irclog2html for familiar on 2002.08.22

01:47:53Felix_ARJust a question, I'm interested in buying a ipaq 3630, but I want to know how much memory does a complete installation of familiar takes.
01:48:13Felix_ARI mean, te distribution is installed in the ROM?
01:48:25Felix_ARDoes 16 Mb are enough?
01:58:51Felix_ARany idea?
06:14:01Burner23Hello World
06:40:35erwanhi all
06:41:02erwanBurner23: have a look at http://erwan.velu.free.fr/ipaq/crystal2.png
08:47:48erwanback
09:42:46Burner23is away: need food to survive :)

Generated by irclog2html.pl by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net! Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot logs, split per channel and by date, etc. 10:18:46Burner23_lunchis back (gone 00:35:59) 12:03:06FR^2Hi 12:08:05erwanhi FR^2 12:59:35FR^2reading the installtion instruction (e.g. on ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/linux/compaq/ipaq/stable/install.html ) over and over again, I am still afraid of making my ipaq 3130 useless. 13:01:28erwanFR^2: i've made it on my ipaq 3850 and everything is ok... 13:02:19erwanFR^2: just be sure of making everything as it's told... 13:02:36erwanbut you may use the bootldr2.18.48 which is the latest stable... 13:02:52FR^2Hmm. 13:03:20FR^2Is there any problem with the grayscale lcd display of the ipaq 31xx? 13:04:01erwanFR^2: i don't know... 13:04:11erwanFR^2: may be not... 13:28:10erwanFR^2: will you made it ? 13:36:00FR^2erwan: I still am not quite sure whether I should give it a try. I still have no Idea how to establish a link with minicom to the ipaq via serial docking station, and since I am not familiar with serial or usb issues, I am quite frightened by it. 13:36:54erwanFR^2: you can just install the bootldr on your ipaq, it will not destroy your ipaq 13:37:57erwanFR^2: then, plug your ipaq on the craddle, plug the serial port in your serial port, run minicom -s the select /dev/ttyS0 or /dev/ttyS1... 13:38:24erwanFR^2: then just way and you'll see the serial command line of your bootldr. 13:39:24FR^2Hmm. Now it doesn't sound so frightening *g* 13:39:47FR^2You said, bootloader 2.18.48 was the latest stable? Where can I get it? 13:41:19erwanhttp://www.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/bootldr/bootldr-2.18.48.bin 13:41:26erwanhttp://www.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/bootldr/bootldr-2.18.48.bin.md5sum 13:41:43erwanplease check the md5 before installing it 13:49:10FR^2Okay. Bootloader is programmed... 13:49:31FR^2WinCE 3.0 still works, but with erased contacts etc. 13:49:46FR^2Now I'll try to connect via serial 13:50:41FR^2*g* nice... tux on ipaq. 13:51:15FR^2Hmm. 13:51:23erwanFR^2: cool, now you must have "boot>" on your serial 13:51:28FR^2This bootloader can boot from compact flash?!? 13:51:35erwanFR^2: yeah ! 13:51:47FR^2Well, actually I have cf 128 MByte... 13:51:58erwanIt should be better 13:52:09erwanbut i don't how to make a dual boot 13:52:13FR^2*g* 13:52:25erwan*g* ?? 13:52:48FR^2Where can I find Information what files the cf card should contend? 13:53:36BulwinkleHas anyone had errors when trying to get the bootloader installed on a H3870? 13:53:41FR^2No, let's just go on with the "ordinary path"... I'll try to connect via serial 13:53:50erwanBulwinkle: 3870 is ok 13:54:14erwanFR^2: did you made a backup of your wince ? 13:54:22BulwinkleI get a erase_flash unlock status 0xaa00aa when I try to flash 13:54:44BulwinkleIt hangs and when I do a verify it says I have a valid parrot bootloader 13:58:23erwanBulwinkle: what are you doing for flashing ? 13:58:39Bulwinklebootblaster 13:59:02erwanwhy don't use the serial way using the bootldr ? 