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| 08:40.31 | Daviincii | is there a development feed of Familiar? |
| 08:40.42 | *** join/#familiar Ponty (~Ponty2@pc-80-194-86-60-hy.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 08:40.49 | Ponty | hello |
| 08:40.51 | Ponty | anyone here |
| 08:41.34 | Daviincii | yes |
| 08:41.57 | Ponty | hi, can u help with opie |
| 08:42.05 | Daviincii | I can try |
| 08:43.47 | Ponty | i've installed |
| 08:44.01 | Ponty | opie |
| 08:44.08 | Ponty | at the end it says "Familiar supports many 802.11b wlan cards and 10Mbps or 100Mbps Ethernet cards. Both should "just work" when you plug them in." |
| 08:44.29 | Ponty | i have put my melco/buffalo card in, and nothing happens |
| 08:44.38 | Ponty | i dont quite know how to configure the wlan ? |
| 08:45.42 | Daviincii | reinsert the card |
| 08:45.49 | Daviincii | and run "logread" |
| 08:46.02 | Daviincii | make sure there are no problems with it |
| 08:46.07 | Ponty | where is logread |
| 08:46.20 | Daviincii | just run it in console |
| 08:46.24 | Daviincii | logread |
| 08:47.10 | Ponty | image is a null name |
| 08:47.19 | Ponty | cannot convert a null image |
| 08:47.33 | Daviincii | ignore that |
| 08:47.43 | Daviincii | look for the device |
| 08:51.43 | Ponty | it lists my wifi card! |
| 08:52.03 | Daviincii | ok |
| 08:52.06 | Daviincii | in console |
| 08:52.11 | Daviincii | ifconfig -a |
| 08:52.17 | Daviincii | and |
| 08:52.21 | Daviincii | iwconfig -a |
| 08:53.02 | Ponty | can isave all the text |
| 08:53.05 | Ponty | so i can emailit to u |
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| 08:53.29 | Daviincii | just paste it into #davincii |
| 08:54.23 | Ponty | i cant copy from the console |
| 08:55.40 | Daviincii | just select the text |
| 08:55.45 | Daviincii | U in windows? |
| 08:55.55 | Ponty | from opie |
| 08:56.03 | Ponty | i cant to copy logread output for u |
| 08:56.36 | Daviincii | how are U connectiong to the unit? |
| 08:56.48 | Daviincii | or are U doing it directly on the device |
| 08:57.08 | Ponty | directly |
| 08:57.49 | Daviincii | U should do it via serial |
| 08:58.06 | Daviincii | what is your desktop? win or linux |
| 08:58.25 | Ponty | win 2k |
| 08:58.32 | Ponty | i dont have the cradle installed anyway |
| 08:58.48 | Daviincii | damn |
| 08:58.59 | Daviincii | does the device have an IP? |
| 08:59.00 | Ponty | im guessing the issue is my SSID is hidden |
| 08:59.05 | Daviincii | in ipconfig |
| 08:59.12 | Ponty | how do i input the SSID into opie? |
| 08:59.13 | Ponty | ok |
| 08:59.25 | Daviincii | use the network app in opie to put the SSID details in |
| 09:00.17 | Ponty | what do u want to know in ifconfig? |
| 09:00.43 | Daviincii | the IP if it has one, if it does the card is working |
| 09:00.51 | Ponty | card not working |
| 09:00.55 | Ponty | the lights are off |
| 09:01.04 | Ponty | occasionally the power and link flash tho |
| 09:01.18 | Daviincii | the quickest way to solve this is with a cradle |
| 09:01.28 | Daviincii | I need the outputs |
| 09:01.41 | Daviincii | from logread and ifconfig |
| 09:01.47 | Ponty | oh it has a 192 inet address? |
| 09:01.53 | Daviincii | yes |
| 09:01.56 | Daviincii | that will be it |
| 09:02.05 | Daviincii | ping that address from the desktop |
| 09:02.10 | Ponty | is that self assigned? 192 |
