| 00:28:05 | saraman | does somebody know where i can get hold of aironet driver and utils |
| 00:59:59 | fsto | Hello world !\n |
| 01:01:35 | fsto | Just installed Opie. What a rush. Really cool stuff. Anybody knows how to get the player to search a directory for mp3? |
| 02:40:14 | m4a1 | hola =) |
| 06:18:15 | oshu | Hello |
| 06:18:46 | oshu | Anyone up for answering a question? |
| 09:26:33 | _MAX_ | hi all |
| 09:26:35 | _MAX_ | hmm...anyone knows why sound is not working in intimate on my ipaq..on familiar it works |
| 14:35:04 | bipolar | is back (gone 42:05:41) |
| 15:47:45 | aki | if i want to update my kernel on ipaq 3850 & familiar 5.1 to 2.4.17-rmk5-hh8, should i make my own cramfs with that kernel or can i install just the kernel somehow |
| 15:50:48 | nikos | oki: Assuming you can find ipkgs for that kernel and modules you can use ipkg to install it like anything else. |
| 15:51:17 | nikos | s/oki/aki/ sorry, my fonts too small. ;) |
| 15:51:31 | aki | =) |
| 15:52:33 | aki | the kernel is in ../feeds/2.4.17, but i haven't found it in an ipkg anywhere |
| 15:53:15 | nikos | Why not one of the kernels already in the unstable feed? |
| 15:54:43 | aki | it says on h3800 status page that from battery status works from rmk5-hh8 |
| 15:56:27 | nikos | aki: Well, I'm not sure, but I see no reason to assume that it wouldn't also work with a later kernel version. |
| 15:57:05 | aki | hmm, i'll give it a try |
| 16:37:59 | aki | nikos, apm works, i installed the unstable. thanks =) |
| 17:17:24 | nikos | aki: Excellent. That's good news. |
| 17:51:06 | nikos | assistance please... |
| 17:51:39 | nikos | When I insert a CF flash card it says among other things |
| 17:51:46 | nikos | cardmgr[82]: module /lib/modules/2.4.16-rmk1/pcmcia/ide-cs.o not available |
| 17:52:26 | nikos | No packages seem to have ide-cs.o in that directory. |
| 17:52:48 | dc_ | ow. |
| 17:52:56 | nikos | Instead pcmcia-modules-2.4.16-rmk1 has /lib/modules/2.4.16-rmk1/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-cs.o |
| 17:53:04 | nikos | Is this the same file but in a different location? |
| 17:53:27 | dc_ | I guess. |
| 18:07:39 | DaveH | hi folks |
| 18:08:58 | thepond | Hello! |
| 18:09:07 | DaveH | hi |
| 18:09:24 | thepond | I'm having one heck of a time getting wlan to work on my iPAQ |
| 18:11:56 | DaveH | can someone point me to a irc howto page ? |
| 18:14:23 | nikos | DaveH: What card are you trying? |
| 18:14:57 | DaveH | i think you ment/ |
| 18:15:03 | nikos | DaveH: And what familiar version do you have installed? Prism2 cards work as well as possible with no config. |
| 18:15:29 | DaveH | that forthepond nikos |
| 18:16:07 | nikos | heh? |
| 18:16:16 | DaveH | nikos: sorry bout typo |
| 18:16:32 | DaveH | using ipaq |
| 18:16:33 | nikos | DaveH: Ah yes, I see my mistake now. Sorry |
| 18:16:38 | dc_ | :} |
| 18:16:41 | DaveH | grins |
| 18:16:49 | nikos | umm, someone seems to have left the room... |
| 18:17:18 | nikos | DaveH: Were you serious about your howto question? |
| 18:19:08 | DaveH | yeh only used xchat before trying to work out ccmmands fhom stic |
| 18:20:27 | DaveH | man typos :-( |
| 18:22:29 | a7r | bbl. |
| 18:22:35 | nikos | DaveH: Feel free to ask questions, I don't mind a little offtopic discussion as long as its not bothering others. |
| 18:23:39 | DaveH | cheer think i may have a desent web tutor |
| 18:33:47 | _MAX_ | hi all |
| 18:36:02 | DaveH | dctanner: hey there long time |
| 18:39:02 | dc__ | DaveH: hey'a |
| 18:41:06 | DaveH | dc_:wanna talk storm_c |
| 18:53:44 | dc__ | DaveH: sorry had to get some food. |
| 18:53:49 | dc__ | DaveH: yepo :) |
