| 00:34:14 | baub | Evening guys. Can someone answer a (hopefully) quick wireless networking question on a new familiar install? |
| 00:54:37 | honeypea | baub? i dunno if youre still here.. i can try? |
| 00:57:25 | baub | Hey Honeypea. Still here. |
| 00:57:31 | honeypea | :) |
| 00:58:10 | honeypea | need help getting wireless up initially? |
| 00:59:47 | baub | I loaded Bootloader 2.18.01 and then loaded task-bootnet.jffs2 but it generated some errors on boot about a missing pcmcia.o file. |
| 01:00:58 | baub | So I loaded task-bootstrap.jffs2 but now I get a couple of errors "pcmcia_core already exists" and "sa1100_cs already exists" and no network interface in ifconfig (aside from lo of course) |
| 01:02:10 | honeypea | i dont think those errors matter |
| 01:02:21 | honeypea | well, um probably :) |
| 01:02:37 | honeypea | have you set up your ESSID and wep key in /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts or similar? |
| 01:03:32 | baub | Okay. Further along I get "can't locate module prism2_cs" and /lib/modules/2.4.16-rmk1/pcmcia/prism2_cs.o not available" |
| 01:03:52 | baub | And prism2_cs.o isn't there either! Where does that come from? |
| 01:04:12 | honeypea | hm its a prism card? |
| 01:04:24 | honeypea | im using a lucent/orinoco, so its loaded wvlan_cs for me |
| 01:05:11 | baub | It is a D-Link CF card so it is a Prism2 chipset |
| 01:05:39 | honeypea | ok.. hm |
| 01:05:56 | honeypea | the only reference to prism i can see in /etc/pmcia is in wlan-ng.conf |
| 01:06:25 | honeypea | all i did honestly was hack up wireless.opts to set my ESSID etc for my card - for the right MAC range |
| 01:07:07 | baub | The install instructions did look to hint that it was that easy. I suspect it will be if I could find the Prism2 library... |
| 01:07:09 | honeypea | i take it there really isn't a prism2_cs.o? |
| 01:07:22 | honeypea | oh wait: |
| 01:07:32 | honeypea | ipkg install prism2-modules-2.4.18-rmk3 |
| 01:07:37 | honeypea | or |
| 01:07:43 | honeypea | the equiv for your kernel version |
| 01:07:54 | honeypea | if it exists |
| 01:08:18 | honeypea | you might need the 2.4.18 kernel.. guessing now |
| 01:09:42 | baub | I tried the ipkg install but it is looking for a network connection to pull it from the website (nice catch 22). I imagine I could download it to my laptop and then xmodem it up. Off hand do you know how to setup the recv end on the iPAQ? |
| 01:10:43 | honeypea | i think.. rz |
| 01:10:46 | honeypea | i havent done it |
| 01:10:56 | honeypea | gosh, i sound like i know what im talking about |
| 01:11:04 | honeypea | i think rz will do it :) |
| 01:11:12 | baub | That looks encouraging thanks. You have me fooled :-) |
| 01:11:17 | honeypea | laughs |
| 01:11:25 | honeypea | ive only had it installed two days :) |
| 01:11:52 | baub | What are you doing with it now that it is installed? |
| 01:12:03 | honeypea | trying to get bluetooth working right now :) |
| 01:12:26 | honeypea | how do you stop rz? i just tried it on my ipaq for you and i cant stop it :) |
| 01:12:45 | baub | Sweet. What other Bluetooth device(s) do you have to connect with? |
| 01:13:04 | baub | I am letting my rz session sit until I get the pkg ready to upload... |
| 01:13:08 | honeypea | fights rz |
| 01:13:15 | honeypea | um, an ericsson t39m.. |
| 01:13:30 | honeypea | its kind of scary, you need to make a change to the bluetooth chip.. |
| 01:13:40 | baub | What kind of change? |
| 01:13:47 | honeypea | have you installed familiar before? |
| 01:14:23 | honeypea | oh, write stuff to permanent registers: apparently it changes the bluetooth protocol from H4 to BSCP |
