| 00:37:07 | xtreamist | does the salamander project have a homepage somewhere? |
| 05:26:13 | rasty | hey hey.. so, is there a text editor I can use with the root image for v5.1? |
| 05:26:36 | rasty | errr.. 0.5.1 |
| 12:39:17 | bipolar | is back (gone 14:55:10) |
| 14:04:35 | mvip|work | hi all! =) |
| 14:04:58 | mvip|work | bipolar: any new release of qpe? |
| 14:12:11 | apt-hjf | mvip|work hi =] |
| 14:30:27 | mvip|work | hi =) |
| 14:30:45 | mvip|work | anything new about porting some palm-emus to the ipaq? |
| 14:40:14 | sachac | mvip|work: You might be interested in OPIE... |
| 15:12:31 | bipolar | re.. |
| 15:12:35 | bipolar | mvip|work: Use Opie. |
| 15:12:41 | | bipolar: i don't know |
| 15:12:41 | bipolar | ibot: opie? |
| 15:12:45 | | bipolar: no idea |
| 15:12:45 | bipolar | ibot: Opie? |
| 15:12:50 | | bipolar: i'm not following you... |
| 15:12:50 | bipolar | ibot: Opie |
| 15:12:58 | bipolar | who deleted it?! |
| 15:13:14 | | OK, bipolar. |
| 15:13:14 | bipolar | ibot: Opie is at opie.handhelds.org and in the Channel #Opie |
| 15:30:08 | mvip|work | bipolar: why? is quie more develooped? |
| 15:32:51 | sachac | mvip|work: apparently.. |
| 15:34:02 | mvip|work | what feed do i get qpie at? |
| 15:40:47 | mvip|work | whats the command for saving file in ae? |
| 15:41:58 | sachac | mvip|work: opie. see www.handhelds.org... |
| 15:46:31 | boodle | anyone else here having problems with shared libs in /usr/lib/python2.2/lib-dynload (libc6 version probs) ? |
| 15:46:52 | boodle | for python2.2 (python-base et al.) |
| 15:54:08 | boodle | mallum: hello? |
| 15:54:19 | mallum | boodle: hi |
| 15:54:30 | mallum | boodle: whats up ? |
| 15:55:14 | boodle | mallum: Just an fyi (or you know already ;) I just got scream working with python2.2 (pygtk too :) but under matchbox, when I try to select a shoutcast stream, it kills my station dialog box.. |
| 15:55:25 | boodle | mallum: just reinstalled ion and works fine |
| 15:55:53 | mallum | boodle: bugzilla ? |
| 15:56:02 | boodle | mallum: sure I'll file it |
| 15:58:37 | mallum | boodle: I take it your running the latest matchbox ? |
| 15:59:41 | mallum | boodle: 0.1.8 ? |
| 15:59:49 | boodle | mallum: yes |
| 16:00:12 | boodle | will reinstall it and try again for the heck of it |
| 16:01:00 | mallum | I've definetly used scream under matchbox with no problems ... |
| 16:02:22 | boodle | mallum: same behavior.. I notice with ion that while it's downloading the station list, I get a new tab on the task bar, not so with ion |
| 16:02:40 | boodle | mallum: me too (jornada but worked ok) |
| 16:03:25 | mallum | boodle: has scream been updated recently ? |
| 16:03:25 | boodle | mallum: it may be some sideeffect with what I linked with for pygtk (also used 0.6.9) for python 2.2.. I had to toss in many libs for compilation |
| 16:03:29 | boodle | no |
| 16:04:23 | mallum | hmmmmm |
| 16:04:41 | boodle | no biggie.. when things settle down I'll fiddle with it.. will try a trick or two in how to spawn that dialog to see if any difference. |
| 16:07:28 | boodle | mallum: I posted it just for the heck of it.. prolly my bug really |
| 16:08:52 | mallum | boodle: more likely mine :) - thanks for the report |
| 16:09:14 | mallum | reboota |
| 16:09:16 | boodle | mallum: np |
| 17:33:48 | UrMom | hi |
| 18:25:59 | bipolar_away | is away: I'm not here... Really.... |
| 18:32:58 | mvip|home | hmm....anyone got a clue about whats wrong on my ipaq system...after i did a ipkg upgrade the system hangs at bootup after "Enter runlevel:" |
| 18:37:30 | mvip|home | anyone got a clue? |
| 18:39:25 | Kero | ... |
| 21:37:06 | nikos | Hiya everyone |
| 21:37:18 | nikos | Time to wipe my ipaq and go for a newer fresher install. |
| 21:37:30 | nikos | What bootloader? What familiar image? |
| 21:39:15 | BBrox | 2.18.x |
| 21:39:30 | nikos | Only see .01 at this point? Use that ont? |
| 21:39:33 | nikos | err one. |