13:59:12BulwinkleHave a link for that? 13:59:33erwanplease read  ftp://ftp.handhelds.org/pub/linux/compaq/ipaq/stable/install.html 13:59:50erwanBulwinkle: you can flash your flash under wince !!!! 13:59:58erwans/can/can't 14:00:23primal39erwan: yes you can 14:00:28primal39that's how you install the bootloader 14:00:57primal39you copy over the bootblaster program, and use it to install the bootldr rom image. 14:00:59erwanprimal39: oki for bootblaster but how can you write the flash on which you are booted from ? 14:01:48primal39erwan: well, IANAP, but I know that's how it works, as that is how I installed the bootloader.  how did you install the bootloader? 14:02:14FR^2erwan: Yes, I did backup my WinCE bootloader, the WinCE rom, and made a full backup of all data 14:02:22FR^2erwan: Now I have the boot prompt... 14:02:28erwanprimal39: Bulwinkle is talking about flashing is rom while it's bootloader is ok ! 14:02:43erwanFR^2: cool ! 14:03:03erwanNow you just have to upload a new image 14:03:18erwanFR^2: what is your rom size ? 14:03:20primal39erwan: yes, that's the point.   14:03:32primal39erwan: you can install the new bootloader and not remove CE 14:03:40FR^2erwan: 16 MByte ROM and 16 MByte RAM (Ipaq 3130...) 14:03:44erwanprimal39: we are agree 14:03:53primal39erwan: ok, just making sure I understood 14:03:54primal39:- 14:04:03primal39s/:-/:-)/ 14:06:11erwanFR^2: i'll looking for the best one ! 14:06:33FR^2erwan: Thanks a lot! 14:09:10erwanFR^2: http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.6-pre1/install/H3100/bootopie-v06-h3100-1.jffs2 14:09:25erwanFR^2: this one is the coolest ! 14:09:46erwando you know how to send it ? 14:10:19erwanFR^2: ooups, http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.6-pre1/install/H3100/bootopie-v06-8-h3100.jffs2 14:10:49erwanFR^2: this one is better 14:10:49Bulwinkleokay....   I'm gonna install the compaq update then try the bootblaster again 14:11:00erwanBulwinkle: ??? 14:11:09erwanBulwinkle: which update ? 14:11:19FR^2erwan: *g* 14:11:29erwanBulwinkle: bootblaster seems to be installed... 14:11:32Bulwinkle21465 14:11:36erwanFR^2: what does *g* means ? 14:11:53FR^2erwan: I'm grinning... 14:11:56erwanBulwinkle: there is no need for linux... 14:12:39Bulwinklewell, I want to install linux 14:13:05BulwinkleCan anyone tell me what BootBlaster should say when I do a Verify? 14:13:13Bulwinkleshould it say Parrot? 14:13:31erwanBulwinkle: should say you have a valid bootldr 14:13:52erwanplease try to install http://www.handhelds.org/pub/linux/feeds/bootldr/bootldr-2.18.48.bin as bootldr 14:14:01BulwinkleTried it 14:14:17Bulwinkleand 2.19.8 14:15:20FR^2erwan: I just imagined... downloading the jffs2-file from internet with approximately 40kBytes/sec lasts two or three minutes... how long does it take to "upload" the file via serial to the ipaq? 14:16:27erwanFR^2: about 30-35 mins 14:16:49erwanFR^2: 20 mins... 14:17:25FR^2erwan: Couldn't I copy the file directly to the compact flash card and install the root filesystem from there? 14:17:35primal39FR^2: depends on whether you use xmodem or ymodem to send the file to the ipaq 14:17:40erwanFR^2: nope... 14:17:57erwanFR^2: oups, i don't know 14:18:14erwan20 min using ymodem 14:18:21FR^2erwan: Hmm. The bootloader can mount vfat cf, so it seems... And I have a usb cf reader 14:18:47sjohnsonFR^2: The IPAQ can function as as USB host. 14:18:53sjohnsonFR^2: The IPAQ canNOT function as as USB host. 14:19:11sjohnsonis fumble fingers this morning. 