| 01:14:31 | honeypea | i could pretend i know what that means if you like |
| 01:15:14 | honeypea | this is terribly exciting, it can see my phone :) |
| 01:15:47 | baub | Are you figuring this out on your own or is there a FAQ to go by? |
| 01:16:13 | honeypea | oh god its a horror! i eventually found this, which is a really good starter: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~gvijay/bluez.html |
| 01:16:24 | honeypea | you have to be very careful when using pskey |
| 01:16:41 | honeypea | ive got to the bottom of that page, i need to know what to do next now :) |
| 01:16:49 | honeypea | have you installed familiar before, baub? |
| 01:17:21 | baub | No, this is my first attempt at familiar. I must say it is very impressive so far. |
| 01:17:33 | honeypea | have you seen opie yet? |
| 01:18:29 | baub | I assume you don't mean that freckled kid from that b&w show... No I haven't. |
| 01:18:43 | honeypea | im not sure i know that opie :) |
| 01:19:02 | honeypea | oh wow.. well if you're impressed now, it'll bowl you over |
| 01:19:42 | honeypea | if.. you want another palmtop type environment, rather than a specific use for your ipaq.. |
| 01:22:30 | baub | It looks pretty good. I think I may be able to use it to successfully replace my WinCE driven iPAQ. |
| 01:23:21 | honeypea | i'll be honest, when i started 2 (3?) days ago, i was just aiming to have a look and go back - but im staying with opie now :) |
| 01:23:46 | honeypea | i can nearly do everything i could do with WinCE, the last few im working on, and i can do lots of new stuff |
| 01:24:07 | baub | I was planning on leaving my 3650 as a wireless auditor and buying a 3800 for WinCE tools. This would be much less expensive! |
| 01:24:14 | honeypea | and most importantly, im very impressed with how these geniuses are developing stuff.. its coming on leaps and bounds all the time |
| 01:24:36 | honeypea | was it you who mentioned using kismet on it..? |
| 01:24:53 | baub | It is very impressive how fast they have surpassed the existing WinCE capabilities with truly useful utilities. Yes kismet is next on my list of installs. |
| 01:25:14 | honeypea | i looked at kismet after you mentioned it - installed it on linux - looks good :) |
| 01:25:27 | honeypea | id previously used ministumbler on WinCE.. |
| 01:25:58 | baub | Showoff. |
| 01:26:04 | honeypea | what! |
| 01:26:07 | honeypea | giggles |
| 01:26:21 | honeypea | i feel like a total beginner here, shh. |
| 01:26:47 | honeypea | can i ask why you have a 2.4.16 kernel? 0.5.2 comes with 2.4.18 |
| 01:27:38 | baub | Dunno. All I did was download and install task-bootstrap.jffs2 from handhelds.org |
| 01:27:47 | honeypea | oh heck. |
| 01:28:00 | honeypea | i downloaded via the "standard" pages and it downloaded 0.5.1 |
| 01:28:14 | honeypea | then i came in here and they said "oh dont follow THAT - the latest is 0.5.2" |
| 01:28:23 | honeypea | and i had to reinstall |
| 01:28:31 | honeypea | (grr) |
| 01:28:37 | baub | Where did you get 0.5.2? |
| 01:29:15 | honeypea | http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.5.2/ |
| 01:30:08 | baub | I didn't pay close attention to which page I downloaded it from, but I thought it was 0.5.2 |
| 01:30:22 | honeypea | oh - i dont know how to check |
| 01:30:37 | honeypea | but 0.5.2 comes with 2.4.18 i think |
| 01:30:47 | spung_ | is away: sleeping sucks quando um gajo esta com a pica para fazer alguma coisa de jeito |
| 01:30:50 | honeypea | all i know is, at least two days ago the main link still pointed to 0.5.1 |
| 01:30:58 | baub | More importantly does it come with prism2_cs.o? :-) |
| 01:31:10 | honeypea | yes :) well with modules for it |
