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| 01:02.59 | hpaq_newbie | i have a microdrive with cf extender. how do i format it to vfat [what /dev/xxx is it ?] ? |
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| 09:59.20 | hampa_ | hi.. I have installed bootldr-2.18.01.. and I want to get wlan working so I can download familiar. I have a d-link dcf-660w. Any suggestions on how to install it? |
| 09:59.37 | hpaq_newbie | is it possible to have the root filesystem on a hdd [ibm microdrive?] if so how ? |
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| 10:07.38 | hampa_ | http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpaqHardwareCompatibilityWireless - I found this for my d-link wlan card.. in what config file should I put the "card", "manfid", "bind" etc |
| 10:08.12 | dc__ | hpaq_newbie: that is possibly, probly the easiest way is to install normal familiar on your flash, then add a few lines to your init files so it mounts the microdirve then chroots to it |
| 10:13.10 | hpaq_newbie | dc__: i have normal familiar. i dont have anythingon the microdrive though.so i need to use it as a root filesystem - meaning which i would like to write a simple root filesystem on to the cf card and then boot from that one instead of the flash |
| 10:13.42 | hpaq_newbie | how can first write a fs onto the microdrive ? |
| 10:13.52 | hpaq_newbie | i mkfs.vfat'ed it |
| 10:15.01 | dc__ | well, ext2/3 is probly easier. |
| 10:15.13 | hpaq_newbie | will a dd if=/dev/mtdblock/1 of=/dev/hda1 really work ? or is this wrong ? then i do a set linuxargs root=/dev/hda1 ? |
| 10:15.16 | hpaq_newbie | ok |
| 10:15.29 | hpaq_newbie | i tried it....it said the kernel doesnt support ext2 which is _weird_ |
| 10:15.34 | hpaq_newbie | my first choice was ext2 |
| 10:15.59 | dc__ | oh right, yeah the ext2 is a module. |
| 10:16.02 | dc__ | but hmm |
| 10:16.17 | dc__ | it sould be using the fs that your flash uses if you do that :/ |
| 10:16.31 | hpaq_newbie | yes |
| 10:16.32 | dc__ | since the flash defently isn't ext2 |
| 10:16.35 | hpaq_newbie | and my flash uses jffs2 |
| 10:16.46 | hpaq_newbie | can i format jffs2 ...i dont think so - a microdrive? |
| 10:16.52 | hpaq_newbie | so what do you suggest i do ? |
| 10:17.14 | dc__ | it is possibly, but not easy. |
| 10:17.23 | hpaq_newbie | ok the problem is this |
| 10:17.26 | hpaq_newbie | i need to run a jvm |
| 10:17.28 | dc__ | hum well mount your microdrive. |
| 10:17.30 | hpaq_newbie | and i dont have space left |
| 10:17.33 | hpaq_newbie | yeah i did that |
| 10:17.37 | hpaq_newbie | the problem is i am not able to install |
| 10:17.41 | hpaq_newbie | the java1.3 ipk file |
| 10:17.45 | dc__ | and install some of the base ipkgs. |
| 10:17.47 | hpaq_newbie | because mine is 16mb flash |
| 10:18.06 | dc__ | your can download the root image as a tgz file. |
| 10:18.10 | hpaq_newbie | ok |
| 10:18.16 | dc__ | insead of jffs2 |
| 10:18.24 | hpaq_newbie | ok |
| 10:18.44 | dc__ | then uncompress that on your microdrive. and chroot /mnt/hda |
| 10:18.51 | dc__ | then install some ipkgs. |
| 10:18.58 | hpaq_newbie | one sec |