14:21:16erwanFR^2: bootloader doesn't allow you to do that 14:22:17FR^2erwan: Hmm. It would have been a little bit quicker to read the jffs2 file from cf 14:22:46erwanFR^2: of course, by usb also ! but it's in the todo list... 14:22:51FR^2sjohnson: Yes, I know that the Ipaq cannot function as an USB host, but what has this to do with it? 14:23:31sjohnsonFR^2: I though were alluding to using the USB reader on the IPAQ. 14:23:41FR^2erwan: I think you misunderstand me... I have direct access (without the Ipaq) to the vfat filesystem on the cf card by installing the cf card in my pc 14:24:28FR^2erwan: the jffs2 file is downloaded. 14:24:49erwanFR^2: agreed but there is no "load" procedure for that ! load root is waiting serial input... 14:25:00FR^2erwan: Ah, I see. 14:25:13erwanFR^2: ready to destroy CE ? 14:25:17FR^2erwan: Now just "load root" ? 14:25:18FR^2*g* 14:25:25FR^2YES! 14:25:30erwanFR^2: have you made partition reset before ? 14:25:38erwanFR^2: have you made "partition reset" before ? 14:26:01FR^2erwan: not yet. 14:26:14erwanFR^2: do it before load root 14:26:19erwanFR^2: do it before "load root" 14:26:22FR^2boot> partition reset 14:26:22FR^2defining partition: bootldr 14:26:22FR^2defining partition: root 14:26:32erwanFR^2: cool ! 14:26:40erwanFR^2: now laod root 14:26:55erwanooups, "set ymodem 1" before 14:27:27erwanFR^2: this is faster 14:28:03FR^2Okay 14:28:06erwanBulwinkle: don't use 2.19.x bootldr ! 14:28:24erwanBulwinkle: just 2.18.48 14:29:45FR^2erwan: Now it show a "CCCC.." and more coming... I suppose this is correct? 14:30:17FR^2Hmm. Obviously not. 14:30:29erwanFR^2: set ymodem ok ? 14:30:39BulwinkleDoes anyone know why it says Parrot Bootloader when I do a verify? 14:30:40FR^2erwan: Yes. ymodem is set to 1 14:30:44erwanFR^2: cool 14:30:52erwanBulwinkle: nope 14:30:57erwanFR^2: load root 14:31:17FR^2boot> load root 14:31:17FR^2partition root is a jffs2 partition: 14:31:17FR^2 expecting .jffs2 or wince_image.gz. 14:31:17FR^2 After receiving file, will automatically uncompress .gz images 14:31:17FR^2loading flash region root 14:31:18FR^2using ymodem 14:31:20FR^2ready for YMODEM transfer... 14:31:27erwanFR^2: on minicom side, ctrl-a then z then s 14:31:37erwanFR^2: choose ymodem 14:31:42erwanFR^2: choose the jffs2 image 14:31:46erwanthen enter 14:31:51erwanFR^2: should work 14:31:55Bulwinkleerase_flash unlock status - > 0xaa00aa 14:31:57Bulwinklestill 14:32:03Bulwinkle2.18.48 14:33:12FR^2CCCC.....Too many errors during receive; giving up. 14:33:12FR^2download error. aborting. 14:33:32erwanFR^2: ok minicom doesn't send datas. 14:33:47erwanFR^2: close minicom, restart your boot loader and do it again... 14:33:58erwanFR^2: set + load + send 14:34:17erwanFR^2: i've been in the same case 14:34:18FR^2Okay 14:35:01erwanback in 2 mins 14:37:35FR^2erwan: Hmm... minicom shows a "window" with the title [ymodem upload - Press CTRL-C to quit] and "READY: press any key to continue..." - I have to press Enter, don't I? 14:38:55erwanFR^2: yep, then you can choose the file you want to upload 14:42:03FR^2erwan: 1) I enter "load root" - 2) a menu shows up from which I choose ymodem. 3) I select the file to upload and press enter, 4)  a "window" with the title [ymodem upload - Press CTRL-C to quit] shows up with "READY: press any key to continue..." 14:42:37FR^2erwan: Er... between point 1 and 2 I press CTRL-A and then Z, of course. 14:42:48erwanFR^2:no, 3) press space to toogle, then enter to upload 14:44:07FR^2erwan: Yes... I toggle the jffs2 file, and select "okay" and press enter. 14:44:18erwanFR^2: then ? 14:45:01erwanFR^2:does your minicom is set to 115200 8N1 14:45:31FR^2erwan: Then the minicom-"window" pops up with "press any key to continue..."... 14:45:57FR^2erwan: Yes, I set the option to 115200 baud, 8N1 14:46:20erwanFR^2: are you in set ymodem 1 14:48:20FR^2erwan: Yes, I have set ymodem to 1 14:48:43FR^2erwan: At the moment I am trying it with xmodem (ymodem set to 0), same behaviour... 