| 01:31:15 | honeypea | as above |
| 01:41:17 | ArthurDent | hello is my link still working? |
| 01:41:55 | honeypea | hi ArthurDent yes |
| 01:41:55 | baub | Hey ArthurDent. Link works this far... |
| 01:42:09 | ArthurDent | thanks |
| 02:05:35 | baub | Well it looks like I might need to update to the 2.4.18 kernel. I tried installing the Prism2-modules.ipk but there are some unresolved links. |
| 02:06:27 | honeypea | baub, i was told you cant upgrade - need to install 0.5.2 |
| 02:08:19 | baub | Sorry. That is what I meant. I am uploading the jfffs2 file now. |
| 02:08:28 | honeypea | nods |
| 02:09:36 | baub | It is much easier to "upgrade" when there are no files to be preserved :-) |
| 02:09:48 | honeypea | yes :) |
| 02:10:07 | honeypea | ok, its after 3am and ive got my bluetooth devices paired.. just no dialling :) tomorrow |
| 02:10:23 | honeypea | bye x |
| 02:10:29 | baub | Congratulations. Thanks for your help. I will let you know if it works... |
| 02:10:29 | honeypea | (good luck baub) |
| 02:10:32 | honeypea | DO! |
| 02:10:34 | honeypea | bye |
| 04:10:48 | Unununium | Hello. |
| 04:11:30 | Unununium | ;^) |
| 04:14:08 | Unununium | Hmm, it's a bit slow... |
| 04:14:21 | Unununium | I have work to do. See ya. Good luck with your projects. |
| 05:29:12 | ron | anyone here dualboot? |
| 09:35:55 | spung_ | is back (gone 08:05:10) |
| 10:29:02 | spung[bahh] | is away: actually, I *am* here. I'm just not paying attention to you |
| 12:47:13 | spung | is back (gone 00:09:46) |
| 15:22:24 | spung[away] | is away: actually, I *am* here. I'm just not paying attention to you |
| 19:29:46 | sgodsell | is away: Have to go to a meeting :( |
| 19:40:47 | yi | hi |
| 19:41:03 | yi | anyone there? |
| 19:41:17 | Wooble | maybe :) |
| 19:41:22 | yi | is this the right plae to discuss familiar on the ipaq? |
| 19:41:24 | yi | ok LOL |
| 19:41:30 | Wooble | yi: yep |
| 19:41:34 | yi | cool |
| 19:41:39 | yi | there are two of us here actually |
| 19:41:49 | Wooble | ? |
| 19:41:51 | yi | im rick rodgers at the u.s. national library of medicine |
| 19:41:56 | yi | and summer student yi zhao |
| 19:42:12 | yi | we are workgin together on a project to get familar up |
| 19:42:24 | yi | on our ipaqs, then try some experiment with videoconferencing |
| 19:42:24 | Wooble | good choice :) |
| 19:42:30 | yi | using the ucl video tools |
| 19:42:35 | yi | i hope so! 8^) |
| 19:42:51 | yi | we foudn out about this chat site from the familiar web site |
| 19:42:58 | Wooble | yi: you've checked out the WiKi pages? |
| 19:42:58 | primal39 | three of us |
| 19:43:26 | yi | wiki pages? not yet no |
| 19:43:40 | yi | we definitely ned some more hand-holding as the written stuff we |
| 19:43:50 | yi | find thus far is awfully breif for the newbie |
| 19:44:45 | yi | where ar4 the wiki pages? |
| 19:45:27 | Wooble | moment |
| 19:45:49 | Wooble | http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/ |
| 19:45:58 | yi | thanks! |
| 19:46:03 | yi | well go there now |
| 19:46:18 | Wooble | http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/SearchPage |
| 19:46:21 | Wooble | much better |
| 19:46:27 | yi | ok well try that too 8^) |
| 19:46:32 | Wooble | there is some stuff about videoLAN |
| 19:46:37 | Wooble | that should help you out |
| 19:47:10 | yi | right now the main thing we need is lots of help figuring out how to install the familiar package itself |
| 19:47:23 | Wooble | ipkg |
| 19:47:27 | yi | not having done it before, the written instructions are a bit sketchy for us |
| 19:47:33 | Wooble | its a tool like apt-get on debian... |
| 19:48:18 | yi | yeah well im talking aout the stuff b4 you can ven use ipkg |
