mount -t vfat /dev/hda /mnt/hda to mount you CF card. |
| 04:04:54 | dysan | ok |
| 04:05:19 | dysan | thanks for the help |
| 04:09:42 | dysan | hmm |
| 04:09:44 | dysan | i think im close to turning my ipaq into a brick |
| 04:09:55 | dysan | boot> auxm rx status: 0x00000020 |
| 04:09:55 | dysan | Auxm checksum error, csum: 0x0000002A |
| 04:09:55 | dysan | msg byte: 0x00000002 |
| 04:09:55 | dysan | msg byte: 0x00000021 |
| 04:09:56 | dysan | msg byte: 0x00000009 |
| 04:09:58 | dysan | msg byte: 0x00000002 |
| 04:10:17 | sjohnson | dysan: As long as you don't trash the bootldr you would have a brick. |
| 04:10:18 | dysan | and all the colors are inverted on the bootloader screen |
| 04:10:32 | dysan | well its the bootloader thats giving checksum errors |
| 04:10:59 | sjohnson | You tried to load the bootldr again? |
| 04:11:03 | dysan | no |
| 04:11:16 | dysan | i just rebooted while holding down the action button, to get the boot prompt, and it gave me that |
| 04:11:23 | sjohnson | You tried 'load root'? |
| 04:11:36 | dysan | no, it gave me all the before i did anything |
| 04:11:44 | dysan | but i just rebooted again and it was fine... |
| 04:12:28 | sjohnson | dysan: You don't have to hold down the action button. Without WinCE you can press the calendar buutton to get the boot> prompt. |
| 04:12:36 | dysan | oh |
| 04:12:58 | sjohnson | if the bootldr finds WinCEm it will immediagely boot into that. |
| 04:13:06 | dysan | well then ok, everything seems to be working now, guess it was just a quirk |
| 04:13:46 | sjohnson | Well it might have indicate some problem. |
| 04:14:14 | sjohnson | load root again and see if your can boot w/o any problems. |
| 04:14:27 | sjohnson | if you can I would probably call it a fluke. |
| 04:14:28 | dysan | ok |
| 04:24:09 | greeno | is away: stuff |
| 04:41:52 | dysan | ok now on the first time ive tried to boot it hangs on trying to set the system clock |
| 04:42:52 | dysan | i think im going to reload the boot loader |
| 05:03:16 | sjohnson | dysan: That is a work around. |
| 05:03:22 | | rtc is implemented transparently unless sa1100-rtc is loaded. hwclock unnecessary. |
| 05:03:22 | sjohnson | ibot:: rtc |
| 05:03:37 | | sjohnson: i'm not following you... |
| 05:03:37 | sjohnson | ibot: hardware clock |
| 05:04:20 | dysan | wow, you making that bot to answer questions? |
| 05:05:21 | sjohnson | That's one of the things it for |
| 05:05:28 | sjohnson | ibot: search for hang |
| 05:06:06 | sjohnson | dysan: This a bootldr command to reset the RTC so that it will boot OK. |
| 05:06:39 | dysan | what is it? |
| 05:08:28 | sjohnson | I'm looking for it. |
| 05:10:45 | dysan | ok it hung on that again |
| 05:12:07 | sjohnson | poke ram 0x90010004 22 |
| 05:12:26 | sjohnson | once you get booted your need to upgrade your kernel |
| 05:12:56 | dysan | how will i do that? |
| 05:13:46 | dysan | ok heres some stuff its saying about hda |
| 05:14:06 | dysan | cardmgr[78]: executing: './ide start hda' |
| 05:14:15 | dysan | hda: bad special flag: 0x03 |
| 05:14:16 | dysan | hda: lost interrupt |
| 05:14:16 | dysan | hda: lost interrupt |
| 05:14:16 | dysan | hda: lost interrupt |
| 05:15:09 | sjohnson | What familiar version did you load? |
| 05:16:02 | dysan | .5 |
| 05:16:31 | sjohnson | dysan: You have network connectivy going? |
| 05:16:43 | dysan | did, id have to get it going again |
| 05:17:02 | dysan | hold on, let me boot into linux |
| 05:26:05 | dysan | having time stamps that are in the future isnt goint to make something not work right? |
| 05:29:10 | sjohnson | no |
| 05:29:24 | sjohnson | just use date to set the system date |
| 05:31:00 | dysan | ok i have networking up |
| 05:34:15 | sjohnson | Can you reach sites on the internet from your IPAQ? |
| 05:34:50 | dysan | yes |
| 05:35:21 | sjohnson | Ok First 'ipkg update' and then 'ipkg upgrade' |
