| 00:13:36 | rhuk | ello? |
| 00:14:10 | rhuk | how much of a pain in the ass is it going to be using familiar on an ipaq with no internet connection? |
| 00:14:18 | rhuk | just wandering if its worth installing or not |
| 02:57:00 | Ben | hello! Anyone know how to get /var/log/messages to show up on a familiar install? |
| 03:03:39 | luiscastro | how do you mean? Do you have syslog installed? |
| 03:04:35 | Ryback_ | Ben: If you have syslog installed, then man syslog.conf is your friend |
| 03:07:04 | Ben | I'll check in a second...just realized that make modules_install breaks cause the depmod doesn't like the cross-compiled modules.... |
| 03:08:52 | Ben | ipkg search syslog gives nothing useful, btw |
| 08:29:35 | | somebody said ssh-keygen was something you need to run to setup my ipaq's host keys. To do this run the following on my ipaq:'/usr/bin/ssh-keygen -b 1024 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key -N ""' and '/usr/bin/ssh-keygen -d -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key -N ""' |
| 08:29:35 | root | ibot ssh-keygen |
| 09:32:19 | pawlak | hello |
| 09:34:01 | _PheniX_ | is anybody here ? |
| 09:34:52 | _PheniX_ | I'm looking for some information about the familiar project |
| 09:35:24 | a7r | sure. |
| 09:35:35 | _PheniX_ | ah ! :-) |
| 09:36:30 | _PheniX_ | well.. I'm searching a linux release for an iPaq 3870 |
| 09:37:12 | _PheniX_ | I saw that familiar works on the 3600 but does it also on the 3870 ? |
| 09:37:29 | _PheniX_ | runs (not works) (sorry for my english) |
| 09:38:53 | a7r | _PheniX_: look here: http://www.handhelds.org/projects/h3800.html |
| 09:39:12 | _PheniX_ | ok thank you |
| 09:40:14 | _PheniX_ | argh :-/ no bluetooth support... |
| 09:40:21 | _PheniX_ | thank you for your help ! |
| 09:40:26 | a7r | no problem. |
| 09:58:58 | bostik | is there something like rsh for familiar ?? |
| 09:59:07 | a7r | there's ssh |
| 09:59:21 | bostik | rcp ?? |
| 09:59:25 | a7r | scp |
| 09:59:31 | bostik | scp sorry :) |
| 09:59:44 | bostik | it works like rsh but secure ? |
| 09:59:54 | a7r | http://www.openssh.org |
| 10:00:03 | bostik | ok sorry for my bad english |
| 10:00:10 | bostik | thanx |
| 13:19:35 | _PheniX_ | hello again |
| 13:20:08 | _PheniX_ | I'm backing up wince now and have a new question |
| 13:20:51 | _PheniX_ | I downloaded task-bootstrap-2.4.17-rmk4-hh5.jffs2 but... |
| 13:21:30 | _PheniX_ | I couldn't find what I have to do with this file |
| 13:22:40 | _PheniX_ | where (when) do I have to use it ? |
| 13:37:29 | MikeNidd | _PheniX_: You'll want to install the bootloader first, then you can flash this image with "load root". Have a look at the http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/ documentation on installation |
| 14:18:01 | _PheniX_ | thanks mikenidd |
| 14:18:45 | MikeNidd | No prob. |
| 14:39:28 | newbee | hello there... i have a big prob. i dont know what todo... |
| 14:43:25 | newbee | no one there ? |
| 14:45:05 | MikeNidd | They are probably all waiting to hear what the problem is. |
| 14:45:24 | newbee | oops ;) |
| 14:45:53 | newbee | i have tried to install animail, get an error and now i have no more space on device / before this aktion i had about 1900kb free |
| 14:46:46 | newbee | if i try to log in with minicom, i get the following messages rolling down the screen : Argh. No free space left for GC. nr_erasing_blocks is 0. nr_free_blocks is 0. () |
| 14:46:47 | newbee | jffs2_reserve_space_gc of 196 bytes for garbage_collect_dnode failed: -28 |
| 14:49:34 | newbee | i dont know if its matter : i have installed nvrd ago 2 days |
| 14:50:01 | MikeNidd | Ouch. if JFFS2 has no space left for garbage collection, that would be a very bad thing. I would have expected that to prevent any further file write or erase actions. |