| 19:48:34 | Wooble | like networking? |
| 19:48:35 | yi | using the boot loader to get the familiar core pkg into the machine |
| 19:48:42 | Wooble | choose yourself wireless/usb/serial |
| 19:48:50 | yi | as described on the familiar web site |
| 19:48:57 | yi | serial |
| 19:48:58 | primal39 | boot loader stage? serial cradle |
| 19:49:02 | yi | for now |
| 19:49:05 | Wooble | oh that |
| 19:49:24 | yi | yeah that 8^) |
| 19:50:05 | Wooble | now, actually, I always make a friend of me doing that |
| 19:50:14 | Wooble | I'm more the networking guy... |
| 19:50:35 | yi | ahhhh ok |
| 19:50:41 | yi | well bug you when we get to that bit then 8^) |
| 19:50:55 | Wooble | but I'd think that the WiKi has some clear instructions |
| 19:51:01 | primal39 | if you follow the installation instructions on the familiar page, you should have no problems |
| 19:51:19 | yi | well we'vegone over them repeatedly |
| 19:51:30 | yi | i suspect they make perfect snese to someone who has been throught the process once before |
| 19:51:34 | primal39 | ok, where are you having problems? |
| 19:51:39 | yi | but to us, they are a bit vague.... |
| 19:51:57 | yi | fair (and kind) question |
| 19:52:22 | yi | maybe what we need is to chat a bit on phone with someone who |
| 19:52:23 | primal39 | I'm willing to help, just need to know where to start :-) |
| 19:52:30 | yi | has done it, just to make sure we understand the process correctly |
| 19:52:42 | yi | we'd hate end up with the imfamous "brick" lol |
| 19:52:48 | primal39 | very unlikely |
| 19:52:56 | yi | thats reassuring thanks 8^) |
| 19:53:11 | yi | so we got our PC with redhat |
| 19:53:16 | yi | we plug in our cradle right? |
| 19:53:27 | primal39 | wait |
| 19:53:30 | primal39 | before you even go that far |
| 19:53:33 | yi | set up the line as instructd at the familiar |
| 19:53:53 | primal39 | did you install the CRL bootloader? the newest verstion ? |
| 19:53:55 | yi | yes? I KNEW we were missgin stuff lol |
| 19:54:06 | yi | hang on... |
| 19:54:16 | primal39 | that's the first and MOST IMPORTANT step |
| 19:54:34 | primal39 | can I make a suggestion? |
| 19:55:00 | yi | please do |
| 19:55:17 | yi | we have downloaded the CRL bootloader |
| 19:55:21 | primal39 | if you have the option, do the initial installation stuff on a windows box...I've found minicom to be a bitch about xmodem transfers, whereas hyperterminal is really nice |
| 19:55:25 | primal39 | ok, install that |
| 19:55:33 | yi | 2.18.01, the latst on the famillare site |
| 19:55:38 | primal39 | yep |
| 19:55:52 | yi | too late we've got linux |
| 19:56:05 | yi | so one woudl use minicom for the xmodem transfers? but its ugley??? |
| 19:56:15 | primal39 | ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/linux/dists/compaq/ipaq/stable/install.html |
| 19:56:18 | Wooble | yep, the best is to install it on windows |
| 19:56:27 | primal39 | there's your bootloader installation instructions |
| 19:56:36 | yi | great well get that |
| 19:56:54 | Wooble | windows manages to do it just fine, while the Linux's minicom needs carefull configging |
| 19:57:18 | primal39 | exactly |
| 19:58:00 | yi | this is great -- much better to talk to guys like you who have actually DONE it |
| 19:58:12 | yi | than blindly trust written instructions |
| 19:58:15 | primal39 | now once you get the initial installation stuff done with the windows box (installing bootloader, reset partition, xmodem the bootstrap, and boot) you will want to move the ipaq to the redhat box |
| 19:58:25 | yi | i see |
| 19:58:56 | primal39 | make sure the redhat box has iptables, and ppp compiled into it's kernel (shouldn't be an issue) |