| 05:36:10 | sjohnson | That will update all of your software that's loaded and hopefully the kernel and modules. :) |
| 05:36:22 | dysan | says everything was up to date |
| 05:37:01 | dysan | when i did the command though, it said it updated the list of available packages in familiar-unstable |
| 05:37:07 | dysan | er wait nm |
| 05:37:28 | dysan | <-- total familiar newb :) |
| 05:37:53 | sjohnson | The first comment just loads the latest index files for the feeds. |
| 05:38:14 | dysan | so, what now? |
| 05:38:15 | sjohnson | The second command compare loaded software again the feed indexes |
| 05:38:27 | sjohnson | And loaded them is feeds has a new package. |
| 05:42:13 | dysan | was the command mount -t vfat /dev/hda /mnt/hda ? |
| 05:42:23 | sjohnson | /dev/hda1 |
| 05:45:54 | dysan | now mount hangs when i try to do that |
| 05:46:41 | sjohnson | you definate need to update your kernel. |
| 05:46:50 | dysan | whats the newest one? |
| 05:46:58 | sjohnson | 2.4.17-rmk4 |
| 05:47:25 | dysan | where would i get that? |
| 05:47:39 | sjohnson | Add a src line to /etc/ipkg.conf with a URL of ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/2.4.17 |
| 05:47:52 | sjohnson | then 'ipkg update' to load the index file. |
| 05:48:23 | sjohnson | Do that and then I'll talk your though the update process. It's not automated, but not hard. |
| 05:48:36 | dysan | ok |
| 05:48:38 | dysan | rootme |
| 05:48:40 | dysan | whoops |
| 05:48:41 | dysan | hehe |
| 05:50:19 | dysan | let me finish the task-complete then ill do that |
| 05:51:59 | sjohnson | is away: BIAB, shower time |
| 06:10:43 | jarjar26 | i need help ! |
| 06:11:27 | dysan | well i dont know much, but i think im the only one here :) |
| 06:11:32 | jarjar26 | i have flash my ipaq, i have write boot, deamon load, but a the familiar prompt i could not write |
| 06:12:07 | jarjar26 | on my ipaq i see Tux with a flashin cursor |
| 06:12:22 | dysan | you see the familiar login: prompt? |
| 06:12:26 | dysan | but you cant type anything? |
| 06:12:40 | jarjar26 | no , i can't type anything :( |
| 06:12:54 | dysan | are you using hyperterminal or minicom? |
| 06:13:54 | jarjar26 | hyperterminal but i tinhg i have found .. |
| 06:14:03 | jarjar26 | yes :):) |
| 06:14:08 | jarjar26 | it's my flow control ! |
| 06:14:17 | dysan | heh i thought so |
| 06:15:14 | jarjar26 | :) |
| 06:15:57 | jarjar26 | so i have the prompt # :):) but if i type ipkg install_pending... nothing happen :( |
| 06:16:28 | dysan | well you need to get the ipaq on the internet before you can do that |
| 06:16:40 | dysan | you have linux on your pc? |
| 06:17:06 | jarjar26 | no but on other pc yes, why ? |
| 06:17:31 | dysan | because it would be easier to get the ipaq on the internet through a linux machine |
| 06:18:53 | jarjar26 | hum, i will try with my windows machine, but if i don't have succes i wiil try with my linux computer |
| 06:19:10 | dysan | youll need to get some kind of nat software |
| 06:19:14 | dysan | if your going to use your windows one |
| 06:19:22 | dysan | btw what version of windows do you have? |
| 06:19:53 | jarjar26 | win xp |
| 06:19:59 | dysan | ouch |
| 06:20:07 | dysan | i tried to get it to work with winxp, no dice :( |
| 06:20:10 | jarjar26 | i know .. |
| 06:23:19 | jarjar26 | but i have a cf network card on my ipaq, do yoy know if is work ? |
| 06:23:28 | dysan | oh, you do? |
| 06:24:25 | sjohnson | jarjar26: What type of CF network card? |
| 06:24:29 | sjohnson | is back (gone 00:32:31) |
| 06:25:07 | jarjar26 | Socket ( not wireless ) |
| 06:25:34 | sjohnson | Ah, ok. The Sock WiFi card isn't supported yet. |
| 06:25:49 | TaKe_TiUdEgAs | oi ? |
| 06:27:12 | jarjar26 | i have try to boot and it seems to work, i have this message : ./network start eth0 |
| 06:28:20 | jarjar26 | oups + Operation Failed .. my be because i don't have dhcp server ? |
