| 00:00:14 | Disconnect | try #handhelds.org |
| 00:00:40 | jblack2 | So nix the thought of putting familiar on the zaurus? |
| 00:00:52 | jblack2 | Sorry. Must be in the wrong place. :( |
| 02:31:20 | inode | could someone direct me towards a doc on getting a cf mem card working on an ipaq? |
| 12:20:33 | dc | hey pigeon ! |
| 18:50:00 | janezfun | hello |
| 20:46:00 | greear | hello! |
| 20:46:36 | greear | can anyone offer me any tips on how to get perl installed on my familiar-running-cerfcube? |
| 20:47:02 | greear | also, is there a package that contains 'top'? |
| 21:01:53 | _MAX_ | hi all |
| 21:02:15 | _MAX_ | anyone did make a perl port to familiar |
| 21:04:14 | greear | how can I install it? |
| 21:06:04 | greear | I have a binary package I got off of a debian site, but it seems to need some libraries that are not (yet) installed. I was thinking there might be an ipkg command that would just find the dependencies and make it all work! |
| 21:21:43 | _MAX_ | the prob is the existing is too big |
| 21:22:01 | greear | how big is it? |
| 21:22:24 | greear | btw, I'm running on a Cerfcube, and have 16MB of flash total... |
| 21:22:41 | greear | the last perl I installed took about 2M on the jffs2 file system (ie, compressed) |
| 21:24:15 | greear | it looks like the intimate project has perl, but I'm not sure how to get that onto my cube running familiar... |
| 21:24:43 | a7r | greear: what're you going to be using Perl for? |
| 21:25:12 | greear | I have a product (www.candelatech.com) that uses perl for it's initial configuration, as well as some run-time jobs... |
| 21:25:32 | greear | it won't be trivial to change it to bash or re-implement in c++ or anything... |
| 21:26:05 | a7r | greear: if you need a Perl environment ASAP, contact me through ARL and we can hook you up. |
| 21:26:38 | greear | sorry, don't understand what ARL might stand for :) |
| 21:26:58 | a7r | Andern Research Labs -- http://www.andern.org |
| 21:28:35 | greear | a7r, thanks. I can't afford consulting fees at this time....if I have too I can manually track down all the dependencies, I was just hoping that someone here had already done that. |
| 21:29:53 | greear | is the intimate project binary (library) compatible with the familiar project? If so, it appears I can use their packages if I can just figure out how. |
| 21:30:08 | a7r | it's compatible, if you can cope with the space it's going to use. |
| 21:31:11 | greear | any idea how hard it would be to get apt-get to work on familiar? |
| 21:31:43 | greear | or, can I make ipkg grab a .deb file from an NFS mount or something? |
| 21:31:54 | a7r | you don't.. our package management system supports apt-get's functionality supports network access built in. |
| 21:32:07 | a7r | greear: just ``ipkg install filename'' |
| 21:33:02 | greear | ahhh...let me grab the perl deb from intimate (unless I can get ipkg to just grab it for me?) |
| 21:33:29 | a7r | you could have it grab it for you.. but for now just grab the package. |
| 21:33:31 | a7r | using wget |
| 21:34:27 | greear | ok, just installed wget with ipkg... |
| 21:36:38 | greear | hrm, 'ar' not found.... |
| 21:36:49 | a7r | oh,.. you need to run a recent ipkg. |
| 21:37:02 | a7r | i.e. the latest binary release.. |
| 21:37:11 | a7r | grabs the URL. |
| 21:37:20 | greear | I tried: ipkg install http://intimate.handhelds.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-arm/interpreters/perl-base_5.6.1-5_arm.deb |
| 21:38:01 | greear | I did an ipkg upgrade a minute ago...everything seems up to date |
| 21:39:15 | a7r | http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l/ipkg_0.99.9-1_arm.ipk |
| 21:39:18 | a7r | install that. |
| 21:39:39 | greear | ipkg install http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/armv4l/ipkg_0.99.9-1_arm.ipk |
| 21:39:50 | greear | blech... |
| 21:39:56 | greear | is asleep at the wheel |
| 21:41:32 | greear | Installing perl-base (5.6.1-5) |
| 21:41:32 | greear | ipkg: Cannot link from ./usr/bin/perl5.6.1 to './usr/bin/perl': No such file or directory |
| 21:41:32 | greear | ipkg: Cannot link from ./usr/bin/perl-5.6 to './usr/bin/perl': No such file or directory |
| 21:41:32 | greear | Configuring perl-base...Done |
| 21:41:32 | greear | sh-2.03# |
| 21:41:53 | greear | however, it seems to be working! |
| 21:41:57 | a7r | cool. |
| 21:43:57 | greear | space seems fine, I still got 6MB left |
| 21:44:36 | greear | hrm, any idea which package has the 'ip' tool (the one like ifconfig) |
| 21:45:01 | | i guess ipkgfind is at http://ipkgfind.48ers.dk/ |
| 21:45:01 | a7r | ibot: ipkgfind |
| 21:45:10 | a7r | greear: see that URL,. |
| 21:46:51 | greear | hrm, doesn't seem to be there...I think I have a cross-compiled version lying around... |
| 21:50:07 | greear | ok, mine works....I'll be happy to give you the iproute.tgz file if you can use it in any way :) |
| 21:55:36 | greear | thanks for all your help....I have to go off and figure out how to upgrade the kernel now! |
| 22:22:17 | mallum | a7r: man, you need to get the fridge cut ;) |
| 22:22:35 | mallum | s/fridge/frindge/ |
| 22:22:40 | a7r | haha |
| 22:22:50 | a7r | yeah.. it sucks for soldering. |
| 22:25:24 | mallum | http://10.am/pics/rabbitman.jpg |
| 22:26:38 | Kero | rabbitman... hm... |
| 22:29:24 | mallum | =P |
| 22:29:38 | a7r | mallum: how's hacking? |
| 22:30:10 | mallum | a7r: hmm, not very productiove lately |
| 22:30:21 | mallum | a7r: got some paid work on |
| 22:30:30 | a7r | mallum: cool. |
| 22:30:49 | mallum | a7r: spoke at the uk python conference on saturday |
| 22:31:05 | a7r | cool, what was the topic? |
| 22:31:22 | mallum | a7r: japperpy.sf.net |
| 22:34:09 | mallum | a7r: so you working at the mo, or going with andern.org ? |
| 22:35:05 | a7r | mallum: I'm continuing my current job until I retire this fall, then I'm going back to school,.. ARL is going to be a longterm side project. |
| 22:36:02 | mallum | a7r: what you doing at school - phd ? |
| 22:36:11 | a7r | mallum: undergrad degree. |
| 22:37:38 | a7r | mallum: seems like if I'm gonna go to college, I should do it before I'm 25. ;) |
| 22:39:41 | mallum | a7r: ;) |
| 22:39:58 | mallum | a7r: will they let you in with that fringe though ? |
| 22:40:43 | a7r | mallum: I hope.. I'm going to go back to a mohawk one of these days. |
| 22:42:47 | mallum | a7r: you seen jackass ? |
| 22:43:03 | a7r | yeah. |
| 22:44:15 | mallum | a7r: have you seen cyk2k video's ? |
| 22:44:51 | a7r | mallum: No, I don't think so. |
| 22:45:14 | mallum | a7r: well some of the jackass stuff is taken from that |
| 22:45:40 | mallum | a7r: and them picts of your field test just remind me of that - techno stylie |
| 22:47:02 | a7r | mallum: ah, I'll have to check that video out. |