14:49:31FR^2erwan: Er... Hmm... with "xmodem" only points (".") appear... What should appear to show it is working? 14:50:07erwanFR^2: minicom show the number of packets sent 14:50:13erwanFR^2: on the ipaq: show baudrate 14:50:59FR^2 baudrate=<115200> 14:51:04erwanpartition show 14:51:21erwanmay i have an ssh to you computer ? 14:52:26erwans/you/your 14:52:46FR^2erwan: No, sorry. But I think, xmodem seems to work. 14:53:09erwanFR^2: why ? 14:53:22erwanFR^2: why does it seems to work ? 14:56:46FR^2Hmm. No it doesn't, but I figured out, there are no such programs as /usr/bin/sb used by minicom to transfer files... 14:57:51erwanFR^2: install lrzsz package 14:57:57sjohnsonFR^2: You don't have the lszrz package installed 14:58:13sjohnsonmincom's buit-in minicom sucks 14:59:24FR^2Yes I installed the lrzsz package. Now let's see... 15:00:00erwanFR^2: try ymodem ! 15:00:21FR^2Yes, now it seems to be doing something..  sectors/kilobytes sent 3200/400k 15:00:38erwanFR^2: cool ! 15:00:45FR^2Now it works.. 15:00:59erwanFR^2: about 20 min of upload, then "boot" 15:01:23erwanFR^2: have a look at http://erwan.velu.free.fr/ipaq/crystal2.png (that's a screen of my ipaq !) 15:02:32FR^2erwan: Nice... But I think with 16 grayscales it will never look very "modern"... 15:12:48erwanFR^2: how many KB uploaded ? 15:15:37FR^2erwan: app. 6150kBytes 15:18:14erwanFR^2: good, 4000 more 15:22:12FR^22000k to go 15:28:24FR^2Hmm? The Ipaq doesn't show the screen anymore, and the sb command tells something about sector not acknowledged 15:28:42erwanFR^2: strange... 15:29:18erwanFR^2: be sure that the ipaq stays in it's craddle 15:30:37FR^2erwan: I'm trying it again 15:33:26erwanFR^2: if it's upload try boot 15:33:31erwanFR^2: there is no risk 15:33:56FR^2erwan: Okay. 15:37:34erwanFR^2: so ? 15:38:13FR^2erwan: 2880k uploaded. 15:39:03erwanFR^2: ok... ymodem ? 15:39:37FR^2Yes, via ymodem 15:39:54erwanFR^2: did the last upload had written the flash ? (there is a step after downloading where the bootldr write the flash) 15:40:43FR^2No, the last attempt to upload the root filesystem wasn't successful, so I tried again 15:41:37erwanFR^2: ok 15:48:07erwanFR^2: status ? 15:48:38FR^2erwan: 6800k 15:58:01erwanFR^2: status ? 15:58:32FR^2hmm. 15:58:58FR^2erwan: Again, at 81511/10188k, the Ipaq shut himself down... 15:59:19erwanFR^2: waaoow ! 15:59:28FR^2strange 15:59:45erwanFR^2: at the same size as before ? 16:00:10erwanFR^2: are you using AC adaptor ? 16:00:27FR^2erwan: I don't know exactly, but the message about 41 Sectors missing or something like that is identical to the try before. 16:01:06FR^2erwan: The bootloader hasn't any options for auto-shutdown or power-management, has it? 16:01:30FR^2erwan: Yes, the ipaq is in the serial docking station, with the ac adaptor connected. 16:02:28erwanFR^2: not AFAIN 16:02:38erwans/AFAIN/AFAIK 16:08:22BulwinkleOkay I'm back 16:09:02Bulwinklenow, I have a 3870 which is running 2002...  I have tried to do the BootBlaster and it wont work...  any suggestions on what to do now? 16:09:46BulwinkleDo I need to not be running 2002 to install the bootloader? 16:12:42FR^2erwan: Could a hard reset solve the problem? 16:16:15FR^2erwan: Or is there anything I forgot to do? 16:20:26gribBulwinkle: 2002 works fine with bootblaster -- used it myself last week 16:20:37gribBulwinkle: how is bootblaster failing? 16:20:56Bulwinklefinally figured it out.... 16:21:04Bulwinkle1.8 != 1.18 :) 16:21:12Bulwinkleman I can be a real dumbass sometimes 16:24:06Bulwinkleokay I'm at the boot> prompt, any docs on what I do now? 16:26:28FR^2Bulwinkle: "partition reset", "set ymodem 1" (if your terminal program can do ymodem transfer), then "load root", and transfer the .jffs2 file via ymodem 16:26:42FR^2Or did I get anything wrong? 