| 06:30:26 | dysan | sjohnson: i added the kernel feed to my src list and updated, now what? |
| 06:31:06 | jarjar26 | it's working :):) !!! |
| 06:32:33 | sjohnson | dysan: It's easiest if your have 2 shells/console open to IPAQ |
| 06:33:01 | sjohnson | ipk status | grep 2.4.7 -> to list the kernel modules that are loaded |
| 06:33:39 | sjohnson | Then 'ipkg install xxx-modules-2.4.17-rmk1' each module for the new kernel |
| 06:33:51 | sjohnson | and then ipkg install kernel-2.4.17-rmk4 |
| 06:34:16 | sjohnson | dysan: That's it in a nutshell |
| 06:34:57 | dysan | ok |
| 06:35:51 | sjohnson | Oh, howmuch free space do your have on your jffs2 fs |
| 06:35:57 | dysan | how do i find out? |
| 06:36:00 | sjohnson | df |
| 06:36:27 | dysan | is it shown in kb? |
| 06:36:40 | dysan | its used 84% |
| 06:36:52 | sjohnson | You have enough space. |
| 06:36:54 | sjohnson | Go for it. |
| 06:36:56 | dysan | sweet |
| 06:37:04 | dysan | are you sure the command is ipk? |
| 06:37:13 | sjohnson | ipkg |
| 06:37:22 | sjohnson | sorry |
| 06:37:25 | dysan | k just makin sure |
| 06:39:30 | dysan | says it cant find the modules |
| 06:39:48 | dysan | and i looked at the list it made from lorien, and it didnt have any of the modules i need |
| 06:40:08 | dysan | except for vfat |
| 06:40:49 | sjohnson | do an 'ipkg list | grep 2.4.17' |
| 06:41:19 | dysan | oh whoops its rmk4 |
| 06:41:36 | dysan | ipkg install ide-modules-2.4.17-rmk4 |
| 06:41:42 | dysan | argh darn consoles |
| 06:43:53 | dysan | its giving me a lot of unresolved symbols, that ok? |
| 06:43:58 | dysan | when it configures them that is |
| 06:52:18 | sjohnson | dysan: It's OK. You don't have all of the module loaded yet and rebooted with the right kernel |
| 06:52:46 | dysan | ok all modules and the kernel are installed, time to reboot |
| 06:53:07 | sjohnson | crosses his fingers |
| 06:54:19 | dysan | ok how do i check my current kernel version? |
| 06:54:26 | sjohnson | uname -a |
| 06:54:27 | dysan | and im still getting the hda: lost interurupt messages :( |
| 06:54:38 | dysan | well the kernels working |
| 06:55:28 | sjohnson | dysan: Well, now I'm stumped. |
| 06:55:56 | dysan | i did the mount command and it was able to find the size, then it said Partition check: and a folder, and now its repeatedly saying hda: lost interrut |
| 06:55:59 | dysan | interrupt* |
| 06:56:40 | dysan | man how do i stop mount |
| 06:56:45 | dysan | lol |
| 06:57:02 | dysan | could this mean i have a bad cf card? |
| 06:57:07 | sjohnson | dysan: Your probably can't. The problem is block in the kernel. |
| 06:57:12 | sjohnson | s/problem/program/ |
| 06:57:53 | dysan | root |
| 06:58:02 | dysan | oh well |
| 06:58:12 | sjohnson | possibly. But I would suggest that you try #handhelds.org M-F during the day. The big boys are there then. |
| 06:58:16 | dysan | ill just wait till i get my microdrive |
| 06:58:18 | dysan | ok |
| 06:58:37 | sjohnson | Of try sending e-mail to the handhelds or ipaq mailing lists. |
| 06:59:17 | sjohnson | Sorry I could help any more. |
| 06:59:43 | sjohnson | If you wish you can ipkg remove the old kernel and modules to free up the space |
| 06:59:44 | dysan | well thanks for helping me, im glad i have the new kernel though |
| 07:00:21 | sjohnson | dysan: Microdrives do rock. I've got two myself. |
| 07:00:33 | dysan | my only problem is that their a little pricey |
| 07:01:16 | sjohnson | Well, the 340MB drive is no too bad. around $150 IIRC |
| 07:01:30 | dysan | yeah |
| 07:01:35 | dysan | the only problem is im 14 :/ |
| 07:01:40 | dysan | i dont have much of a cash inflow |
| 07:01:44 | dysan | :) |
| 07:01:52 | sjohnson | Ah. |
| 07:02:22 | sjohnson | On the 'Net, no one can see you are a 6 foot chicken. |
| 07:02:32 | dysan | hehe, amen |
