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| 01:50.11 | gaatmx | hi! |
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| 04:50.29 | visigoth_ | anybody alive? |
| 04:51.31 | visigoth_ | anybody know any tricks? |
| 04:51.44 | visigoth_ | it _plays_, but not correctly |
| 04:51.52 | visigoth_ | seems like a sample rate issue.... |
| 04:54.03 | visigoth_ | arrhgg... |
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| 06:35.01 | KTy | Anyone here ? |
| 06:38.36 | KTy | BBrox alive ? |
| 06:43.19 | BBrox | Hmmm ? |
| 06:43.26 | KTy | yeah |
| 06:43.42 | KTy | I am looking for someone familiar with iPaq... |
| 06:43.46 | KTy | boot pb |
| 06:44.08 | BBrox | It's been AGES since I played with my iPAQ... |
| 06:44.13 | KTy | :) |
| 06:44.40 | KTy | Do you still remembersome tricks ? |
| 06:45.29 | KTy | I can reach the parot, but actually, I dont really know how to send a new ROM... |
| 06:46.18 | KTy | ipaq 3650 |
| 06:51.01 | BBrox | Well, you do not oot Linux using the parrot |
| 06:56.52 | KTy | ok, I am going to check on my own... I can also reach the USB-parot boot mode... |
| 06:57.13 | KTy | I just want to reinstall winCE, but I am a noob, so.... |
| 06:57.35 | KTy | any advice before I leave ? :) |
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| 13:06.11 | qfh | when will familiar 0.7 final be released? |
| 13:16.17 | destroyer | ....today! |
| 13:18.53 | visigoth_ | either of you have any insight into audio on a 3900? |
| 13:19.12 | visigoth_ | it _plays_ but too fast and choppy |
| 13:23.27 | qfh | 0.7 stable? |
| 13:23.38 | visigoth_ | 0.7rc2 |
| 13:25.32 | qfh | ah k |
| 13:34.11 | destroyer | sorry |
| 13:34.15 | destroyer | i know nothing |
| 13:34.18 | destroyer | in fact... |
| 13:34.41 | destroyer | i need help.. for some reason the screen calibration utility in gpe wont work anymore |
| 13:35.02 | destroyer | clicking -calibrate screen- amounts to nothing |
| 13:35.11 | destroyer | anyone had that problem? |
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| 13:47.15 | visigoth_ | nope |
| 13:47.19 | visigoth_ | I'm using opie |
| 13:47.29 | visigoth_ | sorry |
| 13:52.04 | destroyer | what's good about opie? |
| 13:52.11 | destroyer | why use it over gpe or X? |
| 13:52.21 | destroyer | if you dont mind |
| 14:03.35 | visigoth_ | hmm |
| 14:03.39 | visigoth_ | played with both. |
| 14:03.44 | visigoth_ | just kinda like it better |
| 14:03.58 | visigoth_ | feels more like the UI was designed for handheld |
| 14:04.04 | visigoth_ | not squished to fit ;) |
| 14:04.55 | visigoth_ | obviously fewer GUI toys are available, but I don't care NEARLY as much about how MANY there are as long as the ones I need work really well |
| 14:12.44 | destroyer | hmm |
| 14:12.57 | destroyer | I mainly just want to use my ipaq as a notebook |
| 14:13.20 | destroyer | for c programming and snes9x |
| 14:13.46 | qfh | any ideas why the bootloader (from 0.7) won't boot the system unless i type "boot" at the serial console? |
| 14:13.52 | destroyer | i tried both too.. opie looked better though.. it didn't seem to be able to run as much software |
| 14:14.14 | destroyer | try removing the serial cable? |
| 14:14.38 | destroyer | maybe it's detecting carrier or something and giving the serial console |
| 14:15.11 | visigoth_ | qfh, yea, the serial cable can cause issues. Also, I think there is a "default boot" option, maybe it's messed up |
