| 00:22:52 | dis_ | hey anyone here? |
| 00:32:28 | dis_ | a7r: you around? |
| 00:59:14 | a7r | dis_: yeah |
| 01:00:28 | dis_ | a7r: actually sent it twice. didnt notice i left out the distro/version info |
| 01:01:05 | dis_ | a7r: but on my 3870 what should i have in /dev for my usb eth? |
| 01:01:56 | a7r | dis_: I actually don't run USB anything, so I wouldn't know.. but what're you trying to do with it? |
| 01:02:03 | a7r | just configure networking |
| 01:02:06 | a7r | ? |
| 01:02:07 | dis_ | yep |
| 01:02:29 | dis_ | it modprobes fine |
| 01:02:36 | dis_ | ufconfig usbf looks good |
| 01:02:52 | a7r | does ``ifconfig -a'' dump it? |
| 01:03:06 | dis_ | ifconfig usbf up gives SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such device |
| 01:03:09 | dis_ | yep |
| 01:03:36 | dis_ | so i *assume* the /dev entry is missing |
| 01:03:51 | dis_ | but i dont know enuf bout usb to know what it should be to create it |
| 01:03:56 | a7r | nah, network devices and special device files are entirely separate under Linux.. |
| 01:04:13 | a7r | your problem is probably a lack of configuration steps.. go hunting for a how to. |
| 01:04:18 | dis_ | i ment with MAKEDEV |
| 01:04:39 | a7r | yeah, but ifconfig doesn't pay attention to anything in /dev for network configuration. |
| 01:04:42 | dis_ | i would agree but ive been running familiar for a while now |
| 01:05:27 | dis_ | i should be able to modprobe usb-eth, ifconfig usbf 192.168.10.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up |
| 01:05:58 | dis_ | and im definatly not new to linux, thats all ive ran for years, not to mention my job :-) |
| 01:06:40 | dis_ | the onlytime ive seen that in the past is bad card/drivers so i stepped back to 5.3 and it worked fine |
| 01:07:33 | dis_ | any ideas? |
| 01:08:39 | a7r | yeah, forget about mknod/MAKEDEV.. and ask around to see what other people are seeing. |
| 01:08:56 | dis_ | yea thats why i came here. |
| 01:08:59 | a7r | those drivers have broken before, silently. |
| 01:09:05 | a7r | try the mailing lists. |
| 01:09:19 | dis_ | gotcha, thanks |
| 04:21:44 | owenshadbolt | am i in a chat session? |
| 04:21:56 | owenshadbolt | is anybody out there????? |
| 04:34:03 | owenshadbolt | is anybody out there??????? |
| 04:59:44 | owenshadbolt | i am having problems with initrd on an iPaq 3660, can anyone help? |
| 05:04:40 | r00t | define "problem with initrd" |
| 05:09:20 | owenshadbolt | cant seem to get it to load, ramdisk says no valid ramdisk image found at 0 |
| 05:10:07 | owenshadbolt | i've tried using compressed and uncompressed initrd's also playing with related params in the bootldr |
| 05:10:56 | r00t | what exactly are you trying to do? just install familiar through bootldr? |
| 05:17:50 | owenshadbolt | no, i've got the familiar task-bootstrap.jffs2 image installed to the root partition. I just want to be able to load the nvrd driver and mount it as root |
| 05:17:57 | owenshadbolt | my understanding of this is that i need to use an initrd but it does not want to work! |
| 05:18:45 | r00t | no idea on that |
| 05:20:30 | owenshadbolt | i can get linux to boot fine on the jffs2 partition but it wont load initrd |
| 05:21:48 | r00t | and why exactly do you need the initrd? just to not have root on flash? |
| 05:23:52 | owenshadbolt | well nvrd sets up a non-volitile ramdisk that works the same as ram under wince, so the reason for doing this is twofold, to not use the builtin flash as rw partition and more space! |
| 05:24:55 | owenshadbolt | my ipaq has 64 meg ram, so i thought i would use 24 meg for my nvrd |
| 05:25:54 | r00t | it seems easier to me to just boot with the flash root first, and then mount tmpfs, copy over the stuff, and chroot into it |
| 05:26:07 | r00t | especially since initrds are fixed size |
| 05:26:11 | r00t | but i've never tried |
| 05:26:15 | r00t | anything like that |
| 05:27:47 | owenshadbolt | problem with that is that would be somewhat self defeating, i want a ramdisk that can survive soft resets hence the use of nvrd |
| 05:28:16 | r00t | ah, i didnt see that |
| 05:28:55 | owenshadbolt | nvrd is a driver module that comes with familiar, so i need to use an initrd to load the module |