| 07:03:25 | sjohnson | dysan: You may want to check dc on #handhelds.org and/or #familiar. He's your age. He lives in the UK |
| 07:03:46 | dysan | ok, cool |
| 07:04:15 | dysan | can i remove task-bootstrap for 2.4.7? |
| 07:04:49 | sjohnson | dysan: Dont bother. Just just a package that is made up of dependencies. |
| 07:04:56 | dysan | ok |
| 07:05:31 | dysan | ouch, my disk use is up to 93% |
| 07:05:37 | sjohnson | Well, this old fart needs to turn in. I'm on call this week-end. and I'm sure my pager will be going off anytime now. |
| 07:05:45 | dysan | hehe, ok |
| 07:05:51 | dysan | bye |
| 07:05:58 | sjohnson | dysan: remove the old 2.4.7 kernel stuff. That will free up space. |
| 07:06:16 | dysan | i did |
| 07:07:08 | dysan | is there some other place that might have stuff thats taking up space? |
| 07:07:23 | dysan | wait a minute |
| 07:07:25 | sjohnson | And remember that jffs2 uses compression, The raw space removed by 'df' is actuall anout 2x bigger as usable space. |
| 07:07:26 | dysan | they didnt get removed |
| 07:07:44 | sjohnson | dysan: You have to remove them manually. |
| 07:08:16 | dysan | do i have to type the full package name, e.g. ide-modules-2.4.7-rmk3-np1-devfs |
| 07:08:24 | dysan | i only went up to the rmk3 |
| 07:08:35 | sjohnson | yep. the full name. |
| 07:08:39 | dysan | eh, thats what i get for cutting corners |
| 07:08:58 | sjohnson | You'll learn. We did. Including me. |
| 07:09:14 | dysan | hehe |
| 07:09:18 | dysan | ok well ill let you go |
| 07:09:36 | sjohnson | Nite. And have fun with your IPAQ. |
| 07:09:42 | dysan | i will |
| 07:24:12 | dysan | sighs |
| 07:24:15 | dysan | is anyone else there? |
| 07:24:42 | a7r | yup. |
| 07:24:56 | dysan | i just upgraded my kernel and modules to 2.4.17, and now ppp isnt working |
| 07:25:09 | dysan | says Receive serial link is not 8-bit clean: |
| 07:25:16 | dysan | Problem: all had bit 7 set to 0 |
| 07:25:23 | a7r | hrm.. |
| 07:25:29 | a7r | I'm not sure why that would be happening. |
| 07:26:00 | dysan | and then i cant login through serial until i reboot |
| 07:28:31 | dysan | and for some reason im unable to remove my old kernel and its modules... |
| 07:29:43 | dysan | hmm, how about i just rm the 2.4.7 modules folder |
| 09:00:12 | CoolPops | hello. I did a bad thing with my familiar install and curious if anyone could help me out. I did not back up my win_ce partition |
| 09:00:34 | a7r | that's a damn shame. |
| 09:01:46 | CoolPops | I got confused somehow and thought it was a backup of my user data, which I had none of. |
| 09:02:56 | CoolPops | I just bought a iPAQ 3765 today. It's my first iPAQ. |
| 09:04:16 | CoolPops | is there any recourse? |
| 09:04:32 | a7r | it's a tough one.. the licensing prohibits distribution. |
| 09:05:47 | CoolPops | a7r: guess I am very committed at this point. I am at the PPP setup. |
| 09:06:36 | CoolPops | Windows keeps wanting to verify the user name. After 60 secs it times out. |
| 09:10:42 | CoolPops | does anyone know why it would not authenticate the user? |
| 09:18:13 | CoolPops | In the end when I have everything setup will I have a usable PDA? |
| 09:19:47 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: depends on what you want to use it for |
| 09:20:13 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: I was haoping actually to install Qtopia on it. |
| 09:20:22 | CoolPops | hoping |
| 09:20:32 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: qtopia is quite usable and good |
| 09:20:53 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: you may not have seen my first post. I did not backup my win_ce partiton :( |
| 09:21:21 | beeblebrox | you can get the backup from the compaq ROM upgrade |
| 09:21:42 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: once I get it all setup, the iPAQ will boot into X without the help of another machine? |