| 14:51:12 | newbee | okay, but where is the space ;) ?? before i have clicked the "install animail button" in storm i had about 1900kb ? |
| 14:51:48 | newbee | maybe ipkg or storm created something ? btw: sorry for my bad english .... |
| 14:52:55 | newbee | nvrd has ca. 9000 and tmp has ca. 1000 kb free... |
| 14:53:15 | MikeNidd | I am not the person to answer, but my amateur opinion would be that for some reason, jffs wrote over its last erase block without collecting free space. It's not supposed to do that, but it would prevent it from being able to free any further space, even if file writes were aborted. |
| 14:57:08 | newbee | if i understand it right, could it be that ipkg has write some file or storm itself, aborted, and so a too large file somewhere is created ? |
| 14:58:13 | _PheniX_ | hi again |
| 14:59:15 | _PheniX_ | i booted he installation for the first time and have a little question |
| 14:59:52 | _PheniX_ | as indicated in the documentation I tried to run ipkg install_pending |
| 15:00:34 | _PheniX_ | but ipkg.conf doesn't exist |
| 15:01:09 | _PheniX_ | is it okay or have I made a mistake ? |
| 15:02:49 | newbee | hello PheniX, i dont know, but i think install_pending ist wrong... i installed the first step with ipkg install task-x. but are u sure that u havent /etc/ipkg.conf file ? |
| 15:03:09 | _PheniX_ | sure |
| 15:03:27 | newbee | hmm, but ipkg is installed ? |
| 15:03:32 | _PheniX_ | i checked for it and could'nt find it |
| 15:03:49 | _PheniX_ | i think so |
| 15:04:08 | _PheniX_ | if not why is it searching for ipkg.conf ? |
| 15:04:25 | newbee | right ;) |
| 15:04:52 | _PheniX_ | well I'll try again :-) |
| 15:06:49 | _PheniX_ | ... |
| 15:07:28 | _PheniX_ | I couldn't even call "ipkg list" it's searching for the configuration file" |
| 15:07:35 | _PheniX_ | :-/ |
| 15:08:54 | _PheniX_ | what do you have in you /etc/ipkg.conf file ? |
| 15:08:59 | _PheniX_ | your |
| 15:11:16 | Merlin83b | I'm thinking of getting an iPaq (and using familiar) to do stuff on the move. Does anyone know if the GSM/GPRS sleeve works as a modem under Familiar? |
| 15:21:29 | _PheniX_ | well |
| 15:22:58 | _PheniX_ | One question : I've installed the jffs2 for the 3800 series but not the task-bootserial.jffs2 |
| 15:23:20 | _PheniX_ | have I to install the bootserial ? |
| 15:23:24 | _PheniX_ | both ? |
| 15:23:41 | _PheniX_ | the documentation is not clear... :-/ |
| 15:24:32 | _PheniX_ | can anyone help me ? |
| 15:24:33 | newbee | sorry i have never tried it on 3800 series.... i have 3630 but i have installed task-bootstrap from familiar 0.5.2 |
| 15:26:12 | _PheniX_ | for the 3800 it's written that i should use the .....jffs2 for better result, but then I have no ipkg.conf and the meta packages complete, x, wireless... don't exist |
| 15:26:28 | _PheniX_ | i only have crl-familiar and crl-kernel |
| 15:26:51 | _PheniX_ | but still no ipkg.conf :-/ |
| 15:27:02 | _PheniX_ | I'm a bit lost :-) |
| 15:28:41 | newbee | can u try to reinstall but with a task-boot... ? |
| 15:31:10 | newbee | can i delete files from the bootloader ? |
| 15:31:15 | _PheniX_ | yes I can but i want to be sure that it's what i have to do (it takes time to xmodem the image :-/) |
| 15:32:32 | newbee | okay, thats an argument ... ;) |
| 15:35:25 | newbee | for my ipaq, i think i have to reinstall it, because i cant do anything... :(( |
| 15:35:28 | _PheniX_ | :-p |
| 15:35:49 | _PheniX_ | I'm installing the other image |
| 15:36:30 | _PheniX_ | bluetooth is not supported yet isn't it ? |
| 15:37:18 | Merlin83b | It's under the things left to do on the H3800 page |
| 15:37:44 | newbee | i have seen some modules on feeds |
| 15:38:01 | _PheniX_ | merlin : I saw it, but I also saw a module named "bluetooth...." on the ftp site |
