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08:00.53quaqoHi
08:07.03NafaiHi
08:07.08NafaiHow much space does familiar require?
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10:53.55Zeptanybody can help me here
10:54.14Zepti was flashing my boot loader and there is one warning that made me uneasy
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14:58.55ScHLeNdRiAnhi
14:59.27ScHLeNdRiAncan i run familiar on an ipaq 5550?
14:59.37ScHLeNdRiAnor is this pda not yet supported?
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15:07.13alessandhi, how can I add a link to a program (i.e. in PIM) with an icon?
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15:27.40alessandHi, how can I add a link to a program? Like the ones in PIM, Games, Utility areas.
15:39.06quaqoRestarting Xchat... I compiled the new version ;)
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17:30.16max_hello
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19:43.04wowhello
19:43.17wowi have install familiar and the latest opie
19:43.30wowi have a jacket with battery
19:43.43wowbut the system doesn't see the battery
19:43.48wowany idea ?
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19:48.53JasonMGreetings
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21:39.23quaqoBye
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23:07.05psyopsi've got a question regarding flashing an iPAQ3975...any help?
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23:16.58linustorvaldshey
23:17.18linustorvaldsI have familiar on my ipaq h3800
23:17.25linustorvaldshow do i get it off?
23:21.32linustorvalds13FTP Online1304  68.60.214.199:210413 l/p:04leech/leech 13 Max users:«042 users13» Bandwidth:«04n/a13» MOTD:«04There is a 1:3 ratio! that means you should upload to get downloads!13» 04—14I04-15n04-15v04-00i04-00s04-15i04-15o04-14n04—
23:21.32linustorvalds04 Request 13 13«04Wee Need Staff! MSG an OP if you can help in any way!13» 04—14I04-15n04-15v04-00i04-00s04-15i04-15o04-14n04—
23:24.36JasonMYou're never Linux Torvalds.
23:24.51JasonMAnd what's with the apparent warez server?
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23:29.40linustorvaldssorry
23:29.51linustorvaldsum can u help me?
23:30.03JasonMWho are you?
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23:30.21linustorvaldsaaron
23:30.25linustorvaldsnot linus torvald
23:30.34linustorvaldsso can u help me with my broblem
23:30.35velusipThis is IRC, no introductions necessary. The name is in the name.
23:30.52linustorvaldscan u ppl help me?
23:30.59JasonMWhat, precisely, are you sorry for?
23:30.59JasonMSo - why the nick?
23:31.03velusipRather, just ask your question.
23:31.09linustorvaldscause i felt like it, sorry
23:31.22JasonMAnd why the FTP adverts?
23:31.29linustorvaldsquestion, how to i take off familiar and revery back to the pocket pc OS?
23:31.33linustorvalds04 Request 13 13«04Wee Need Staff! MSG an OP if you can help in any way!13» 04—14I04-15n04-15v04-00i04-00s04-15i04-15o04-14n04—
23:31.57JasonMWho's 'Wee', and what staff do you require?
23:32.07linustorvaldsnothing, that from my channel
23:32.16linustorvaldsi forgot to turn it off when I cam in here
23:32.39JasonMRight - did you take a backup of Win CE before you installed familiar?
23:32.40velusipInvision, I know some of you ppl.
23:32.48linustorvaldsyes I did
23:33.01JasonMWhat model of iPaq do you have?
23:33.04linustorvalds3800
23:33.30JasonMIt should then be a case of restoring the backup you have of Win CE.
23:33.39linustorvaldshow do i do that
23:34.08JasonMGimme a sec - I've never done it myself...
23:34.13linustorvaldsk
23:34.25velusipyou have an iPAQ?
23:34.33JasonMFollow these instructions: http://www.handhelds.org/projects/wincerestoration.html
23:34.44velusipI can explain. There is a reset button under every iPAQ. IT is usually hidden behind a small sliding door.
23:34.44linustorvaldsthanks
23:34.49velusipUs a pen tip to get access.
23:35.09velusipoh, linkage... k
23:35.24linustorvaldsyeah i know the reset button well
23:38.36linustorvaldshey velusip, i have opie on here and i dont understand the directions
23:38.41linustorvaldscan u walk me through it?
23:39.20velusipI've never used opie, sorry.
23:39.26linustorvaldsFUUUUCK
23:39.53JasonMOpie has nothing to do with restoration.
23:39.57linustorvaldsok
23:40.04linustorvaldsso how do i restore it?
23:41.35JasonMYou just need to know how to use bootblaster.
23:41.35JasonMSo - do you have a wince_image.gz ?
23:41.35JasonMAre you still there?
23:41.43linustorvaldsyes
23:41.52linustorvaldsI have a wince_image.gz
23:41.55JasonMGreat.
23:42.05JasonMDo you have a serial cradle?
23:42.09linustorvaldsya
23:42.21JasonMConnect it up, reboot your iPaq.
23:42.39JasonMPress the button for serial console.
23:42.54JasonM(and fire up your serial terminal software)
23:43.03linustorvaldsk
23:43.10velusipI still need to build a serial cradle...
23:43.20linustorvaldslol
23:43.23velusipWell, just find the pinouts.
23:43.34JasonMDo you know what the terminal settings are supposed to be?
23:44.05linustorvaldsyes
23:44.08linustorvaldsim on it
23:44.14linustorvaldsat the boot> screen
23:44.19JasonMGreat
23:44.26JasonMType: load root
23:44.34JasonM(without the 'type:' bit)
23:44.39linustorvaldsright
23:44.43linustorvaldswaiting for ymodem
23:44.57JasonMThen, use your serial terminal to send the wince_image.gz
23:45.18JasonMIt'll take a while...