16:27:25Bulwinkleworking :) 16:29:00Bulwinkleany particular version I shouldn't load or is the latest the greatest? 16:32:50sjohnsonBulwinkle: IF your new to this, use 0.5.3. 16:33:26Bulwinklewhere would I find the .jffs2? 16:35:08sjohnsonBulwinkle: http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.5.3/install/H3600/ 16:35:39BulwinkleThis will work okay on a H3870? 16:36:18sjohnsonBulwinkle: Then use http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.5.3/install/H3800/ 16:36:20sjohnson:) 16:36:29Bulwinkleaaaah, gotcha 16:36:40Bulwinkleis 0.6.0 still too buggy? 16:37:42sjohnsonBulwinkle: Not for me. But it's still a movig target and it's a radically differnent from 0.5 based on busybox. 16:37:55Bulwinklegotcha...  I'll take your advice 16:38:40sjohnsonBulwinkle: I would advise getting you feet wet with 0.5.3. once your are comfatable with it. You can move on to 0.6 16:39:12BulwinkleBy then it will probably be a real release 16:39:29sjohnsonBulwinkle: True. 16:40:01sjohnsonDon't worry though. Even if something get screwed up, you can alway just reflash. 16:40:20BulwinkleI'm uploading now, cross your fingers for me :) 16:40:52sjohnsoncrosses his eyes, er fingers. 16:41:14BulwinkleGuess I can go get some lunch now...  BBIAS 16:52:20FR^2erwan: Third try didn't succeed either... 16:53:17Bulwinklemine is writing now.... 16:53:36FR^2Bulwinkle: Congratulations! 16:53:49Bulwinkledone, now what do I do?  reboot it? 16:57:01BulwinkleJust the pudgy penguin with a flashing cursor now 16:57:47BulwinkleHEEEEELP!!!  Why isn't is starting up? 16:58:17Bulwinkles/is/it 16:59:27gdsx_awayBulwinkle: it probably has started up 16:59:33gdsx_awayBulwinkle: what's on your serial console? 16:59:55Bulwinkleaaah 17:00:11Bulwinklewhats the password for root by default? 17:00:18gdsx_away"rootme" 17:01:22Bulwinklenow what do I do with it? :) 17:01:34BulwinkleDo I have to load more packages? 17:01:38gdsx_awayBulwinkle: look at the familiar install instructions 17:01:41gdsx_awayfamiliar.handhelds.org 17:03:20Bulwinklewhich would you run GPE or Opie? 17:04:08gdsx_away*cough* X *cough* 17:04:09gdsx_away:o) 17:04:38Bulwinkleis brandy new at this in case there was any doubt 17:19:47sjohnsonBulwinkle: It's going to totally a personal preference.  I suggest your try both. 17:23:15Bulwinkleokay, here is my problem....  how do I get packages to my pocketpc without having a network 17:24:24sjohnsonBulwinkle: Upload them using zmodem to /tmp and then 'ipkg install /tmp/filename.ipk' 17:25:04sjohnsonBulwinkle: But I would recommend getting a network connection. It makes updates a lot simpler. 17:25:31sjohnsonUsing ipkg to install locally doesn't handle dependencies. 17:27:26FR^2Grrr... This time I tried uploading the root filesystem via xmodem, and still no success. 17:29:30sjohnsonFR^2: HAve you install the lszrz package? 17:31:58FR^2sjohnson: Yes. 17:32:50Bulwinkledoes anyone have a Cisco Aironet wireless card? 17:35:05erwan_homeFR^2: so what's on ? 17:39:40FR^2erwan_home: I had no success yet. 17:44:08FR^2erwan_home: Perhaps there is some misconfiguration of my minicom file transfer options 17:48:29Bulwinklealright, I can send ipk files to the ipaq but it won't let me install the packages, is there a Familiar for dummies so I can get X-running on  this dang thing? 17:53:59erwan_homeBulwinkle: which handheld are u using ? 17:56:19erwan_homeFR^2: give me more infos... 