| 15:39:53 | Merlin83b | My guess would be in testing then. I'm not an authority though. |
| 15:40:18 | _PheniX_ | what are you using you ipaqs for ? |
| 15:40:59 | Merlin83b | Me? |
| 15:41:01 | _PheniX_ | I'm using it for a research project. |
| 15:41:09 | _PheniX_ | you both (all) |
| 15:41:21 | Merlin83b | I'm not just yet - I'm looking into getting one for remote admin of our web hosting servers when I'm on the move. |
| 15:41:35 | _PheniX_ | merlin ok |
| 15:42:47 | newbee | i "try" to use it for PIM and testing linux on it ! |
| 15:42:53 | Merlin83b | Being kind of concerned that I can't find a web browser that'll run under Familiar though. |
| 15:43:23 | newbee | dillo ? |
| 15:44:22 | newbee | Merlin : is there any way to remove files from bootloader ? |
| 15:44:51 | newbee | i have no more space and i cant remove anything ... |
| 15:44:55 | Merlin83b | dillo would be one :-) Thanks. |
| 15:45:01 | Merlin83b | newbee: I have no idea. |
| 15:45:03 | Merlin83b | Sorry |
| 15:45:23 | Merlin83b | I doubt it though - I would guess that bootloader doesn't grok filesystems |
| 15:46:31 | newbee | yes. but i want close out all ways before i go to kill the system and install it new ! and so i dont know what the error is ! maybe nvrd ?! |
| 15:52:12 | newbee | okay... "load root" again ;) btw: has anyone experience with nvrd ? |
| 15:53:59 | Merlin83b | I don't have a iPAQ yet. How do you type stuff at the loader prompt? |
| 15:54:23 | newbee | what stuff ? "load root" command ? |
| 15:54:29 | Merlin83b | Yeah |
| 15:55:00 | newbee | |
| 15:56:04 | Merlin83b | ? |
| 15:56:06 | newbee | first i do an "partition reset" than "load root" than i start xmodem trnsfer of task-bootstrap.jffs2 file |
| 15:56:31 | Merlin83b | Yeah, but how do you type it, since there's no keyboard, and I'm guessing that writing recognition isn't running by then. |
| 15:56:55 | newbee | now with minicom over serial cable ! |
| 15:58:01 | newbee | you have a serial console on ipaq... |
| 15:58:13 | Merlin83b | Right. |
| 15:58:22 | Merlin83b | So you need a serial cradle, not just the USB one? |
| 15:59:21 | newbee | yes ! but u can make a serial cradle from the USB craddle. i have read it somewhere on web... |
| 15:59:34 | Merlin83b | But you just got a serial one? |
| 16:00:14 | newbee | yes i have a serial and a USB one |
| 16:00:34 | newbee | what type of PDA are u using ? or none ? |
| 16:00:37 | Merlin83b | Okay. So serial console's the only way to input things at the boot prompt? |
| 16:00:47 | Merlin83b | None at the moment, looking into getting an iPAQ |
| 16:00:59 | Merlin83b | Well, I have an old Psion 3c... |
| 16:01:51 | newbee | u can show the bootmessages on lcd if u want ! but i dont know how to input anything... |
| 16:02:06 | newbee | is there an linux for psion ;) ? |
| 16:02:36 | Merlin83b | I doubt it - not much RAM! |
| 16:03:01 | newbee | my ipaq has only 32mb |
| 16:05:01 | Merlin83b | My Psion, top of the range, has 2Mb |
| 16:05:08 | Merlin83b | :-) |
| 16:06:18 | newbee | okay, thats not much ;) |
| 16:13:18 | madnessx | hey all. |
| 16:14:35 | madnessx | I've just installed familiar 0.5.1 on my ipaq 3700 |
| 16:15:01 | madnessx | and am trying to set up a net connect |
| 16:15:16 | madnessx | i can ssh into the ipaq |
| 16:16:55 | madnessx | but my laptop does not seem to be routing data for ipkg |
| 16:16:56 | newbee | madnessx: did u have a network card or did u try over ppp and serial cable/craddle ? |
| 16:17:10 | madnessx | over the serial cable |
| 16:17:19 | newbee | did u get an ip adress for ipaq ? |
| 16:17:45 | newbee | ah yes u get one, u can do ssh right ? |
| 16:17:57 | madnessx | I have my 2.4.18 laptop masquerading for it, or am trying to |
| 16:18:08 | madnessx | yup |