| 18:56:13 | DaveH | ive been away for awhile ithink lars is overstreched-so cant do it if you wish ill take it over i think lars-is ok with that |
| 18:58:06 | dc__ | DaveH: :) |
| 18:59:10 | DaveH | really like the new vesion |
| 18:59:28 | DaveH | splash screen is v cool |
| 19:05:05 | nikos | I'm going to flood a little: |
| 19:05:18 | nikos | cardmgr[885]: socket 0: ATA/IDE Fixed Disk |
| 19:05:18 | nikos | cardmgr[885]: executing: 'modprobe ide-cs' |
| 19:05:18 | nikos | hda: PQI ATA Rev6.0, ATA DISK drive |
| 19:05:18 | nikos | ide0 at 0xf6000000-0xf6000007,0xf600000e on irq 42 |
| 19:05:18 | nikos | hda: 256000 sectors (131 MB) w/0KiB Cache, CHS=1000/16/16 |
| 19:05:18 | nikos | /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 |
| 19:05:20 | nikos | ide_cs: hda: Vcc = 3.3, Vpp = 0.0 |
| 19:05:22 | nikos | cardmgr[885]: executing: './ide start hda' |
| 19:05:24 | nikos | hda: status error: status=0x00 { } |
| 19:05:26 | nikos | hda: drive not ready for command |
| 19:05:29 | nikos | hda: status error: status=0x00 { } |
| 19:05:31 | nikos | hda: drive not ready for command |
| 19:05:33 | nikos | cardmgr[885]: + ./ide: eval: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching ``' |
| 19:05:35 | nikos | cardmgr[885]: + ./ide: eval: line 2: syntax error: unexpected end of file |
| 19:05:37 | nikos | cardmgr[885]: + usage: ./ide [action] [device name] |
| 19:05:39 | nikos | cardmgr[885]: + actions: start check stop suspend resume |
| 19:05:41 | nikos | cardmgr[885]: start cmd exited with status 1 |
| 19:05:55 | nikos | Anyone care to help me figure out where to go next to try to fix this? |
| 19:06:39 | dc__ | Disconnect: be back in a bit. thanks. wait till you see 0.6 tomorrow :D |
| 19:06:53 | dc__ | DaveH: be back in a bit. thanks. wait till you see 0.6 tomorrow :D |
| 19:06:57 | dc__ | Disconnect: oops ;p |
| 19:08:19 | DaveH | grins |
| 19:24:53 | dc__ | DaveH: what do ya plan on doing ;)? |
| 19:26:21 | DaveH | i inten |
| 19:26:53 | dc__ | DaveH: or rather, how much time whould you be putting into it? |
| 19:26:59 | DaveH | hang on im goinghto my desktop |
| 19:27:17 | dc__ | :] |
| 19:28:46 | DaveH | dc__:thats better i can type |
| 19:28:59 | dc__ | :} |
| 19:29:11 | DaveH | OK i have once very small project on 2 days or so then Im all yours .. |
| 19:29:47 | dc__ | :D |
| 19:30:17 | dc__ | DaveH: well. on Moday, I'm back to school, which doesn't help. |
| 19:30:41 | dc__ | DaveH: but, once I get Storm 0.6 out, I should have some time to help out, and actualy learn c++ :] |
| 19:31:13 | DaveH | Was planning on continuing where lars left off although I dont think much has been done at all The idea was that we write the C++ code as close to the python code as possible to make updating easy It maynot be the best design for a C+_+ program though .. will look into it more as I get started .. |
| 19:31:24 | DaveH | I have a fair bit of C/C++ experience |
| 19:32:21 | DaveH | dc__: Once I get the toolchain and GTK built on my machine the actual coding should not be a very big job I remember looking at it before I left .. couple of weeks worth I think |
| 19:32:45 | dc__ | DaveH: you know python to? |
| 19:32:52 | dc__ | rihgt. |
| 19:33:10 | DaveH | No but can pick it up as I convert .. I know a good few languages .. |
| 19:33:45 | dc__ | DaveH: nice, it's pretty easy. and reading the pygtk code should be no problem if ya know gtk. |
| 19:34:33 | dc__ | DaveH: well, once Storm C++ reaches a nice stage, it'd be nice to move it over as the defualt Storm. |
| 19:34:40 | DaveH | Nods .. feel free to check me out .. www.adeliesolutions.com/resume.html |
| 19:35:45 | dc__ | DaveH: hehe. I'm just a kid, I do it for fun ;D |
| 19:36:05 | DaveH | I think the cross platform ability of python makes it worth keeping |