| 21:40:06 | boodle | nikos: howdy. I went to 2.18.22 last night (3650) available on handhelds.org ftp site |
| 21:40:23 | nikos | boodle: Somewhere other than ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/linux/compaq/ipaq/v0.30/ ? |
| 21:40:31 | boodle | checks |
| 21:41:06 | | somebody said bootldr was at http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/bootldr/ for cvsweb access, or stable binaries under ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/linux/dists and unstable/development versions at ftp://lorien.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/bootldr/ |
| 21:41:06 | cmarqu | ibot: bootldr? |
| 21:41:22 | boodle | nikos: ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/bootldr/bootldr-2.18.22.bin |
| 21:41:23 | nikos | ah lorien of course, |
| 21:41:29 | nikos | err, maybe not |
| 21:41:32 | boodle | or lorien :) |
| 21:41:43 | | lorien is deprecated, feeds at {ftp,http}://www.handhelds.org/feeds/<feedname>, e.g. http://www.handhelds.org/feeds/2.4.18 |
| 21:41:43 | cmarqu | ibot: lorien? |
| 21:41:50 | cmarqu | Hmm. |
| 21:41:50 | nikos | boodle: Any big changes with 2.18? |
| 21:42:03 | nikos | err hmm. ;) |
| 21:42:15 | boodle | 1. very nifty splash screen ;) and 2. dualboot wince off cf (never tried and never will ;) |
| 21:42:16 | cmarqu | I guess jamey means the lorien feed, not the whole of lorien. |
| 21:42:37 | nikos | boodle: Cool, I agree with you on #2. ;) |
| 21:42:49 | cmarqu | <jamey> JacobBrown: 2.18.26 from ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/feeds/bootldr/bootldr-2.18.26.bin |
| 21:42:56 | nikos | It does seem confusing, we seem to have bootloaders in at least 3 locations on ftp.handhelds.org |
| 21:43:10 | cmarqu | Just a minute ago... that is supposed to be the latest. |
| 21:43:27 | boodle | nikos: you may want to stick with familiar v.5.1 feed right now.. unstable in major transition with python2.2.. many ipkgs now broken and some fsck'd dependencies |
| 21:43:45 | bipolar | is back (gone 03:17:44) |
| 21:43:55 | nikos | boodle: Argh, the release is so stale. :( |
| 21:44:13 | a7r | what's stale about it? ;) |
| 21:44:17 | nikos | a7r: :P |
| 21:44:27 | BBrox | is using 2.18.01 |
| 21:44:30 | boodle | nikos: well unstable certainly doable but expect a bit of manual pkg installation |
| 21:44:37 | nikos | Well, python's not really necessary, I should be able to fix any dependencies manually, at least with compiled ipkg now. |
| 21:44:47 | a7r | nikos: seriously, what's stale about v0.5.1? |
| 21:45:08 | a7r | I mean, the major components are the same. |
| 21:45:14 | nikos | a7r: Err, let me install it again and maybe I can comment from a standpoint of real information. ;) |
| 21:45:19 | boodle | a7r: heya, seems like some of the stuff in /usr/lib/python2.2/lib-dynload built with a different version of libc6 (different than mine ;) |
| 21:45:34 | a7r | boodle: yeah, that's a known problem. |
| 21:45:48 | boodle | a7r: I've got'em all on skiffs if you need |
| 21:45:54 | nikos | Err, hmm. version of libc6 not in unstable? |
| 21:46:20 | a7r | boodle: no thanks.. I'm trying to go away from piece meal package build up, and use source packages for everything. |
| 21:46:41 | boodle | a7r: ok.. good luck |
| 21:46:51 | boodle | still needs to dig in python debian pkging |
| 21:47:14 | a7r | an older revision of the source package I've built up, is online. |
| 21:48:19 | boodle | also seeing some libexpat dependencies (python-xmlbase iirc) and stuff looking for libssl .9.5 or somesuch |
| 21:48:30 | a7r | yup, that stuff's known as well. |
| 21:48:36 | boodle | :) |
| 21:48:49 | boodle | I should browse bugzilla prolly |
| 21:48:51 | nikos | boodle: Search the bugzilla. :P |
| 21:48:54 | boodle | ;) |
| 21:49:16 | a7r | it's not in bugzilla.. I don't want any bugs logged until I do a couple more passes of this. |
| 21:49:24 | a7r | People have been mailing me directly. |
