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| 01:26.41 | france | Greetings |
| 01:27.14 | jimhill | Good evening. |
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| 01:31.50 | x3noDUCK | lo =) |
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| 06:15.03 | rihteri | hi. |
| 06:15.44 | rihteri | my loopback network connections don't seem to work(familiar 0.6.1) |
| 06:15.55 | rihteri | i have "l |
| 06:16.02 | rihteri | oopback-modules" |
| 06:17.02 | rihteri | for example i can't ping 127.0.0.1 (no reply), i can however ping the ipaq from my desktop pc |
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| 13:24.41 | Myrddin157 | hey. Anyone here had problems suspending on an IPAQ? |
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| 15:17.51 | Darkith | Hello all. Looking to try Familiar, and was wondering if there were any more-recent dual-boot images than Goetz Boch's...? |
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| 18:18.20 | Aelius | :) |
| 18:18.38 | Aelius | yeh, I know.. I shouldn't irc with the root account.. hehe |
| 18:18.59 | Aelius | hey.. anyone alive inhere? |
| 18:22.11 | dneuer | depends on your definition of "alive" |
| 18:22.34 | Aelius | alive.. like in "able to answer a compiler installation question" |
| 18:23.31 | Aelius | apparently not.. heh |
| 18:26.54 | dneuer | Aelius: can, if you give me a minute |
| 18:27.16 | Aelius | sure.. take you time |
| 18:33.38 | dneuer | sorry, what's up? |
| 18:34.08 | Aelius | allright |
| 18:34.16 | Aelius | I can't get the kernel to compile |
| 18:34.34 | dneuer | where, x86 Linux host, iPAQ, or skiffs? |
| 18:34.35 | Aelius | apprently.. the toolkit is not installed correctly. |
| 18:34.54 | Aelius | I'm using some toolkit that I downloaded from ... humm.. somewhere. |
| 18:34.59 | Aelius | handhelds.org |
| 18:35.04 | dneuer | On your desktop machine? |
| 18:35.08 | Aelius | correct |
| 18:35.16 | dneuer | remember which toolchain? |
| 18:35.23 | Aelius | argh.. humm |
| 18:35.25 | Aelius | hang on. |
| 18:35.31 | Aelius | it's the one named skiff |
| 18:35.41 | Aelius | actually it has the root named skiff |
| 18:35.57 | dneuer | http://handhelds.org/download/toolchain/arm-linux-toolchain-post-2.2.13.tar.gz? |
| 18:36.11 | Aelius | no.. |
| 18:36.13 | Aelius | the other one |
| 18:36.15 | Aelius | current |
| 18:36.39 | dneuer | I believe they're the same file, hold on |
| 18:37.22 | Aelius | yes.. I see it now.. yes they're the same |
| 18:37.48 | Aelius | allright... so what I did.. was to basically untar this ina known location |
| 18:38.27 | Aelius | and then in the top Makefile of the ARM kernel (which I got from handhelds.org again) |
| 18:38.33 | dneuer | you need to be root and cd to / |
| 18:38.40 | dneuer | then untar |
| 18:38.42 | Aelius | I changed ARCH and CROSS-COMPILE |
| 18:38.44 | Aelius | oh |
| 18:38.49 | Aelius | so it goes into / ? |
| 18:38.50 | Aelius | cool. |
| 18:38.51 | Aelius | lemme try |
| 18:38.52 | dneuer | at least that's easiest |
| 18:39.56 | Aelius | aight |
| 18:40.01 | Aelius | it's in the / now |
| 18:40.04 | dneuer | Aelius: you don't really have to put it there, but that is where the tools are on the skiffs, so most of the Makefiles & such assume that, I think |
| 18:40.12 | dneuer | just means less editing |
| 18:40.17 | Aelius | allright... |
| 18:40.40 | Aelius | I just moved it to root dir... |
| 18:40.57 | dneuer | now you need to change your path (for whatever user you'll log in as when compiling, should be a non-privileged user) so that /skiff/usr/bin/ or whatever is in your PATH |
| 18:41.38 | dneuer | hang on and I'll show you what I had in my .bash_profile for that |
| 18:42.09 | dneuer | FRESHPATH=$PATH |
| 18:42.09 | dneuer | KERNPATH=/skiff/local/bin:$PATH |
| 18:42.09 | dneuer | ARMPATH=/skiff/local/arm-linux/bin:$PATH |
| 18:42.27 | Aelius | export PATH='/skiff/usr/bin;'${PATH} |
| 18:42.29 | Aelius | probably ? |
| 18:43.12 | dneuer | then to compile, do export PATH=$KERNPATH and when you want your old path back, do export PATH=$FRESHPATH |
| 18:43.42 | Aelius | humm.. nice.. lemme try. |
| 18:45.07 | dneuer | i can't actually remember what's even in /skiff/local/arm-linux/bin |
| 18:45.35 | Aelius | what's the ARMPATH for ? |
| 18:45.48 | dneuer | that's what I can't remember |
| 18:46.26 | Aelius | :) |
| 18:46.42 | dneuer | maybe I should have put comments in my .bash_profile so I'd remember, but it was WELL over a year ago |
| 18:47.13 | Aelius | it's actually the same thing |
| 18:47.15 | dneuer | hey, jaques might know |
| 18:47.16 | Aelius | I believe. |
| 18:47.38 | dneuer | Aelius, yeah, but one is cross, and one is native ARM, or something |
| 18:47.42 | Aelius | except the ones in arm-linux/bin have the prefix "arm-linux-" |
| 18:47.42 | Aelius | ? |
| 18:47.49 | Aelius | aha. |
| 18:47.49 | dneuer | right, that's it |
