| 10:37:20 | Fendor | is away: Walking dog |
| 10:43:06 | Fendor | is away: Found key. Walking dog. |
| 10:50:04 | Fendor | is back (gone 00:06:58) |
| 11:45:33 | Fendor | is away: Working matters. |
| 13:12:32 | Fendor | is back (gone 01:27:00) |
| 14:56:57 | Serp | hullo all |
| 14:57:18 | Serp | I have a stowd problem. Anyone free to help, please? |
| 14:59:03 | Serp | (I have read the docs :) ) |
| 16:38:09 | foolonthehill | Hi, folks! |
| 16:39:53 | foolonthehill | Is there any read tool for e-books of the gutenberg project? |
| 18:28:38 | Phrot | Helo |
| 18:29:09 | Phrot | anyone need help |
| 18:37:44 | esalazar | Hi |
| 18:38:24 | esalazar | I'm trying to get familiar connected via orinoco 802.11b pcmcia. But having problems. |
| 18:39:16 | esalazar | When I insert the card into the sleeve, I get cardmgr[78]: socket 0: Anonymous Memory |
| 18:39:31 | esalazar | and cardmgr[78]: executing: 'modprobe memory_cs' |
| 18:39:38 | esalazar | cardmgr[78]: + modprobe: Can't locate module memory_cs |
| 18:40:08 | esalazar | Why is it trying to load my wireless card as "Anonymous Memory"? |
| 18:40:33 | esalazar | When I insert my Kingston HDD, that doesn't work either. |
| 18:41:43 | esalazar | It correctly idenifies it as ide_cs but then fails because of unresolved symbols ide_unregister and ide_register |
| 18:42:07 | Phrot | what ipaq are you using ? |
| 18:42:18 | esalazar | In both cases (wireless and HDD) it then says cardmgr[78]: get dev info on socket 0 failed: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 18:42:26 | esalazar | Phrot: 3670 |
| 18:43:17 | Phrot | I am thinking e that something is wrong with the way the the modules are installed or the Kernel is compiled ? |
| 18:43:45 | esalazar | Phrot: I just installed Familiar v0.5.1 task-bootnet.jffs2. |
| 18:44:19 | Phrot | usually this happens because a redirect is pointing to the wrong device |
| 18:44:29 | esalazar | To start out, I just want wireless networking, ssh, and ipkg. This package seemed like the right one. |
| 18:44:58 | esalazar | Phrot: Did I install incorrectly or is this something with the familiar version I am using? |
| 18:45:50 | Phrot | letme check |
| 18:50:34 | Phrot | Esalazar are you trying to install Intimate ? |
| 18:50:46 | esalazar | Phrot: no. |
| 18:51:30 | esalazar | Phrot: I just want a basic familiar that I can ssh to over 802.11 so that I can install/remove whatever and try different packages out eaisly |
| 18:55:16 | a7r | what card are you using? |
| 18:55:55 | esalazar | a7r: Orinoco silver. It works fine on my desktop RH7.2. |
| 18:56:30 | Phrot | Esalazar have you tried using the bootstrap.jffs2? |
| 18:58:35 | esalazar | Phrot: no. Should I? |
| 19:00:14 | esalazar | Anyone else know what is going on with my pcmcia? The sleeve is initialized and working properly. Cards are inserted and ejected properly (it seems), but no cards can actually be loaded correctly. |
| 19:01:04 | a7r | esalazar: is it charged up? |
| 19:01:20 | a7r | Orinocos will ``just work'' if your hardware is in working order. |
| 19:01:24 | esalazar | a7r: yes |
| 19:01:59 | esalazar | at the serial terminal, I'm able kick around the os with out problems |
| 19:02:49 | esalazar | Both these cards work in pocket PC (recently deleted) and my desktop pc running linux. So I don't think I have a hardware problem. |
| 19:04:10 | esalazar | This sleeve was recently warranteed by compaq. Is there a possability that they sent me something different? Although the insertion and removal of cards doesn't seem to be the problem. It is the cards themselves that don't work. |