| 10:19.00 | hpaq_newbie | when do i chroot ? |
| 10:19.02 | hpaq_newbie | linuxrc ? |
| 10:19.04 | dc__ | and make it as similar to your flash system as your can. |
| 10:19.09 | dc__ | hpaq_newbie: do it manualy for now. |
| 10:19.14 | hpaq_newbie | oh ok |
| 10:19.19 | hpaq_newbie | after booting and logging in ? |
| 10:19.24 | dc__ | yeah |
| 10:19.26 | hpaq_newbie | ok |
| 10:19.29 | dc__ | you can add it to init later. |
| 10:19.32 | hpaq_newbie | ok |
| 10:19.39 | dc__ | hmm, lemme find the root filesystem tgz for you |
| 10:19.50 | hpaq_newbie | thanks a lot. i am searching familiar.handhelds.org too |
| 10:20.31 | dc__ | hmm |
| 10:20.41 | hpaq_newbie | got it |
| 10:20.51 | dc__ | ah cool |
| 10:20.57 | hpaq_newbie | its in releases/v0.5.3/install/H3600/task-bootstrap.tar.gz |
| 10:21.01 | hpaq_newbie | thats it ? |
| 10:21.04 | dc__ | well download that and extract it on your microdrive. |
| 10:21.06 | dc__ | yes |
| 10:21.11 | hpaq_newbie | ok. doing that. |
| 10:21.21 | dc__ | and you'll also need to do mkfs.ext2 /dev/hda |
| 10:21.36 | dc__ | and then tune2fs /dev/hda to make it ext3 |
| 10:21.48 | dc__ | and also make sure you have the ext3 modules install |
| 10:21.54 | dc__ | installed |
| 10:22.11 | hpaq_newbie | ok |
| 10:25.42 | hpaq_newbie | how do i use tunefs to convert to ext3? |
| 10:26.13 | hpaq_newbie | tune2fs |
| 10:26.14 | dc__ | oh tune2fs -j /dev/hda |
| 10:26.21 | dc__ | minus the oh :) |
| 10:26.31 | hpaq_newbie | :):) |
| 10:27.50 | hpaq_newbie | i dont see an ext module in my /lib/modules/kernel/fs directory ? |
| 10:28.09 | hpaq_newbie | 2.4.18-rmk3 |
| 10:28.11 | dc__ | you'll need to ipkg install them |
| 10:28.14 | hpaq_newbie | oh ok |
| 10:28.21 | dc__ | ipkg install ext2-modules-2.4.18-rmk3 |
| 10:28.21 | hpaq_newbie | surprising that vfat is there? |
| 10:28.27 | dc__ | and ext3 |
| 10:28.29 | dc__ | heh |
| 10:28.53 | dc__ | most people use vfat for viewing cf cards from camers and stuff. |
| 10:28.59 | dc__ | camera |
| 10:29.20 | hpaq_newbie | yes:) |
| 10:29.21 | hpaq_newbie | ok it worked |
| 10:29.29 | hpaq_newbie | one sec...gunzipping |
| 10:29.42 | dc__ | cool |
| 10:31.38 | hpaq_newbie | ok done. |
| 10:31.45 | hpaq_newbie | now let me boot up........ |
| 10:33.28 | hpaq_newbie | i try a chroot now ? |
| 10:33.46 | dc__ | go ahead |
| 10:34.03 | hpaq_newbie | shall i mount it someplace ? it doesnt seem to appear by default under /mnt/hda |
| 10:34.39 | hpaq_newbie | eh |
| 10:34.39 | hpaq_newbie | sorry |
| 10:34.41 | hpaq_newbie | its there |
| 10:34.52 | hpaq_newbie | my serial console sort of completely warps the display |
| 10:35.04 | hpaq_newbie | woot! |
| 10:35.20 | hpaq_newbie | thanks a million! |
| 10:35.50 | hpaq_newbie | now let me install some ipkgs as you said...... |
| 10:36.18 | dc__ | :) |
| 10:37.04 | hpaq_newbie | it says ipkg_init failed to create temporary directory ? |
| 10:37.07 | hpaq_newbie | thanks a lot really |
| 10:37.53 | hpaq_newbie | for some reason it says it cant cd to tmp or var |
| 10:37.57 | hpaq_newbie | but the other directories its fine |
| 10:38.09 | dc__ | oh |
| 10:38.16 | dc__ | you need to do |
| 10:38.27 | dc__ | wit. |