| 09:22:01 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: really? I can find that on Compaq's site? |
| 09:22:12 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: you will have to install X first. And if you want qtopia, you dont need X at all. |
| 09:22:17 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: which model is this ? |
| 09:22:40 | CoolPops | 3765 |
| 09:23:00 | beeblebrox | hmm.. .i dont think there is a ROM upgrade for the 3765 yet |
| 09:23:12 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: :( |
| 09:23:18 | beeblebrox | but i have read about someone who installed the 36xx ROM and it worked. |
| 09:23:38 | beeblebrox | but compaq should be out with an update soon enough. you should be able to use that. |
| 09:23:42 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: I did a search on compaqs site for rom upgrade, 0 results |
| 09:24:44 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: I can't get windows to login into the iPAQ with PPP. It says Verifying Username/password and timesout there. |
| 09:25:59 | beeblebrox | dont know about that. i use linux, and usbnet. |
| 09:27:23 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: I'm gonna go with that one now. hehe I had to setup a windows box just to get linux on my iPAQ. I didn't have one in the house, but figured I started the install here, maybe I could finish it....guess not. Micro$oft, my hero. |
| 09:29:07 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: do you have a network card for the ipaq ? |
| 09:30:10 | CoolPops | no, but I want to purchase one, any suggestions? |
| 09:30:58 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: you dont need a network card in the iPAQ for the usb networking to function, do you? |
| 09:32:17 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: be right back |
| 09:37:49 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: I had to release the cable connection on my win box and reattach it to my main linux box |
| 09:38:30 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: if you dont have a network card, you should use usbnet. it is easy to setup, and really fast |
| 09:38:33 | | i think usbnet is at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking |
| 09:38:33 | beeblebrox | ibot: usbnet |
| 09:38:38 | beeblebrox | use that link. |
| 09:39:44 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: tnx. Any suggestions for a nic card for the iPAQ? |
| 09:58:03 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: dont know. i myself use usbnet. |
| 10:01:19 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: be back in a few, gotta reboot after my new kernel make |
| 10:22:34 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: working on getting usb up now. |
| 10:23:27 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: cool |
| 10:24:33 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: I dont have device usb0. hum. I enabled USB-USB networking. Is there something else I need to enable? |
| 10:24:50 | beeblebrox | on your computer? |
| 10:25:09 | beeblebrox | did you onclude usbnet as a module? you will need to modprobe it. |
| 10:25:14 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: yes. UHIC is also enabled. |
| 10:35:20 | CoolPops | I dont see anything else required. |
| 10:38:17 | CoolPops | brb |
| 10:53:21 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: I must be missing something because I do not have usb0 |
| 10:54:18 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: ifconfig usb0 = error fetching interface information: device not found |
| 10:58:22 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: duh. I have to insert my IPAQ into the usb cradle. |
| 10:59:47 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: you should do the ifconfig on the ipaq first. |