| 19:59:32 | yi | so first step shoudl be to use hyperterminal on a windos box to install the bootloader? |
| 19:59:48 | yi | is hyperterminal part of windows or an extra piece of locallyinstalled software? |
| 19:59:49 | primal39 | that way, once the raw linux is on the ipaq, you'll be able to move it over to the linux box, set up NAT, and finish the install |
| 20:00:02 | primal39 | START-RUN-hypertrm |
| 20:00:15 | primal39 | it should be installed by default, if not, it comes with windows |
| 20:00:41 | yi | hi,..this is yi |
| 20:00:49 | primal39 | ok.... |
| 20:01:05 | yi | we are trying to take note of all this |
| 20:01:16 | primal39 | fair enough.... to recap |
| 20:01:31 | yi | i got what you have so far |
| 20:01:36 | primal39 | alright |
| 20:01:39 | yi | thanx |
| 20:01:44 | primal39 | no problem |
| 20:01:55 | yi | would you mind if we talk over phone |
| 20:02:14 | primal39 | can't, believe it or not I don't have access to one right now |
| 20:02:28 | yi | i c... |
| 20:02:29 | primal39 | I'm a college student, sitting at work |
| 20:02:40 | yi | oh... |
| 20:02:42 | yi | me too |
| 20:02:52 | yi | but i don't know about all this like you do |
| 20:03:03 | primal39 | only reason I know is trial and error |
| 20:03:09 | yi | i c |
| 20:03:13 | Wooble | expecially error |
| 20:03:14 | Wooble | :) |
| 20:03:17 | primal39 | nah |
| 20:03:35 | yi | haha.... |
| 20:03:44 | Wooble | I have done a lot of ugly things with my system, and it still runs, so... |
| 20:03:50 | primal39 | mine too |
| 20:03:55 | yi | i c... |
| 20:04:07 | yi | well are you on here a lot...? |
| 20:04:21 | Wooble | the last few days actually |
| 20:04:29 | Wooble | it's kinda quiet in here |
| 20:04:32 | yi | yea |
| 20:05:02 | primal39 | it seems more people have been actually chatting in #handhelds.org, but this is the place for specific familiar help |
| 20:05:22 | yi | well...i think rick and i are gonna try your instructions...if we still run into trouble ...do you mind we come back for help? |
| 20:05:42 | Wooble | you can still try the #ipaq schannel |
| 20:05:52 | yi | ok |
| 20:05:53 | Wooble | or the #intimate , if I'm corect |
| 20:05:54 | primal39 | I'll be here |
| 20:06:08 | yi | ok...thats good to hear |
| 20:06:20 | yi | we surely will run into trouble... |
| 20:06:23 | primal39 | well, to be fair, only till 4:30 |
| 20:06:30 | primal39 | just make sure you do the bootloader FIRST |
| 20:06:32 | yi | please expect us back : ) |
| 20:06:34 | primal39 | and you'll be fine |
| 20:06:44 | yi | ok...i will |
| 20:07:11 | Wooble | euhm |
| 20:07:21 | Wooble | which timezobe are we talking about? |
| 20:08:27 | yi | east |
| 20:08:42 | Wooble | being States? |
| 20:08:49 | yi | we are located close to washington dc |
| 20:09:00 | Wooble | ah OK |
| 20:09:04 | Wooble | I'm CET |
| 20:09:07 | yi | its 4:12 |
| 20:09:39 | Veggen | evening, ppl. |
| 20:09:44 | primal39 | hello |
| 20:10:39 | Veggen | hmm....is 2.18.48 the current recommended bootloader? |
| 20:10:39 | Wooble | it's 22.13 here |
| 20:10:55 | Wooble | Veggen: jep, it's working properly |
| 20:34:01 | yi | Wooble: i've noticed you said hyperterminal is better for the xmodem |
| 20:34:10 | Wooble | yi: yes |
| 20:34:17 | yi | since we are using linux... |
| 20:34:33 | yi | do you recommand we switch to windows for the entire process? |
| 20:34:56 | yi | are we going to run into possible other problems with linux |
| 20:35:05 | Wooble | yi: it can be done with Linux, but you'll have to config your minicom very specificly |
| 20:35:14 | Wooble | problem is, I haven't done it myself |
| 20:35:19 | Wooble | only seen doing it |