| 10:38.29 | dc__ | wait |
| 10:38.32 | dc__ | do you have /mnt/ramfs? |
| 10:38.49 | dc__ | or rather, is ramfs there when you do 'df' |
| 10:38.54 | hpaq_newbie | no |
| 10:39.09 | hpaq_newbie | i think at some pt i commented it from fstab. my bad |
| 10:39.22 | hpaq_newbie | shall i reboot with it there ? |
| 10:39.44 | dc__ | or just mount it |
| 10:40.01 | hpaq_newbie | ok |
| 10:41.06 | hpaq_newbie | it still says same thing. |
| 10:41.08 | hpaq_newbie | df in fact says |
| 10:41.15 | hpaq_newbie | cannot read table of mounted filesystems |
| 10:41.30 | hpaq_newbie | no such file or directory |
| 10:41.55 | dc__ | not cool. |
| 10:41.57 | dc__ | hum. |
| 10:42.08 | dc__ | yeah try rebooting but with ramfs not commented out |
| 10:42.31 | hpaq_newbie | yes. i did that. same thing. i actually didnt mount it, by that time i had rebooted........ its pretty fast |
| 10:42.48 | hpaq_newbie | for example: when i say route |
| 10:42.50 | dc__ | heh |
| 10:42.54 | hpaq_newbie | it says it cant find /proc/net/route |
| 10:43.00 | hpaq_newbie | because /proc isnt there |
| 10:43.13 | hpaq_newbie | er |
| 10:43.14 | hpaq_newbie | its there |
| 10:43.15 | hpaq_newbie | but.... |
| 10:43.21 | dc__ | indeed, you need to mount that to, there's a doc on this somewhere |
| 10:43.23 | hpaq_newbie | nothing it |
| 10:43.25 | hpaq_newbie | ok |
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| 10:43.40 | hpaq_newbie | but in the original fs proc is there |
| 10:43.44 | hpaq_newbie | that works fine |
| 10:43.50 | dc__ | well |
| 10:43.51 | hpaq_newbie | in this chroot'ed system proc has nothing in iot |
| 10:44.03 | dc__ | do 'df' when you're in your normal flash fs |
| 10:44.34 | dc__ | okay. |
| 10:44.35 | dc__ | I know. |
| 10:44.38 | hpaq_newbie | ok |
| 10:44.40 | dc__ | in your flash fs. |
| 10:44.44 | dc__ | before your chroot |
| 10:44.49 | hpaq_newbie | yes |
| 10:45.22 | dc__ | run 'mount -t proc proc /mnt/hda/proc |
| 10:45.23 | dc__ | I think |
| 10:45.44 | hpaq_newbie | ok done:) |
| 10:45.45 | hpaq_newbie | its there now |
| 10:46.01 | hpaq_newbie | awesome:) |
| 10:46.22 | dc__ | then also |
| 10:46.43 | dc__ | mount -t devpts devpts /mnt/hda/pts |
| 10:46.46 | dc__ | and also |
| 10:47.08 | dc__ | mount -t tmpsfs tmpsf /mnt/hda/ramfs |
| 10:47.24 | hpaq_newbie | ok:) |
| 10:47.25 | dc__ | see if that wokrs |
| 10:47.46 | hpaq_newbie | is that /mnt/hda/pts ? |
| 10:47.57 | hpaq_newbie | or dev ? |
| 10:48.03 | dc__ | hm |
| 10:48.11 | dc__ | well it seems to say that in /etc/fstab |
| 10:48.17 | dc__ | so I'm trusting that |
| 10:48.39 | hpaq_newbie | ok:) |
| 10:49.08 | hpaq_newbie | the pts mount pooint doesnt exist. thats why.....i asked |
| 10:49.22 | hampa_ | I get cardmgr[78]: module /lib/modules/2.4.18-rmk3/pcmcia/memory_cs.o not available |
| 10:49.31 | hampa_ | when I insert a new cf card |
| 10:49.33 | dc__ | try dev then |
| 10:51.08 | hpaq_newbie | yes i did but it doesnt put any files in it......which causes problems because /dev/urandom seems to be used as the random generator.... |
| 10:51.22 | hpaq_newbie | the others work fine now, proc and mnt/ramfs |