| 05:30:04 | owenshadbolt | also nvrd has been written to provide this kind of non volatile ramdisk on the ipaq |
| 05:31:34 | owenshadbolt | i know some people have used initrd's on thier ipaq's but mainly for dual booting and such, which in a way is what i want to do :-) |
| 05:32:04 | r00t | heh |
| 05:34:57 | owenshadbolt | sorry kinda got carried away typing, to what bit do you refer (heh) |
| 05:35:32 | r00t | just in general |
| 05:36:20 | r00t | i really have NO idea on that stuff, don't think i've heard of nvrd before |
| 05:37:42 | owenshadbolt | if you have a microdrive or cf card it is possible to set up more than one bootable (or rootable) partition on an ipaq |
| 05:38:05 | owenshadbolt | but most of the time requires an initrd to do it! |
| 05:38:40 | r00t | mine isnt mine, has 16mb flash and 32mn ram, and rxvt+xchat+dillo is enough to run it out of ram very effectivelyx |
| 05:39:02 | r00t | and i can |
| 05:39:09 | r00t | and i can't spell at 8:45am |
| 05:39:51 | owenshadbolt | too early in the morning huh :-) |
| 05:40:09 | r00t | no, too late without sleeping :P |
| 05:41:34 | owenshadbolt | oh an all nighter lol, i simply cant do that any more, i just end up snoring at the pc and drooling all over my keyboard :-) |
| 05:42:14 | r00t | i'm currently at sleeping all day and staying up all night... |
| 05:44:16 | owenshadbolt | computers and the net can be very bad for sleep routines, as i have discoverred! |
| 05:45:40 | r00t | hehe |
| 06:26:55 | erwan | hi all |
| 06:28:02 | owenshadbolt | hello, do you know anything about initrd and ipaq's? |
| 06:29:56 | erwan | owenshadbolt: never saw an initrd on ipaq but it should works as an normal initrd... what's do you want to do with it ? |
| 10:06:04 | owenshadbolt | hi all, can anyone please help with this initrd trouble i'm having? |
| 10:15:50 | erwan | owenshadbolt: explain want you want to do, and your problem |
| 10:31:18 | owenshadbolt | erwan: sorry chating elsewhere :-) um trying to get the bootloader on my ipaq to load an initrd |
| 10:31:25 | owenshadbolt | ramdisk just says 'no valid ramdisk image found at 0 |
| 10:36:30 | erwan | why do you need an initrd ? |
| 10:43:32 | owenshadbolt | so that i can load the ext2 and nvrd modules at boot time and use the nvrd as my root fs |
| 10:44:24 | owenshadbolt | i do have a kernel with ext2 builtin but i've tried this with all pos combinations of kernel and initrd filesystems |
| 10:45:28 | erwan | owenshadbolt: is your kernel is built with initrd support ? |
| 10:45:39 | erwan | owenshadbolt: how have you made you initrd ? |
| 10:46:03 | erwan | owenshadbolt: how have you modified your bootloader ? |
| 10:46:21 | erwan | owenshadbolt: what is nvrd ? |
| 10:49:54 | owenshadbolt | yes the kernel has initrd support, i used my desktop pc and mkcramfs, no mods just changes to params |
| 10:50:36 | owenshadbolt | nvrd is a non volatile ramdisk driver module that comes with familiar linux |
| 10:52:28 | erwan | owenshadbolt: so you can use the ram of you ipaq as a non volatile filesystem ??? |
| 10:52:40 | erwan | owenshadbolt: what have you changed in your bootloader ? |
| 12:23:06 | owenshadbolt | hi all, got bumped off the net earier... does anyone know anything about initrd on an ipaq 3660 with bootldr 2.18.48 |
| 12:44:29 | erwan | owenshadbolt: what have you changed in your bootloader ? |
| 12:47:25 | owenshadbolt | um the linuxargs, initrd_copy, use_initrd |
| 12:48:35 | erwan | i'm trying to change my "params" and it doesn't read my bootldr.conf or my boot/params... |
| 12:50:40 | owenshadbolt | erwan: i dont follow... |
| 12:51:30 | erwan | owenshadbolt: i'm trying to install nvrd on my ipaq, and i'm following the steps for installing nvrd. So i need to change my boot params in bootldr and it doesn't works |
| 12:57:47 | owenshadbolt | right, the params can be set prior to booting the kernel from the boot loader, however each time the machine reboots or resets either the default params will be loaded, params will be loaded from params partition if present or params will be taken from /boot/params if present |