| 09:02.23 | Daviincii | do U have a DHCP server |
| 09:02.36 | Daviincii | or does your access point have a dhcp server |
| 09:02.43 | Ponty | dhcp |
| 09:02.55 | Daviincii | there U go |
| 09:03.02 | Daviincii | ping the IP of the handheld |
| 09:03.07 | Ponty | doesnt work |
| 09:03.14 | Ponty | my pc has a 10.0.1 address |
| 09:03.43 | Ponty | i will go into Network now on opie |
| 09:03.59 | Ponty | oh it now has 802.11b options |
| 09:04.02 | Ponty | they werent there before |
| 09:04.18 | Ponty | the last install of wlan settings must have worked |
| 09:05.04 | Ponty | http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/ipaq/1.0/opie-networksettingsplugin-wlan_1.0.0_arm.ipk |
| 09:05.16 | Ponty | http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/ipaq/1.0/opie-sh-wavelanchooser_0.1-20020527-1_arm.ipk |
| 09:05.26 | Ponty | i think i installed those |
| 09:06.30 | Ponty | shall iconfigure (wlan0) or (wlan0ap) ? |
| 09:07.45 | Daviincii | install serial-modules and kernel-modules too |
| 09:07.51 | Daviincii | wlan0 |
| 09:08.22 | Ponty | i need wlan so i can run ntpdate -b time.handhelds.org |
| 09:08.22 | Ponty | ipkg update |
| 09:08.22 | Ponty | ipkg upgrade |
| 09:09.27 | Daviincii | how are U doing that without a LAN connection? |
| 09:10.00 | Ponty | doing what? |
| 09:10.06 | Ponty | installing stuff? |
| 09:10.09 | Ponty | over CF card |
| 09:10.58 | Daviincii | k |
| 09:11.16 | Daviincii | ipkg list wire |
| 09:11.23 | Daviincii | U will see a few apps |
| 09:14.02 | Ponty | opie-wirelessapplet |
| 09:14.14 | Ponty | task-wireless |
| 09:14.30 | Ponty | wireless-tools |
| 09:14.47 | Ponty | first one listed twice |
| 09:16.25 | Daviincii | ipkg install task-wireless |
| 09:16.32 | Daviincii | ipkg install task-wireless wireless-tools |
| 09:16.49 | Daviincii | if it is listed twice it means that one is installed |
| 09:17.31 | Ponty | 1st failed |
| 09:17.46 | Ponty | says i need to run ipkg update |
| 09:17.54 | Ponty | shall i |
| 09:18.41 | Daviincii | it means U dont have it on the cf |
| 09:19.23 | Ponty | dont have what? |
| 09:20.17 | Ponty | OH! there is a little black antenna in the toolbar of opie, for wireless stuff |
| 09:20.48 | Ponty | not working tho |
| 09:21.10 | Ponty | i ejected the wifi card, and now the power light is on |
| 09:21.13 | Ponty | weird |
| 09:21.37 | *** join/#familiar vvvcd (~vvvcd@monral129.monradsl.monornet.hu) |
| 09:21.43 | vvvcd | Hello. |
| 09:22.37 | vvvcd | Does anybody know if there is a way to install Familiar via USB connection? |
| 09:22.49 | Ponty | can i download, ipkg update, ipkg upgrade and install them from cf? |
| 09:23.29 | Ponty | http://familiar.handhelds.org/familiar/releases/v0.7.1/install/install-serial.html |
| 09:24.00 | Ponty | serial only i think |
| 09:24.10 | vvvcd | Thanks. |
| 09:26.40 | Ponty | dav ? |
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| 09:34.19 | Daviincii | back |
| 09:34.28 | Daviincii | sorry got caught up on the radio |
| 09:36.37 | Ponty | radio? |
| 09:37.44 | Daviincii | Ham Radio here |
| 09:37.51 | Ponty | oh:) |
| 09:37.52 | Daviincii | I was multitasking :) |
| 09:37.56 | Ponty | lol |
| 09:39.28 | Ponty | so where did we get to |
| 09:39.46 | Ponty | can i download, ipkg update, ipkg upgrade and install them from cf? |
| 09:43.34 | Daviincii | yes |
| 09:49.28 | Ponty | where do i get them |