| 16:19:09 | newbee | okay, u need an defaultroute on ipaq and a /etc/resolv.conf containing your dns server. if u do ip forwarding with your laptop u have to set the laptops ip adress as gateway on ipaq |
| 16:19:46 | newbee | please correct me someone if i'am wrong... |
| 16:22:22 | madnessx | I just corrected my resolve.conf on the ipaq |
| 16:22:58 | sascha | and know ? |
| 16:23:10 | madnessx | still missing something |
| 16:23:22 | madnessx | I'll recheck the default route |
| 16:23:22 | sascha | gateway ? |
| 16:23:47 | madnessx | how do I set it? same as default route? |
| 16:24:37 | sascha | to check it "route -n" to set a new "route del default" and than "route add default gw IPADRESS" |
| 16:27:10 | sascha | no luck ? |
| 16:27:15 | madnessx | nope |
| 16:27:28 | madnessx | it must then be my iptables |
| 16:27:40 | madnessx | i think |
| 16:28:19 | sascha | sorry i use ipchains ! |
| 16:28:50 | madnessx | they are cleaner -IMHO |
| 16:29:42 | madnessx | i just wanted to learn tables, I think I have it right thou.... |
| 16:29:43 | sascha | i had never tried iptaples |
| 16:30:18 | madnessx | is there something else I might be missing? |
| 16:33:38 | madnessx | hold up: using the wrong section -- I have an ipmasq box infront of my laptop |
| 16:36:04 | sascha | not your laptop is gateway ? or what do you mean ? |
| 16:36:41 | madnessx | internet <---> firewall machine <-----> laptop <-----> ipaq |
| 16:37:06 | madnessx | firewall is a masq box |
| 16:37:07 | dc__ | madnessx: usbnet or ppp? |
| 16:37:12 | madnessx | ppp |
| 16:37:28 | sascha | but masq should work ! |
| 16:38:05 | madnessx | hey . I know it's been driving me nuts for a few hours now |
| 16:38:47 | sascha | ooops what this : Starting X... |
| 16:38:48 | sascha | iPAQ 3600 |
| 16:38:48 | sascha | Unknown processor type - iPAQ 3600-! |
| 16:38:48 | sascha | xset: unable to open display ":0.0" |
| 16:38:48 | sascha | x-window-manager: Could not connect to X display ':0.0' |
| 16:38:48 | sascha | xset: unable to open display ":0.0" |
| 16:38:50 | sascha | xrdb: No such file or directory |
| 16:38:52 | sascha | xrdb: Can't open display ':0.0' |
| 16:38:54 | sascha | xrdb: No such file or directory |
| 16:38:56 | sascha | xrdb: Can't open display ':0.0' |
| 16:40:27 | sascha | hmm, reboot fixed it ... |
| 16:42:51 | sascha | df |
| 16:44:59 | madnessx | is usb or ppp easier to set up? both require masq I'm sure thou |
| 16:45:32 | sascha | yes ! can u test your masq config with another machine ? |
| 16:46:05 | madnessx | laptop only has one ethernet card |
| 16:46:18 | madnessx | the masq box is on 2.2 |
| 16:46:41 | madnessx | I got the config right of the familiar wiki |
| 16:47:16 | sascha | i do it with ipchains : /sbin/ipchains -A forward -j MASQ -s 192.168.1.201 |
| 16:47:26 | madnessx | It's a striaght forward "rout all, masq al"l kinda thing |
| 16:48:55 | madnessx | iptables -F |
| 16:48:55 | madnessx | iptables -t nat -F |
| 16:48:55 | madnessx | iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.101 -j MASQUERADE |
| 16:48:55 | madnessx | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 16:49:08 | madnessx | iptables -A FORWARD -s 192.168.1.101 -j ACCEPT |
| 16:49:09 | madnessx | iptables -A FORWARD -d 192.168.1.101 -j ACCEPT |
| 16:49:29 | madnessx | is what I have in a script |
| 16:49:48 | madnessx | I've also tried it without the last two lines |
| 16:52:13 | madnessx | sascha: what WM do you use on your ipaq? |
| 16:52:38 | sascha | ion or matchbox ! |
| 16:53:09 | madnessx | have you tried opie? |
| 16:53:12 | sascha | did u have 3660 or 3630 ipaq ? |
| 16:53:16 | dc__ | matchbox ans Storm!!! |
| 16:53:18 | sascha | yes i have ! |
| 16:53:19 | dc__ | ibto storm |
| 16:53:23 | | i guess storm is the all-in-one PIM app written in Python/GTK. See http://storm-pim.sourceforge.net/. Latest CVS ipkgs are at http://ipaq.geekserve.org/storm_cvs. "Make cmarqu's life look organized" (join #storm) or at #storm |
