| 02:04:59 | MasterRa | anyone tried running apache on their ppc? |
| 02:06:06 | MasterRa | closed the wrong channel.. |
| 02:07:09 | MasterRa | how dangerous is trying to put linux on an ipaq? and how hard is it to go back to windows CE ? |
| 02:07:17 | MasterRa | anyone have it running ok on a 3835? |
| 02:10:15 | Indi- | ive got in on a 3850 as of yesterday |
| 02:10:23 | Indi- | quite easy to do |
| 02:10:26 | Indi- | compaq has a |
| 02:10:34 | Indi- | 'brick division' if you stuff up |
| 02:10:45 | Indi- | and you can find a quite complete how-to on the handhelds.org pag |
| 02:10:46 | Indi- | e |
| 02:11:28 | Indi- | i was told that the 'pflash' commands it(the howto) tells you to use arent necessary but other than that the how-to is v good |
| 02:12:02 | MasterRa | ahhh.. sounds good. Will i need a keyboard for the ipaq? |
| 02:12:33 | MasterRa | i've been kinda bored lately, and i'd like to give it a try.. but i don't wanna kill my ipaq :) |
| 02:13:12 | Indi- | it comes with a little virtual on screen keyboard (as most pda's do) as well as some handwriting recongnition software that is somewhere between the CE palm pilot input and the CE transcriber (theres a 3rd that i never used that it closely resembles) |
| 02:13:28 | Indi- | its a bit clunky at first but you can retrain the letters |
| 02:13:34 | Indi- | to ur own prefered scrawl |
| 02:13:44 | Indi- | and you can SSH into the damn thing over USB ethernet |
| 02:13:49 | Indi- | and use the PC keyboard :) |
| 02:14:06 | Indi- | its cool, i recommend it, i like my ipaq with linux a lot more than with CE |
| 02:14:25 | Indi- | tho i will miss the ease of transcriber input |
| 02:15:40 | MasterRa | lol |
| 02:15:53 | MasterRa | ok, sounds good. is it easy to go back to CE? do you know? |
| 02:16:11 | Indi- | theres a how-to-get-doze-back at the end of the how-to install linux |
| 02:16:28 | Indi- | and you make backups of all the doze roms on the way to installing linux |
| 02:16:36 | MasterRa | ahh, ok. |
| 02:16:38 | Indi- | and theres roms available on the compaq developers site |
| 02:16:52 | Indi- | and worst comes to worst, you can snail mail it to compaq an get it fixed :) |
| 02:16:55 | MasterRa | ok. Thanks. |
| 02:16:59 | Indi- | np |
| 02:17:07 | MasterRa | i might give it a try next weekend. Just got my ipaq.. but bored with it already.. :) |
| 02:17:13 | Indi- | heh |
| 02:17:23 | Indi- | i got screwed by outlook last week |
| 02:17:27 | Indi- | .pst corruption |
| 02:17:30 | MasterRa | windows is pretty slow.. i'd assume that's a normal MS trait :) |
| 02:17:34 | MasterRa | ahhh |
| 02:17:36 | MasterRa | bummer man |
| 02:17:38 | Indi- | moved PC to linux and had one disconnected PDA for a week |
| 02:17:46 | MasterRa | lol |
| 02:17:46 | Indi- | didnt have much choice but to install linux on it |
| 02:18:00 | Indi- | after backing up and export all my contacts :/ |
| 02:18:05 | Indi- | Outlook is a whore |
| 02:18:08 | MasterRa | lol |
| 02:18:09 | MasterRa | sure is. |
| 02:18:30 | Indi- | i had to file -> save as -> .vcf for 89 contacts |
| 02:18:36 | Indi- | v annoying |
| 02:18:53 | Indi- | that was after i installed it and it bitched to me about bloody product activation codes |
| 02:19:02 | Indi- | cant say ill miss doze |
| 02:19:03 | Indi- | :D |
| 02:19:40 | MasterRa | lol |
| 02:19:42 | MasterRa | yeah. |
| 02:20:00 | MasterRa | if i didn't use so many things, and i had more time to learn more linux.. i'd go solid linux.. |
| 02:20:09 | Indi- | nods |
| 02:20:14 | MasterRa | just got mandrake 8.2 running incely on my ThinkPad.. |
| 02:20:15 | Indi- | i got rid of all my windows clients |
| 02:20:22 | MasterRa | nicely |
| 02:20:42 | MasterRa | can't risk my desktop machine right now.. maybe one day.. |
| 02:20:58 | Indi- | :) |
| 02:21:06 | Indi- | SuSE 8.0 makes a pretty decent desktop |
| 02:21:11 | Indi- | KDE 3 n stuff |