23:45.47linustorvalds27 mins
23:46.14linustorvaldswhy dont u finish the directions, so if u goot a leave before then ill know hwat do do?
23:46.28JasonMActually - that's *almost* it :)
23:46.36JasonMOnce finished, type "boot wince"
23:46.39linustorvaldsk
23:47.05linustorvaldsthen is it all done
23:47.10JasonMShould be.
23:47.11linustorvaldsdude I owe u one!
23:47.25linustorvaldsif u ever need any software movies or games
23:47.30linustorvaldsu know who to ask
23:49.17linustorvaldsim gonna go get some math h/w done
23:49.18linustorvaldsbbl
23:49.21linustorvaldsthanks man!
23:49.24JasonMJust one small point: The bootloader is still the Linux bootloader. It will happily boot Windows CE and you shouldn't notice any real difference.
23:49.33linustorvaldsok
23:49.37linustorvaldscool thanks...
23:49.41JasonMBut you can, for sake of completeness, restore the original WinCE bootloader - if you took a backup with BootBlaster.
23:50.02linustorvaldsdamn i didnt
23:50.08linustorvaldsat least, i dont think i did
23:50.12JasonMAs I said - it shouldn't be an issue.
23:50.15linustorvaldsk
23:50.22JasonMThe Linux bootloader is actually better than the original :)
23:50.25linustorvaldsim sending this to compaq soon
23:50.33linustorvaldscause the screen is really dark
23:50.35JasonMMalfunctioning?
23:50.39JasonMAh
23:50.44linustorvaldsthe brighness setting doesnt werk
23:51.01linustorvaldsbut i ordered a h5455 yesterday, so ill be happy
23:51.08linustorvaldsFINGER PRINT SCANNER BIATCH
23:51.19JasonM:(
23:51.24linustorvaldswhat kind of pda do u have?
23:52.21JasonMSharp Zaurus SL5500, Compaq iPaq h3630, Psion Series 5
23:52.21JasonMAll of which run Linux :)
23:52.21JasonMWell.. the iPaq doesn't exactly 'run' it at the moment. I need to fix one of its RAM banks...
23:52.42JasonMMy old laptop has a finger print scanner.
23:52.54linustorvaldscool
23:53.04linustorvaldswhich of the three is ur fav?
23:53.06JasonMMy new one has a smart card reader.
23:53.10JasonMI wonder what my next one will have...
23:53.19JasonMZaurus.
23:53.29linustorvaldsreally, did that come with linux
23:53.35JasonMYeah.
23:53.43linustorvaldswhat distro
23:53.58JasonMAll of the SL series come with Linux pre-installed.
23:54.04JasonMSharp's own.
23:54.09linustorvaldsis it nice
23:54.18JasonMBut you can install OpenZaurus on it.
23:54.21linustorvaldscool
23:54.26linustorvaldswhy not familiar
23:54.30JasonMIt's great.
23:54.37JasonMRequires custom hardware support not in Familiar.
23:54.43linustorvaldso
23:54.57linustorvaldsI cant wait for the 5455, its got wifi
23:55.04linustorvaldsso im gonna be cruisin the net
23:55.22JasonMYeah - I added a WiFi CF to my Z.
23:55.34linustorvaldsi like it built in
23:55.53JasonMTried adding BT CF to my Z, but the chipset wasn't supported. Want to surf the net using my phone when not in range of WiFi....
23:55.53linustorvaldsmy friends have these ass ugly clie's with cameras and they flip and rotate
23:55.58linustorvaldsbut they suck
23:56.08JasonMYeah - I know the sort.
23:56.13linustorvaldsyeah the 5455 has blue tooth
23:56.21linustorvaldsmy phone doesnt... yet
23:56.23linustorvaldslol
23:56.27JasonMMine does.
23:56.32linustorvaldswhat kind
23:56.34JasonMThe rather ugly Nokia 3650
23:56.37linustorvaldslol
23:56.40linustorvaldsyeah
23:56.54linustorvaldswhat are some good blue tooth accessories?
23:56.57JasonMStill - it has GPRS and proper bluetooth support (unlike the 7650)
23:56.59linustorvaldspocket pc compatable?
23:57.05linustorvaldsyeah
23:57.30JasonMNo idea; never played with BlueTooth on a PocketPC.
23:57.58linustorvaldsi wanna find a bluetooth keyboard
23:58.00linustorvaldsfor it
23:58.00JasonMYou could probably get a BlueTooth keyboard. Not exactly portable though...
23:58.13linustorvaldsyeah i wnana portable kind though
23:58.18JasonMThe only two I know of are the Mickeysoft one and the Logitech one - but they're PC size.
23:58.25linustorvaldsi know they make pda keyboard
23:58.33JasonMYeah?
23:58.44JasonMMy Z has a built-in keyboard.
23:58.57linustorvaldsbut its not bluetooth
23:59.03linustorvaldsim looking at some stuff
23:59.10linustorvaldsis it a fullsize keyboard?
23:59.13JasonMOh - like the Targus stowaway (folding) keyboard?
23:59.23linustorvaldsyeah
23:59.25JasonMNah - tiny keys. Full qwerty though.
23:59.29linustorvaldsyeah
23:59.32linustorvaldscheck this out
23:59.33linustorvaldshttp://www.bargainpda.com/default.asp?newsID=1788&showComments=true
23:59.41linustorvaldsthat is gonna rock!!!
23:59.46JasonMLooking...
23:59.48linustorvaldsi hope i can use it

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