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| 03:32.21 | wezlo | I was wondering if anyone here could help me with my ipaq's default gateway... |
| 03:33.56 | wezlo | I'm running the usbf interface static/ my route is set to 192.168.0.200 in /etc/network/interfaces; but "route" returns another address |
| 03:40.04 | wezlo | good point |
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| 05:58.22 | smamsdfii | Anyone around? |
| 06:31.53 | Debolaz | I am. |
| 06:35.27 | smamsdfii | You know if there's a bootstrap for the new version of opie? |
| 06:36.29 | Debolaz | If you find out, tell me, heh. |
| 06:36.39 | Debolaz | I've been trying to update through ipkg, made my ipaq a brick 2 times. |
| 06:36.44 | smamsdfii | Hehe |
| 06:36.48 | Debolaz | (Well, semi brick, bootldr still worked) |
| 06:36.48 | smamsdfii | I just tried once ;-) |
| 06:36.54 | smamsdfii | Re-loading it now |
| 06:36.55 | smamsdfii | Hehehe |
| 06:37.10 | Debolaz | I'm contemplating reflashing it with PocketPC. |
| 06:37.16 | smamsdfii | Why!? |
| 06:37.27 | Debolaz | Well, I've got an iPAQ H5550. |
| 06:37.37 | smamsdfii | I got a 3835 |
| 06:37.42 | Debolaz | Neither familiar or opie supports suspend/resume correctly. |
| 06:37.49 | smamsdfii | Hrm. |
| 06:37.51 | Debolaz | So the thing will drain battery like a mofo when outside the cradle. |
| 06:38.02 | Debolaz | (That is, doesn't support it correctly on my model) |
| 06:38.06 | smamsdfii | The 3800's have battery problems too. |
| 06:39.09 | smart | I still like opie though. |
| 06:39.16 | Debolaz | Yeah, I like opie. |
| 06:39.17 | smart | Just can't get gaim to work :-/ |
| 06:39.25 | Debolaz | Only one major design flaw in it, but it's pretty slick. |
| 06:39.30 | smart | Yep. |
| 06:39.49 | Debolaz | (Flaw: They should've made the today application a tab instead of an application) |
| 06:40.03 | smart | Exactyl!! |
| 06:40.08 | smart | Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that |
| 06:40.09 | smart | Hahaha |
| 06:40.15 | smart | It's annoying |
| 06:40.20 | Debolaz | ;) |
| 06:40.45 | Debolaz | Yeah, but what can you do, they would've probably looked into it if they didn't have a gazillion real bugs to resolve. |
| 06:40.57 | smart | True. |
| 06:41.16 | smart | But dangit, I want it in a future release! |
| 06:41.21 | smart | ...if I can even upgrade... |
| 06:42.10 | Debolaz | I'm gonna put debian in a vmware box on my machine when I get home today so I can try hacking a bit on the source myself. |
| 06:42.37 | smart | Hehe |
| 06:42.53 | Debolaz | Also, something I don't like is the use of flash memory as storage. Okey, modern flash memory lasts at least 100k erases, but still, I'd much rather use RAM for this and just keep backups on my desktop. |
| 06:43.03 | Debolaz | (Storage of user data that is) |
| 06:43.25 | smart | Yea |
| 06:43.34 | smart | I've always been a little wary of flash writing |
| 06:43.45 | Debolaz | I've got 128MB ram on my iPAQ, it's barely even touched at all. |
| 06:43.51 | smart | Hehe |
| 06:44.53 | smart | I rooted my ipaq the other day with a BX exploit |
| 06:45.07 | smart | It was kinda funny. |
| 06:45.16 | Debolaz | Hehe, it's running linux, not OpenBSD, not exactly a challenge is it? ;) |
| 06:45.26 | smart | Hahaha |
| 06:45.58 | Debolaz | I'm somewhat experienced with Linux, but I prefer *BSD |
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| 06:46.01 | smart | Ah |
| 06:46.15 | Debolaz | And I actually prefer Windows (2000) on my desktop. |
| 06:46.25 | smart | I have a debian and 2k desktop. |
| 06:46.48 | Debolaz | @ work I have a Windows XP (not really by own choice) and a FreeBSD desktop. |
| 06:46.55 | smart | Nice. |
| 06:46.58 | smart | Where you work? |
| 06:47.19 | Debolaz | At a university college. |
| 06:47.32 | smart | Nice. |
| 06:47.36 | Debolaz | I fix stuff when they break. :) |
| 06:49.22 | Debolaz | Another thing I don't like with familiar is that ipkg is broken for some people (Me included) |
| 06:49.49 | smart | Haha |
| 06:49.50 | smart | How so? |
| 06:50.53 | Debolaz | Segmentation violation when trying to write to the status file at the end of an installation. |
| 06:51.20 | smart | I get that with gconv |
| 06:51.45 | Debolaz | Seems to be a fairly common thing on Linux. ;) |
| 06:52.12 | smart | Haha |
| 06:52.14 | smart | :-p |
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| 07:16.53 | shob | hi... i'm trying to install familiar on my h3765 via usb cable, i don't have regular serial cables... i'm having problems with the terminal/console (hypterterm) |
| 07:17.41 | Debolaz | I don't think hyperterminal supports USB. |
| 07:17.46 | shob | it does not "connect" to the pda... i start the device.. and win xp reports that the usb device is unsupported... |
| 07:18.02 | shob | i think it is able to run a serial port over usb? |
| 07:18.23 | shob | but then again... if it's my bad.. and u're right... how do i install? |