| 19:05:36 | a7r | esalazar: you usually only see that when there's power problems to the cards.. i.e. the sleeve isn't fully charged. if you've double checked that, then I'm not sure what to tell you.. ask the mailing list. |
| 19:06:20 | esalazar | Oh, the sleeve may not be fully charged. I think that is ok too actually. |
| 19:06:41 | a7r | plug it into the wall, and try again. |
| 19:06:42 | a7r | also reboot it, to be sure. |
| 19:06:52 | esalazar | a7r: would it be worth it to try out the bootstrap image or is that basically the same thing? |
| 19:07:18 | a7r | it's the same thing. |
| 19:07:38 | esalazar | hmm |
| 19:08:45 | esalazar | I plugged in the power charger and same thing. Here is the full output from inserting the ide card: |
| 19:08:59 | esalazar | cardmgr[78]: socket 0: ATA/IDE Fixed Disk |
| 19:09:06 | esalazar | cardmgr[78]: executing: 'modprobe ide-cs' |
| 19:09:14 | esalazar | cardmgr[78]: + /lib/modules/2.4.16-rmk1/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-cs.o: unresolved |
| 19:09:21 | esalazar | symbol ide_unregister |
| 19:09:27 | a7r | that's not a PCMCIA problem.. you just don't have the right kernel modules installed. |
| 19:09:28 | esalazar | cardmgr[78]: + /lib/modules/2.4.16-rmk1/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-cs.o: unresolved |
| 19:09:42 | esalazar | symbol ide_register |
| 19:09:50 | esalazar | cardmgr[78]: + /lib/modules/2.4.16-rmk1/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-cs.o: insmod /li |
| 19:09:58 | esalazar | modules/2.4.16-rmk1/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-cs.o failed |
| 19:10:12 | esalazar | a7r: shouldn't those have been included in the image? |
| 19:10:16 | a7r | http://ipkgfind.handhelds.org |
| 19:10:20 | a7r | no,.. not necessarily. |
| 19:10:48 | esalazar | # modprobe ide_unregister |
| 19:10:55 | esalazar | modprobe: Can't locate module ide_unregister |
| 19:11:11 | a7r | ide_unregister isn't a module.. it's a symbol from a module. |
| 19:11:20 | esalazar | oh. |
| 19:11:53 | esalazar | Why should there be unresolved symbols? ide-cs is installed. |
| 19:12:11 | a7r | because it depends |
| 19:12:46 | a7r | on ide-modules as well.. |
| 19:12:57 | a7r | ide-cs just provides the PCMCIA card services interface.. |
| 19:13:41 | esalazar | what are the modules for the orinoco card? Maybe I could load them manually if cardmgr is incorrectly identifying my 802.11 card as "Anonymous memory". |
| 19:14:25 | a7r | that's not a module issue.. that's either a bug, or the card isn't getting enough power. |
| 19:14:58 | a7r | good luck.. |
| 19:15:02 | a7r | is away: lunch |
| 19:52:40 | esalazar | Is there anything like a text editor that comes with the bootstrap image? |
| 19:57:11 | esalazar | Is there anything like a text editor that comes with the bootstrap image? |
| 20:22:55 | kergoth | post/pre inst/rm scripts dont work well when using offline_root do they? |
| 20:23:58 | kergoth | I should write a quick script that either chroots and runs them there, or creates a init.d script in the offline root to run all the postinsts on the first boot |
| 20:24:49 | kergoth | course the chroot wouldnt work right due to different archs.. |
| 20:24:50 | kergoth | mutters |
| 20:45:36 | cworth | kergoth: if the scripts are "offline-root aware", they can work, (ipkg exports an environment variable). But that's just a hack. ipkg will do it's own chrooting soon. |
| 20:47:02 | kergoth | ah, gotcha. PKG_ROOT the one in question? |
| 20:47:16 | kergoth | or is that only for dests? |