| 13:18:40 | erwan | owenshadbolt: that's the point, it is not loaded... |
| 13:21:41 | owenshadbolt | what is the bootldr parameter 'kernel_partition' set to? |
| 13:24:54 | bowser | how can i run some commands at boot time? |
| 13:25:23 | erwan | owenshadbolt: found :-) |
| 13:31:59 | owenshadbolt | erwan: huh? |
| 13:34:54 | erwan | owenshadbolt: my syntax wasn't clean in boot/params... where can i found mkfs in familiar ? |
| 13:35:49 | owenshadbolt | in /sbin |
| 13:38:41 | erwan | owenshadbolt: it is not installed in mine and i can't find it in "ipkg search" |
| 13:41:31 | owenshadbolt | mmmm, i just use the task-bootstrap.jffs2 from familiar ver 0.5.3 and its there! |
| 13:44:39 | erwan | owenshadbolt: e2fsprogs |
| 14:04:19 | erwan | owenshadbolt: when i'm trying to mount the /dev/nvrd/0 is tell me that "mount: Mounting /dev/nvrd/0 on /mnt/nvrd failed: No such device |
| 14:04:19 | erwan | " whereas both entries exists |
| 14:07:36 | bowser | erwan: ext2 modules installed? |
| 14:08:33 | erwan | bowser: yep |
| 14:08:43 | bowser | Hmm... and loaded? |
| 14:14:29 | erwan | bowser: ok, modules were missing... modprobe says nothing when modules are missing :-)) |
| 14:15:33 | bowser | U see |
| 14:16:51 | bowser | bye |
| 14:19:44 | erwan | bowser: bye and thx |
| 14:20:07 | bowser | np |
| 15:47:13 | sjohnson | is away: I'm busy |
| 15:57:41 | yizhao_ | rename yi |
| 16:00:07 | yizhao_ | i just flashed my ram and installed bootstrap-v6. i ipkg installed task-complete. but for seme reason gpe seems to have a lot of problems |
| 16:00:38 | yizhao_ | does anyone know why that could be? on my other ipaq i upgraded from 0.5.3 to 0.6 which worked fine.. |
| 16:21:23 | VerxWork | hello |
| 16:21:25 | VerxWork | anyone around? |
| 17:26:44 | jwright | Hello |
| 17:33:06 | DjThomasJ | hrmm.. |
| 17:33:11 | DjThomasJ | so this is alla bout handhelds? |
| 17:33:13 | DjThomasJ | all about* |
| 17:35:32 | jwright | |
| 17:38:15 | DjThomasJ | can i ask some questions? |
| 17:42:48 | DjThomasJ | is there anyplace i can download linux for ipaq |
| 17:44:49 | cmarqu | DjThomasJ: familiar.handhelds.org |
| 18:02:25 | sjohnson | is back (gone 02:15:12) |
| 18:03:01 | jwright | is away: (Auto-Away after 10 mins) [BX-MsgLog On] |
| 19:56:06 | mirov | Hi folks. I'm using orinoco_cs and get this quite a bit: |
| 19:56:08 | mirov | NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out |
| 19:56:08 | mirov | eth0: Tx timeout! Resetting card. ALLOCFID=0110, TXCOMPLFID=01ec, EVSTAT=808d |
| 19:56:08 | mirov | eth0: error -5 reading info frame. Frame dropped. |
| 19:56:09 | mirov | eth0: error -5 reading Rx descriptor. Frame dropped. |
| 19:56:09 | mirov | eth0: Unable to read descriptor on Tx error (FID=0000 error -5) |
| 19:56:09 | mirov | eth0: Error -110 writing Tx desciptor to BAP |
| 19:56:11 | mirov | eth0: Error -110 writing Tx desciptor to BAP |
| 19:56:13 | mirov | eth0: Error -110 writing packet header to BAP |
| 19:56:15 | mirov | eth0: Error -110 writing Tx desciptor to BAP |
| 19:56:19 | mirov | Anyone know how to make it go away ? |
| 20:21:39 | neale | Hi, anyone got any time / motivation to help me with a problem with bluetooth on my 3870 ? |
| 20:23:54 | mirov | neale: I don't think many folks are around today.... |
| 20:25:53 | neale | :-(, so far all I get for my efforts is a flashing blue light!! I might try again tomorrow. |
| 20:32:02 | grib | mirov: common problem. known (I think) to be an issue with the orinoco driver. I see it all the time too. |
| 20:38:01 | mirov | grib: Out of curiosity, what type of sleeve are you using? I'm using a dual-sleeve nearly always... |
| 21:20:34 | grib | mirov: dual sleeve for me too, but I've heard it's also common with single sleeve |
| 23:23:52 | Mutiny | how the _hell_ do you quit xcalibrate? |
| 23:24:06 | gdsx_away | Mutiny: you don't? :oP |
| 23:24:21 | gdsx_away | Mutiny: it won't calibrate? |
| 23:24:32 | Mutiny | it calibrates--then it wont go away! |
| 23:26:22 | gdsx_away | Mutiny: try holding a button down when you tap the targets |
| 23:26:44 | gdsx_away | Mutiny: it doesn't go away unless the points you tap correspond correctly with the verification point (the one in the middle) |