| 19:36:07 | dc__ | DaveH: are you happy to use the current sf storm-pim cvs? |
| 19:36:18 | dc__ | DaveH: well. we'll see. |
| 19:36:42 | dc__ | DaveH: it does. but on an iPAQ. it kind of lacks speed. not a really big problem 'yet' |
| 19:36:45 | nikos | DaveH: I highly agree. |
| 19:36:48 | DaveH | yea .. Lars had a storm cvs would rather build it in para with your though makes keeping it uptodate easyer |
| 19:37:01 | nikos | dc__: Profile before ever trying to optimize. |
| 19:37:18 | dc__ | nikos: :] |
| 19:37:48 | dc__ | nikos: poke a7r when you see him. |
| 19:38:02 | dc__ | nikos: bah. I really wanna release 0.6 :{ |
| 19:38:05 | nikos | dc__: I'm not sure a7r would care for me piking him. |
| 19:38:11 | nikos | err poking that is. |
| 19:38:20 | dc__ | (damn) |
| 19:38:23 | nikos | dc__: What's holding you up? |
| 19:38:49 | dc__ | nikos: the socket python module wants an older version of libssl :{ |
| 19:39:15 | nikos | dc__: Ah, yes. But the current version has the same problem, so why wait? |
| 19:39:23 | DaveH | whats new in 0.6 |
| 19:40:03 | dc__ | DaveH: LOTS |
| 19:40:09 | nikos | dc__: Or is the fact that I'm having the problem simply because I upgraded python when I didn't really need to? ;) |
| 19:40:14 | dc__ | DaveH: I begin: Weekly claendar view |
| 19:40:19 | dc__ | revised Maildir format. |
| 19:40:38 | dc__ | nikos: not at all, those are the python modules in there. |
| 19:40:57 | dc__ | nikos: soon they'll be standard. |
| 19:41:02 | dc__ | (i hope) |
| 19:41:18 | dc__ | DaveH: new calendar appointment time handling |
| 19:41:28 | dc__ | DaveH: refresh maildir option |
| 19:41:37 | dc__ | DaveH: dynamic Prefs |
| 19:41:52 | dc__ | DaveH: smart Today. |
| 19:41:57 | dc__ | DaveH: lots :} |
| 19:42:04 | dc__ | DaveH: checkout the cvs. |
| 19:42:09 | DaveH | dc__: dynamic Prefs? |
| 19:42:21 | dc__ | err, later. |
| 19:42:24 | dc__ | g2g |
| 19:51:51 | DaveH | nikos: Can I ask your opinion of ipaq development .. IE is it better to build a toolchain opr should I just develop on my desktop and copy to the skiffcluster to build ? |
| 19:52:48 | nikos | DaveH: Depends on exactly what you are doing. If you aren't going to build very often, try to use the skiffcluster. If it's a daily thing, you would be happier with a cross toolchain probably. |
| 19:53:27 | nikos | DaveH: As you may know, building up a good cross toolchain can be a job in itself. |
| 19:53:53 | DaveH | Once I know I can compile for ipaq ill prolly do most of the development on the desktop and just build for the ipaq once I get stuff working |
| 19:54:08 | DaveH | depends how diff it is to build a usable toolchain |
| 19:54:15 | nikos | DaveH: Of course ( ;) ) that's one of the benefits of Python. |
| 19:54:38 | nikos | spends his days with Python and Squeak. |
| 19:55:06 | DaveH | nods c++ is much faster though with a smaller footprint ... Of course its also easyer to screw up with |
| 19:55:30 | nikos | DaveH: Well, I think "much" is debatable depending on the situation. |
| 19:55:55 | DaveH | nods |
| 19:57:08 | DaveH | storm dosent do a lot of numerical of data manipulation.. |
| 19:57:15 | DaveH | of=or |
| 20:41:11 | DaveH | dc[away]: do you want storm-c as a seperate module in cvs ? |
| 20:41:18 | dctanner_ | DaveH: yeah |
| 20:41:26 | DaveH | nods .. |
| 20:41:52 | DaveH | the picle files .. are they actully used for data storage ? |
| 20:42:09 | DaveH | pickle |
| 20:56:35 | dc_ | DaveH: yes. |
| 20:56:42 | dc_ | DaveH: they have replaced xml. |
| 20:57:01 | dc_ | DaveH: now you're gonna hate me. |
| 20:57:13 | DaveH | have you considered how that will port to c ? pickle is a python object dump isnt it ? |