| 07:19.19 | shob | any ideas? |
| 07:19.29 | shob | maybe something about the |
| 07:19.44 | shob | "usb console" option that shows up on the bootloader? |
| 07:20.56 | Debolaz | I don't have an answer, as I've never tried using a terminal program over USB. |
| 07:21.04 | Debolaz | But I've never seen any option in hyperterm to do so. |
| 07:21.42 | shob | hmm... okk |
| 07:23.17 | shob | well... i've confirmed that hyperterm can operate a terminal over usb... the os makes that possible... |
| 07:23.39 | shob | only mine doesn't show a "com2" where it should... but it shows the com3 which is the 2nd usb port |
| 07:27.24 | shob | ok... i give up on winxp... time to try the same from linux... |
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| 07:59.51 | smart | What flavor? |
| 08:01.09 | brimston3 | cherry |
| 08:01.18 | smart | Heh. |
| 08:02.01 | smart | I still can't get gaim to work. |
| 08:02.07 | smart | Anyone suggest other clients? |
| 08:02.15 | brimston3 | bitlbee |
| 08:02.34 | smart | What is it? |
| 08:02.52 | brimston3 | an irc wrapper to Oscar and YIM and others |
| 08:03.41 | smart | Hmmm. |
| 08:03.55 | smart | What feed is it in? |
| 08:04.12 | brimston3 | feed ? |
| 08:04.18 | smart | Where can I get it? |
| 08:04.32 | brimston3 | google it |
| 08:04.56 | brimston3 | does familiar have a package managment system ? |
| 08:04.59 | smart | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:05.02 | brimston3 | like apt-get on debian ? |
| 08:05.20 | brimston3 | i think all *nix's are going to that... |
| 08:06.17 | smart | yEP |
| 08:06.18 | smart | Ipkg |
| 08:06.46 | brimston3 | that's cool... |
| 08:07.15 | smart | Don't see one for bitlbee |
| 08:09.34 | brimston3 | oh well, i'm sorry |
| 08:09.39 | brimston3 | can't you just build one for it? |
| 08:09.51 | brimston3 | or does familiar come with gcc ? |
| 08:11.15 | Debolaz | brimston3: Yeah, there's ipkg, but it's slightly... unreliable in the latest version of familiar. It's fixable though. :) |
| 08:12.11 | brimston3 | ok, i lost my bid on an ebay 3800, so i'll be out of the familiar loop for a bit... |
| 08:13.40 | Debolaz | An ebay 3800.. :) |
| 08:13.55 | Debolaz | Has a nice ring to it. |
| 08:15.17 | smart | Heh |
| 08:15.21 | smart | I like mine |
| 08:15.32 | smart | Except the dang gaim problem. |
| 08:15.35 | brimston3 | what you got smart ? |
| 08:15.42 | smart | Except the dang gaim problem. |
| 08:15.46 | smart | 3835 |
| 08:15.56 | brimston3 | yeah, i hope to get one of those |
| 08:16.08 | brimston3 | and a dual pcmcia pack |
| 08:16.10 | smart | :-) |
| 08:16.40 | brimston3 | my goal is to make it a portable wifi AP for my laptop, as well as a cool pda... |
| 08:16.49 | smart | Hmmm... |
| 08:17.01 | Debolaz | My goal is to make this thing usefull. |
| 08:17.04 | smart | Good luck. |
| 08:17.06 | Debolaz | I'm not optimistic right now. |
| 08:17.07 | Debolaz | ;) |
| 08:17.11 | smart | Haha |
| 08:17.19 | brimston3 | is there not software to make it a router ? |
| 08:17.36 | smart | Not that I know of... |
| 08:17.46 | brimston3 | drat |
| 08:17.47 | brimston3 | oh well |
| 08:18.09 | brimston3 | is there a way i can browse the ipkg collection online ? |
| 08:18.24 | brimston3 | something like http://freebsd.org/ports/ ? |
| 08:18.50 | smart | http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.7.2/base/armv4l/ |
| 08:19.28 | brimston3 | ok, thanks |
| 08:19.41 | smart | Yep. |
| 08:19.50 | brimston3 | well, it's yet time to sleep again, talk to you later |
| 08:20.49 | smart | See ya. |
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| 10:10.04 | quaqo | HI! |
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| 10:52.59 | helle | hi, is someone here, who can help me with a linux installation on my ipaq? |
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| 12:54.17 | lumpy | hi |
| 12:57.35 | lumpy | i need a little help to install familiar on my pocket pc (H3630) i'm french and my english is a little bad, sorry |
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| 14:21.42 | xilebo | hi, I want to set contrast on my H3850 Ipaq PDA with familiar 0.7, but when I use "contrast" command ( /usr/bin) It puts "input output error" message. Anyone know why I have this problem ? |
| 14:24.53 | xilebo | anyone's here ? |
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| 17:18.00 | quaqo | Hallo... |
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| 22:18.35 | quaqo | Bye! |
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| 23:42.44 | veleno | anyone can help me reducing the size of the j2re1.3.1 arm-edition lower than 15mb ? |
| 23:43.13 | brimston3 | 15mb!? wtf! |
| 23:44.04 | veleno | brimston3: i'm sure i can, but i thinki have to remove some stuff from rt.jar |
| 23:44.48 | veleno | brimston3: or...if u can provide a ipkg packet smaller than that...it's welcome |
| 23:45.30 | brimston3 | hmm... ok... i'm just surprised.. that's all |