| 11:00:03 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: and have it connected to the computer thry the usb cable |
| 11:02:10 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: tnx. talking to the ipaq fine now. Now I have to go find iptables and fight that war :) |
| 11:08:11 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: i use ipchains. easier to configure and use. |
| 11:10:10 | CoolPops | working... cool! |
| 11:11:40 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: is there a qtopia package already made out there that u know of? |
| 11:12:17 | | bipolar is going insane, his feed is at http://www.longbros.com/benjamin/ipaq/dist/feed/ |
| 11:12:17 | beeblebrox | ibot: bipolar |
| 11:12:32 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: use this feed. this has a task-qpe or somthing similar. |
| 11:12:50 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: before you do that, install certain basic things like h3600-utils, and apmd. |
| 11:13:08 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: they will be required by qtopia as well. |
| 11:17:30 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: tnx. |
| 11:18:55 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: do u know if theier is a way to automatically get the ns addresses from the desktop onto the ipaq? like when I drop it in the cradle, it would config the network? |
| 11:20:15 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: basically, you can put a usbnet startup script on the ipaq. that would configure the usb-ethernet interface, and assign the ip address. |
| 11:20:24 | CoolPops | or maybe if the ipaq is the same IP a means for the desktop to run a script when its droped into the cradle? |
| 11:20:45 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: then when you put it in the cradle, you can run a small script on the desktop to initialize it. |
| 11:20:47 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: Im thinking about taking it to work and home. |
| 11:20:56 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: gotya |
| 11:21:23 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: it could do a scp of the desktops resolv.conf, etc... |
| 11:21:28 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: no probs. you can have a static ip (i use 1.1.1.1) for the ipaq, and a static ip for the usbeth thing on the desktop (1.1.1.2) |
| 11:21:56 | beeblebrox | yea.. though your resolv.conf can remain the same at work and home, i think |
| 11:22:14 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: i can send you the 2 scripts i just talked about. |
| 11:22:36 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: that would be cool! |
| 11:28:14 | CoolPops | ipkg_depends: Warning: task-bootstrap mentioned in dependency but no package found in /usr/lib/ipkg/lists |
| 11:28:45 | CoolPops | its still going. im doing a task-complete just to check things out. :) |
| 11:45:03 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: once the task-complete is done, will it boot into X from a harh reset? |
| 11:53:08 | beeblebrox | CoolPops: it should. |
| 11:53:33 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: it did! |
| 11:56:45 | CoolPops | beeblebrox: do u know how to quit ae and save a file? |
| 11:59:51 | beeblebrox | no |
| 12:03:47 | CoolPops | vim, here we come! |
| 12:14:00 | CoolPops | is there a way to make the arrow keys work while ssh'n? I tried installing my inputrc, but that didnt work. |
| 12:34:29 | CoolPops | is there a way to make mf linux box to run a script when my IPAQ is inserted into the cradle? |
| 12:57:55 | CoolPops | once I bring up the mixer, how do I get rid of it? |
| 14:24:11 | Eagle_X | Hi |
| 14:33:53 | jarjar26 | Hi ! I Have install task-complete, when my ipaq reboot i juste see a X without noting :( |
| 14:35:20 | jarjar26 | if i check with console , they have error ... |