| 21:49:28 | boodle | k |
| 21:49:56 | a7r | I've noticed that unless you install into the tree everyone is using, you don't get any feedback. ;) |
| 21:50:01 | nikos | a7r: Then you are doomed to hear the reports repeated. |
| 21:50:04 | boodle | well at least with all the people after pygtk I've turned my 3650 into a decent little dev box finally.. |
| 21:50:14 | a7r | nikos: yup, and all I can do is say ``yeah, I already heard that''. |
| 21:50:20 | nikos | a7r: good enough |
| 21:50:52 | nikos | damn, it's been so long I can't remember the minicom keys... |
| 21:53:50 | nikos | Hmm, who decided the splashscreen needed a 180 degree rotation... |
| 21:55:32 | cworth | nikos: hi, nice to see you back. |
| 21:55:38 | nikos | Hey cworth |
| 21:55:47 | nikos | cworth: I've been around, just not "around". ;) |
| 21:55:51 | cworth | nikos: yes, the rotation catches you off-guard at first. :) |
| 21:56:08 | nikos | cworth: Yeah, the jffs2 check is almost too fast now to hit the button too. |
| 21:57:22 | cmarqu | cworth: Bug 240 about ipkg was assigned to jamey again... I wonder if I do something wrong? |
| 21:59:44 | nikos | I don't suppose anyone got around to finishing a tool to for "package containing file X" in a feed did they? |
| 21:59:55 | nikos | s/to for/to search for/ |
| 22:00:41 | nikos | nudges hit ipaq and cuts the serial connection 2/3 of the way through the root image... *sigh* |
| 22:02:28 | cmarqu | nikos: well, "tool"... there's ipkgfind |
| 22:02:35 | | ipkgfind is at http://ipkgfind.48ers.dk/ |
| 22:02:35 | cmarqu | ibot: ipkgfind? |
| 22:02:53 | nikos | cmarqu: Thanks, checking it out... |
| 22:03:49 | nikos | cmarqu: Looks like a good start, thanks. |
| 22:04:51 | cmarqu | nikos: for the new python, you might want http://handhelds.org/~a7r/outgoing/python2.2/files |
| 22:05:18 | nikos | cmarqu: Thanks again. |
| 22:05:45 | cmarqu | NP |
| 22:07:19 | cworth | cmarqu: thanks, I'll take a look tomorrow. |
| 22:21:53 | nikos | cworth: Does ipkg -force-removal-of-essential-packages not actually work yet? |
| 22:22:09 | nikos | cworth: I would REALLY, REALLY like to get rid of ash. |
| 22:25:05 | nikos | Anyone have any comments about upgrading to a newer kernel than 2.4.16? |
| 22:27:41 | cmarqu | 2.4.17 works fine for me |
| 22:38:32 | nikos | ERROR: Package menu-tiny wants to install file /usr/bin/update-menus |
| 22:38:32 | nikos | But that file is already provided by package <no package> |
| 22:38:32 | nikos | Please move this file out of the way and try again. |
| 22:38:32 | nikos | s |
| 22:38:38 | nikos | Can anyone explain that one to me? |
| 22:41:46 | cmarqu | That means that this file is not in any package, AFAIK. Bug is already reported. |
| 22:42:15 | cmarqu | But... Hmmm. How can that be? Lemme check. |
| 22:42:43 | cmarqu | http://handhelds.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=208 |
| 22:43:11 | cmarqu | "Maybe it should just say that there is a local file that belongs |
| 22:43:11 | cmarqu | to no package. |
| 22:43:12 | cmarqu | " |
| 22:45:43 | nikos | Err, but this was a blank image. How could it not have been in any package? err, aha, created by installation script? |
| 22:46:08 | cmarqu | Probably, by postinst... |
| 22:46:33 | nikos | Maybe, kind of odd... |
| 22:47:18 | nikos | Well, if you want to really stress out the new python, just try to install gtk-menu... |
| 22:48:29 | cmarqu | I tried to find out the Depends for storm, but python-pygtk does not work yet. |
| 22:48:59 | a7r | I'll stick something up tonight, when I've worked out the libc damage. |
| 22:49:42 | nikos | a7r: Cool, at the moment it looks like install-menu may not like 2.2 though, unless it's a libc related thing. |
| 22:50:04 | a7r | I dunno, Carl sent me a note about that, I'm looking into it. |
| 22:50:15 | nikos | K |
| 22:51:05 | nikos | Good night, I'll continue with this tomorrow. |