| 20:57:14 | dc_ | DaveH: but, I think storm c should use xml |
| 20:57:26 | dc_ | DaveH: the old xml parsing is in there. |
| 20:57:48 | dc_ | storage formats have driven me up the damn wall. |
| 20:57:51 | DaveH | nods would be nice if storm and storm_c could use the same data files ? or create some form of port modules ? |
| 20:58:00 | dc_ | DaveH: yes |
| 20:58:11 | dc_ | kicks himself. |
| 20:58:21 | DaveH | grins ... hey dont do that .. |
| 20:58:32 | DaveH | give someone else the fun ;-> |
| 20:58:41 | dc_ | DaveH: only reason Storm uses pickle now is because I don't understand pythons xml modules :{ |
| 20:59:29 | DaveH | hmmm how hard would it be to out put the xml manually xml is only a text based file format should be pretty easy to handle with our own code ? |
| 21:00:10 | dc_ | DaveH: I did, I did |
| 21:00:20 | dc_ | DaveH: but then... |
| 21:00:20 | dc_ | arg! |
| 21:00:28 | dc_ | DaveH: it whould be nice to keep using xml.. |
| 21:00:34 | dc_ | doen't know what to do. |
| 21:00:50 | dc_ | DaveH: pickle is cute and easy. |
| 21:01:24 | DaveH | grins .. Ok we can worry about it latter shall we ill look at the xml stuff you have when i get that far. do you know of anyone who imports /exports to pickle from c |
| 21:01:50 | dc_ | DaveH: use xml. I can worry about pickle > xml |
| 21:01:59 | DaveH | nods cool |
| 21:02:17 | DaveH | Ill look at it as well when I get to that stage .. |
| 21:02:50 | dc_ | okay. |
| 21:02:53 | DaveH | how do I handle getting access to put the storm-c module on CVS and update it |
| 21:03:07 | dc_ | DaveH: what's your sf id? |
| 21:03:37 | DaveH | dont have one yet hang on .. (not done any open sorce stuff up to now ) |
| 21:08:36 | dc_ | DaveH: :} |
| 21:14:04 | DaveH | dc_: the storm picture I noticed the copyright on it ... from the email atl.mediaone.net he lives near me .. what premision has he given to use it .. out of interest? |
| 21:14:41 | dc_ | runs |
| 21:14:57 | dc_ | DaveH: I just hope he's a nice guy. |
| 21:15:40 | nikos | Huh |
| 21:15:51 | dc_ | DaveH: I should email him. if he's not okay I guess we'd have to find another :{ |
| 21:15:51 | nikos | Might have a storm coming this way, should I take a picture? ;) |
| 21:15:57 | dc_ | nikos: I steal.. |
| 21:16:00 | dc_ | kicks himself. |
| 21:16:07 | nikos | slaps dc_'s hand |
| 21:16:09 | dc_ | nikos: yes, yes :] |
| 21:16:16 | dc_ | oww.. |
| 21:16:20 | nikos | dc_: I'll see what I can do, no promises. |
| 21:16:26 | dc_ | :D |
| 21:16:28 | DaveH | Would be an idea to get premision if we can find him ... mediaone no longer exist in atlanta .. AT&FINGT got um its a real nice picture ... if we cant get premision should not be too difficult to get an image of a storm form public domain .. Or I can wait till the next one here and get the camara out |
| 21:16:45 | dc_ | nikos: try and get lighting on sunny green fields. |
| 21:17:01 | nikos | dc_: OK, what's the website so I can see what you've got right now? |
| 21:17:18 | dc_ | nikos: storm-pim.sf.net |
| 21:17:39 | nikos | Ah. |
| 21:17:40 | DaveH | we have pretty good storms in cobb county .. Im into the ameture photo thing .. but if both of us try we should get summit |
| 21:17:43 | dc_ | nikos: it's a vey nice one I think ;) |
| 21:17:54 | dc_ | yepo! |
| 21:18:00 | dc_ | sound good :) |
| 21:18:10 | nikos | DaveH: Go for it, getting a good one will take some time I'm sure. |
| 21:18:39 | dc_ | nikos: that one was quite suited considering M$ latest advertising manpaign |
| 21:18:43 | dc_ | campaign |
| 21:18:51 | nikos | :) |
| 21:18:56 | dc_ | ;] |
| 21:19:07 | nikos | dc_: Of course, that other thing is close to dead now. ;) |