| 02:21:18 | Indi- | v easy to setup |
| 02:22:39 | MasterRa | sounds good. i might give it a try sometime. I've been told by many that SuSE is pretty good. |
| 02:22:54 | MasterRa | i'm kinda partial to mandrake right now though |
| 02:22:58 | MasterRa | she's never let me down :) |
| 02:23:14 | Indi- | use what you know, its easier :) |
| 02:23:22 | Indi- | i used to use debian a few years back |
| 02:23:28 | Indi- | kinda lost in SuSE for some stuff |
| 02:23:47 | MasterRa | yeah.. i hear debian is very good, as well. |
| 02:24:05 | MasterRa | i like mandrake.. it claims to be a good learning distro.. and it has been for me so far. |
| 02:24:19 | Indi- | familiar brings back debian memories when you run 'ipkg upgrade' :) |
| 02:24:27 | MasterRa | i just need more time.. more time to read and test and play.. gotta work too much.. :) |
| 02:24:28 | MasterRa | ahh |
| 02:45:25 | Indi- | dont spose anyone can tell me which /dev/* the MM/SD card reader in an ipaq 38xx shows up as so i can try and mount it ? |
| 09:57:23 | bimble-wrk | afternoon all |
| 10:40:39 | hagbard3 | how much space do i need fro gcc, gdb , emacs and x-windows and the base |
| 10:40:53 | hagbard3 | 64 MB flash enough |
| 10:45:25 | Indi- | half of that goes to RAM... |
| 10:46:11 | Indi- | sh-2.03# df -h |
| 10:46:12 | Indi- | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 10:46:12 | Indi- | /dev/mtdblock/1 31M 24M 8.2M 74% / |
| 10:46:12 | Indi- | tmpfs 31M 540k 30M 2% /mnt/ramfs |
| 10:57:35 | hagbard3 | when i use apt-get how does it understand if it should put it on ram or flash? |
| 10:58:14 | hagbard3 | Indi-: are you ircing from your ipaq? |
| 11:17:49 | sigmounte | you mean ipkg K? |
| 11:17:52 | Indi- | no |
| 11:17:58 | Indi- | i dont have a wireless card for it |
| 11:18:10 | Indi- | bit of a hassle trying to irc with it in the cradle |
| 11:28:52 | hagbard3 | ipkg K? |
| 11:29:14 | hagbard3 | i have a Netgear MA701 its cheap and fine |
| 11:29:30 | Indi- | id need a PCMCIA sleave first |
| 11:29:31 | Indi- | :) |
| 11:35:45 | hagbard3 | its CF |
| 11:36:05 | Indi- | havent got one of those either |
| 11:37:35 | hagbard3 | i want dual CF |
| 11:37:57 | Indi- | id rather dual PCMCIA with some CF adapters |
| 11:38:08 | hagbard3 | i guess its hard to boot up using a CF ram and then switch to CF wlan |
| 11:38:34 | hagbard3 | yes if its cheaper i got a CF -> PCMCIA with my ambicom CF ethernet card |
| 11:38:54 | hagbard3 | hopefully that adapter is generic |
| 11:42:53 | hagbard3 | Indi-: so does that df shows an installation with what? |
| 11:43:05 | hagbard3 | gcc , emacs ... |
| 11:55:15 | Indi- | nope |
| 11:55:23 | Indi- | its familiar + most of opie |
| 11:55:35 | Indi- | and a few other files |
| 11:56:56 | Indi- | 5mb of personal data |
| 16:08:01 | elch1 | hello everybody |
| 16:08:09 | elch1 | i've installed familiar on my ipaq |
| 16:08:24 | elch1 | but i don't have a clue which editor is on it... |
| 16:08:37 | elch1 | i tried vi, and others but it doesn't work |
| 16:08:46 | elch1 | what text-editor does familiar use??? |
| 16:29:42 | elch1 | sorry |
| 18:21:38 | merf | has anyone ever gotten LinearLogiX to do any work on their ipaq? |
| 19:13:57 | andym | i'm having problems with ipkg-make-kernel_package. make modules_install throws depmod errors and causes the script to halt. any ideas how to fix? |
| 21:04:26 | vvikram | hi |
| 21:19:32 | mchang | re all |
| 22:18:01 | raistlin | hello |
| 22:18:16 | raistlin | I'm wondering if anyone has tried to use Familiar on x86 (compatible) platforms |
| 22:18:57 | raistlin | I realize the crux of this is simply having a x86 compatible linux kernel tied into familiar |
| 22:19:13 | raistlin | I'm wondering if this is available |
| 23:28:41 | rutters | hi all |
| 23:29:03 | rutters | anyone about to help |
| 23:29:18 | rutters | please |
| 23:30:10 | rutters | sorry, is there anyone here @ the mo? |