| 16:53:23 | dc__ | ibot storm |
| 16:53:48 | dc__ | madnessx: look at http://storm-pim.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html and decide for yourself :) |
| 16:53:50 | madnessx | i've got a 3765 |
| 16:53:55 | dc__ | madnessx: 0.6 will come out soon. |
| 16:54:35 | sascha | dc__: fine ! whats about storm and email ? |
| 16:54:41 | dc__ | madnessx: also, those screenshots are from it running on my desktop, the ones at http://handhelds.org/scap/ are ones I'm just taking now from my iPAQ. |
| 16:54:45 | dc__ | sascha: it goes. |
| 16:54:56 | dc__ | sascha: 0.6 will use animail, for POP3 and IMAP :) |
| 16:56:47 | sascha | cooool ;)) thats the only thing that i missed on it. btw: did u have experience in using nvrd ? |
| 16:57:16 | dc__ | sascha: err nvrd ;)? |
| 16:57:31 | sascha | madnessx: i have tried opie, its great, but for me with 32mb too big. |
| 16:58:36 | madnessx | all this utils look pretty sweet.... |
| 16:58:45 | sascha | dc__ dont know ! i use it since 2 days... |
| 16:58:46 | dc__ | opie is the scum ;p |
| 16:58:51 | dc__ | runs |
| 16:58:58 | dc__ | sascha: what's it do? |
| 16:59:17 | sascha | i have 32mb and load with mem=22 option |
| 16:59:46 | sascha | so i had around 10mb on tmp and 9mb on nvrd 1,9mb left on / ... |
| 17:01:20 | sascha | tody i have make a mistake (click in storm install animail) ipkg couldnt find that package because i had the wron feeds in ipkg.conf. after this click ipaq gaves a lot of error messages |
| 17:01:38 | madnessx | I'm hopeing to able to squeeze whatever I end up using into the flash rom.... |
| 17:01:39 | sascha | no more space left on jffs2 filesystem... |
| 17:01:58 | madnessx | 32megs i believe |
| 17:02:19 | sascha | i know that isnt much ... :( |
| 17:02:26 | Disconnect | madnessx: take the files you want to use and gzip -3 them all.. that gives a rough estimate of how much flash they'll use. |
| 17:02:41 | Disconnect | (jffs2 is compressed, roughly equiv to gzip -3 each file, as above) |
| 17:02:41 | sascha | maybe i give to much mem to nvrd ? |
| 17:02:57 | Disconnect | sascha: mem in nvrd has nothing to do with jffs2 space... |
| 17:03:30 | Disconnect | nvrd is just "out of band" memory access by the kernel, at the top of what it thinks is normal memory. nothing to do with flash.. |
| 17:03:33 | sascha | okay, then the error must came from ipkg or storm ! |
| 17:05:40 | sascha | what ever, i try it again ... |
| 17:06:40 | Disconnect | hows the write vfat stuff turning out? |
| 17:07:16 | sascha | me ? |
| 17:07:37 | Disconnect | aren't you the sascha that was doing bootldr work? |
| 17:08:48 | madnessx | OKAY! i can ping outside machines with my ipaq but still cant use ipkg? |
| 17:09:03 | sascha | look right, look left ! yes ! i'am ;) sorry, sometimes i didnt undertand all correctly, because of my english ... |
| 17:09:23 | Disconnect | no prob |
| 17:09:41 | Disconnect | weren't you hacking on write vfat a couple weeks ago? |
| 17:10:04 | sascha | no ! sorry ! thats an other sascha ... |
| 17:10:09 | Disconnect | ah |
| 17:12:21 | madnessx | does familiar come with a default text editor? |
| 17:12:28 | sascha | no ! |
| 17:12:41 | madnessx | grrr |
| 17:13:12 | sascha | i use nano ! but for nano u need xkbd because of the CTRL-X options... |
| 17:13:16 | Disconnect | madnessx: it used to have vi .. now it doesn't.. which is a mess. I think vi is going back onto 0.6 or whatever is next |
| 17:14:19 | madnessx | it would prove damn useful.... |
| 17:14:26 | Disconnect | yep. used to be there. |
| 17:14:31 | Disconnect | try doing a ppp install some time w/o it. |
| 17:14:45 | Disconnect | or doing an encryption key for a wireless network. |