| 09:52.25 | Daviincii | http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.7.1/base/armv4l |
| 09:52.30 | Daviincii | http://opie.info/~opielook/feed/ |
| 09:52.46 | Daviincii | http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/ipaq/1.0 |
| 09:52.59 | Ponty | why cant they have it in one place |
| 09:53.00 | Daviincii | they are the feeds have |
| 09:53.13 | Daviincii | becuase they are 3 different things |
| 09:53.14 | Ponty | they dont make it easy do they |
| 09:53.18 | Daviincii | yes |
| 09:53.32 | Daviincii | if it was all in one place U would get lost |
| 09:53.46 | Daviincii | Familiar linux --> http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.7.1/base/armv4l |
| 09:53.54 | Daviincii | Opie --> http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/ipaq/1.0 |
| 09:54.01 | Daviincii | one is the OS |
| 09:54.12 | Daviincii | two is the GUI for the OS |
| 09:54.20 | Ponty | ok |
| 09:54.29 | Ponty | so my probs are with the OS |
| 09:54.35 | Daviincii | yes |
| 09:54.55 | Daviincii | the GUI doesnt care if your network works |
| 09:54.57 | Daviincii | the OS does |
| 09:55.15 | Daviincii | the GUI is just a pretty way to show U it doesnt work :) |
| 09:55.18 | Ponty | your feed link didnt work |
| 09:55.48 | Daviincii | thats pretty funny, its the dedicated feeds |
| 09:56.56 | Ponty | u missed .php is all |
| 09:57.08 | Ponty | what is a feed then? |
| 09:57.39 | Daviincii | ? |
| 09:57.47 | Daviincii | .php???? |
| 09:57.57 | Daviincii | what the heck are U on about? |
| 09:57.58 | Ponty | http://opie.info/~opie/feed.php |
| 09:58.05 | Daviincii | lol |
| 09:58.07 | Daviincii | no |
| 09:58.34 | Daviincii | if U want to add it as a feed mine is correct |
| 09:59.16 | Ponty | i dont understand what a feed is |
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| 10:00.12 | Ponty | Dav, under network, my wlan0 says its 0.0.0.0 thats dhcp |
| 10:00.26 | Ponty | oddly, the powerlight is now on, on the wlan card |
| 10:01.02 | Daviincii | ok set a ip to it |
| 10:01.21 | Ponty | tried that, didnt work |
| 10:04.27 | Daviincii | I would say the issue is the wep keys |
| 10:04.43 | Ponty | how do i direct output to a file in unix? |
| 10:05.25 | Ponty | logread | blah.txt ? |
| 10:09.58 | Ponty | dav |
| 10:10.15 | Ponty | ham head, wake up |
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| 13:56.36 | davipt | hello |
| 13:57.02 | davipt | cs: socket c0011000 timed out during reset. Try increasing setup_delay. |
| 13:57.46 | davipt | I'm trying to make compaq gsm/gprs sleeve work with familiar+opie and ipaq 3870, any clues ? |
| 14:03.11 | DrUDgE | can someone tell me what this means: http://www.handhelds.org/projects/h1940.html |
| 14:03.19 | DrUDgE | is it possible? |
| 14:06.35 | CAMCAM | davipt: There're problems with familiar+iPaq 3800/3900 and pcmcia jacquets (and also with suspend mode). So, for gsm/gprs sleeve... i think that it could be worst |
| 14:07.09 | davipt | I'm still using 2.4.18 and it dual sleeve + aironet 350 worked before |
| 14:07.20 | davipt | now i'm back to a 340 that never worked |
| 14:07.22 | davipt | :( |
| 14:07.33 | davipt | I can't use 2.4.19 as it is always freezing |
| 14:18.46 | davipt | but which driver should I (try) use with him ? |
| 14:18.50 | davipt | s/him/it/ |
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