| 20:35:36 | yi | i mean....other than this step....will windows work better for the later steps |
| 20:35:46 | Wooble | yi: no |
| 20:35:58 | Wooble | yi: linux will be better then, a lot better |
| 20:35:59 | Veggen | I've never done this for windows at all. |
| 20:36:14 | Veggen | it's not that difficult in minicom. |
| 20:36:16 | yi | ok..thanx...u been so much help |
| 20:36:28 | Veggen | Just remember 115200,N,8,N and NO flow control. |
| 20:36:48 | Wooble | something like that ptobably yes |
| 20:38:49 | Veggen | not something like that, exactly that :) |
| 20:39:00 | Veggen | eh, 115800,N,8,1 |
| 20:39:01 | Wooble | Veggen: :) |
| 20:39:40 | Veggen | <--reinstalling. Going to familiar 0.5.2, today. |
| 20:40:06 | yi | Veggen: so you say its not hard on minicom? |
| 20:41:16 | Veggen | yi: not hard on minicom. |
| 20:41:26 | yi | have you done it? |
| 20:41:29 | Veggen | yes. |
| 20:41:34 | yi | cool |
| 20:41:49 | yi | we are newbies... |
| 20:41:59 | yi | do you mind givin me the instuructions |
| 20:42:21 | Veggen | Have you used minicom before? |
| 20:42:33 | yi | no |
| 20:43:28 | Veggen | man minicom is probably the best then :) |
| 20:43:47 | yi | oh really... |
| 20:44:01 | yi | the other guys where telling me minicom gives problems |
| 20:44:15 | Veggen | yi: problems doing what? |
| 20:44:25 | yi | i think configuring |
| 20:44:50 | Veggen | Not if done carefully :) There's nothing that doesn't WORK with minicom. |
| 20:45:10 | yi | well..thats what they were saying...careful configuring |
| 20:45:34 | yi | and they were saying...hyperterminal is a lot easier |
| 20:45:58 | yi | they problem is we already have linux installed... |
| 20:46:00 | Veggen | just start it up towards the correct port, select 115800,N,8,N and NO flow control, and you're up and going. |
| 20:46:15 | yi | nice...thats it uh? |
| 20:46:20 | Veggen | sure. that's it. |
| 20:46:25 | yi | : ) |
| 20:46:28 | yi | thanx a lot |
| 20:46:33 | Veggen | With those settings, xmodem works like a dream. |
| 20:46:39 | yi | ic ic |
| 20:46:57 | Veggen | eh, 115800,N,8,1 |
| 20:46:59 | Veggen | not N. |
| 20:47:05 | Veggen | (at the end) |
| 20:47:07 | yi | k |
| 20:51:06 | yi | Veggen: another question if you don't mind |
| 20:51:31 | yi | the cradal has a serial and a usb connection |
| 20:51:48 | yi | Veggen: can we use the usb |
| 20:52:30 | Veggen | yi: no. |
| 20:52:42 | yi | ok |
| 20:53:07 | Wooble | minicom is serial only |
| 20:53:27 | Wooble | USB is at another level |
| 20:53:35 | yi | i c |
| 20:53:37 | yi | thanx |
| 20:54:54 | yi | Veggen: we plugged the cradal in.. |
| 20:57:53 | Veggen | yi: have you transferred the bootloader? |
| 20:58:15 | yi | sorry we have been trying to play with our chat client |
| 20:58:21 | yi | the fonts are killing my elderly eyes lol |
| 20:58:24 | yi | this is rick back again |
| 20:58:35 | yi | sorry to ask some really dumb questins, but... |
| 20:58:45 | yi | just to let you know, there are two of us here you have been talking to yi |
| 20:58:49 | yi | now you are talking to rick |
| 20:59:01 | yi | we have plugged the cradle into the werial port on the linux box |
| 20:59:10 | yi | but ont we need to do something in linux to activate the serial port? |
| 20:59:43 | yi | by the way -- does anyone know how to boost font size in xchat on linux??? lol |
| 21:03:52 | DaveH | is away: I'm busy |
| 21:11:29 | yi | Wooble: after we plug the cradle into the serial port... |
| 21:11:41 | Wooble | yi: yes> |
| 21:12:00 | yi | Wooble: how do we make the computer talk with the cradle? |
| 21:12:18 | Wooble | via minicom? |
| 21:12:26 | yi | yes |
| 21:12:37 | Wooble | just plug it in |