| 17:15:05 | madnessx | doing PPP install right now |
| 17:15:14 | Disconnect | without an editor? good luck ;) |
| 17:15:21 | madnessx | thanx |
| 17:16:05 | madnessx | the last thing I need to do is edit my resolve.conf to be a mirror of what I have on my host machine |
| 17:16:12 | Disconnect | vim (in theory) doesn't depend on anything, you might be able to sz it |
| 17:16:20 | sascha | scp ! |
| 17:16:26 | Disconnect | sascha: without a network?? |
| 17:16:30 | sascha | copy it with ssh/scp |
| 17:16:55 | sascha | your ppp connection is working ort not ? |
| 17:17:06 | Disconnect | sascha: he's setting it up. without an editor to set the configs. |
| 17:17:19 | Disconnect | is off again, bbl. |
| 17:18:01 | sascha | if you can ssh to your ipaq you can do an scp of resolf.conf from laptop to ipaq or not ? |
| 17:20:29 | Disconnect | was thinking of sachac my bad :( |
| 17:24:27 | madnessx | Downloading http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.5.1/packages/armv4l/Packages ... |
| 17:24:27 | madnessx | --02:37:20-- http://familiar.handhelds.org:80/familiar/releases/v0.5.1/packages/armv4l/Packages |
| 17:24:27 | madnessx | => `//tmp/ipkg/Packages' |
| 17:24:27 | madnessx | Connecting to familiar.handhelds.org:80... |
| 17:24:27 | madnessx | familiar.handhelds.org: Host not found. |
| 17:24:27 | madnessx | ipkg_download: ERROR: Failed to retrieve http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.5.1/packages/armv4l/Packages, returning |
| 17:24:30 | madnessx | ipkg_update: Error downloading http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.5.1/packages/armv4l/Packages to /usr/lib/ipkg/lists/v0.5.1 |
| 17:24:33 | madnessx | I have the same resolve.conf on my ipaq as my laptop and can ping beyond my firewall |
| 17:24:37 | madnessx | I already used scp to copy the resolve.conf |
| 17:24:57 | Disconnect | can you ping beyond the firewall by name? or just by ip? |
| 17:25:05 | madnessx | ip |
| 17:25:11 | Disconnect | try name |
| 17:26:26 | madnessx | I can ping with name as well |
| 17:26:35 | Disconnect | ping familiar.handhelds.org? |
| 17:26:41 | madnessx | yes |
| 17:26:47 | Disconnect | then try ipkg again |
| 17:26:50 | madnessx | why can't I donload files? |
| 17:26:57 | madnessx | makes no sense..... |
| 17:27:37 | madnessx | now it's working? |
| 17:27:48 | madnessx | I changed nothing.... |
| 17:29:04 | Disconnect | no, you changed something. you got familiar.handhelds.org into the dns cache ;) |
| 17:29:05 | madnessx | does ipkg somehow not resolve ip addresses? |
| 17:29:16 | madnessx | thought so |
| 17:29:24 | Disconnect | ipkg doesn't use addresses. wget does. |
| 17:29:45 | Disconnect | wonders why people insist on looking for complex answers to simple problems ;) |
| 17:30:09 | madnessx | that's a load of crap ( not the explination: ...the problem) |
| 17:30:22 | Disconnect | how long was ppp running? |
| 17:30:33 | madnessx | hours |
| 17:30:44 | Disconnect | hours? yet you were just getting it set up a few minutes ago..? |
| 17:30:59 | madnessx | problems with ping names |
| 17:31:09 | madnessx | didn't now about scp |
| 17:31:14 | madnessx | know |
| 17:31:33 | madnessx | plus I went to bed at 4 am |
| 17:31:48 | madnessx | got up 2 hours ago |
| 17:39:19 | madnessx | got task-x what other packages do you guys like? |
| 17:39:40 | Wooble | hi, does anyone know a place where I can download bluez-2.0 modules for iPAQ? |
| 17:40:00 | Disconnect | madnessx: task-mp3-player bash dillo |
| 17:46:36 | sascha | which menu system you guys use ? gtk-menu ? |
| 17:47:23 | Disconnect | yep\ |
| 17:53:56 | owensn | hey all, i'm having some trouble with my /dev/sound/dsp... it doesnt exist... |
| 17:54:04 | Disconnect | insert the sound modules |
| 17:54:13 | owensn | i believe they are... |