| 21:19:12 | DaveH | Its a mater of waiting for the waether but its that time of year ... Ive been looking for a tornado pic for 2 years though never in the right place at right time ... one time i was it was too dark |
| 21:19:13 | nikos | Speaking of storms... |
| 21:19:18 | dc_ | man if only a7r hurried up, I could take some screenshots of Storm for the site. |
| 21:19:37 | dc_ | nikos: yes..? |
| 21:19:54 | nikos | was just referring to the network split. |
| 21:20:03 | dc_ | hehe |
| 21:20:24 | dc_ | opn need some better lighting protection |
| 21:21:02 | nikos | bipolar: I'm tired of hearing about broken opie links. :P |
| 21:22:09 | dc_ | hehe |
| 21:22:15 | dc_ | silly bipolar |
| 21:22:34 | DaveH | ok isolated thunderstorms in my area sunday ;-> |
| 21:22:58 | dc_ | :} |
| 21:24:17 | dc_ | 1034Ml rain and 78 thunder strikes tomorrow. |
| 21:24:43 | DaveH | dc_: if my wife asks your forceing me to go out storm hunting ok ... Grins |
| 21:24:44 | dc_ | accurate prediction |
| 21:25:01 | dc_ | DaveH: yeah :P! |
| 21:25:18 | dc_ | DaveH: you're fault if you get hit though! |
| 21:25:33 | nikos | Dealing with pics would be much easier if I could just get my frigging cf card mounted on the ipaq. |
| 21:25:37 | DaveH | Grins ... |
| 21:25:50 | dc_ | :D |
| 21:26:13 | dc_ | DaveH: well, it's certianly be a fun sunday :} |
| 21:26:31 | DaveH | Anyway my sf id dave_hall |
| 21:27:01 | DaveH | Yea ill prolly go out tommorow to look ofr hopefull sites and spend sat/sun looking at the radar pics |
| 21:31:41 | dc_ | DaveH: okay, you're fully added :) |
| 21:32:07 | DaveH | cool ill submit the module once I get a bit more done .. |
| 21:32:48 | dc_ | DaveH: :D |
| 21:34:13 | DaveH | dc_: my email is Dave@HumanPenguin.org |
| 21:35:15 | dc_ | DaveH: cool. |
| 21:35:21 | dc_ | DaveH: dctanner@magenet.com |
| 22:09:36 | mAdn3ss | Anybody know which cvs tag for the 0.5.1 release |
| 22:10:06 | nikos | mAdn3ss: Huh? For what package? Can't store an entire dist in CVS. |
| 22:10:21 | mAdn3ss | the kernel |
| 22:10:50 | nikos | mAdn3ss: Well, what version of the kernel do you want? You can use uname -a to see what version you are currently running? |
| 22:11:12 | mAdn3ss | ? |
| 22:11:47 | nikos | The kernel version isn't fixed, you can update it. You want the one that comes by default? |
| 22:11:51 | nikos | 2.4.16-rmk1? |
| 22:12:00 | nikos | 2.4.16-rmk1-hh15 actually |
| 22:12:01 | mAdn3ss | yes |
| 22:12:19 | mAdn3ss | we tried that tag and it keeps saying no such tag |
| 22:12:27 | nikos | K2-4-16-rmk1-hh15 |
| 22:12:36 | nikos | Best way to find tags is to use ViewCVS |
| 22:12:43 | nikos | http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/linux/kernel/ |
| 22:12:52 | nikos | And use the drop down at the bottom. |
| 22:12:56 | mAdn3ss | thanks |
| 22:13:08 | nikos | Sure, note that kernel is kind of old now. |
| 22:16:52 | mAdn3ss | do you know if anyone has had luck building prism2 AP driver from ssh.com? |
| 22:17:53 | nikos | mAdn3ss: Don't know. What card are you trying to get to work? My Prism2 card works with no configuration right out from the default image. |
| 22:18:03 | nikos | SMC 2632W |
| 22:18:23 | mAdn3ss | yeah, we are working on Access Point mode though. There are only a couple drivers that support it |
| 22:18:25 | nikos | Occasional NETDEV Watchdog timeouts, but bearable. |
| 22:18:34 | nikos | Ah yes, OK. Havent' tried that. |
| 22:19:32 | mAdn3ss | ok, thanks for your help. we'll give it a try |
| 22:56:06 | dc__ | oh eh DaveH |
| 22:56:10 | dc__ | DaveH: #storm :) |
| 22:56:26 | DaveH | dc_: hi |
| 22:56:53 | DaveH | dc_: how may I help you |
| 22:59:19 | colin_ | DaveH: please join #storm, dc wanted to say :) |
| 23:57:45 | DaveH | is away: I'm busy |