| 10:51.33 | hpaq_newbie | only thing is dev files |
| 10:54.08 | hpaq_newbie | i shouldnt use ssh probably......that uses urandom |
| 10:54.10 | hpaq_newbie | one sec |
| 10:55.14 | hpaq_newbie | its surprising because ipkg update fails in the chroot but works well in the normal flash fs |
| 10:55.38 | dc__ | hm |
| 10:56.43 | hpaq_newbie | why do you think the network is not working with the chroot fs? |
| 10:56.56 | hpaq_newbie | i am able to ifconfig and route though perfectly fine |
| 10:57.38 | dc__ | make sure your /etc/resolve.conf are correct. |
| 10:57.48 | hpaq_newbie | ok |
| 10:58.48 | hpaq_newbie | it works:) |
| 10:58.51 | hpaq_newbie | :):):) |
| 10:58.54 | hpaq_newbie | awesome |
| 10:58.57 | dc__ | great |
| 10:59.17 | hpaq_newbie | thanks a _million_ |
| 10:59.22 | dc__ | now, I need to do some more work on gpe-filemanager :) |
| 10:59.27 | hpaq_newbie | :):) |
| 10:59.27 | dc__ | hpaq_newbie: no problem. |
| 10:59.41 | hpaq_newbie | sorry for disturbance:( |
| 10:59.45 | dc__ | hpaq_newbie: have fun with your microdrive. |
| 10:59.47 | dc__ | hpaq_newbie: hehe. |
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| 13:57.35 | TheMafia | if i install familiar on my ipaq, can i sync with evolution? |
| 13:58.08 | TheMafia | i am trying ot make the switch to linux, and my ipaq is the only thing holding me back right now, i need to be able to sync it with and outlook like program |
| 14:06.36 | Kero | nice question |
| 14:07.08 | Kero | But I don't know the answer, #handheds.org might be more responsive a channel and maybe the wiki has some inof. |
| 14:07.27 | Kero | info, even. or search the mailing list archives. |
| 14:07.53 | Kero | hrm, that would be #handhelds.org |
| 14:08.55 | TheMafia | thanks |
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| 19:32.42 | jkc | Hi, i am wondering why i can't see getty in the ps -list or /var/run/*.pid (fam 0.6.1 ipaq 3870). Last line in /etc/inittab: T0:23:respawn:sbin/getty -L ttySA0 115200 vt100. Can anybody please explain me the reason ? |
| 19:34.45 | Kero | jkc: logged in via serial? |
| 19:35.04 | jkc | Kero: yes |
| 19:35.38 | Kero | getty exec()s a login |
| 19:36.34 | Kero | When "login" (child) dies, a new getty is spawned. |
| 19:39.18 | jkc | Kero: yes, thats it. Many thanks ! |
| 19:42.05 | Kero | np |
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| 21:31.39 | melee | hey guys - is there anyway to put linux on my ipaq without a serial cable? |
| 21:33.46 | gdsx | melee: yeah... dual boot... I've done it, but I have to go now, sorry :o/ |
| 21:34.09 | gdsx | melee: talk to Tangent if you get a chance, he is the dualboot master :o) |
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| 22:03.33 | jkc | Hello, im trying to install a iconcepts keyboard (ipaq 3870, fam 0.6.1, opie last feed). When i remark the getty line in etc/inittab the keyboard work fine (opie embedded console). When i alternative switch to runlevel 4 every hit of a key displays the console with two or more characters. The keyboard stop working after four or five hits. Can anybody please give me some hints ? |
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