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01:02.40andoochIs this a good place for newbie questions about Familiar & OPIE on the iPAQ?
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01:07.45Ryback_andooch: Try also #handhelds.org and #opie
01:08.09andoochThanks...
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02:31.45paulanyone around?
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09:26.20newbieibot seen AntiProxy
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10:29.16cl63amgHi.
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10:50.39sambohi guys
10:51.17samboCould someone here answer some of my questions about the MMC driver for ipaq ?
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14:29.44cl63amgbye
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15:46.41syb-awayBTW, I am trying to build a GCC-3.2 cross compilation environment on my Debian x86 box (SMP Athlon) for ARM.
15:47.42syb-awayIf anyone here has had success creating such an environment, please leave me a /msg and I'll talk to you tommorrow (when I get home from work, ~18hrs).
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19:14.20K_Fhello
19:16.21K_FI'm trying to install familiar on my iPAQ 3630, I installed the bootloader and it verified, then I restarted, and I got the penguin, and I saw serial_con when pressing the calendar button, but I couldn't write anything in the hyperterminal
19:16.46K_Fnow I only get to the spash screen saying P1.07 | 2.14
19:17.22paulcheck your hyperterminal settings.
19:17.38paulcheck the ipaq is seated correctly in the cradle.
19:18.53K_FI am checking the hyperterminal settings, should I set it to emulate some special terminal? or should it auto-detect?
19:19.03paulvt100 / ascii should do fine.
19:19.10K_Fand how come the linux penguin isnt there now, when it was there before ..
19:19.25paul115200 baud, 8N1 - /no/ hardware flow control.
19:20.26paulah..
19:20.48K_F115200 baud 8-N-1
19:21.08K_Fand no flow control ..
19:21.21K_Fbut I still dont get any reply (although I did some minutes ago)
19:21.36K_Fah, there I got the penguin back :)
19:22.01K_Fand now I can write :)
19:22.33K_Fso, then unlock the flash ..
19:26.36paulguess so
19:27.08K_Fuploading bootgpe
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19:50.45paulwhich gpe?
19:52.26K_Fbootgpe-v061-01.jffs2
19:52.31paulah
19:52.50paultell me how you find appmgr - seems to crash a lot.
19:52.58K_Foh?
19:53.21paulseems to - but its bound to the 'curly arrow' button, so its simple to resurrect.
19:53.33K_Fhmm, I dont see contact on the initial screenshots
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19:54.34K_Fwell, its probably in the complete package
19:54.38K_Fat least it ought to be
19:54.39K_F:)
19:55.10K_Fhmm 27 min left
19:55.32paulonce you've install boot you should be able to do 'ipkg install task-gpe' or some such (do a 'ipkg list | grep ^task-' for a list of the virtual "packages".
19:55.52K_F:)
19:56.31K_Fwhat about exporting between the iPAQ and the contacts in Mozilla?
19:56.36K_Fis that possible?
19:56.54K_Fand what way do you reccomend sharing files? trough FTP?
19:57.51pauli dont know. havnt played much with contacts yet.
19:58.04paulsharing files? i dont know :) webDAV maybe.
19:58.12paulbut dillo probably doesnt support it.
19:58.49K_Fdillo?
19:59.01K_FI saw that on the screenshot, what does it do?
19:59.13pauldillo - lightweight web browser.
19:59.19K_FI've used Linux on my desktop and server for some time now, but I havent seen it :)
19:59.25K_Fah :)
19:59.31K_FI only use Moz and Konqueror :)
19:59.32paulseems to be PDA specific.
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20:01.19K_Fhopefully it will be easy to get my stowaway to function properly
20:01.30*** join/#familiar prh (~paul@wacka.mjr.org)
20:01.32K_Fits supportet and it has its own package, so it shouldn't bee to hard ..
20:03.30K_Fhmm, is there some way to use avantgo?
20:03.49paulavantgo?
20:04.19K_Fyeah, http://avantgo.com . synchronize news to your PDA
20:04.25K_Ffrom a number of selected channels
20:04.59paulah
20:05.11pauli dont know - you'll have to look.
20:05.40K_F:)
20:05.53K_Fif not I'll have to start a project writing one :)
20:05.58paulindeed :)
20:07.13K_Flooking around I find something about Sitescooper
20:07.24K_Fseems like something of what I'm looking for
20:07.36paulsitescooper? justin mason?
20:08.12paulmust tell him his software is well known :)
20:08.40K_F" Sitescooper automatically retrieves the stories from several news websites, trims off extraneous HTML, and converts them into formats you can read on your Palm computing device for later reading on-the-move. It maintains a cache, and will avoid stories you've already read. It can handle 1-page sites, 1-page with diffing, 2-level and 3-level sites, and it's very easy to add a new site to its list. "
20:09.31K_Fseems like exactly what I want
20:09.41K_Fand now I can get my linux neews on the PDA too :)
20:09.47K_Fs/neews/news
20:10.52paulneat :)
20:13.44K_Fhttp://linuxtoday.com/indexpalm.php3
20:21.04K_F1 min left :)
20:24.23K_Fseem to work great :)
20:34.19K_Fhmm, got a problem getting it to work on the network though, and its not easy to read what it says
20:34.26K_Fprobably because fonts arent installed
20:52.02K_Fpaul still here?
20:52.14paulyep
20:53.22K_Ftrying to bring up an PPP connection all I get is Connect script failed
20:53.29pauldo you have USB cradle?
20:53.35K_Fserial
20:53.37paulusbnet is by far the simplest way to go.
20:54.02paulare you logged in via serial console?
20:54.09K_Fyes
20:54.17paulthats a problem :)
20:54.22K_F:)
20:54.53paulread the docs carefully re: serial networking. there's some in twiki.
20:55.17paulmy initial thought would be that ppp and serial console are mutually exclusive. (but i dont know).
20:55.50K_Fhttp://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/PPPHowto <-> I'm trying this ..
20:56.35paulas it says, you need to log out.
20:58.35K_FI have :)
21:03.37K_Fwell, I'll try again later ..
21:03.40K_Fbye
21:03.57K_Fand thank you for your help
21:07.40paulbye
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