| 14:15.36 | visigoth_ | I need to get my keyboard working. |
| 14:15.53 | visigoth_ | I understand about using it for coding ;) |
| 14:16.15 | destroyer | my touchscreen seems to have issues... |
| 14:16.44 | qfh | hmm, well, it doesn't boot when no serial cable is attached, and it doesn't boot if there is, too. i have to do that hold button, reset, enter "boot" at the bootloader prompt thing... |
| 14:17.10 | visigoth_ | you don't get a boot loader gui? |
| 14:17.18 | visigoth_ | with button options? |
| 14:17.19 | qfh | yes i do, but nothing beyond that |
| 14:17.22 | visigoth_ | ah |
| 14:17.25 | destroyer | time for me to move onto a some of the 7 rc's i think |
| 14:17.31 | destroyer | ahh one |
| 14:17.33 | qfh | button options yes, but cannot boot this way |
| 14:17.35 | visigoth_ | rc2 so far so good |
| 14:17.55 | visigoth_ | other than sound (on my 3900) |
| 14:17.58 | destroyer | cool.. i'll put it on , i was running 6.1 until now |
| 14:18.18 | visigoth_ | 7 has been cool for a while now (even before rc's) ;) |
| 14:18.23 | destroyer | it seemed fine.. but for some strange reason i can't calibrate the touchscreen anymore |
| 14:18.42 | destroyer | i broke familiar :) |
| 14:18.46 | visigoth_ | heh |
| 14:19.10 | destroyer | probably one of the ipkg's destroyed something required by the calibrate utility/ |
| 14:19.13 | destroyer | ? |
| 14:19.50 | visigoth_ | could be |
| 14:20.01 | visigoth_ | upgrade is always a little dangerous |
| 14:20.10 | destroyer | visigoth_: you think there's any hope of using X w/o qpe on this handheld? |
| 14:20.21 | destroyer | why is that? |
| 14:20.46 | visigoth_ | (just don't upgrad the kernel junk willy-nilly) |
| 14:20.48 | visigoth_ | hmmm |
| 14:20.53 | visigoth_ | x w/o qpe... |
| 14:20.56 | visigoth_ | dunno |
| 14:21.03 | visigoth_ | good luck ;) |
| 14:21.13 | destroyer | yeah.. i was going to experiemnt a little but.. i ahve no time at the moment ;) |
| 14:21.17 | destroyer | thx :P |
| 14:21.33 | visigoth_ | usually gui packeages are ok to upgrade and such |
| 14:21.43 | destroyer | i notice intimate uses X11 |
| 14:21.50 | visigoth_ | just sometimes they release a new kernel w/o all of the modules you may need |
| 14:22.10 | destroyer | ah |
| 14:23.00 | visigoth_ | I should set up a bootable intimate distro on one of my CFs |
| 14:24.07 | destroyer | yeah, intimate would rock |
| 14:24.20 | visigoth_ | hm. does deb. have a pxa package line? |
| 14:24.32 | destroyer | no idea |
| 14:25.00 | visigoth_ | that's a little part of the problem/coolness of the 3900 |
| 14:25.12 | visigoth_ | next gen ARM |
| 14:26.08 | visigoth_ | bin. compat. with everything but kernel ;) |
| 14:26.47 | destroyer | intel should write the necessary kernel modifictions :) |
| 14:26.57 | destroyer | additions as they may be |
| 14:27.13 | destroyer | in a perfect world ... |
| 14:27.25 | destroyer | who is responsible for that stuff anyway? |
| 14:27.29 | visigoth_ | it is mostly just a compilation issue |
| 14:27.43 | visigoth_ | kernel developers ;) |
| 14:27.55 | visigoth_ | and compiler makers |
| 14:28.27 | visigoth_ | it works well, just isn't quite _as supported_ as 3600/3800 etc |
| 14:28.36 | visigoth_ | like audio for example |
| 14:29.29 | destroyer | hmm |
| 14:29.49 | destroyer | a little off topic, but what happens when you exceed 100,000 writes to a particular sector of flash? |