| 18:47.52 | Aelius | makes sense. |
| 18:48.14 | Aelius | ok.. so KERNPATH is native |
| 18:48.16 | Aelius | should be |
| 18:48.26 | Aelius | lemme doublecheck |
| 18:48.40 | Aelius | no sorry |
| 18:48.44 | dneuer | KERNPATH is what I always used, I think, so I'd go w/ that |
| 18:48.45 | Aelius | KERNPATH is cross |
| 18:49.07 | dneuer | I'll have to figure out again, because I'm about to start compiling @ home again |
| 18:49.20 | Aelius | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.34 | dneuer | right, but why is the question; can't remember |
| 18:50.29 | Aelius | allright.. let's see.. the moment of truth.. lets see if the ARM kernel compiles |
| 18:50.29 | dneuer | I think I used to use KERNPATH, and then edit out the CROSS-COMPILE = part of the Makefile |
| 18:51.03 | Aelius | #define edit out.. like in completely empty ? |
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| 18:52.37 | dneuer | like cut everything on that line after the '=' |
| 18:52.56 | Aelius | 'aight |
| 18:53.34 | dneuer | either way probably works |
| 18:54.40 | Aelius | echo $KERNPATH doesn't say anything |
| 18:54.41 | dneuer | just don't forget to reset your path before compiling native x86 stuff |
| 18:54.47 | Aelius | right.... |
| 18:55.11 | dneuer | did you change your .bash_profile, or do export? |
| 18:55.20 | Aelius | changed the profile |
| 18:55.24 | Aelius | closed the shell |
| 18:55.28 | Aelius | opened another bash |
| 18:55.32 | Aelius | still nada |
| 18:55.49 | dneuer | then you have to source your new profile; .bash_profile only gets read when your shell is a login shell, I believe |
| 18:55.51 | Aelius | they are also exported from the profile |
| 18:55.56 | dneuer | do '. .bash_profile' |
| 18:56.20 | Aelius | great |
| 18:56.23 | Aelius | it works |
| 18:56.37 | dneuer | good; happy hacking |
| 18:56.40 | Aelius | well |
| 18:56.53 | Aelius | havne't tried the kernel compile.. hang on :) |
| 18:58.19 | Aelius | yiikes |
| 18:58.38 | Aelius | the latest kernel from CVS is messed up |
| 18:59.31 | Aelius | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.41 | dneuer | yes, I just broke it even more :-( |
| 18:59.47 | dneuer | trying to fix it |
| 18:59.53 | dneuer | well, trying to fix part of it |
| 19:00.24 | Aelius | allrightie.. then I should try one of the 2.4.18 kernels.. |
| 19:01.12 | Aelius | thanks for the help |
| 19:01.18 | dneuer | np |
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| 19:04.31 | Aelius | hey I have another quick question... |
| 19:05.39 | Aelius | patch-2.4.18-rmk3-hh20.gz is supposed to be a patch of patch-2.4.18-rmk3.gz, but I can't find that path.. or is it a direct patch of the 2.4.18 kernel ? |
| 19:08.25 | dneuer | patch-2.4.18-rmk3.gz is from the RMK's official ARM Linux site, http://www.arm.linux.org.uk |
| 19:09.04 | dneuer | You will probably have better luck running kernels from hh CVS with the correct version tag (i.e., cvs -z 3 co -r 'SOMEKNOWNGOODVERSION' linux/kernel |
| 19:09.25 | Aelius | right... |
| 19:09.43 | dneuer | K2_4_18-rmk3-hh20 will probably work |
| 19:09.46 | Aelius | what are the revision tags as ? |
| 19:09.48 | Aelius | allright |
| 19:10.04 | Aelius | will try right now... :) |
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| 19:56.54 | dono | where in anonymous cvs can i find that filesystem used to make the bootstrap.jffs2 ? |
| 20:00.27 | dono | i'm on a quest to create an "install disk"... |
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| 20:00.50 | dono | using a cf card in the PCMCIA backback |
| 20:01.50 | dono | my current mystery is why the v0.5.3 bootstrap.jffs2 (which i'm using as an initrd off the cf)... |
| 20:02.25 | dono | seems to be built using some funky library dependencies... |
| 20:03.43 | time_ | anyone know how to change the model# info on an iPAQ 3835? |
| 20:39.12 | Aelius | cramfs ? |
| 20:45.01 | dono | "cramfs" -- is that the module name? or is that the obvious-to-everyone-but-me answer to my mystery... |
| 20:58.05 | Aelius | I dunno |
| 20:58.10 | Aelius | I just said something :) |
| 20:59.15 | dono | yeah...i believe,the bootstrap image is made using cramfs -- so right now i'm gong to hafta... |
| 20:59.39 | dono | 1) compile a kernel module to support jffs2 so i can loopback mount the bootstrap image... |
| 21:00.28 | dono | or 2) find the stuff used to make the image somewhere in familiar cvs |
| 21:14.16 | Aelius | scripts directory |
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| 23:28.09 | lammer1 | Does anyone know if the mono framework for C# is functional on the familiar distro? |
| 23:40.48 | dono | Aelius: thanks for saying "scripts", but I'm too stupid to figure that one out... |
| 23:41.42 | dono | the only thing called scripts in cvs for familiar is in the busybox ipkg...is this what you are referring to? |