| 17:54:42 | owensn | hmmm... maybe i've spoken too soon |
| 17:57:50 | owensn | when i 'modprobe h3600-uda1341' i get the following error: /lib/modules/2.4.16-rmk1/kernel/drivers/sound/h3600-uda1341.o: init_module: No such file or directory |
| 18:02:16 | owensn | anyone there? just asking... not trying to pester anyone.... :^) |
| 18:04:42 | owensn | if anyone answered me, i didnt get the message, i lost my connection for some reason... |
| 18:05:08 | madnessx | did you install the pakage with that kernel module and modutils? |
| 18:05:25 | owensn | i did the task-complete install... |
| 18:05:35 | owensn | let me check for modutils... |
| 18:06:43 | owensn | still nada... |
| 18:07:39 | madnessx | i juist got my ipaq up and running I dont have any real help for you right now... sorry |
| 18:08:14 | owensn | no problem... |
| 18:14:14 | owensn | anyone other than madnessx around that could help me with the sound?? |
| 18:14:24 | owensn | the sound on my iPaq that is :^) |
| 18:16:40 | minnime | what version of familiar, i am using v0.5.1 and no problems. I have a 3700 series |
| 18:16:57 | owensn | i have a 3800 seris runing 0.5.1 as well |
| 18:17:40 | minnime | my understanding was if you are using a 3800 series you should be using v0.5.2pre1, better 3800 support. see the familiar site for mroe info |
| 18:17:54 | owensn | hmmm thanks, i'll look for that |
| 18:18:45 | minnime | i have qpe 1.5 and familiar with v0.5.1 and i am having problems with the serial sync, anyone else try this? |
| 18:19:09 | sascha | minnime: with ppp connect ? |
| 18:19:22 | minnime | yes |
| 18:19:24 | madnessx | 5.2 is available on the sight for download http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.5.2/ |
| 18:19:41 | owensn | thanks... is there a way to upgrade to that version? |
| 18:20:16 | minnime | "ipkg upgrade unstable" i think |
| 18:20:37 | owensn | ok, thanks |
| 18:20:59 | sascha | try to comment out the "user" and "connect" option from /etc/ppp/peers/ipaq |
| 18:21:42 | minnime | it doesn't use a user? |
| 18:22:41 | sascha | hmm i have installed familiar and ppp works. than i have installed qpe with ppp package, after that it want work ! |
| 18:23:15 | minnime | yea i had problems with that, i remove the ppp from qpe |
| 18:23:36 | sascha | yes, but it doesnt help, i think ! |
| 18:23:57 | sascha | i uncomment the 2 lines and it connect again ! |
| 18:24:27 | minnime | do i need the qpe ppp packed installed to make a sync with the desktop? |
| 18:25:57 | sascha | no i think ! |
| 18:28:08 | minnime | any developers here, how close is v0.6.0 or v0.5.2 from being stable? |
| 18:47:18 | minnime | anyone here get kpacman working? Mine doesn't |
| 18:51:23 | sascha | does somebody know what this mean : "deflateInit failed" ? |
| 18:52:40 | sascha | it fills the screen and than x get killed because "out of memory" ... ??? |
| 21:01:00 | a7r | sup. |
| 21:01:38 | dc__ | not much. |
| 21:01:58 | dc__ | a7r: life goes on, school sucks, familiar ownz/ |
| 21:02:35 | a7r | werd. |
| 21:03:24 | dc__ | a7r: oh, and I finaly found a nice clean gtk theme, it's in unstable gtk-engines-xenophilia |
| 21:03:39 | a7r | cool. |
| 21:39:24 | sascha | quit |
| 23:32:08 | kd5ftn | Hi |
| 23:33:03 | kd5ftn | I'm interested in Dualbooting PocketPC/Familiar. I understand the first step is to install the bootloader.. In the Familiar install, it said you can use USB, but it needs to be configured.. how? |
| 23:35:37 | kd5ftn | "USB cradle modified to do RS232 serial." How do I modify it? |
| 23:37:05 | kd5ftn | I see, Shy group... |
| 23:39:38 | Disconnect | kd5ftn: #handhelds.org but as to the mods.. search the wiki.. |
| 23:39:42 | Disconnect | ibot: search for serial |
| 23:40:35 | kd5ftn | thx |
| 23:41:51 | Disconnect | is checking but ibot is still full of crap |