| 14:30.09 | destroyer | does it lock it off, or you just loose data randomly? |
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| 14:33.05 | visigoth_ | dunno |
| 14:33.14 | visigoth_ | ;) hope I never find out... |
| 14:33.20 | destroyer | i'll probably upgrade to 3900 or 5XXX later |
| 14:33.23 | destroyer | hehe |
| 14:33.50 | destroyer | 3760 is pretty good though |
| 14:34.24 | destroyer | what kind of difference is there between the 212mhz arm and the 400mhz pxa? |
| 14:34.37 | destroyer | like just raw speed wise? |
| 14:36.33 | visigoth_ | yea, quite a bit faster |
| 14:36.41 | visigoth_ | I like mine a lot |
| 14:37.21 | visigoth_ | looks like intimate has stopped development in Oct 2002 |
| 14:37.25 | destroyer | ever had the arm playing a divx? |
| 14:37.27 | visigoth_ | or something |
| 14:37.29 | destroyer | hmm |
| 14:37.30 | visigoth_ | not yet |
| 14:37.34 | destroyer | unfortunate |
| 14:37.39 | visigoth_ | workin on sound first |
| 14:37.47 | destroyer | why did they stop? |
| 14:38.09 | visigoth_ | dunno |
| 14:38.12 | visigoth_ | just no changes |
| 14:38.15 | visigoth_ | since then |
| 14:38.24 | visigoth_ | latest support is for 3600 |
| 14:38.54 | destroyer | maybe tey all bought zaurus |
| 14:40.56 | visigoth_ | heh |
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| 14:42.23 | jblinux | Hi all |
| 14:42.54 | jblinux | Does anyone know about the mwvlan module included in the 0.7 familiar? |
| 14:43.22 | visigoth_ | nope |
| 14:43.33 | visigoth_ | I just use orinoco |
| 14:43.38 | visigoth_ | or wlan-ng |
| 14:44.05 | visigoth_ | kissmet rox0rs |
| 14:44.11 | jblinux | kissmet |
| 14:44.15 | jblinux | I heard about it |
| 14:44.25 | visigoth_ | er, kismet |
| 14:44.29 | jblinux | it can get signal strengths and stuff right? |
| 14:44.30 | visigoth_ | not to s's |
| 14:44.49 | jblinux | visigoth_: what card do you have? |
| 14:44.55 | visigoth_ | dlink CF |
| 14:47.32 | jblinux | visigoth_: do you have any experience on kismet? |
| 14:48.34 | visigoth_ | yep |
| 14:48.36 | visigoth_ | lots |
| 14:48.36 | visigoth_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:49.33 | jblinux | visigoth_: cool, could u kindly answer some questions I have? |
| 14:49.54 | jblinux | If I couldn't get mwvlan working, I'd need to try something else that will do scanning :( |
| 14:50.10 | jblinux | visigoth_: actually, just one question... |
| 14:50.12 | visigoth_ | sure. |
| 14:50.14 | visigoth_ | shoot |
| 14:51.44 | jblinux | visigoth_: thanks. can you save the results in a txt file? |
| 14:52.05 | visigoth_ | results of what? |
| 14:52.23 | jblinux | visigoth_: signal strengths from scanned APs etc... |
| 14:52.42 | visigoth_ | of course. |
| 14:52.46 | visigoth_ | many many things |
| 14:52.55 | visigoth_ | you can even save all the captured traffic in PCAP format |
| 14:53.34 | visigoth_ | you can even save GPS coords |
| 14:54.22 | jblinux | visigoth_: I see. I only need to be able to get some data and feed it in use of my program. |
| 14:55.02 | visigoth_ | it can save in XML if that's easier for you to parse |
| 14:57.38 | jblinux | visigoth_: I don't have anything XML so it might not be a good idea...thanks for the info tho |
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| 17:22.13 | ZeroNeus | wondering if familiar is operational with the h5455 model ipaq |
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