| 14:51:14 | jarjar26 | i have error when i start x : Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/, removing from |
| 14:51:14 | jarjar26 | list! |
| 14:57:22 | jarjar26 | when i start rxvt i have an error : cna't load font "mono-5.5:minispace=true" |
| 15:02:06 | Morn | is away: cleaning up |
| 18:30:24 | CoolPops | hello all |
| 18:31:10 | cmarqu | Hi |
| 18:33:28 | CoolPops | a quick question about usb networking, if anyone knows. It seems as though when the ipaq goes into suspend mode, my desktop will no longer connect to it via usb networking, even if I rerun the script I made to connect to it initally. any idea? normal, no? |
| 18:34:23 | sjohnson | CoolPops: You have to 'modprobe -r usb-eth; modprobe usb-eth' the drivers after a resume |
| 18:35:56 | CoolPops | sjohnson: ah. tnx. is there an automated way of doing this? and the inital insert? i.e. desktop runs a script when the unit is inserted into the cradle? |
| 18:36:49 | sjohnson | CoolPops: No you can't automate a cradle insertion. The drivers have to be loaded before the ipaq is inserted into the cradle. |
| 18:37:59 | sjohnson | But you can write a sleep/resume script to to handle the sleep and wake portion |
| 18:38:49 | CoolPops | sjohnson: but what about if the driver was loaded, then when the ipaq is inserted, it could configure the usb0 device, when its pulled it could do a wodprobe -r then reload the driver awaiting for another insert? |
| 18:39:32 | sjohnson | CoolPops: You can do the following changes to allow a more automated usb networking. |
| 18:39:49 | sjohnson | vi /etc/network/interfaces and add a usbf section like this. |
| 18:40:02 | CoolPops | ok... |
| 18:40:54 | sjohnson | iface usbf inet static |
| 18:40:54 | sjohnson | address 10.1.1.3 |
| 18:40:54 | sjohnson | netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 18:40:54 | sjohnson | network 10.1.1.0 |
| 18:40:54 | sjohnson | gateway 10.1.1.2 |
| 18:41:06 | sjohnson | use your owrn config. |
| 18:41:18 | sjohnson | The indented stuff show be a tab. |
| 18:41:48 | sjohnson | Then add the line 'alias usbf usb-eth' to /etc/modules.conf |
| 18:42:35 | sjohnson | And finally add this following script as /etc/network/if-post-down.d/usbf |
| 18:42:49 | sjohnson | #!/bin/sh |
| 18:42:49 | sjohnson | if [ "$IFACE" = "usbf" -a "$MODE" = "stop" ] |
| 18:42:49 | sjohnson | then |
| 18:42:49 | sjohnson | modprobe -r usb-eth |
| 18:42:49 | sjohnson | fi |
| 18:42:58 | sjohnson | |
| 18:43:26 | sjohnson | All of that will allow you to 'ifup usbf' and 'ifdown usbf' |
| 18:44:03 | sjohnson | when you 'ifdown usbf' the drivers will removed and they will be loaded when your 'ifup usbf' |
| 18:44:31 | CoolPops | sjohnson: ok. tnx. Ill give that a try. |
| 18:45:59 | sjohnson | CoolPops: If you want, you can add sleep and resume scripts to /etc/resume-scripts to ifdown and ifup when sleeping and waking |
| 18:47:28 | CoolPops | sjohnson: ok. Im still learning familiar and the ipaq device. I boucht the 3765 last night. Its my first and the first thing that had to go is microsoft :) |
| 18:48:45 | sjohnson | don't worry about the /etc/resume-scripts/ this is a README that explains how. |
| 19:12:09 | CoolPops | is things like tab completion, alias, and better keyboard support (home,del,up/dn arrow keys) taken out of bash for size or do I not have something setup right? |
| 19:28:33 | CoolPops | hey to compile apps for familiar, all I have to do is install the cross compiler, then use arm-linux-gcc instead of gcc? |
| 20:06:30 | CoolPops | with the cradle that supports both the serial cable and usb, is it possible to use both at the same time? i.e. minicom and usb networking? |
| 20:23:51 | sjohnson | CoolPops: yes. The USB and serial ports are seperate |
| 21:29:01 | CoolPops | I would like to get a network card setup for my iPaq. Anyone have any good suggestions? |