17:57:11BulwinkleH3870 17:57:18FR^2erwan: Since I installed the needed programs for the xmodem and ymodem, I tried it some more times to upload the root filesystem... without any success yet. 17:57:26Bulwinkleanyone know where I can edit the wep keys for my aironet card? 17:58:34sjohnsonBulwinkle: /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts 17:58:52Bulwinklethanks sjohnson! 17:59:47erwan_homeBulwinkle: ipkg install task-x 18:03:03Bulwinklethanks 18:03:21BulwinkleAnyone know wether LEAP is supported in the options? 18:04:14sjohnsonBulwinkle: LEAP? 18:04:26sjohnsonThat's a new one to me 18:04:57BulwinkleYeah, all of the access points on my network attach to a radius server to authenticate 18:05:05erwan_homesee U 18:05:52sjohnsonBulwinkle: Ah. I don't think so. 18:07:15FR^2erwan: 10000k transfered... hope it works this time 18:08:27FR^2nope 18:09:31sjohnsonBulwinkle: Looks like I was wrong. Apparently LEAP is supported under linux, but I don't think there is a ARM driver yet. 18:13:05sjohnsonis reading about LEAP and EAP. 18:17:00FR^2erwan: Is there any smaller root filesystem to try it more often / more quickly? 18:21:49sjohnsonFR^2: The 0.6pre images are smaller. 18:27:32FR^2sjohnson: Hmm. But which one is the right one? I find files like task-bootppp, task-bootserial and so on 18:29:05FR^2Is http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.5/install/H3100/task-bootstrap.jffs2 a root filesystem? 18:29:59sjohnsonFR^2: They all are root file systems. The opie and gpe are iamges that have a basic Opie or GPE enironment loaded also. 18:31:02sjohnsonFR^2: Bootstrap is a basic image that cam boot, but thats amout it. 18:31:04FR^2Ah. 18:31:24FR^2okay, thanks... this one would half the upload time 18:32:32sjohnsonFR^2: 0.6 is still a pre release. I got 0.6 loaded and working. But there will could be few rough edges. 18:32:56sjohnsons/will/still/ 18:33:56FR^2sjohnson: I think my problem is the upload itself. I am not familiar with modem / serial things and things like zmodem, xmodem and ymodem... 18:34:58FR^2sjohnson: Perhaps I should just try and upload the files from Windows  *g* 18:35:32sjohnsonFR^2: You might might have a flacky serial port on the desktop. I've seen it before. 18:36:09FR^2sjohnson: Could be either... Is there any way to enable flow control? 18:39:40FR^2Grr. Again the Screen is strange with points.. Another try.. 18:45:43oweihjhow do i turn on wireless extentions in familiar 18:45:44oweihj? 18:55:51FR^2sjohnson: This time it seems to work! 18:58:44BulwinkleHow can I get my handheld connected to the network quickest so I can download from familiar? 18:58:52FR^2Hmm. But it doesn't work either.. 18:59:45BulwinkleHow about bluetooth? 19:04:55sjohnsonBulwinkle: You can use usbnet. 19:05:10sjohnsonYou can do it with linux or Windows 19:05:11BulwinkleHow do I do that? 19:05:17BulwinkleWindows please 19:05:18usbnet is at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking or and usbnet in 2.4.18 (desktop) is broken, you want to use > 2.4.19-pre2 or see windows usbnet for windows support 19:05:18sjohnsonibot: usbnet 19:05:31:) 19:05:31sjohnsonibot: botsnack 19:05:43i heard windows usbnet was http://www.bahia21.com/download.htm 19:05:43sjohnsonibot: windows usbnet 19:30:05FR^2Ha, at least I was able to restore WinCE 19:42:03FR^2So, I had no success, but at least my Ipaq is working as before... 19:44:21FR^2Bye... 20:29:13oweihji am trying to compile a program on my handheld and the compiler is giving error messages about not finding library .h files like time.h and stdio.h 20:29:27oweihjwhere do i look to solve this problem? 20:53:54Kybernetoshmm... how big is a normal fam. install? 20:55:54Kybernetosoweihj: maybe in /usr/include/ ? 8)
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