| 06:15:02 | bimble-wrk | morning all |
| 06:18:19 | greylensman | bimble-wrk: good morning. |
| 06:19:19 | bimble-wrk | hey there greylensman :) |
| 06:19:30 | bimble-wrk | well I think you've convinced me... going shopping tomorrow |
| 06:28:13 | greylensman | bimble-wrk: hehehe. |
| 06:30:00 | bimble-wrk | isn't it some horrible hour of the day for you greylensman? |
| 06:32:07 | greylensman | bimble-wrk: hehehe - not really 1538H |
| 06:32:28 | bimble-wrk | lol, apologies, I'd got the impression you were in the US somewhere |
| 06:33:13 | greylensman | bimble-wrk: no harm done. |
| 08:00:35 | jrandom | hi |
| 08:02:09 | jrandom | was wondering if anybody knows if any programs that are similar to (or emulate) the ti-83 calculator have been written that'll work on the ipaq (under linux)... |
| 08:14:28 | [g]dsx | jrandom: if so,k they'd be really slow... |
| 08:14:48 | [g]dsx | jrandom: because of the lack of an FPU... but past that I have no idea... |
| 08:17:42 | jrandom | [g]dsx: well..from what I've been able to tell the ipaq runs at 206 mhz and the ti-83 runs at 6mhz |
| 08:17:54 | jrandom | surely the extra 200mhz should be able to make up for it? |
| 08:18:05 | [g]dsx | jrandom: yes, but the ti-83's processor is _highly_ specialized |
| 08:18:27 | [g]dsx | jrandom: for loops and stuff, maybe, but for straight calculation, probably not |
| 08:19:13 | jrandom | well...I know there are ones for linux and windows although I havent looked at them.... |
| 08:19:31 | jrandom | http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilem/ is what I was looking at but it won't work on a pda because of the ui.. |
| 08:20:45 | [g]dsx | ::nod:: |
| 08:21:01 | [g]dsx | notes that most linux / windows boxen have FPUs |
| 08:21:57 | jrandom | ah ok..the ipaq doesn't? |
| 08:22:07 | jrandom | (does the palm?) |
| 08:22:29 | jrandom | I know there are a couple of commercial programs that work exactly like the ti83 for palm... |
| 08:22:31 | [g]dsx | no |
| 08:22:49 | jrandom | sorry not meaning to bust your chops here I'm just trying to understand :) |
| 08:22:56 | [g]dsx | oh... |
| 08:23:05 | [g]dsx | meant no to the first two questions... :o) |
| 08:23:42 | jrandom | hehe..ok :) |
| 08:24:07 | jrandom | so it would be the actual emulatoion that would be slow? |
| 08:24:12 | jrandom | or doing the calculations themselves? |
| 08:24:17 | [g]dsx | calculations... |
| 08:24:42 | [g]dsx | It's possible to run all floating-point operations with fixed-point math, but you have to know what you're doing :o) |
| 08:24:51 | [g]dsx | doesn't, to put it simply :oP |
| 08:25:03 | jrandom | hehe :) |
| 08:25:22 | [g]dsx | jrandom: I tried though :o) |
| 08:25:30 | [g]dsx | jrandom: google for "fixed point math" |
| 08:25:49 | jrandom | ok :) |
| 08:26:01 | jrandom | actually it's really late I just noticed..gotta hit the sack but I'll check it out tomorrow |
| 08:26:07 | jrandom | thanks for the help :) |
| 08:26:10 | [g]dsx | k... np... |
| 13:42:23 | mazur | I just installed familiar and Qtopia onto my ipaq H3850, But I can't figuer out how to access my ext flash memory card...Is there any package that is needed or do O have to mount it in some way ? |
| 13:43:43 | sjohnson | mazur: You have to mount it manually (mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda) or edit /etc/pcmcia/ide.opts for auto-mounting. |
| 13:46:27 | mazur | Thanks... I kind of figured but didn't understand what device it was.... i thought hda1 was the internal memory |
| 13:49:49 | mazur | sjohnson >> Sorry, It's not a flash it was a SanDisk 64MB MMC my familiar says that /dev/hda1 doesen't exist... |
| 13:51:01 | sjohnson | mazur: Ah. That device is /dev/mmcard/part1, I think. You may beed to 'ls /dev/' to find the properly directory name. |
| 13:53:57 | mazur | Sorry to trouble you again but do you know what fs that device uses ? |
| 14:02:22 | sjohnson | mazur: FAT |
| 14:02:29 | sjohnson | use -t vfat |
| 14:02:37 | mazur | thanks |
| 16:37:02 | sphx | do anyone know when ipkg will tell you the % of the ipkg processes? (which version i mean) |
| 16:45:49 | mazur | I'm trying to mount my SanDisk 64Mb mmc but I keep getting that my kernel dosen't support fat systems. Is there any other fs that a SanDisk mmc will mount under or is there any easy way of getting fat support for your kernel ? |
| 17:36:35 | sphx | is gcc avaiable as a package? |
| 20:11:41 | sjohnson | is away: cantankerous web server |
| 20:13:16 | sjohnson | is back (gone 00:01:35) |
| 20:33:35 | IRCMonkey | anyone working on krb5 libraries for familiar? |
| 20:47:24 | rellid | does anyone have intimate-boot working with .6? |
| 20:48:05 | rellid | should I expect it to work if I install the intimate-modules and use an older linuxrc.intimate script? |
| 23:20:01 | Imposter | is there a text editor in the vanilla install of Familiar, like Vi or something? |