| 21:12:38 | yi | we are gonna try minicom |
| 21:12:49 | Wooble | and enter a couple of times on enter |
| 21:12:55 | Wooble | en you should see a prompt |
| 21:13:04 | yi | so now we plug the ipac in? |
| 21:13:16 | yi | ipaq* |
| 21:13:21 | Veggen | yes. |
| 21:13:24 | yi | ok |
| 21:13:32 | yi | but...we didn't install anything yet |
| 21:13:39 | yi | not the bootloader..nothing |
| 21:13:40 | Wooble | ah |
| 21:13:42 | Wooble | ??? |
| 21:14:06 | yi | ok...let me tell you what we did so far so you won't be confused |
| 21:14:24 | yi | all we did so far is plug the cradle in |
| 21:14:29 | yi | hehe...nothing else : ) |
| 21:15:06 | yi | what is the next step? |
| 21:16:21 | yi | are you still there? |
| 21:16:25 | Wooble | i am |
| 21:16:31 | Wooble | but I'm confused |
| 21:16:40 | yi | oh |
| 21:16:47 | Wooble | didn't you transfer the bootloader? |
| 21:16:50 | yi | well...we haven't really done anything yet |
| 21:17:19 | yi | is the first step to use minicome or install the bootloader? |
| 21:17:29 | Wooble | Veggen: can you explain this step by step? |
| 21:17:42 | Wooble | Veggen: I'm ni bootloader expert |
| 21:18:19 | Veggen | Wooble: you can't transfer the bootloader initially by minicom. |
| 21:18:26 | Wooble | i dunno,,, |
| 21:18:44 | Wooble | I've never done it, friends at work have installed it |
| 21:18:56 | Wooble | I just like to play with it |
| 21:18:57 | yi | Veggen: can you step me through this? |
| 21:19:31 | Wooble | is going to sleep anyhow |
| 21:20:47 | Veggen | yi: you have read the installation guide? |
| 21:21:25 | yi | yes..but very hard to understand |
| 21:21:37 | yi | plus i know very little about this |
| 21:21:57 | yi | i just want the initial steps to installing this |
| 21:22:15 | yi | because they don't really explain the very basic steps.. |
| 21:24:18 | Veggen | yi: http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/ActiveSync |
| 21:25:18 | Veggen | explains how to get files transferred before installing the bootloader. |
| 21:25:23 | Veggen | (from Linux) |
| 21:25:39 | yi | i c |
| 21:25:51 | yi | thanx for bothering you will dumb questions.. |
| 21:26:00 | yi | i'll read that |
| 21:27:45 | Veggen | yes, I prefer to give links to documentation, you learn more from reading documentation than to just type what I say. |
| 21:28:06 | Veggen | besides, I don't know all steps by heart either. |
| 21:28:22 | yi | true...i will read it carefully |
| 21:28:29 | yi | thanx |
| 21:37:02 | yi | Veggen: i read that link...but i still... |
| 21:37:29 | yi | i'm not sure what to do nexty |
| 21:37:58 | yi | Veggen: should i install the bootloader program or something else |
| 21:38:20 | Veggen | you need to get bootblaster onto the ipaq first. And the bootloader. You use bootblaster to install the bootloader. |
| 21:38:25 | Veggen | From within CE. |
| 21:38:49 | yi | ah |
| 21:39:12 | yi | so the bootblaster goes on ipaq and bootloader goes on linux |
| 21:39:29 | Veggen | no, you'll need to transfer both to the ipaq. |
| 21:39:34 | yi | oh |
| 21:39:47 | yi | how do i do that...with minicom? |
| 21:39:59 | Veggen | no, by following instructions on the link I gave you :) |
| 21:40:05 | yi | oh |
| 21:40:14 | yi | man..this is confusing to me |
| 21:40:36 | yi | ok..thanx alot |
| 21:41:22 | Veggen | damn, I really need to get my flash upgraded. |
| 21:41:37 | Veggen | 16 meg is too damned little. |
| 21:52:34 | baub | Hey Veggen, do you know anything about wireless networking based on the prism2 chipset? |
| 21:52:47 | Veggen | baub: not much. |
| 21:57:14 | baub | Bummer. I am having problems getting it to work with the 2.4.18 kernel. |
| 23:36:22 | WhiteHat | hi |